Here's the problem with the sun

Newly discovered evidence that polar bears, CO2, climate change, and the sun are intimately connected in ways never envisioned.

No wonder the sun seems to be slowing down.

With apologies to the French, and everybody else for that matter.

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John Nicklin
September 30, 2008 4:27 pm

Thanks for the laugh. Even though it is funny, maybe you’re on to something. Maybe the ice cold cola is cooling the sun. Or the CO2 is somehow interfering with its nuclear reactions.

John-X
September 30, 2008 4:28 pm

Look how skinny that poor polar bear is!
He’s starving!
It’s always so hard being the last surviving cannibal.

John Nicklin
September 30, 2008 5:06 pm

Can’t be a Canadian polar bear, they all drink beer and are much wider around the middle.

grobokop
September 30, 2008 5:28 pm

“”Thanks for the laugh. Even though it is funny, maybe you’re on to something. Maybe the ice cold cola is cooling the sun. Or the CO2 is somehow interfering with its nuclear reactions.””
TSHHH!! There might be James Hansen reading it!

Retired Engineer
September 30, 2008 5:28 pm

Anthony, you are on a roll. With all the depressing news, I needed this.

J.Hansford.
September 30, 2008 5:49 pm

It’s not so much Polar Bears…… But rather Bi-Polar Environmentalists…. 😉 hehe..

Mike Bryant
September 30, 2008 6:12 pm

It’s a solar polar rendezvous, with a little bubbly.

doug janeway
September 30, 2008 6:16 pm

John Nicklin (17:06:26) :
Can’t be a Canadian polar bear, they all drink beer and are much wider around the middle.
John,
It’s a French bear. French bears drink wine and watch their weight.

Rick Sharp
September 30, 2008 7:19 pm

Cool!

Leon Brozyna
September 30, 2008 7:45 pm

If it’s not the oil companies it’s the big multinationals like Coca-Cola® polluting the atmosphere with all that CO2. Look out Atlanta – another climate change hot spot.
Now I’m thirsty – time to pop a red can…

Bobby Lane
September 30, 2008 7:51 pm

Hmm, the Sun must be taking sips then. Because if it was guzzling it, I would imagine the pressure would amount to a solar burp (flare) and we haven’t seen one of those for a while. I guess it’s using a straw.

Zappi
September 30, 2008 7:52 pm

Very nice! You just forgot to mention that the CO2 in the coke is not natural CO2. It’s man-made! For the erudites: anthropogenic!

Jon Jewett
September 30, 2008 7:58 pm

Oh.
Engineer humor.
Steamboat Jack

John Nicklin
September 30, 2008 9:36 pm

Doug Janeway,
Sorry I was confused, I thought people might think it was le canadienne-française ours polaire. as we are fond of calling the great white beast of the north.
But as you point out, it must be Parisien or maybe from Versailles. Too skinny for my Canadian blood, too how shall I say, sange froid.

H
September 30, 2008 9:39 pm

Zappi you make a very good point in jest.
When people try to big note themselves they revert to Latin or Greek. We no longer say “personal attacks” we say “ad hominem”. We don’t say “man-made”, because its sexist, but neither do we say “human-made”, we have to say “anthropogenic”. Five syllables is much better than two or three. And if people need a dictionary to understand then so much the better!
What I have found in my experience is that those that don’t really understand resort to these tactics more readily than those who are truly erudite.
Who coined “anthropogenic global warming” anyway?

Alan the Brit
September 30, 2008 10:51 pm

I was always convinced Anthropogenic was a buereaucratic construct to sound technical.
As I think I have said before, ban champgne, beer, all sparkling wines, coke, pepsi, 7-up, in fact anything that used “food grade” CO2. That’ll put a dampner on those intellectual greens celebrations!
Why do I get the impression that certain establishments are gradually dropping in little hints here & there that the Sun may have a bigger effect on climate than is generally (IPCC) accpeted? Could it be they are bracing themselves for the, “Oh I always said this was the case but my colleagues wouldn’t believe me” factor in a few years time?

Renaud
October 1, 2008 1:22 am

can’t be a french bear… “le coca! quelle horreur” No it can’ be french it would be wine and he/she will be smoking a Gauloise!
Otherwise thanks for the laugh

Jerry
October 1, 2008 2:43 am

Alan
You sense the wheels starting to come off too, do you?

Patrick Henry
October 1, 2008 5:10 am

Jerry,
I can’t see the “wheels coming off” anytime soon. AGW is not about science. It is about power and control, and the politicians/press behind it will not cede that control easily. It could take five years of cold weather and serious power shortages to begin to see any cracks in the wall.

CBrehmer
October 1, 2008 7:18 am

I heard some environmentalists wanted to transplant the polars to the south pole since it’s not melting as fast. That was called into question due to the fact that it would make the bears bi-polar. 🙂

John Galt
October 1, 2008 8:03 am

Where does the CO2 from Coca Cola come from and where does it go?
Maybe along with beef, we should also ration carbonated beverages? I don’t know where the CO2 in soda comes from, is it extracted from the atmosphere? It doesn’t matter, let’s ban it anyway just in case.

My Little Paper
October 1, 2008 8:33 am

Abstract:
The carbon cool the sun so that the earth gets cooler and the ice and sea releases less carbon, and we’ll have more polar beers to feed the sun with more carbon which will decrease rapidly in a positive feedback. By evidence in this observation we are now heading towards a bear made ice age.

Ed Scott
October 1, 2008 8:48 am

Dr. Pachauri strikes again.
Meat must be rationed to four portions a week, says report on climate change
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/sep/30/food.ethicalliving/print

Ray
October 1, 2008 9:04 am

Something Pepsi Co. will be able to use against Coca Cola Co.!

