Walt sent me this essay unsolicited, and I think it is very useful for establishing some baseline techniques. There’s more useful information on techniques here than in the entire Catlin Arctic Survey website. UPDATE, a response has been posted at the end of the article. – Anthony
Dr. Walt Meier
There have been several recent posts on sea ice thickness, particularly in regards to the Catlin expedition. I don’t have any direct connection to Catlin and in my research focus, I don’t anticipate using the Catlin data. I’m not responding to defend them or their methods. Thus, I can’t address details of their operation. However, from reading the posts and comments it seems like some basics on how sea ice thickness is estimated might be of interest.
Sea ice floats in the ocean. Because sea ice is a lower density than unfrozen water, it floats and a portion (~10-15% depending on density) rises above the water line, while most of the ice (~85-90%) is below the surface. The part of the ice cover above the water line is called the “freeboard”; the portion below is called the “draft”. The sum of the freeboard and the draft is the total ice thickness. There may or may not be snow on top of the ice which can add to the “snow+ice freeboard” and the “snow+ice thickness”.
A variety of techniques have been developed to obtain information about sea ice thickness. Most of these methods don’t actually directly measure thickness but estimate thickness from a related measurement. Here are some examples:
Upward Looking Sonar: Mounted on a submarine or on the ocean floor, these instruments measure the return of sound waves bouncing off the bottom of the sea ice. They measure the sea ice draft from underneath the ice. From this draft measurement, the thickness can be derived with knowledge of the ice and water density and the snow cover.
Altimeter: Compared to sonar, altimeter measure the opposite side of the ice. They measure the freeboard from above the ice, from which the total thickness is derived. The NASA ICESat is a laser altimeter, which actually measures the snow+ice freeboard, so knowing something about the snow cover is particularly important (http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/324868main_kwokfig2_full.jpg). Radar altimeters are also often used (including the European Cryosat-2 scheduled to be launched later this year); these penetrate through the snow and thus measure the ice freeboard. ICESat can take a lot of measurements over a large region of the Arctic, but there are limitations, which are discussed below. Altimeters can also be flown on airborne platforms.
Ground radar: This carried on or near the surface and sends out a radar pulse that echoes off the ice-water boundary. Thus it is an estimate of the total ice+snow thickness.
Drill holes: This is the simplest way to obtain ice thickness and it is the only direct measurement of ice thickness – drill a hole and stick measuring tape through it and you have the thickness (whether it is in units of meters, feet, or smoots [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot]). A variant of drill holes are the ice mass balance buoys that Steven Goddard wrote about – drill a hole and put in instrumentation to estimate thickness automatically over time.
There are errors associated with any estimate, but the errors tend to be higher the farther one is away from a direct measurement. For example, for ICESat, you need to know very precisely: (1) the altitude of the satellite above the surface, (2) the ocean surface topography [sea level isn’t constant], (3) the density of the ice and water, and (4) the density and height of the snow cover. All four of these are challenges, though by far the biggest one is #4. There just isn’t a lot of information about snow. ICESat has already provided valuable information about sea ice thickness over large regions of the Arctic and more results will be forthcoming. However, the goal is to continue to improve these estimates to make them even more useful.
This is where surface measurements, radar and drill holes are particularly valuable because they provide “ground truth” – of both ice and snow thickness. The problem with these ground measurements is that it is difficult to obtain a large number of them over a broad area. And this is particularly important for sea ice thickness, which can vary considerably over short distances. This is a limitation of the ice mass balance buoys. There are only a few within the entire Arctic and they measure thickness on a single floe. Even in the immediate vicinity, ice thickness could be quite different than that being measured by the buoy. Thus, while the buoys provide an excellent measurement of thickness at a point through the seasons, they do not provide good information on the large-scale spatial distribution of ice thickness.
Ideally, we’d send a few thousand people out to the Arctic and drill thousands of holes and get good sampling of thickness, but this is just not possible. Even putting out more than a few autonomous buoys are impractical because of the cost of the buoys and the fact that they only last a few years (the ice melts and the buoys are lost, though people are looking about buoys that can float and could potentially be recovered and recycled).
This is where the Catlin expedition can be particularly valuable. To have a group out on the ice taking direct measurements of thickness across a relatively large region (compared to most field expeditions) of the Arctic is something that has only rarely, if ever, been done before. It is unfortunate that the radar may not have worked as well as hoped, but that is the nature of field work, especially in harsh polar environments – things almost never go according to plan. The radar would essentially provide a continuous transect of thickness estimates over several hundred kilometers. However, the drill hole measurements taken regularly over the route will still likely be valuable.
