Snow from space: University of Leicester releases satellite images of snow-bound UK
Satellite images of UK under snow available
IMAGE: This is an image of snow-bound UK from space by MERIS on Nov. 29. Click here for more information.
Earth observation scientists at the University of Leicester have recorded stunning images of the UK’s winter landscape by orbiting satellites.
European Space Agency satellite instruments have been observing the icy blast in the UK from their vantage points in space.
Leicester scientists have used two instruments, MERIS and AATSR, which have returned stunning images of a snow-bound UK from observations on November 29th and December 1st.
In the MERIS images, the colour scale runs from white snow and clouds to green vegetation. In the AATSR images, the non-snow areas are coloured red to highlight differences to the white snow. The change in snow cover within two days is clearly visible.
The AATSR instrument has been funded in the UK by the Department for Energy and Climate Change, and is a centrepiece of a new exhibition at the Science Museum, entitled ‘Atmosphere … exploring climate science’. The exhibition was formally opened by HRH Prince Charles today, December 3rd, and will be open to the public from tomorrow (December 4th).
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Professor John Remedios, Head of Earth Observation Science at the University of Leicester, said “These images demonstrate how much our local climate depends on a combination of the climate mean temperature in a given month and the meteorological variability which can produce very cold and very warm months. For the UK, it is another cold winter. At one time a few years ago our children complained that there was never any snow. Now there is plenty!”
He added “Each year we need to make careful observations in order to increase the accuracy of the weather prediction. The AATSR instrument is both very good at measurements for climate and for weather forecasting”
The AATSR instrument is flown on the European Space Agency (ESA) satellite, Envisat, launched in 2002, alongside ESA’s MERIS instrument. The AATSR measures fundamental climate variables such as sea and land surface temperature, aerosols and clouds whilst the MERIS instrument is able to observe vegetation greenness and ocean colour, and their change over the seasons. The Envisat recently underwent a controlled orbit change to extend its lifetime to 2013. The images show that the instruments are working very well.
For more information contact Professor John Remedios on j.j.remedios@le.ac.uk
Images available from pressoffice@le.ac.uk
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Image credits:
AATSR 29 November 2010. Credit: AATSR data @ ESA, and University of Leicester
AATSR 01 December 2010. Credit: AATSR data @ ESA, and University of Leicester
MERIS 29 November 2010. Credit: MERIS data @ ESA, and University of Leicester
MERIS 01 December 2010. Credit: MERIS data @ ESA, and University of Leicester
I detect little bit of the “this is weather, not climate” weasel dance from the University of Leicester spokesman.
Yeah, the weasel dance, but what else can they do? Admit they were wrong and dry up all their funding? I think not!
In Spokane, WA USA, we very nearly equalled the 1947(?) -9*F record low for the day, just before our Thanksgiving Day… reached -8*F. Also, for the month of November we exceeded the previous (1955) all-time recorded snowfall of 20″.
I love shoveling snow. It’s awesome excersize! Where else can an over-50 person move tons of anything by hand, in a 2-3 hour period, working up a sweat and not suffer heat-stroke?
Oh and it’s free, so long as Gang-Green doesn’t make our energy costs necessarily skyrocket! 🙂
Doug:
Cold down there eh?
Powell River, BC Canada here.
Coldest winter in years.
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Wow, it’s worse than we ever predicted! It’s the hottest year on record, which is obviously why there’s so much snow and ice.
Looks like the west coast commenters are still awake, but barely…and Europe ought to be checking in any time–after brekky. 🙂
Everybody knows these are photos from the past. They were taken nearly two hundred years ago from the early satellite DICKENS-1.
Bratislava, Slovakia hit its 60-years minimum. It is -16°C ATM, less by 2-3 °C than 1950-2009 minimum. Should not be exactly those low winter night temperatures eradicated by that increased “radiative forcing”?
Next thing you know, someone will raise the temperature water freezes at to explain it all away.
