NSIDC vs. NANSEN vs. AMSR-E

Guest post by Steven Goddard

In my May 1st piece, Dr. Walt Meier at NSIDC hypothesized that differences in algorithm between NSIDC and NANSEN (NORSEX) were causing the gap between the NSIDC interpretation of normal and the NANSEN interpretation of normal, as seen below.  They use different baseline periods which introduces some difference – but the discrepancy should go the other way due to the fact that the NANSEN base period (1979-2007) includes more low ice extent years from the current decade.

So I tried an experiment to test this out, where I overlaid NANSEN on top of NSIDC for the entire winter – and found that they are nearly identical.  This would tend to discount the theory that differences in the algorithm are to blame.  It appears from this more likely that one or the other has an error in their historical database which is affecting the interpretation of “normal.”  Dr. Meier has stated that he is confident about the accuracy of the NSIDC database.

Using a third reference point, I tried another experiment comparing NSIDC (blue) vs. AMSR-E (red) and did see something interesting. Starting in late March, NSIDC (in blue) began to show more ice than AMSR-E (in red) – which uses a different satellite.

Last winter, the SSM/I satellite used by both NSIDC and NANSEN began to degrade, as reported by NSIDC and WUWT (of course.)

http://nsidc.org/images/arcticseaicenews/20090217_Figure2.png

The degradation caused the ice extent to appear lower than AMSR-E, but now the problem seems to be going the other way – with SSM/I showing more ice than AMSR-E. What does it all mean? Given that NSIDC and NANSEN seem identical this year, I don’t think this explains the discrepancy in their baseline.  It does appear that there is still an error in the SSM/I data however.

UIUC has quit posting their SSM/I images because the quality has become so bad.

February 25, 2009 – The SSMI images for many days in 2009 were bad enough that we removed them from this comparison display (see note below and the NSIDC website). There is enough interest in these side-by-side comparison images that we will try to replace them with corresponding images from the AMSR-E sensor in the coming weeks.

AMSR-E has only been around during the current decade, so they are not able to provide long term means.  However, current ice extent is highest on record for the date.

http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/extent/AMSRE_Sea_Ice_Extent.png

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Glenn
May 6, 2009 1:56 pm

NCEP Ice product looking bad for the Arctic in the last few days.
http://iabp.apl.washington.edu/maps_daily_ncepice.html
This doesn’t appear to be from data originating with the Defense satellite F-15 which has been experiencing SSMI problems.
“NCEP Ice Concentration (MODIS Ancillary Data)”
“The NCEP global Ice Concentration product is produced once daily from
the Special Sensor Microwave/Imager (SSMI)”
http://gcmd.nasa.gov/records/GCMD_SEA_ICE.html
“MODIS (or Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer) is a key instrument aboard the Terra (EOS AM) and Aqua (EOS PM) satellites”
http://modis.gsfc.nasa.gov/about/

geo
May 6, 2009 9:57 pm

Now, Anthony. . . you know what Ronald Reagan used to say: “There’s no limit to what you can accomplish if you don’t care who gets the credit”.

May 9, 2009 10:40 am

I wonder if there is any connection between this blog entry at WUWT and the recent delay in updating the graph:
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_timeseries.png
It doesn’t necessarily mean anything that the last update was May 6, so it may just be a coincidence.