U.N. Delegate: a cold summer proves global warming

CFACT was at the Bonn climate conference (which collapsed by the way) interviewed a number of ahem, shall we say, “interesting” people.

They write:

At the UN Climate Conference in Bonn, Germany, we came across a delegate who explained that the unusual cold weather accompanying the conference (yes, the “Gore Effect” was out in force!) was a perfect example of how global warming is affecting our lives!

You have to watch it to believe it:

h/t to Richard Tol

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95 thoughts on “U.N. Delegate: a cold summer proves global warming

  1. This reminds me of phishing emails that have such poor grammar that it would take someone extremely gullible to fall for it. So it is with this kind of statement, like it’s getting hotter because it’s colder.

  2. This daft bint gets to go on all expenses paid holiday half-way around the world to spout this crapulence? A taxpayer somewhere is freezing to death because of her vested ignorance. Maybe not this season., maybe not next season … Maybe more than one (the holiday and the frozen corpse).

  3. There you have it… its called RELIGION,
    a belief system that blatently flies in the face of facts and fails to comprehend the meaning of the often repeated mantra.
    In fact so repeated that the `light bulb` moment never happens due to the form of indoctrination Try replacing with “to make rain we must dance”

    regards

  4. also, this delegate is SO attuned to the earth’s climate that she doesn’t seem to be aware that the German summer is generally somewhat cooler than summer in the Cook Islands.
    ‘It’s supposed to be hot outside right now, but its not. So it’s proof that the weather’s gone haywire!’

    GAK!

  5. My sister is a chemical engineer in the UK. She actually told me that the UK was so cold because of the arctic ice melt. That is the official explanation. The declining ice in the Arctic has pushed the gulf stream south. I told her that it must have really cold in the 20’s and 30’s in Britain because there was less Arctic ice then than now. No Answer.

  6. Can we set up a market that offsets ‘stupid emissions’? I feel that Bonn may have been a hotspot with that much dumb in one place.

  7. Why can’t they choose delegates with brains? Oh…wait, of course! – they actually WANT morons to preach too!

  8. John says: June 13, 2013 at 12:52 pm: “This reminds me of phishing emails that have such poor grammar that it would take someone extremely gullible to fall for it. “

    Bruce Schneier discussed a paper that suggested Nigerian scams are deliberately stupid in order to filter out anyone with a brain, so the scammers can concentrate on the gullible.

    http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2012/06/far-fetched_sca.html

    I think we’re seeing the same thing here.

    (Either that, or AGW is actually the GUT of everything. Probably the Higgs boson was only discovered recently because global warming causes more of those, too.)

  9. The true problem that exists is that the alarmist wingnuts are WINNING! If everyone studied the observations, they would know that warming has ceased and it is not the 11th hour. They don’t want reality, they want their ideology. The main stream media refuses to report reality, so the low information voters support the wingnut candidates like Obama so he can save the world. Did anyone notice Obama just raised the price on carbon? Being right about the state of climate science is not enough, at some point true champions that are in the positions to effect change must step up. Otherwise, we all will just remain frustrated with a warped sense of “being right”. Even though it seems that more and more data proves AGW theory to be bad science, where’s the news stories to support that? This will continue to be a long, hard battle for years to come. Too much momentum to overcome anytime soon.

  10. Yeah, why look at bunch of thermometers around the world when we can look at summer temps in tiny Germany to see if the Earth is warming.

  11. I was sure she would come to her senses under the repeated questioning by the interviewer but she was totally unfazed. I guess the senses were not involved at any time. Unbelievable!

  12. If a cold summer proves global warming would the corallary be that a hot temps prove global cooling???

    Boy could we use some of those empty promises of global warming up here in Michigan….

  13. Re: the video

    Not sure what would be worse, 1) that she believed her words, or 2) that they were spoken to raise funds.
    I can understand point 2.
    She did do a pretty good job considering the video camera.

  14. JackT says:
    June 13, 2013 at 1:36 pm
    “The true problem that exists is that the alarmist wingnuts are WINNING! If everyone studied the observations, they would know that warming has ceased and it is not the 11th hour. They don’t want reality, they want their ideology.”

    They are winning because they are the state. That’s the criminal enterprise that makes the rules and has the guns to enforce them. Doesn’t have much of a brain but that’s not required.

