El Niño and La Niña events are the dominant modes of natural climate variability on Earth, which is why the state of the tropical Pacific is continuously monitored. El Niños and La Niñas impact weather patterns globally. As a number of recent papers have argued, the dominance of La Niña events in recent years is responsible for part of the cessation in global surface warming outside of the Arctic, so by inference, those papers are also stating that a string of strong El Niño events were responsible for part of the long-term warming from the mid-1970s to the turn of the century. There’s nothing new about that; for years we’ve been discussing the naturally occurring, sunlight-fueled processes that drive El Niño events and cause long-term warming of global surface temperatures. If this subject is new to you, see the link at the end of this post for an overview.
The World Meteorological Organization (WMO) provides the following summary of their ENSO forecasts in their January 30, 2014 El Niño/La Niña Update:
- ENSO conditions are currently neutral (neither El Niño nor La Niña);
- As of mid-January 2014, except for a small possibility for weak and brief La Niña development during the next couple of months, outlooks indicate likely continuation of neutral conditions into the second quarter of 2014;
- Current forecasts indicate approximately equal chances for neutral conditions or the development of a weak El Niño during the third quarter of 2014, reflecting increased chances for development of a weak El Niño.
It appears no one is suggesting that a full-fledged La Niña will form for the 2014/15 season. As of the week centered on February 5th, the sea surface temperature anomalies of the NINO3.4 region of the equatorial Pacific indicated that the tropical Pacific was experiencing La Niña conditions, though not an “official” La Niña. See the monthly sea surface temperature update for January 2014.
What’s your prediction? Please provide links to the variables you monitor. Here’s what I predict.
I predict, if we see El Niño conditions, global warming enthusiasts will cheer, because they have forecast, in turn, that record high global temperatures will accompany the next El Niño. And I predict, if we see La Niña or ENSO-neutral conditions, skeptics will cheer, because global surface temperatures should continue to remain flat. (Other than that, I don’t make predictions.)
The ENSO wrap-up from Australia’s Bureau of Meteorology (BOM) for February 14, 2014 provides a similar loose forecast. (For those who live north of the equator, keep in mind the BOM is discussing austral seasons.)
And NOAA’s CPC has a similar mix of possible scenarios in their Weekly ENSO Update dated February 10, 2014—though the NCEP’s models are forecasting El Niño conditions starting in April-June 2014. See page 27.
The WMO briefly mentions the problems with ENSO predictions during this part of the year. They write:
It must be noted that model outlooks that span March-May period tend to have particularly lower skill than those made at other times of year. Hence some caution should be exercised when using long range outlooks made at this time for the middle of the year and beyond.
ENSO predictions at this time of year are hampered by a problem called the Spring Prediction Barrier. See the discussion at the IRI website here. But a series of new papers claim to have overcome that hurdle.
The recently published Ludescher et al (2014) Very Early Warning of Next El Niño (paywalled) are predicting El Niño conditions by late 2014. The abstract reads:
The most important driver of climate variability is the El Niño Southern Oscillation, which can trigger disasters in various parts of the globe. Despite its importance, conventional forecasting is still limited to 6 mo ahead. Recently, we developed an approach based on network analysis, which allows projection of an El Niño event about 1 y ahead. Here we show that our method correctly predicted the absence of El Niño events in 2012 and 2013 and now announce that our approach indicated (in September 2013 already) the return of El Niño in late 2014 with a 3-in-4 likelihood. We also discuss the relevance of the next El Niño to the question of global warming and the present hiatus in the global mean surface temperature.
Global warming enthusiasts have already started cheering for an El Niño. See the Michael Slezak article in NewScientist titled El Niño may make 2014 the hottest year on record. And Andrew Freedman of ClimateCentral begins his post Study Sounds ‘El Niño Alarm’ For Late This Year:
A new study shows that there is at least a 76 percent likelihood that an El Niño event will occur later this year, potentially reshaping global weather patterns for a year or more and raising the odds that 2015 will set a record for the warmest year since instrument records began in the late 19th century.