It is also unfortunate that they are not likely to get as much data from multiyear ice as hoped because that is of greater scientific interest, but any ground truth estimates can help improve data from satellites like ICESat is useful. Their planned route looked like it would’ve taken them over ice of varied ages, but the older ice moved out of the area over the winter and, as Steven Goddard showed comparing their position with the ice age data on NSIDC’s web page, they started squarely in first-year ice. Generally, logistics for an expedition need to be planned several months in advance, long before anyone can know how and where precisely the ice will move. Like many scientific expeditions, it seems like they won’t get as much data as hoped, but ground data from the ice is so rare that every little bit helps.
As a final note, since it seems the measuring tape used by Catlin is of great interest, I’ll end with a bit of information on that. Basically, it is simply a measuring tape, but with a collapsible metal flange at the end of the tape. The weight pulls the tape down through the hole to the bottom of the ice. Then you pull the tape taught and the flange opens and catches on the bottom of the ice. You make your measurement, then pull hard on the tape and the flange collapses and you can pull it up through the drill hole. Since such tapes with flanges are relatively specialized, there aren’t many places to get one. One place is Kovacs Ice Drilling Equipment
http://www.kovacsicedrillingequipment.com/ice_thickness_gauge.html
NSIDC has a gauge from Kovacs and it has units of meters and feet, on opposite sides of the tape. I would guess that the Catlin tape is similar, but I don’t want to jump to conclusions.
Response to Dr. Meier by Steven Goddard.
First, I want to thank Dr. Meier for his candid explanation of how Catlin landed on first year ice, and how ice is measured. As always, he has treated our concerns seriously and that is very much appreciated.
Dr. Meier said that the ice “can vary considerably over short distances” and the Catlin web site has said “the team systematically seeks out flatter ice.” That implies to me that there is a geographical bias to the data which makes the entire data set suspect. (That might be analogous to having a temperature set where a disproportionate percentage of the thermometers were located in Urban Heat Islands.) If I were traveling across the Arctic pulling a 100Kg sledge in -40 degree weather, I would certainly seek out the flattest ice, as they have done.
The Catlin team has reported “Snow thickness, measured by the team during the first 2 weeks of March, shows an average snow depth of around 11 centimeters. Since then the average has risen to around 16cm.” Four to six inches of snow hardly sounds like a serious problem in estimating ice thickness in metres. They also said “March snow depths in this area should be 32‐34 cm on multi‐year ice.” If snow thickness is less than expected, does that imply that the satellites may be slightly underestimating the thickness of the ice?
If the multi-year ice shifted over a period of several months ahead of the expedition launch, why was the Catlin team seemingly surprised upon their arrival to find first-year ice? NSIDC knew it was first year ice in February. This reminds me of Lewis Pugh’s attempt to kayak to the North Pole, at a time when NSIDC maps showed the route blocked by 600 miles of ice.
It sounds like the new European satellite Cryostat-2 will provide the desired ice thickness data, without any geographical bias or concern about snow thickness. Speaking as a former amateur explorer, I certainly appreciate and admire the adventurous nature and grit of the Catlin team. However, I don’t see that there is a lot of scientific value to their ice measurement efforts – particularly given their stated disposition towards arriving at a seemingly pre-determined result.
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Dr. Meier, Thank you for posting on this site.
Please, if you could, define “normal” as it relates to arctic temperatures, sea ice extent, sea ice thickness and sea ice age.
Jeremy Clarkson would still have done a better job in that SUV
I would have thought that submarine sonar measurements would be a more direct method. The pulse would have two reflected components; off the seawater/ice interface, then off the ice/air interface (with snow fuzzing the second?). With a nominal velocity of 1500m/sec*, a 15kHz pulse should provide at least 200cm resolution. Not the Catlin 47 significant digits, but ….
Imagine the submarine on a drunkard’s walk under the cap, taking soundings at close discrete intervals. The results would be spectacular.
cheers,
gary
* For the sake of argument, I’m assuming the velocity of sound in ice is about the same. Density is less, raising the V, while compressibility is greater, lowering V.
Allow me to add my thanks, Dr Meier.
