Last year we had the forecast from NSIDC’s Dr. Mark Serreze of an “ice free north pole”. As we know, that didn’t even come close to being true. Summer 2008 had more arctic ice than summer 2007, and summer 2007 was not “ice free” by any measure.
In spite of the spectacular failure of Dr. Serreze’s widely quoted prediction, there were no retractions, no apologies for misleading the public, no admissions of error, and inaccurate stories like the one above are still in place. So what could possibly be worse news from NSIDC?
The very man who made that ridiculous statement of “an ice free north pole in 2008” is set to become the “incoming director” of NSIDC. Apparently alarmism pays, especially if you get press.
Does anybody live in Maryland that can attend this talk? I’d just love to see what sort of “heat” he’s talking about “cranking up”.
Goddard Visitor Center
8800 Greenbelt Road – Code 130
Greenbelt, Md 20771
301.286.3978 – Phone
301.286.1781 – Fax
I wonder what new “forecasts” will be coming in the new Goddard movie “frozen”? Gosh, that spherical screen is really important in getting the science facts across don’t you think?
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Goddard’s New ‘Science On a Sphere’ Movie Opens Nationwide This Spring
In an era when change itself seems to be the subject holding people’s attention, NASA presents a spectacular new movie that depicts the changing Earth. Called “Frozen,” this film introduces the idea of our transitioning home planet in ways that have never been seen before.
“Frozen” brings Earth to life, projecting images of our planet onto completely spherical movie screens hanging in the center of darkened theaters. Turning in space, images on the screen become a portal onto a virtual planet, complete with churning, swirling depictions of huge natural forces moving below. “Frozen” showcases the global cryosphere, those places on Earth where temperatures don’t generally rise above water’s freezing point. As one of the most directly observable climate gauges, the changing cryosphere serves as a proxy for larger themes.
“Frozen” opens around the country and in several locations around the world on March 27, 2009. For a partial list of Science On a Sphere theaters, click here.
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This isn’t a nightmare, its a comedy. These people are fast becoming late night jokes. Eventually, comedians will pick up on the discrepancy between warnings and reality. They will start telling jokes about PMS and global warming, global warming and “natural enhancement”, etc. The more science is taken out of the realm of journals and into the media, the more its underbelly (and there is and has been one since science was first practiced) will be known to Joe Schmo and laughed at.
I live in Maryland, in Annapolis, about 30 mintues from Greenbelt and am lucky enough to be self employeed, I am looking into attending this farce of a lecture and will let you know what I find. It appears to be open to the public.
Sorry a bit OT, but I eagerly want to see a graph showing the temporal evolution of man-made CO2 emission, from late 19th century up to as more recent year as possible (e.g., ~2007). This is because I am now beginning to doubt the “reality” of the astonishingly smooth, monotonous increase in Mauna Loa CO2 concentration, as someone pointed out in the Sir Monckton thread.
Could somebody help me in this? Thanks in advance.
It snowed this weekend (April 26th) across the Snowy Mountains in southern NSW and the Victorian Alps. I don’t think its unprecedented, but its certainly the earliest in a long time. The timing seems roughly in line with the first falls in the last northern winter (mid-October?)
Since I recently discovered the joys of skiing, I’ve decided this global warming thing is good news: the more the likes of Serreze talk it up, the colder it gets (has someone tried to model that based on the apparent correlations?). It might not be good for agriculture etc, but you have to play the hand you are dealt….and for me, that means more skiing!
Maybe a bit of good news coming from our British brethren. In a thread earlier today on WUWT I highlighted an editorial on solar activity in Sunday’s The Independent that partook in some “denier bashing”.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/felipe-fernandezarmesto-its-been-a-long-cold-lonely-winter-but-here-comes-the-sun-and-yes-its-all-right-1674263.html
However, printing this editorial might have been a bit of CYA (Cover Your Ass) by The Independent in preparation for this article in Monday’s Independent:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-missing-sunspots-is-this-the-big-chill-1674630.html
This is one of the most factual assessments of recent solar activity that I have seen in the main stream media to date. Cheers to Dr. David Whitehouse for writing a balanced piece on solar activity and to The Independent for printing it. Now if we could just get the Economist and BBC to start reporting the facts, we might be able to have genuine informed debate with our friends on the other side of the puddle.
Just Want Truth… (16:57:37) :
I just got up from taking a nap to see this—am I still sleeping and having a surreal nightmare??
SLAP! “wake up and go back to sleep”
It will all become a big joke soon, just go around the neighborhood and ask.
people here are starting to laugh at all of it now. (CO2 Warming)
“dhogaza (16:47:07) : Where is the error in his statement that there was a possibility of the north pole being ice free last summer?”
There’s a possibility the moon could start heading toward earth and crush the United States. There’s a possibility I could marry Halle Berry. There’s a possibility people will start wearing shoes on their hands. So what’s wrong with me saying these dhogaza? Where’s the error?
I had some correspondence with Mark Serreze some months ago. His initial claim was that the radiative forcing of CO2 had been measured. I suspect he may still believe this, even though I pointed out to him that it was not true.