Ludescher et al (2014) appears to be based on Ludescher et al (2013) Improved El Niño forecasting by cooperativity detection (paywalled). We discussed the earlier Ludescher et al paper in the July 2013 post El Niño in the News. I closed that post with:
DID GLOBAL WARMING CAUSE THE EL NIÑOS OR DID EL NIÑOS CAUSE GLOBAL WARMING?
Numerous datasets indicate that El Niño events are fueled naturally. Additionally, satellite-era sea surface temperature records indicate that El Niño events are responsible for the warming of sea surface temperatures over the past 31 years, not vice versa as Li et al (2013) have suggested. If this topic is new to you, refer to my illustrated essay “The Manmade Global Warming Challenge” [42MB].
Thanks for the update Bob. However, I’m not sure the following is correct:
” El Niños and La Niñas impact weather patterns globally. ”
I know it’s not your own idea, there is a lot of discussion of El Nino being some kind of driver. I’ve said serveral times in the past that I think it’s common cause not , direct causation.
RichardLH provided some interesting plots on tides recently.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/richardlinsleyhood/M2Tides_zps758f7faa.png
Here we can see a clear linkage of nino3.4 in the middle of the pacific with the other areas it’s is supposed to “impact”.
There is strong suggestion that there is some tidal “forcing” causing similar changes in several parts of the globe.
Oops. I also should have included a link to the following post for those new to El Niño and La Niña processes:
An Illustrated Introduction to the Basic Processes that Drive El Niño and La Niña Events
It’s odds on La Nada, with El Nino at 4:1 against and La Nina at 3:1 against. Warmists are putting their pensions on El Nino, Australian farmers are putting the farms on La Nina but the general population is firmly behind La Nada.
I predict that the climate will continue to change as it always has, and that we won’t be able to do very much about it, for two reasons: not only because we’re just one puny species on the face of a big planet, but mostly because we really don’t have a comprehensive understanding of what makes global climate systems tick in the first place.
That’s as far as I’ll go. 🙂
Greg says: “RichardLH provided some interesting plots on tides recently.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/richardlinsleyhood/M2Tides_zps758f7faa.png
Here we can see a clear linkage of nino3.4 in the middle of the pacific with the other areas it’s is supposed to “impact”.”
Sorry, I don’t see the “clear linkage of nino3.4 in the middle of the pacific”. All I see is a map that’s undefined.
Also, the weather-related impacts of ENSO have been studied for decades. For an introduction, see the NOAA webpage here:
http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/tao/elnino/impacts.html
Hoping for a La Nina this year-Australia is a bit dry, although we are having some nice, juicy rain at the moment. It is possible that by the end of next week, dam levels in all capital cities will be higher than a year ago, making Tim Flannery, once again, looking like a goose. Has he actually had a single prediction come true? Looking at the sinusoidal temperature curve, we are just entering a cooling phase. Looking forward to the poppycock excuse to explain away this. Wake up, the tactics of the warmists are EXACTLY those of habitual liars-lies to support lies. Poppycock excuses to support the lie that are difficult or near impossible to verify. Given the so-called “experts ” say 75% chance of El Nino, my bet is for a La Nina. Should be able to get good odds.
Hmmm. La Nina seems to be good for Australia… but also appears to be Bad, for California. Or am I mistaking La Nada for La Nina in California? All I know is, oh!bummer! wants to tax it.
” … I predict, if we see El Niño conditions, global warming enthusiasts will cheer, because they have forecast, in turn, that record high global temperatures will accompany the next El Niño. … “
Since the temperature data sets are massively fraudulent, I expect to see massive “adjustments” to the measured temperatures regardless of El Niño or La Niña conditions. The blatant fraud that is “climate science” proves that science is totally unworthy of the confidence that many moderns place in it.