“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is”
http://www.independent.co.uåk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html
Ten years ago, on Monday, 20 March 2000, Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia made the above prediction.
David, how did you get your prediction wrong?
Here is the proper link for the story
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html
This and the other satellite images posted a few days ago are very misleading. Certainly on November 29th most of the south of England had not seen any snow at all, and even on December 1st we here (Bracknell, Berkshire) only had a fine dusting (and an inch or so on December 2nd). Parts of the southwest never saw any at all during this spell. But what I do know is that it was totally cloudy here at the time of all these photos. You will notice that all the photos show an awful lot of cloud. To claim that 100% of the UK is snow covered is simply not true.
I like to know how the school teaches get around this one .I think it will be a snow job
A Times article titled, “Freezing Britons told: You’d better get used to it.” was reproduced in the Dominion Post here in New Zealand. There is a quote from, ‘the man in charge of the Government’s emergency review of Britain’s winter resilience said, “The public will have to get used to the disruption unless they are willing to pay for more snow ploughs and gritting lorries.” David Quarmby’s comments came as motorists , rail and airline passengers spent a second night sleeping in makeshift shelters after the snow closed roads, railways and four airports.’
Quarmby saved his best ’til last though when he predicted that, ‘climate change was likely to make snowfall less common but more intense.’ With two lots of almost nationwide snow coverage at either end of the same calendar year, is that what he means by ‘less common?’ If so, I’d hate to think what he means by ‘more intense!’
David Quarmby and Dr David Viner, with his prediction, fall into the category of ‘the hopeless.’ As my father still says, “There’s no hope for the hopeless.” The question is, can there be any hope for Great Britain if people like this are running the show?
Cheers
Coops
Here in sunny, but still freezing, Yorkshire in the northern part of the UK, we had temperatures down to -19c on Friday 3rd, the coldest for more than a century. Last time it was colder than that (-22c) was in 1895. Bet the Victorians in those days would have loved a bit of global warming.
And they managed to survive in those freezing conditions without central heating or thermal underwear!
On a lighter note a software fault is being blamed this year for the electric trains not being able to run. I suppose that is better than telling us it is the “wrong kind of snow” as they did in previous years.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/8181494/Fault-in-train-software-leaves-them-unable-to-operate-in-snow-and-ice.html
This article in the Telegraph is illustrated by the steam train on the North Yorkshire Railway that has no problems with running in the snowy conditions. They didn’t even have to clear the snow from the line. Built in 1934 and running on fossil fuels….oh dear!
George Monbiot in the Guardian opines that this inconvenient cold weather has been sent by God:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/georgemonbiot/2010/dec/02/cancun-climate-change-summit-monbiot
Elsewhere in the Guardian, “Green Santa” is apparently urging children to make eco-pledges to stop his runway melting in the heat:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/dec/03/children-climate-change-television-santa
Piers Corbyn of Weather Action has issued a rather alarming forecast for northern Europe.
WeatherAction ESSENCE of WINTER Forecast 2010-11 for Britain, Ireland & Europe
http://www.weatheraction.com/docs/WANews10No37.pdf
“Winter Dec to Feb inclusive in Britain and Europe will be exceptionally cold and snowy – like hell frozen over at times – with much of England, Germany, Benelux and N France suffering one of the coldest winters for over 100 years. ”
Positive Weather Solutions are also predicting a colder than usual winter in the UK but nothing like as cold as Weather Action says.
December 2010
http://www.positiveweathersolutions.co.uk/UK-Month-Ahead-Forecast.php
Winter 2010/2011
http://www.positiveweathersolutions.co.uk/UK-Long-Range-Forecast.php
Both organisations believe that climate change is controlled mainly by natural forces, not human activity.
It’s freezing but the sun is shining. I’ll be going sledging later today. It’ll be amusing to glide swiftly downhill on all that lovely white global warming that’s been falling from the sky for over a week…
Jenn and Steep-
The West Coast of the North part of North America is very much awake at this hour.
kinda hard to ignore cold feet and the carbon taxed furnace running all night.
