Josh writes:
Victor Venema’s comment the other day about needing 30 alarmists posts to balance out a Curry post rang true – skeptic arguments are that good!
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Josh writes:
Victor Venema’s comment the other day about needing 30 alarmists posts to balance out a Curry post rang true – skeptic arguments are that good!
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I was expecting an old fashioned scale with Curry on one side and 30 very small Mann lookalikes on the other
Truth triumphs over lies.
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Enxtim, did you say flies?
JC-30, now with a straw applicator to reach the most stubborn alarmists.
Meh, this is like the popular misconception of what ‘hide the decline’ meant, that is declining temperatures. The popular misconception is actually more useful polemically than the original fact. Victor only meant that so few climate scientists blog that it would take 30 of them before you found one blogging like Judy.
I think the reason this misconception has caught hold so strongly is that it inadvertently pointed out the relative honesty and perspicacity of Judy in comparison to the bulk of climate scientists. The number should actually be a thousand to one, or a million to one. Add in effectiveness to honesty and perspicacity, and we find the ratio incalculable, as Judy is unique.
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Science in a can….spray away alarmism today!
Posted at Principia Scientifica .
(The point being , that unless we get our act together the Alarmists will simply overwhelm us with consensus bollix.
Would someone please let us sceptics know who is correct in this matter(discussions between slayers and Roy Spencer) because I refuse to operate on opinion and it is indeed about time for some peer reviewed solid science on the subject of CO2 and its role, if any in CAGW, again, if any!)
As a non scientist , which numbers me amongst say 97% or more of the worlds population (that damned consensus again!)
What I would like to know is this, given that I am a sceptic but that’s a minority and given my ignorance of the subject and that’s probably way over 97%, how on Earth am I supposed to educate friends and associates on the subject when there is such a huge disparity of views amongst the Sceptics?
I have gone from quizzical to sceptic ,moved on to denier and now find myself lost between the luke warmers , some of whom I admire greatly ,Lord Monkton, Jo Nova etcetc and the Slayers view.
I tend to go with the math but where there is a divergence between the likes of Roy Spencer and yourself ,it is extremely difficult for a lay person to deal with.Instinct says go with the slayers for a number of reasons , but some of those would make me equally as hypocritical as some of the Warmistas.
Where to go for best advice?
I have been researching a huge number of sites and particularly like that of Stefan the Denier ,but this fighting is counter productive.Someone please prove the Science so that we can throw peer review back in the faces of the sheep.
And at a fraction of the cost too.
I hope that can of spray is powered by compressed CO2. Prof Lu at the Univ of Waterloo has shown that it is innocuous.
CAGW gatekeeper, Eric Holthaus is terrified. read all:
1 May: Slate: Eric Holthaus: Carbon Dioxide Levels in Atmosphere Reach Terrifying New Milestone
It’s official: Earth’s atmosphere is now in uncharted territory, at least since human beings evolved hundreds of thousands of years ago.
The Scripps Institute at the University of California-San Diego confirmed the news on Thursday:…
Every single daily carbon dioxide measurement in April 2014 was above 400 parts per million. That hasn’t happened in nearly a million years, and perhaps much longer…
That year, the late Scripps scientist Charles Keeling decided to start taking continuous measurements at the top of a volcano in the middle of the Pacific Ocean—about as far from contamination as possible…
His son, Ralph Keeling, now directs the CO2 program at Scripps, and maintains the iconic chart of atmospheric carbon dioxide that bears his father’s name: the Keeling Curve.
I spoke with Ralph on the phone on Wednesday about the new milestone… http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/05/01/mauna_loa_atmosphere_measurements_carbon_dioxide_levels_above_400_ppm_throughout.html
Thanks Josh.
kim says:
May 2, 2014 at 3:15 am
Meh, this is like the popular misconception of what ‘hide the decline’ meant, that is declining temperatures. The popular misconception is actually more useful polemically than the original fact. Victor only meant that so few climate scientists blog that it would take 30 of them before you found one blogging like Judy.
I think the reason this misconception has caught hold so strongly is that it inadvertently pointed out the relative honesty and perspicacity of Judy in comparison to the bulk of climate scientists. The number should actually be a thousand to one, or a million to one. Add in effectiveness to honesty and perspicacity, and we find the ratio incalculable, as Judy is unique.
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Except that there aren’t 1 million climate scientists, or 1000. There aren’t even 30 of them that are doing real science. There aren’t really any.
Heh, Alan, it’s clear Victor Venema can’t do math.
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They know they can’t win on either the science or the truth, so the only weapon they have left is to try to wear skeptics down through sheer exhaustion. They wish. That tactic may have worked in the bad old days, but there are too many of us now.
That Victor Venema is a truly funny guy. Josh should follow him carefully, as he looks to be a bottomless well of potential ‘toon subjects.
Catch this comment of Venema’s, from the 30:1 post over on Judith’s blog:
Hilarious!
And I bet he has a million of ’em.
Dynamo1 on Judith Currie’s site observed:
“30 Curries? One picocurry has more content than all the alarmists combined.”
Brilliant!
After reading the original post here at WUWT I clicked on the link to that new web-site (the one that did not Curry as a contributor). I was surprised by the effort they have invested and in the lack of comments on their stories (which are all alarmist). It seems as though they (CAGW alarmists) have entirely lost their audience.
Her strength is as the strength of thirty
Because her heart ain’t dirty
Although there is an “F” in skeptic factor, there is no “F” in global warming.
Ok I’m going.
With the Truth, she’s oh, so flirty;
Tempts us all, seduction early.
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Oops, almost missed the last sign: Burma Curry!
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Nice cartoon, Josh. You might do another in which she is instructing thirty kindergarteners in empirical methods in a lab setting. That image is why I call her Saint Judith.
I like her slapping a shaving cream pie in Michael Mann’s face.
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pat says:
May 2, 2014 at 4:00 am
“CAGW gatekeeper, Eric Holthaus is terrified. read all:
1 May: Slate: Eric Holthaus: Carbon Dioxide Levels in Atmosphere Reach Terrifying New Milestone
It’s official: Earth’s atmosphere is now in uncharted territory, at least since human beings evolved hundreds of thousands of years ago.”
Notice that all such headlines are political rather than scientific. Compare it to the claim that “Weapons of Mass Destruction Available to Terrorists Reach Terrifying New Milestone.” The number of claims containing “Reach Terrifying New Milestone” is indefinitely large and all of them are trivially true.