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/02/15/a-good-visualization-of-us-temperature-fraud/
I’ve isolated a 9.3 year variation in Indian Ocean that corresponds to cyclic changes in the lunar declination angle.
http://climategrog.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=777
This shows warm water being transported in and out of the tropical portion of the Indian Ocean in a 9.3 year cycle. It seems that Willis’ tropical governor warms up the cooler surface when the warm water moves south, leading to a net warming rather than a neutral displacement of heat.
A more complex pattern seems to exist in Pacific and Atlantic that span both hemispheres. There is an interplay of 9.3 and 8.85
http://climategrog.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=754
Now that may come some way to your hypothesis that oceanic variations are behind the warming trend.
Surely, the longer the gap between El Niños , the higher the likelihood that one will come along?
I predict La Nina conditions for 2014
There will be sharp decline in SST temperature, confirming the general global cooling trend noted from 2002.
Why?
According to the a-c curve for the amount of energy coming in, 2014 is similar to 1925, looking at energy in…
http://blogs.24.com/henryp/2012/10/02/best-sine-wave-fit-for-the-drop-in-global-maximum-temperatures/
In 1925 there was a sharp decline in SST
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadsst2gl/from:1900/to:1940
Count on it. Tell everybody to get off their CO2 high horse and to start getting prepared for 2-3 decades of global cooling.
” All I see is a map that’s undefined. ”
It’s the M2 and K1 tides, if you know what they are.
This is URL at the top of the plot but difficult to read. I’ve asked Richard to provide a link.
The linkage is the NW pacific that is used to derived the PDO ‘index’ is in phase with the tides in the Nino3.4 region and with a whole string of zones around the whole of the equator.
A common tidal cause seems a lot more credible that some mysterious teleconnection that allows this tiny part of the Pacific to dictate global climate.
Amusing that the AGW proponents are at all interested in ENSO because, by predicting that El Nino raises global temperatures, they are implicity admiting that CO2 isn’t the ‘driver’ of temperatures they seem to think it is. If CO2 were the overriding ‘driver’ (and if the increase in CO2 drives temperatures higher) wouldn’t it have overcome the effects of both El Nino & La Nina? Still more interesting is the idea that natural processes like ENSO, PDO, AMO have somehow ‘conspired’ to exactly balance the CO2 driven temperature increases for over 17 years. I’m not a betting man, but, I’d be very hesitant to put money on that proposition being true.
Bob: “Also, the weather-related impacts of ENSO have been studied for decades. For an introduction, see the NOAA webpage here:”
That does not avoid the question : what is causing ENSO?
“It causes itself” has always seemed unsatisfactory to me, even if there maybe some postitive feedback in play.
A tidal cause would seem more likely.
http://s29.photobucket.com/user/richardlinsleyhood/media/M2Tides_zps758f7faa.png.html
The M2 pattern links N.Pac, N.Atl, Nino3.4 and the Indian Ocean is in anti-phase with the others.
The teleconnection is the moon !
Greg says: “The teleconnection is the moon !”
Please show me the data (time-series preferred compared to an ENSO index), not inconclusive maps that show very little relationship with ENSO.
I’ve zoomed in and got the original URLS.
http://www.altimetry.info/tools/popup_image.php3?/images/alti/dataflow/processing/geophys_corr/K1_fes2004_amp.gif
http://www.altimetry.info/tools/popup_image.php3?/images/alti/dataflow/processing/geophys_corr/M2_fes2004_amp.gif
Some link to description required.
the top level URL should explain where it all comes from.
http://www.altimetry.info/
“Please show me the data (time-series preferred compared to an ENSO index), ”
I’ve shown you physical data from 2004 that links the regions that ENSO is supposed to “impact”. I’m not saying I’ve got a wrapped up explanation of climate change of the last 200 years.
However, it shows a linkage of tidal variation between the regions that correlate with ENSO.
Further I have shown in the Indian Ocean I direct link between decadal SST variations and lunar declination that drives the tides.
If similar things happen in other oceans (and I’ve shown 9.3+8.85 in other basins) then we get a correlated decadal variation. Since ENSO and trade winds are driven by regional differences in SST, it seems that it’s all pointing to the same natural variation, of which ENSO is a part.
