It appears this winter is rough not only in the USA, but elsewhere,. Significant snowfalls were also seen in 2002 and 2004. From Today’s Zaman:
Snowfall immobilizes rural communities in eastern, central Turkey
Cold weather and heavy snowfall brought daily life to a standstill in rural parts of Turkey, forcing closures of rural roads and inter-city routes in the country’s eastern and central regions.
Snowfall was responsible for the closure of a highway on Thursday connecting the Hakkari district, located within the province of the same name, to the district of Çukurca. Several vehicles became stuck in the snow. Highway crews used snow plows to move the snow from the highway and free the vehicles.
Blizzards closed down over 1,000 village roads in the country’s eastern regions, and an inter-city route between Erzurum and Bingöl provinces was reopened to traffic after hours of plowing; however, the Iğdır-Ağrı inter-city road is still closed to traffic.
Mike C; We are not going to eat the animals, we are going to accomplish three tasks at once. We will eat the AGW alarmists, thereby nourishing ourselves, ending alarmists compulsive fretfulness, and silencing ugly and annoying noises. All the best mr.artday.
{sarc on}
All of these events (Turkey Spain, PacNW, NE US, China, etc) are LOCAL phenomena. The fact that they are happening at the same time, and during a negative PDO (with just a hint of La Nina) and abnormally low solar activity is purely coincidental.
Move along, folks, nothing to see here….
(sarc off)
mr.artday,
I was preaching the gospel of Al Gore, you are preaching the gospel of Ted Turner
Pierre Gosselin (11:07:05) : Wrote:
Any sunspots today? Nope!
I can finally begin to taste it. The AGW theory is about to come crashing down. Victory shall be mine!
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Mother Nature’s victory I think Pierre. Not sure if it’s a victory for the planet, but it sure is a loss for “Flat Earth” Pachauri and his legion of freeloaders. Maybe the UN can move on to more pressing problems now, like Zimbabwe, for example.
Oh hold on – they’re already punching above their weight throwing haymakers at carbon dioxide and methane.
John Finn,
I wouldn’t read too much into the mild weather last week in the UK. The long term forecast for most of Europe and the UK is cold.
http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp4.html
Patrick Henry
Your link shows that the forecast for some places is for colder than normal weather for some places and warmer than normal weather for other places. In other words – pretty normal.
If I were to hazard a guess I’d say that, globally, the world will be slightly warmer than average over the NH winter months (DJF). I could be wrong if a strong La Nina kicks in – but not by much. To find out we can check the UAH temps at the end of February.
Obviously, we need to quit AGW the same as we quit smoking.
Cold Turkey. (sound of thrown rocks crashing down)
I have noticed that the forcasts around here seem to drop day by day. Two days out, mid to upper 30’s. One day, high 20’s. Same day, 9 above. As for precipitation, forget it. It won’t do what they say. If clear sky is predicted, you had better have a well stocked pantry.
Colorado is like that in normal years.
Mike C,
Al Gore and Ted Turner are both on the same journey. Their just taking different paths.
I meant they’re
We are making up for it here in coastal NC. about the last 2 weeks have been around 5 to 10f above normal.
Pamela Gray (07:13:19) :
Ah. Countries are beginning to quit global warming cold turkey.
Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk! Wish I’d said that.
Mike Bryant,
Al Gore says we will be swimming to Wall Street in 30 years… Ted Turner says we will be cannibals in 30 years.
John Finn (13:21:38) : By all means discuss interesting weather events, but don’t read too much into it with respect to the climate. A lot has been said about the cold start to winter in the UK, but at this moment in time the December 2008 average is within a whisker of the long term December average.
But I do not think it is meant to be, John… isn’t that the whole point of AGW alarmism? A road to hell; not a cruise along an undulating highway of history. (But I guess with three Christmases in one year it’s kinda different there, anyway…)
Ed Scott (15:13:32) : “Obama’s New Science Adviser Wants to Spread the Wealth Around a Little”
Nice points, Ed, I noted it this way on December 22:
A Classic Dichotomy ~ A Shadow of Shame
“Because the truth is that promoting science isn’t just about providing resources — it’s about protecting free and open inquiry…”
US President-elect Obama on his appointment of
“Both Mr. Holdren and Ms. Lubchenco are leading experts on climate change who have advocated forceful government response.”
John Finn,
I’m not quite sure what you are seeing in this map, but most of Europe is headed for some seriously cold weather over the next two weeks.
http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp4.html
More like Al Gore will be pushed out to sea, being confused for a beached whale; and Ted Turner will cannibalize himself.
Patrick Henry (10:00:41) :
John Finn,
I’m not quite sure what you are seeing in this map, but most of Europe is headed for some seriously cold weather over the next two weeks.
http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp4.html
Looks to me like the EU, with the exception of Spain/Portugal will be much colder than normal, whilst Scandinavia and Russia will be much warmer than normal.
Just like you guys have had west coast much colder than normal and east coast quite warm recently.
All very complicated if you want to calculate ‘mean global temperature’!
Indeed, Mike Bryant @ur momisugly 13:02:15, I use the following argument with AGW believers:
Clearly, you think the planet is too hot; how cold do you think it should be?
Rhys Jaggar (12:22:26) :
‘All very complicated if you want to calculate ‘mean global temperature’!’
That’s easy. Hansen will autoconnect all stations south of the equator to the warmest stations and all the stations north of equartor he will adjust upward because of missing data. LOL
Rhys,
The NCEP maps show two weeks. Week 2 shows essentially all of Europe colder than normal, with the possible exception of northern Scandinavia. They update that map every few hours and have been going back and forth with the Scandinavian temperatures.