One question: Are such amateur 18th Century style ground surveys really necessary in this day and age? Would it not be possible to install comfortable base stations from which surveyors could sally forth with proper drilling and measuring equipment — and protection? Obviously that would be a heavy financial investment – but compared with satellite programmes and submarines…
I have to say that the people jumping to conclusions about the Catlin expedition give skeptics a bad name, and make us look as bad as the alarmists (who also jump to conclusions).
Personally, I doubt that the Catlin team will *falsify* results – I think they are just a bit inept, and in it as much for the *personal* publicity as the science. It’s not as if the biometric web site, with out-dated (& thus repeating) data, was within their control while they are out in Arctic! I’m sure they’ll wish to shoot however they hired to do that biometric web site, once they hear what they did…
Slightly off-topic, I was wondering if Dr Meier still had some links to “Cryosphere Today”? The NH Seasonal sea ice plot (top right corner of the front page), which shows quarterly seasonal NH ice, now appears to me to be two seasons out of date. It’s an interesting plot, and it would be nice to see it updated. Also, any thoughts on producing a similar SH seasonal plot?
Re: drilling. How do you know the hole you drill is plumb? Can you game the system if you drill at a slant?
Nice article, interesting information on how to measure ice.
FWIW, the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot is not active in the article since there is no space between the link text and the enclosing brackets (wordpress needs a space between chars and the link text to identify it as a link and auto insert the HTML to make it work…)
I did a copy / paste into another browser window and the link does work. I find it an amusing unit of measure 😉
Yes thanks Dr. Meier good article.
“As a final note, since it seems the measuring tape used by Catlin is of great interest, I’ll end with a bit of information on that. Basically, it is simply a measuring tape,”
Catlin site photograph.
http://www.catlinarcticsurvey.com/science
This is an image of Pen using a plastic folding ruler.
You can see the hinge pin.
This page will also allow you to download a pdf file:
“Ice Report 14.4.09
The results collected in the first month of the Catlin Arctic Survey point to an unexpected lack of thicker Multiyear Ice”
The ruler must be giving “unexpected” low readings.
Dr. Meier, I think you are wise not to I “anticipate using the Catlin data. “
Dr Meier
Thank you for your post.
It would be interesting to know firstly which ice thickness measurement surveys have previously been and are being used to tie satellite data.
Secondly to know the extent to which US and Russian satellite data such as on the site below compare as independent and overlapping surveys, if indeed they do, to provide additional supporting confidence.
http://www.aari.nw.ru/default_en.asp
We should not let our focus meandor off the real subject here. That is we already know we’ve been through a warm period and that the Arctic ice has got thinner. THIS SHOULD NOT BE A SURPRISE.
The question remains what caused the warming of 1975 to 2000?
Natural or manmade factors?
The Catlin expedition will nothing to answer that question. And very little indicates that it was CO2.
Anyway, thank you Dr Meier for the informative comment and your time.
So given the updated position of multi-year ice, this expedition shouldn’t be surprised to find a lack of it. So why are they conveying such surprise to journalists, and why are the journalists spreading the disinformation? It seems scientists such as our esteemed author should be going out of their way to correct the record.
Also, one other criticism of this expedition’s data record so far is that their precise locations are not being transmitted. I presume they are keeping such a record of their holes’ locations and depth measurements to compare later with other modalities. If not, it doesn’t seem like there is a whole lot of point to the exercise. Well, except for its propaganda value. I shouldn’t discount that, I guess.
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I would agree with the above assessment about it being wise not to anticipate using the Caitlin data, as I cannot find any data either.
I would expect to see in the pdf a comparison of Caitlin drill depth vs Satellite data, whether in graph or tabular form.
Failing that, a daily summary of drill depth data on about a week delay somewhere on site or a link to it. Anything is better than nothing.
Many thanks to Dr. Meier for taking time to explain how this whole thing is supposed to work.
“Catlin site photograph.
http://www.catlinarcticsurvey.com/science
This is an image of Pen using a plastic folding ruler.
You can see the hinge pin.”
The photograph demonstrates how the snow on top of the ice is measured. A straight edge is laid across the snow and then a measurement is taken between the top of the ice and the top of the snow.
B Kerr (02:37:29) :
B Kerr (02:37:29) :
Catlin site photograph.
This is an image of Pen using a plastic folding ruler.
You can see the hinge pin.
More disinformation here. If you are going to reference the photo why not look at it first!
To the right of the “stick” overlaying the green “thing” is a tape measure.