I’ve said for a long time that you are right about ENSO but that it is the mechanism and we need to seek the cause. I think this is starting to show what that cause may be.
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Greg says: “I’ve shown you physical data from 2004 that links the regions that ENSO is supposed to ‘impact’.”

Actually, you haven’t. You’ve presented maps, not data.
Greg says: “However, it shows a linkage of tidal variation between the regions that correlate with ENSO.”
Here’s a map the shows correlation of an ENSO index with satellite-era sea surface temperatures, with a 2-month lag:
I see no similarities between the maps you’ve provided and the one above.
Additionally, for example, the coupled ocean-atmosphere processes that cause the tropical North Atlantic to warm in response to an El Niño are well documented. See Wang (2005) ENSO, Atlantic Climate Variability, And The Walker And Hadley Circulation. And Trenberth et al. (2002) Evolution of El Nino–Southern Oscillation and global atmospheric surface temperatures provides very detailed discussions of how and why surface temperatures and precipitation throughout the globe respond to El Niños.
You’ve got a lot of work to do to before you can even attempt to make the claim that it’s the moon and not changes in atmospheric circulation that causes weather to vary in response to an El Niño.
Regards.
There are forecasts of a developing El Nino this year primarily because of the build-up of warm water in the equatorial undercurrent. Jan 2014 here. The big red spot.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/GODAS/mnth_gif/xz/mnth.anom.xz.temp.0n.2014.01.gif
This fairly large red spot normally flows under the Pacific surface to the east and surfaces at the Galapagos Islands where it can lead to an El Nino if it is warm or a La Nina if it is cold.
But this currently warm water has to fight its way through the rest of the equatorial Pacific’s cold water in the eastern half in order to still be warmer than average when it makes its way to the Galapagos.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/GODAS/mnth_gif/xy/mnth.anom.xy.h300.2014.01.gif
This is “exactly” the same set-up for the previous two years. In those two years, an El Nino looked very likely, started to develop, but came to a sputtering end. Because all the cool water in the east, returned the undercurrent to normal temperatures.
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/GODAS/mnth_gif/xz/mnth.anom.xz.temp.0n.2012.01.gif
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/GODAS/mnth_gif/xy/mnth.anom.xy.h300.2012.01.gif
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/GODAS/mnth_gif/xz/mnth.anom.xz.temp.0n.2013.01.gif
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/GODAS/mnth_gif/xy/mnth.anom.xy.h300.2013.01.gif
Same set-up, likely to be the same result. In essence, it is why a cold PDO leads to more La Ninas and fewer El Ninos.
Lots of other factors to consider. Trade Winds, SOI, OLR/cloud patterns at the International Dateline, the Peru-Humbolt current SSTs, Atmospheric Angular Momentum, equatorial surface currents – all of which are not pointing to an El Nino.
German scientists believe that there is a 75% chance of an El Nino. They state that 2014 could be the hottest on record.
I’ve read the PDO effects or drives the AMO. I’ve also read in some blogs that the AMO may be going negative….and at an earlier time than predicted. Does this help drive Nino or Nina?
It appears to me that El Niño and La Niña are only weather related events. As Bob says, ther were more El Niño events durning the warming. I don’t think these are climatic variables, but rather are riding the wave of another pattern..perhaps the PDO.
El Nino or La Nina over the long term in the area of concern give us droughts and floods, temps up and temps down. These are also emergent stuff like Willis talks about, only longer term.
The sun also has it’s emergent stuff, and it is not looking pretty for global warming in the northern hemisphere. Regardless of what the pundits tell us the sun had a big slumber during the L.I.A. and seems to be heading for a holiday now.
This would tend to indicate that the sun has a profound effect on our climate, that we do not know why our how is our problem to deal with. ENSO , PDO, AMO all emergent stuff only longer term than Willis’s thunderstorms in the tropics.