Try it sometime.
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Lets wait for the official adjusted data. This could still be the hotest winter in the northern hemisphere for the last 1000 years.
One of the lies that we are told about Global Warming is that fish stocks are depleting because they can’t cope with rising sea temperatures (which would be rubbish anyway, fish can swim to the poles and adapt but it’s a lie).
So why did last fridays UK Daily Telegraph contain a stunning photo of pink salmon from the Fraser River in British Columbia which photographer Alex Mustard was visiting to witness “the biggest salmon migration for almost 100 years”?
Did the salmon community get together and decide,” C’mon guys, let’s make this year a biggie because we don’t have long left” and then kindly let Mr Mustard know?
That link doesn’t work Girma. Try:
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html
Are the red patches on the AATSR image the last vestiges of global warming?
Just wondering…..
That increased “radiative forcing” is making it very cold in Norway too. After being encouraged by politicians, most people use electricity for heating their houses.
Who wants to freeze to death?
Now, since most use electricity, they made sure about 1/3 of the cost is CO2 taxes.
Oh yes, all those hydro-dams release sooooo much CO2.
And the result? When the price skyrocket because we empty the dams by selling electricity to other countries, everyone runs to the marked and buy WOOD!
Me too. Yuo just cant afford that electricity bill.
Girma,
but the article does make a good point about open-air skating. If this warming trend keeps up people will have to skate in indoor rinks during the winter because it is too cold to skate outdoors.
Max-
I have building operations on my resume.
You have to heat indoor rinks all the time.
Or “city” people start complaining.
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….and a hum came suddenly into his head, which seemed a Good Hum, such is Hummed Hopefully to Others:
“The more it snows
(Tiddely pom,)
The more it goes
(Tiddely pom,)
The more it goes
(Tiddely pom,)
On snowing.
And nobody knows,
(Tiddely pom,)
How cold my toes,
(Tiddely pom,)
How cold my toes,
(Tiddely pom,)
Are growing.
‘The House At Pooh Corner.’ A.A. Milne
“Dave Sergeant says:
December 5, 2010 at 12:15 am”
To claim, with 90% certainty, that the climate is changing and it is due to emssions of C02 as a result of human activity, is also not true.
@ Rossa
“This article in the Telegraph is illustrated by the steam train on the North Yorkshire Railway that has no problems with running in the snowy conditions. They didn’t even have to clear the snow from the line. Built in 1934 and running on fossil fuels….oh dear!”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/8181494/Fault-in-train-software-leaves-them-unable-to-operate-in-snow-and-ice.html
By coincidence almost exactly the same thing happened last winter in another part of England. It was discussed in this forum at the time.
Steam train rescues stranded passengers in Britain where electric trains failed
Posted on December 25, 2009 by Anthony Watts
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/25/steam-train-rescues-stranded-passengers-in-britain-where-electric-trains-failed/
“Passengers were rescued by a steam locomotive after modern rail services were brought to a halt by the snowy conditions in south-east England.”
Of course steam trains have an advantage over modern electric trains – they were not designed with global warming in mind!
Everyone’s missing the point – there are TWO kinds of snow – the traditional sort, which we’re seeing much less of (Dr David Viner was right), and AGW snow which much of the northern hemisphere is getting now. There are also two kinds of temperature – the kind that thermometers measure worldwide (except where it’s warming the most, where there aren’t any) and the corrected sort that appear in global datasets like GISS and USHCN. Without the valuable work the scientists in these organisations have done over the years, it might appear to the untrained mind (and sceptical journalists – is there any other kind?) that the earth is not warming at all, perhaps even cooling. We owe them a vote of thanks – they’ve delivered the final triumph of rational science over measurement.
Mostly Harmless-
I s your handle a joke?
I suspect you missed the [sarc] tag
Either that or you sir, are a fool.