I think I read somewhere that they measure the distance between ice top and water top (in the hole) having left it a few moments for the water to settle.
Before pouncing like rabid wolverines on supposed error and falsifications try just taking a LLLooonnnggg look and check your facts.
On another thread a illustrative photo was disected (shadows indicating not taken near pole etc). Having now agreed the shadow was not a shadow there is even a complaint that the photo was not taken using a more scientific camera (one using a rotating colour filter in front of a sensor!!!).
Then of course there was the video of ice drilling – now admitted to have been found by pking around the hosts web site. There being no direct link to it from the Catlin site.
And whatever happened to all those comments about their breaths not being visible in the tent videos!!!!
You have added to this laywoman’s knowledge Dr Meier so thank you for that.
I was intriqued by Smoots. Perhaps we should measure the departure of warmist propoganda/theory from reality in Hansens?
It is interesting that the topic is now the thickness of ice. Since the previous topic- ‘no ice’ has failed to have the ice cooperate, the alarmist industry is now going to worry about the thickness of the ice and use ignorance about that to keep the fear alive.
Of course, as Arctic ice recovers from its cyclic low, the ice will tend to be thinner.
Catlin = fraud = AGW.
Who did the Catlin expedition consult on the parameters for the survey? They evidently didn’t ask for input from NSIDC. I think it the explorer personality to not consult anyone thank you very much.
Interesting paper:-
Recent Observations on Arctic Ocean Ice Thickness
The fact that these publicity hounds only measure the thinnest ice is telling. If they had drilled a hole exactly every mile, for instance, sometimes they would be drilling through a hundred feet of ice on a ridge.
It’s only a matter of time before they start pointing out any open water they can find. They’re probably anxiously looking for it right now and when they spot open water, they will head straight for it so they can be “rescued” from the melting ice.
bill (05:06:55) :
Yes bill but what is the yellow “thing” which is in the hole.
The “thing” with numbers on it?
Give you a hint.
http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=9285061&fh_view_size=10&fh_location=%2f%2fcatalog01%2fen_GB&fh_search=rulers&fh_eds=%C3%9F&fh_refview=search&ts=1240225066061&isSearch=true
When I looked at the other “thing” I thought it could be a tape measure. I looked at it more closely and the part that is shadow looks like a rope.
FWIW, the arctic sea ice extent appears to be at the highest area coverage for this date in the last eight years.
hunter (05:23:09) :
… Catlin = fraud = AGW.
Smokey (05:33:07) :
The fact that these publicity hounds only measure the thinnest ice is telling. If they had drilled a hole exactly every mile, for instance, sometimes they would be drilling through a hundred feet of ice on a ridge.
Are you people for real?!!!!!!!!!!!!
In what respect is Catlin expedition a fraud – remember a legal case could result from your disclosure.
Exactly what would the purpose be of measuring the pressure ridge height? In the same way I’m sure they will not report a zero ice depth because they tried drilling in a lead.
Are you suggesting Smokey that at -40C they wander around the ice tapping the ice to find the thinnest and then drill. I would suggest they do what they say they are doing – lay out a line and drill every few metres. Or are you also accusing them of fraud? in which case I’m sure the legal people would be interested.
Thank you, Dr Meier. I find reasoned contributions from people who know what they’re talking about most helpful!
What did strike me from the posting was that, given the variation in ice thickness within such a small area, is it possible that what the Catlin team are doing (and giving them all the benefit of the doubt) is essentially meaningless since there is no way of knowing what the ice thickness was last year or will be next year or is now 100 metres from where the measurement was taken?
We can agree that the Arctic ice coverage hit a low in 2007 but is this relevant to anything in the real world, especially if in palaeoclimatological terms (I hope I’ve got that right!) an ice-free Arctic is “normal”.
Whatever “normal” is.
bill,
Yes, as a matter of fact I do think the whole thing is based on fraud. They pretend it’s science — but their minds were made up before they started.
If they had used a grid, for example, and drilled into the ice at very specific intervals, they would have gotten an average ice thickness.
Show me where they have ever drilled into thick ice — which is all around them, as they’ve pointed out themselves. They have had to climb over ice ridges. But rather than drill into thick ice, they avoid it and look for thin, first year ice.
This publicity-seeking stunt is to science as astrology is to astronomy. It has nothing to do with true science, and everything to do with advocating for a predetermined agenda: that the polar ice is fast disappearing.
I expect to see them eventually being “rescued” from the melting ice. Then the book tours begin.