My Father, life long Democrat can only shake his head at what is going on now with Gore, Pelosi, Obama, Biden, Kerry and others.
Wow, 100 ppm CO2 is going to destory the planet? Give me a break, only fools would buy into that non-sense. It’s all about taxes and more taxes.
The Government better be finding out how to grow crops in cold climate. If the sun does not wake up soon, it’s going to be very cold soon.
I will try to attend the lecture as well, am 20 minutes away.
I suggest that warmists share a common affliction – innumeracy. When the temperature data from satellites and radiosondes shows cooling, and arctic sea ice extent is growing, etc., etc., what part of Earth is cooling, not warming, do they not understand?
Time for young Barack and his science advisors to go back to elementary school, and work on their numbers. Anna 1, anna 2….
This is a very serious issue…for comedians. The ultimate argument against all this “fun stuff” of global warming is to reveal to everybody the laughable, ludicrous, ridiculous, of its real comic nature, which many deep and not less profound thinkers in this blog have described as “the king is nude” state.
crosspatch (17:14:11) :
HEADLINE :
“Expert Says Arctic Ocean Will Soon Be an Open Sea”
Recent news? No
New York Times, February 20, 1969. From article :
“In fact Dr. Budyko (Dr,. Mikhail I. Budyko) argues that an ice-free Arctic Ocean is the “normal” situation.”
In Ayn Rand’s, “Atlas Shrugged” a key component was the control of science.
So “Atlas shrugged” now comes to life.
We will see how the coddled government science establishment enjoys the new economy.
US government tax receipts down 27% in March.
Who is going to pay to perpetuate this myth?
I am in MD. I can probably attend. Let me know if you have found anyone else. If not, I will attend…
I really thought they were intelligent enough to change the tale of “global warming” into “climate change”, as a few did; but now they keep insisting on the same tale!!.
If your scientists are like those…just Wow!, amazing!…I got an idea: you send us some of those specimens (for free and CIF) and we send you back a few more funny monkeys from the amazon jungle. It´s a win win business!. We´ll positively “feedback” them with a bit of that common sense we are endowed with since birth.
Does snyone know why the JAXA NH Sea Ice extent is abot the same distance from the 1979-2007 average as NSIDC NH Sea Ice extent is from the 1979-2000 average?
http://arctic-roos.org/observations/satellite-data/sea-ice/ice-area-and-extent-in-arctic
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/daily.html
LOL!!
Is ABC affiliated with ONN? (Onion News Network).
These guys crack me up 🙂
“US government tax receipts down 27% in March.
Who is going to pay to perpetuate this myth?“…
Well if the SUPREME GORON has his way all us Bernie Madoff types will have to even give up more of our earnings to finance that boondoggle…
I think that it’s human nature to think in terms of “sinners”. Once you find a sinner, you blame everything on him/it. Now it’s CO2. It seems to be pretty easy to get a lot of people to believe this sort of thing, provided that you can make some sort of a weak case for it. The argument works best when you have lots of sins to connect the sinner with.
The worst example of this was when substantial percentages of the German population blamed the banks busted in the Great Depression, the starvation blockade after the end of WW1, the threat of societal collapse due to Communism, the hyperinflation of the 1920s, and the unemployment of the 1930s, all on the Jews.
Jack, I particularly like her piece entitled “Climate change: A guide for the perplexed “ where she states “Yes, there are still big uncertainties in some predictions, but these swing both ways. For example, the response of clouds could slow the warming or speed it up.”
Could slow or speed up warming? Sounds to me like she should first do a little reading of her own before attempting to write such a guide, perhaps become a little less perplexed herself?
I’m sorry, I guess it was Michael Le Page that actually wrote that, she just linked to it. Apparently Michael is the perplexed one. 😉
“I am still waiting for David Barber, of the Univeristy of Manitoba, to respond to my $1000 challenge. He predicted that the arctic will be ice free by the summer of 2015. I proposed a wager. I am still waiting.”
I challenged one of them to a wager about a year ago. He ducked. These folks remind me of the alleged psychics whom James Randi is always trying to debunk:
(1) They are great at predicting stuff after it’s happened.
(2) The predictions they do make are chock full of “could” “might” and other weasel words.
(3) They resist the opportunity to put their claims to an actual controlled, objective test.
(4) They get very defensive and angry when confronted by legitimate skepticism.
“In fact Dr. Budyko (Dr,. Mikhail I. Budyko) argues that an ice-free Arctic Ocean is the “normal” situation.”
It depends on the timescale. If you look on a scale of, say, a million years, glaciation is the “normal” state of things and warm interglacial conditions that we are in now are the temporary “blips”. Homo Sapiens have not yet experienced a change from interglacial to glaciation. It is going to be an interesting ride.
All Points Alert: the naif, dhogaza, is missing from institutional care at ‘The Closed Mind’. His caregiver, the firm, silent and patient Tamino worries that he can’t survive outside the soothing echo chambered feedback of that censored environment. Anyone with any knowledge of his whereabouts, please contact authorities.
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