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North of Scotland, freezing and deep in snow for the past week. Clearly caused by Arctic winds from Siberia, yet we Scots insist on calling the weather “f—- baltic”.
Can the Climate Rapid Response Team help…?
http://www.climaterapidresponse.org/
Mostly Harmless-
I s your handle a joke?
I suspect you missed the [sarc] tag
He did miss it and I had a chuckle anyway.
Nice! These are the days we are living for 😉
And furthermore for the benefit of the non home owning city apartment-dwellers,
I’m a tradesman, forced to wear my work gear inside my home.
I want those university types to step into my world and choose between food and heat.
See how long the agenda lasts THEN!.
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OK Guys, what have you done with our summer ???
Not had a day over 26C yet, here in tropical Queensland. (should be 30+ by now)
(except at the airport where the Stevenson Screen is right next to the jet taxi way.)
The whole east coast looks as though it will go under water shortly, from floods, not sea rise.
Desal plants put into moth balls, dams 100% + full. (another bloody failure)
So where is our summer, and where is the ongoing drought, rain was predicted to be a “rare and wonderful thing” that our kids will never see !!! (because of “Climate “disruption” (mann made))
Another weekend gone by with my boat sitting in the marina waiting for the wind and rain to stop !!!
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Dave Sergeant : December 5, 2010 at 12:15 am
Not much snow in Bracknell perhaps but 21 inches measured in Sevenoaks, Kent on 2nd December (on the roof of a car so no drifting) and it was still snowing as it had been for two days.
Rossa says:
December 5, 2010 at 12:43 am
“On a lighter note a software fault is being blamed this year for the electric trains not being able to run. I suppose that is better than telling us it is the “wrong kind of snow” as they did in previous years.”
It doesn’t look like a software fault to me. It sounds like the software was designed to shut down the motors when it detects irregular voltage spikes in the voltage from the third rail, probably as a safety measure to prevent damage to the motors or the contacts or whatever. Which it probably did just as desired – train comes to a safe halt, no passenger or train hardware damaged. Sounds like a designed behaviour to me.
So, the fault is in the system requirements when they end up with thousands of people stranded, not in the software or hardware implementation.
Was on Rai TV (Italy) main news just now: Record freeze gripping Europe, 60 dead.
So it is a north-hemi record freeze in a year that’s supposed to be a record hot when there were no record hots anywhere north or south, except the Russian one-off.
“….and children would not know what snow is by 2010”
and what’s happening in Cancun? News blackout?
“Professor John Remedios, Head of Earth Observation Science at the University of Leicester, said “These images demonstrate how much our local climate depends on a combination of the climate mean temperature in a given month and the meteorological variability which can produce very cold and very warm months.”
Wow, the images “demonstrate” all that CAGW doublespeak and twisted logic. Amazing.
“Each year we need to make careful observations in order to increase the accuracy of the weather prediction”.
That should have read: We have to stop issuing bias weather predictions that support the AGW scam.
MostlyHarmless says:
December 5, 2010 at 2:57 am
Everyone’s missing the point – there are TWO kinds of snow – the traditional sort, which we’re seeing much less of (Dr David Viner was right), and AGW snow
You missed the third type of snow, that needs much more study.
hope I don’t forget the sarc tag :0) don’t want confusion to reign.
“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” (Dr David Viner)
That’s odd, for the last five years, all our local schools down here in the South of England have had snow day closures. But hey, don’t let observable facts get in the way of modeled predictions!
So they built two lots of sensors into the AATSR? One lot to measure climate and the other to measure weather? Nice to see the Weather sensors are working as planned and have detected recent cold European winters accurately. Must be a relief for the AGW crowd that they didn’t even register on the Climate sensors: some good lack of data there to feed into future GCM’s. Oh well, despite the depressing, obligatory prostrating to AGW orthodoxy and pathological doublethink, some great pictures and good work by Leicester Uni.
I remember that steam trains rarely had difficulty keeping passengers warm, but what about electric trains stranded on the line? What heating is available then to keep passengers from freezing to death?