Ray
October 1, 2008 9:07 am

“I heard some environmentalists wanted to transplant the polars to the south pole since it’s not melting as fast.”
Oh the carnage that would make… all those penguins for food!
There must be a good reason why there are no polar bears in the south pole… maybe it is to darn cold there and there is not that many places where they can fish through the ice.

Alan B
October 1, 2008 10:08 am

Hi Ed
Not our dear Doctor but a team at University of Surrey in the UK.
http://www.fcrn.org.uk/frcnResearch/publications/PDFs/CuaS_web.pdf
(But only if you are prepared to wade through 156 pages (!) of dreadfully verbose and repetitive prose.)
From the Abstract:
“Changes in behaviour – in what and how we eat – are essential. As priorities, we need to reduce our consumption of meat and dairy foods, to eat no more than we need to keep ourselves healthy, to limit consumption of food that is of little nutritional value, and not waste food. Efforts to encourage us voluntarily to change will not achieve what is needed in the time
available. Regulatory and fiscal measures that change the context within which we consume are vital.”
Translation:
We will use the Law and we will tax you until you do what you are told …

John Galt
October 1, 2008 10:09 am

Maybe the Coca Cola can be used to keep the polar ice cap cool in the summer? It’s refreshing, too!

Gary Hladik
October 1, 2008 10:19 am

“Who coined ‘anthropogenic global warming’ anyway?”
Toner cartridge makers.

Ray
October 1, 2008 10:19 am

Alan – Almost all past revolutions have been over food. This is a thing that can’t be touched by any politician. If they even try, they will live the consequences of their bad decision. They should really learn from the past.

evanjones
Editor
October 1, 2008 11:41 am

Meat must be rationed to four portions a week, says report on climate change
Let them eat cake.

Ray
October 1, 2008 1:19 pm

Is there any such thing as a obese sun?

Ed Scott
October 1, 2008 1:19 pm

The endearing Congress which We the People have elected and others have bought.
An excerpt from a Mark Steyn article about earmarks in the bail-out bill which has a global warming analogy: “I suppose sophisticated insiders would assure me that regrettably there’s no possibility of earmark reform; this is just the price of doing business in Washington. But that’s why non-sophisticated non-insiders hold the political class in contempt. The same blowhards who run for office on a platform of lowering ocean levels and healing the planet then turn around and insist they’re unable to do anything about the one small area of human endeavor for which they bear sole responsibility.”

Ed Scott
October 1, 2008 4:16 pm

Several bedtimes worth of reading: How the SCOTUS defined CO2 as a pollutant.
MASSACHUSETTS ET AL. v. ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY ET AL.
http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/06pdf/05-1120.pdf
From the oplinion of the Court: “He found that petitioners’ affidavits more than adequately supported the conclusion that EPA’s failure to curb greenhouse gas emissions contributed to the sea level changes that threatened Massachusetts’ coastal property.”

Mikey NTH
October 1, 2008 4:43 pm

I remember a phot in the Detroit News a few years back (may have been about ten years) of French farmers leading a protest, driving their tractors. On the windshield of the lead tractor was a sticker reading ‘New Holland’.
Tres funny.

Editor
October 2, 2008 5:19 am

Ray (13:19:07) :
> Is there any such thing as a obese sun?
Yep. It’s called a Red Giant. It’s the likely fate of our sun. It will expand so much that it will engulf Earth. You probably want to be out that day.
OT: Odd search terms.
The web traffic data I get from my ISP usually includes things like source links, and search engines generally pass in the search string. I got a hit yesterday for my climate science page from a search for “What type of personality is best for a climatologist?” (My page has no direct answer for that.) It’s certainly easy to give examples of bad personalities!
My page is not the sort of thing people go looking for, and people who would most benefit from it have no idea they need it. So I’m happy when people stumble upon it. I have a cartoon referring to the leaning tower of Pisa, and get a hit or two each day from searches like “galileo leaning tower of pisa.” Even spellings like piza and pizza work!
Sometimes I learn something, as search for “aristotle’s rules of motion” may not have been really a query about Newtonian physics, Aristotle did formulate laws of motion, see http://galileoandeinstein.physics.virginia.edu/lectures/aristot2.html

leif svaalgaard (imposter)
October 2, 2008 5:54 am

[THIS PERSON HAS BEEN PERMANENTLY BANNED FROM THE BLOG FOR IMPERSONATING DR. SVALGAARD – ANTHONY]
I deleted a bunch, can we ban IP address ~ Charles.

Jeff Alberts
October 2, 2008 7:56 am

I remember a phot in the Detroit News a few years back (may have been about ten years) of French farmers leading a protest, driving their tractors. On the windshield of the lead tractor was a sticker reading ‘New Holland’.

Maybe they just wanted new tractors: http://www.newholland.com/h4/index.asp?Reg=FR&RL=FRFR

October 2, 2008 1:16 pm

CO(1)ca CO(2)la. Now we know the drink was named after the gas. Or perhaps the gas was named after the drink. Solar polar Cola.

ClimateFanBoy
October 3, 2008 11:34 am

“Oh the carnage that would make… all those penguins for food!
There must be a good reason why there are no polar bears in the south pole… maybe it is to darn cold there and there is not that many places where they can fish through the ice.”
They’d have to compete with those vicious leopard seals. Of course Polar Bears usually make quick work of Walrusses, Leopard Seal couldn’t be that much more difficult.
Polar Bear would have to migrate a long way to naturally reach the south pole. They tend to overheat, don’t think they would make it through the tropics. Whales have the advantage of swimming in a temperature-regulated ocean. Sorry for getting off track, I’ll let the experts continue the topic at hand.

Usuallylurking
October 3, 2008 6:29 pm

On a related take, this Onion article is pretty funny.
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29388

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