Arctic sea ice continues to rebound, quick link graphic added

crosspatch
I think the problem with the Cryosphere global anomaly graph is more of scale than any suspect calculation. Last year’s anomaly at this time was about -3 million square km. This year it’s about -2.5 million. The increase doesn’t show up well in the global anomaly graph. Try squinting one eye and leaning in really close to your monitor. 🙂

mary hinge
have you ever heard of the year without a summer in the U.S.A. that was near the end of the little ice age.

paul. That one use to be replied that it was one special occasion. I guess you refer to a year in the early 19th century when there had been a volcano. That is the counter argument…
Also cold summers has been occasions during warm periods the last two thousands of years. Occasions in the “wrong” direction during warm and cold phases seems to occur.
I think the best argument is the study of all proxy data which is made. There you have a period of at least 50 years in time of warm or cold climate as a criteria for a warmer or a colder period. These studies continues on new proxy data, which continues to prove MWP and LIA.

paul (08:36:46) :
I know geography isn’t an American strong point but isn’t the North Atlantic the large stretch of water on the east side of the US?

Glaciers are growing in Alaska?
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/555283.html
“In general, the weather this summer was the worst I have seen in at least 20 years.”
Never before in the history of a research project dating back to 1946 had the Juneau Icefield witnessed the kind of snow buildup that came this year. It was similar on a lot of other glaciers too.
wonder when RC will pickup on this?

Bruce Cobb (09:02:01) :
“Try looking at the graph, Mary. See anything interesting? Anything at all? No?”
I see the freeze at below average levels for the time of year. If you are seriously thinking this is proof of your global warming belief then you are seriously scraping the r’s of the barrel.
Retired Engineer (09:18:21) :
“….. I predict the entire NH will be covered in ice. At some point.”
Going by your record this is one of your more accurate predictions! 😉

Mary Hinge (05:07:22) :
The LIA even shows up in the southern hemisphere. For example Lake Malawi waters in the 1680’s were the coldest since the ice age (about 5 degrees colder than now) and many southern hemisphere glaciers have prominent end moraines of LIA age (I’ve seen a number). Evidence from Antarctica is a bit more dodgy, but Emslies studies of abandoned penguin rookeries strongly suggest that the Ross Sea area was more hevily iced during the LIA than before and after.

Northern Canada´s too

I see the freeze at below average levels for the time of year. If you are seriously thinking this is proof of your global warming belief then you are seriously scraping the r’s of the barrel.
Look again Mary, and try taking off your AGW blinders for a change. Notice the slope of this years’ refreeze. No one is talking about it being “proof” of anything except you, but that is to be expected with those of your ilk, since you are the one with the global warming Belief.

For Mary, “The Year Without a Summer” was actually the year 1816 which is smack in the middle of The Dalton Minimum; and if you want to include that in the LIA; Dr Willie Soon would tend to agree with that, since he suggests the LIA covered perhaps 500 years. Thge Dalton Minimum was however preceeded by a fairly acitve sun era that ende the Maunder Minimum.
There is one other thing you should know about Dr Mann Mary, since you put so much faith in his assertions.
If you check back to the first publications of Mann’s famous Hockey Stick Graph, and you will find a copy of same in last Year’s Los angeles times somewhere (I did); guess what you will find in the unexpurgated version of Mann’s Hockey stick?
Two little words at the top of the Graph; “NORTHERN HEMISPHERE.”
In his own words (as an expert) Dr Mann asserted that the Hockey stick itself is just a local anomaly, and NOT a global phenomena at all.
More recent “editions” of the Hockey stick have had all offensive language like northern hemisphere removed.
And now to Neil Crafter and Katherine; since we seem too be getting pedantic.
I could have said: The Southern Hemisphere is mostly water, and the Northern hemisphere is mostly land; would you both agree to that of do you still have a problem with that ?
But, since the discussion was related to ice concerns, I used the terms Antarctic, and Arctic; as a loose reference to the colder regions of the Southern Hemisphere and the Northern Hemisphere.
Please take note, that I did NOT say “Antarctica” which we all agree is that continemtal largest land mass in “The Antarctic”.
Also note, I did not say the “Antarctic Circle” and the “Arctic Circle”, as delineating the “Arctic” and t”The Antarctic” which define the regions beyond +/- 67.5 deg N/S.
The “Arctic” and the “Antarctic” are commonly used to reference the globe beyong +/- 60 degrees N/S, not 67.5
So now go check you globe again, and you will find, that virtually all of Alaska and Greenland, and a large part of Eurasia including most of scandinavia and Siberia are “in the arctic”
There is indeed more land “In the arctic” than “in the antarctic”.
But coming from New Zealand; anything south of Stewart Island is the antarctic to me.
But not to be nit picky, it really was the northern/southern hemispheric land /water distribution I was referring to that has a big influence on the global assymmetry.
I would also argue that it is somewhat irrelevent whether the northernmost permanent ice pack sits on land or water, and same for the southernmost ice pack. Ok the altitudes are a bit different, so the antarctic gets a lot colder.
But do check the globe to see that I really am right anyway in what I said.

Mary
You seem rather pleased with yourself to come on Anthony’s website and make some of the condescending statements you have. Do you work for Michael Mann? I would suggest that those who dispute, ignore or deny the historical record for the Little Ice Age, as we have seen that comes from a number of countries, are doing so to further their climate agendas ie. that historical climate was flat (ie handle) and only in the 20th/21st centuries has evil man (one ‘n’) upset nature’s delicate balance by emitting all that plant fertiliser (making the blade). Well I’m sorry, I’m not buying today thankyou.

Don’t worry, Simon, ice melts and water refreezes. It happens over and over. When the ice reappears, it won’t be magic, just the recurring cycle.