The local council spent my tax on a Climate Change Advisory team, failed to make any contracts with farmers to clear minor roads, sold off the snow plows years ago and doesn’t have the money to clear residential roads or fill grit bins. The Climate Change Advisory team were not out with shovels removing the weather from the pavements but it would have been a valuable experience for them and the first useful thing they have done.
Do satellites emit greenhouse gases when they use their thrusters to change orbit? If so, can I get one to fly over Wallow County (and Union County while it’s up there for Douglas) so we can add some greenhouse gas to our atmosphere? Thanks so much.
…must get more wood, must get more wood…
Oops. Speeding ticket. “Wallowa”, not “Wallow”.
I remember being told that “Heat” would be most obvious in the higher latitudes.
That the lower latitudes would change very little, if anything cooler.
This obviously led to the “children will not know what snow is” prediction.
Since they got this so wrong, what is the spin/hindcast to justify it now?
30 years more of this weather and worst. Glad there is Glimate Warming causing Glimate Cooling.
Pass the Copenhagen and a beer. Game’s on!
Here in snowbound Scotland the Sunday Herald environment (CAGW) correspondent is now saying that colder than normal winters is a prediction of Global Warming theory.
However unfortunately for him the Met Office (close allies of UAE) have predicted 3 mild winters for the last three years.
You would think they could at least tell a consistent story!
I see the regular trolls are defending CAGW and pretending that the Snow does not exist and that practially the wntire UK was blanketed again (second time this year).
How about this one – no one can deny this really is snow and a lot of it!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-11921396
Same story here in Ireland, 60/70% of the country has snow lying on the ground for several days. This would be rare even in January, but to start in late November probably hasn’t been seen in over 100 years.
In fact, I can safely say that in the last 11 months, snow has lay on the ground outside my house longer, then in the total 14 years that I have lived here.
Last year, the lakes around my area were frozen solid enough for cattle to walk on, first time in 30 years. This year, the same lakes already have about 2″ ice thickness.
I wonder what January has in store for us?? Brrrrrr!!
Again we see a blocking high pressure over the Atlantic/Baltic, sending the anticyclones down the Mediterranean – just like last winter. This is caused by the jetstreams tracking further south than usual.
Question is, why does this happen? Can there be a solar influence on the path of the jetsreams? If this is possible, it would certainly explain a corelation between cold northern weather and a lack of sunspots. But the mechanism is unclear.
It would also suggest that the Maunder minimum, if this was its cause, would have been a high-latitude event, rather than global.
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And Piers Corbyn suggests the UK will run out of gritting salt again, just like last year.
If so, some local advice – don’t go anywhere near Winsford in Cheshire. I got stuck behind 500 trucks picking up salt from the mine there. Absolute chaos, delayed for hours.
DirkH says:
December 5, 2010 at 5:27 am
It doesn’t look like a software fault to me. It sounds like the software was designed to shut down the motors when it detects irregular voltage spikes in the voltage from the third rail, probably as a safety measure to prevent damage to the motors or the contacts or whatever. Which it probably did just as desired – train comes to a safe halt, no passenger or train hardware damaged. Sounds like a designed behaviour to me.
So, the fault is in the system requirements when they end up with thousands of people stranded, not in the software or hardware implementation.
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Absolutely correct sir. I recently retired from the UK rail industry after 35 years working in various parts of it and this was one thing I had to understand. The software shuts down the system if a spike is larger, or of longer duration, than a preset limit. One particular class of rolling stock has a, “ice-mode” setting; which is that by approval of the relevant control bodies, these settings can be coarsened when it’s clear that the weather conditions are likely to result in mass failures. That ought to be standard on all the classes of rolling stock fitted with that particular ICMU (Interference Current Monitoring Unit) but maybe things have changed since I had anything to do with it.
It is correct that older 3rd rail rolling stock tends not to have this problem as it’s electrical circuitry is electro-mechanically controlled and therefore less susceptible to interference.
