Revisiting Detroit Lakes

Some long time WUWT readers may remember this famous picture of the USHCN climate station of record in Detroit Lakes, MN.

This is what I wrote on July 26th, 2007 about it in:

How Not to Measure Temperature, Part 25

This picture, taken by www.surfacestations.org volunteer Don Kostuch is the Detroit Lakes, MN USHCN climate station of record. The Stevenson Screen is sinking into the swamp and the MMTS sensor is kept at a comfortable temperature thanks to the nearby A/C units.

Detroit_lakes_USHCN.jpg

The complete set of pictures is here

From NASA’s GISS, the plot makes it pretty easy to see there was no discernible multi-decadal temperature trend until the A/C units were installed. And it’s not hard to figure out when that was.

Detroit_lakes_GISSplot.jpg

And as you know, that curious jump in the GISS record, even though it coincided with the placement of the a/c heat exchangers (I checked with the chief engineer of the radio station and he pulled the invoices to check), it turns out that wasn’t the most important issue.

Steve McIntyre of Climate Audit saw something else, mainly because other nearby stations had the nearly the same odd jump in the data. That jump turned out to be discovery of a data splicing glitch in the NASA GISS processes joining the data pre and post year 2000.

It became known as The GISS Y2K glitch. It changed the balance of GISS surface temperature reporting, bringing 1998 down as no longer the hottest year on record. Here’s a writeup on it from Steve on the data itself.

Yesterday, volunteer Mark Ewens sent me some updated pictures of the Detroit Lakes site. It appears the embarrasment of having such a terrible station siting has forced the local NWS office into making some siting improvements:

Detroit_Lakes_1NNE_Looking_NorthWest

As you can see, the MMTS has been moved away from the a/c units and the building. The Stevenson Screen appears to be gone. Interesting story about the Stevenson Screen, it was originally moved out of that center location where the MMTS has been now, because there was concern that somebody might break the mercury thermometers inside, and the mercury would prompt a “wetlands hazmat response”, which would be any EPA field agent’s dream, a double whammy.

Here are more pictures:

Detroit_Lakes_1NNE_Looking_East

Detroit_Lakes_1NNE_Looking_East_Northeast

Detroit_Lakes_1NNE_Looking_West

Mark writes:

About a year ago I indicated that the MMTS at the Detroit Lakes 1NNE Coop site was moved. See attached
the pictures I took last week while on a trip. Obviously not optimal, but much better. Like almost all radio stations
this one is located in a swamp, so I’ve got limited options to work with. The observer did note that he has noticed
a marked decrease in the average temperatures since the move – and not just due to global cooling!
The MMTS is ~80 feet from the building. The brown stalks are the left over winter kill of the saw grass that
is common in the swampy area of west central Minnesota.
Mark Ewens
Grand Forks ND

Apparently, the NWS thought enough of the criticism of the siting next to a/c heat exchangers to do something about it. And, I’ve been hearing from time to time, that stations that volunteers have visited and we have showcased in “How Not To Measure Temperature, Part X” have been quietly cleaned up.

While that is encouraging, the fact remains that it took a team of concerned citizens and some international embarrassment to get NOAA to fix quality control problems in climate monitoring stations that they should have recognized and corrected long ago.

0 0 votes
Article Rating

Discover more from Watts Up With That?

Subscribe to get the latest posts sent to your email.

79 Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Pofarmer
June 10, 2009 9:04 am

Can somebody help me out here?
I’m looking for something like global or regional Min, Max, Avg temp graphs. I found two. One for Arghyl ireland, and one for Oxford, England. What I found in both cases is that the average was coming up, but the max temps were pretty steady to slightly rising. What was throwing the avg up was that the Min temps were increasing quite a bit more than the max temps. How common is this?

June 10, 2009 1:33 pm

pwl (10:52:05) :
It should be mandatory for WEB CAMS to be pointed at the temperature devices with the video recordings being publicly available via a public web site LIVE! At least two to four cameras per site. Infrared cameras at that!

Just remove the internal IRB (Infra Red Blocking) filter of a good CCD webcam (Philips for example), and you have an instant IR webcam.

June 10, 2009 1:36 pm

What is this “blue sky” of which you speak?
Been raining almost every day down here in north GA…..

June 10, 2009 2:33 pm

“Abstract
A team of 3 polar explorers were able to perform an extreme field expedition, taking physical measurements of ice thickness and snow depth using a manual ice drill and ice gauge over a 470km transit from 81.5N130W, to 85.33N125W, during a 72 day expedition in from the 1st of March to the 11th of July 2009 The team selected pans each evening representative of the type of ice they had travelled on during the day, and measured it’s thickness and snow covering by taking multiple physical measurements, avoiding boundary conditions near ridges and leads. This methodology provides modal ice thickness results which in this case was almost exclusively First Year Ice”
11 July!
Wow!
And here these “3” Arctic explorers were pulled off the ice before the end of May.
Gee.
I wonder if they wrote this BEFORE or AFTER these 3 were pulled off the ice after finishing “all” of their “470 km” trick (er, trek) across the ice. And their “ice radar” actually was used how long? For how many holes?
As I recall, MOST evening were NOT used to bore ice cores, and ALMOST ALL of their ice cores were deliberately cut through thin, flat first year ice.