One thing I have seen in years gone by is train fires caused by ice on the conductor rail. The large beam holding the current collector shoe to the train is usually wooden; sparks from bad contacts have been known to set the beam alight. It looks spectacular if nothing else!
Ralph:
It is becoming clearer by the day that the size of the polar vortices and thus global cloud quantities, global albedo and the amount of energy entering the oceans is affected by the mix of particles from the sun affecting ozone reactions above 45km.That mix of particles is wholly dependent on the level of solar activity.
That is then modulated by the rate at which internal oceanic variability releases that same energy back to the air.
The latitudinal position of the jetstreams is dependent on the interaction between the top down solar forcing via the horizontal extent of the polar vortices and the bottom up oceanic forcig via the internal ocean cycles (involving both surface currents and on a longer time scale the thermohaline circulation).
The jets simply shift as necessary to maintain sea surface and surface air equilibrium as best they can.
That is the mechanism behind all observed climate changes. Simple.
See here:
http://climaterealists.com/index.php?id=6645
“How The Sun Could Control Earth’s Temperaure”.
The only adjustment I would make would be to aver that it is not just solar protons that are responsible for the observed effects.
Pamela Gray says:
December 5, 2010 at 8:04 am
Do satellites emit greenhouse gases when they use their thrusters to change orbit? If so, can I get one to fly over Wallow County (and Union County while it’s up there for Douglas) so we can add some greenhouse gas to our atmosphere? Thanks so much.
…must get more wood, must get more wood…
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Beat ya to it. I took on another years (2011-20012) supply of wood pellets.
Bring on the snow!!!!
Rossa says:
December 5, 2010 at 12:38 am
Don’t be silly. Of course the Victorians had thermal underwear. It was made of wool instead of plastic, that’s all. Wool, feathers, fur and plant fibres are still best for insulation and breathability.
Weather report from sweden: we reached our dimensioning outdoor temperature (-22C) last week, almost the whole country is covered by snow since about two weeks ago. :o)
Hey, Anthony. What’s up with these pathetic weather pattern blog posts? Where are your corresponding posts re: areas around the GLOBE experiencing record heat and/or drought, e.g. Israel? … not that they, taken in isolation, would have much direct relevance to the AGW discussion either …..
Just curious.
Jack Greer said, 11.36am
Hey, haven’t you noticed that the jet streams have moved south and that is the reason for the record cold in North Europe and probably also the warmth in places like Israel etc?
Which of course brings into question what has caused such a shift and how long will it last. But certainly it seems that there are greater forces at work here than the rise in CO2.
Global warming is so, like, “yesterday”….the next big panic is ocean acidification:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/8177990/Cancun-climate-summit-Britains-salmon-at-risk-from-ocean-acidification.html
This about all they have left, watch for it.
Just a link. Global Snow Lab at Rutgers University:
http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/index.php
Jack Greer says:
December 5, 2010 at 11:36 am
“Hey, Anthony. What’s up with these pathetic weather pattern blog posts? Where are your corresponding posts re: areas around the GLOBE experiencing record heat and/or drought, e.g. Israel? … not that they, taken in isolation, would have much direct relevance to the AGW discussion either …..”
As you know, the vast majority of those “hot” places are in remote areas that have no inhabitants or temperature measuring instruments. This website has no information about them. My guess is that Anthony chooses not to speculate on them. There is a standard, pro-AGW speculation, namely, that those areas are getting hotter and hotter and hotter…
Dave Andrews said, December 5, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Oh, I know very well about the jet streams. It underlines why it’s such nonsense to post isolated weather pattern blog entries which many here then interpret as further disproof of AGW threats.
REPLY: Mr. Greer. As I’ve told many a griper like yourself, I report on the weather – always have, always will, it’s in the masthead and on the sidebar. And, I’ll point out to you that this post comes via press release from the University of Leicester, distributed world wide via Eurekalert, and repeated here, which is the purpose of the press release; to have other outlets use it.
So if this post on weather offends your delicate nonsensical feelings about the “pathetic” merit of this press release, then please, by all means, take it up with Eurekalert here and DEMAND that they immediately cease and desist from every carrying such things again.
Then for good measure from the press release: Contact: Professor John Remedios j.j.remedios@le.ac.uk at the University of Leicester and DEMAND that he never issue such pathetic news releases again.
If you get them to comply, I’ll happily follow.
Otherwise kindly STHU. Thank you for your consideration. – Anthony
Bryan says:
December 5, 2010 at 8:58 am
Here in snowbound Scotland the Sunday Herald environment (CAGW) correspondent is now saying that colder than normal winters is a prediction of Global Warming theory.”
How do these people say stuff like this and keep a straight face? Why would you get colder winters with global warming? Does it snow on Venus, the CAGW favorite analogy?
Jack Greer says on December 5, 2010 at 3:18 pm
There. Fixed that for you.
Look – it’s by now well established –
The more global warming – the more snow.
End of story.
Now, here’s the one about the three bears ——-
Jack Greer says:
December 5, 2010 at 11:36 am
Hey, Anthony. What’s up with these pathetic weather pattern blog posts? Where are your corresponding posts re: areas around the GLOBE experiencing record heat and/or drought, e.g. Israel? … not that they, taken in isolation, would have much direct relevance to the AGW discussion either …..
Just curious.
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Yes, Jack, you sure are curious!
You didn’t show up on, for example, the glass planets thread, to set us all straight on the intricacies of absorption spectra, but you bring your puerile mewling here, thinking you’ll win converts to your “pathetic” obsession that AGW is going to destroy us.
Please, slink on back to RC and send over someone either a little more civil or a lot more competent.
Well at a guess AGW would be more accepted if it really was happening in places where most of us live. As it’s seems to being reported by the Warmists as mainly happening in remote, barely habited locations one has to ask; is it just normal weather patterns or are we being suckered by special interest scientists? Of course more direct measurements covering the whole globe (ones that we could all get data from) would solve this problem. It would be interesting to see what the cost of all the necessary automatic weather stations would be compared to a single build and launch of another satellite.
Well Anthony, my gripe isn’t really with your reporting of weather. It’s more about your very selective reporting of specific weather. It’s more to do with how your followers torture the significance of the weather until it falls into line their view on climate science. Just look at the responses to your OP … completely without scientific basis or logic or accuracy … and you encourage that. That is what is pathetic.
REPLY: Gosh, your hyposcrisy is astounding. I note that you seem perfectly OK (based on your lack of comments) with those times when people on other blogs claimed that the heat wave in Russia this summer (which we covered here and here and here) was “proof” of global warming theory. This happens every winter. I’ve been through this dozens of times with whiners like you, I place up something about winter weather, totally valid and timely, from and an accredited news or university source, and people go ballistic saying I’m “selectively reporting”. And for the record, I don’t tell people what to comment on or how. There’s plenty of comments on AGW blogs on how the Russian heatwave “proved” AGW.
Well here’s the deal. It’s my blog, it’s winter, and I’ll post what interests me, weather, climate, science, tech, whatever I feel like. If don’t like that, look elsewhere but stop wasting my time with “pathetic” complaints.- Anthony
Maybe Jack would be happy if you posted something from the Southern Hemisphere, say Australia, where CAGW advocates told us it was expected to dry up and blow away.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/flood-losses-could-top-1bn-farmers/story-e6frg6nf-1225966336819
Great photo, too.
I told everybody all last year to buy more snow removal equipment and lots of salt. Don’t come crying to me now if you didn’t listen.
I didn’t miss out any /sarc tags – I assumed readers here would be able to spot heavy sarcasm when they see it. The final sentence expresses my view (almost) exactly, though I’d change it slightly to:
We owe them a vote of thanks – they’ve delivered the final triumph of rational science and modelling over measurement.