  15. That is the face of a true climate change refugee. This is what the IPCC has created – a dependent class of world citizens beseeching handouts from the new magistrates of wealth distribution, the UN. Amazing, isn’t it, what the promise of a free trickle of coins can do to a population. The metric of success is to turn the entire population of the Cook Islands into believers like this pilgrim – cargo cult, no longer limited to Melanesia, is alive and well in the South Pacific, evidenced by the ritualistic gesture of the upturned palm.

  16. Michael of Brisbane says:
    June 13, 2013 at 1:21 pm
    “also, this delegate is SO attuned to the earth’s climate that she doesn’t seem to be aware that the German summer is generally somewhat cooler than summer in the Cook Islands.
    ‘It’s supposed to be hot outside right now, but its not. So it’s proof that the weather’s gone haywire!’”

    Well actually the Bonn area should have 30 deg C and more at this time of year but has much less now, simply because it is much more cloudy than in a normal year. (I’m a hundred km from there so I know)

    It turns out that it’s cooler when there are clouds. I blame it on a working Svensmark mechanism as we have the weakest solar maximum ever since beginning of the 20th century. It is surely not caused by CO2, as the CO2-rich years up to about 2010 were pretty warm and sunny.

  17. Reblogged this on Public Secrets and commented:
    The desperation of the global warming cultists is evident in their pretzel logic and spawned by the Earth’s refusal to play along with their glorious computer models. Amusing and pathetic at the same time. Video at the link.

  18. It is getting colder so it must be global warming causing it.This is a monty python skit please tell me it is.Surely nobody can be that dumb.

  19. Stupid zombie. Her demeanour indicates to me that on some level she doesn’t even believe it herself.

  20. It’s unbelievable how such morons can aquire positions as UN delegates.
    This is a real scandal!

    Aren’t there at least some simple IQ tests previously?

  21. What do you expect.. Look at her eyes darting around looking for help.. Look at their body language.. Reeks of dishonesty..

    Lets promise billions forever (climate justice) to purchase third world support..

    Absolutely brutal (face palm)..

  22. Eve says:
    June 13, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    My sister is a chemical engineer in the UK. She actually told me that the UK was so cold because of the arctic ice melt. That is the official explanation. The declining ice in the Arctic has pushed the gulf stream south. I told her that it must have really cold in the 20′s and 30′s in Britain because there was less Arctic ice then than now. No Answer.

    Eve, next time we have a really hot summer (which we’re bound to, sooner or later) you should ask her if this is a sign of growing Arctic ice and global cooling. But don’t hold your breath waiting for an answer.

  23. During the second half of last century, when it was getting warm, it was global warming. Before, when it was getting colder, it was global cooling. Now, when it is not warming and just slightly cooling, it is global warming too.
    Global warming wins!

  24. Has nobody heard of the video conference, or what?
    Why travel to exotic locals, when the intertubes can do all the heavy lifting.
    Is it for the PR ?, green screens ?
    I’m not sure, but massive consumption of free food and drink, has not to my knowledge, ever solved any problems (for me), but then again, any excuse for an (expenses paid) party.
    Till the money runs out.

  25. I can see where this is going. They will just pause, dip and tango into the cooling armageddon and the likes of Ehrlich will be back where he started with CAGF (freezing). A good thing these guys usually only live one climate cycle.

  26. NikFromNYC says:

    June 13, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    Cook Islands coconut bikinis have cheered me up today:
    =======================
    I’ve been told, I am descended from Captain Cook, his bloody demise upon the beaches of Hawaii
    are well known.
    My mothers maiden name confirms the Cook part, the rest…..

  27. This reminds me of phishing emails that have such poor grammar that it would take someone extremely gullible to fall for it. So it is with this kind of statement, like it’s getting hotter because it’s colder.

    I had someone argue with me for four years that the reason for more ice in Antarctica was because the water was getting warmer. You simply cannot win against that type of illogic. You have to defeat them entirely.

  28. AGW has always been a means to an end. It was never about saving the planet from overheating. The politicians that pay for research to support AGW, the scientists that make their living from the grants, and the despotic leaders of the third world, don’t care if AGW is real or not. They will stubbornly refuse to consider that it might be overblown, and they will never consider the idea of doing nothing about it.
    AGW provides justification for numerous taxes, restrictions, construction contracts, tax rebates, electric and fuel rebates, redistribution of the wealth of the richest countries, and in general an endless stream of revenue to be doled out to those constituencies, organizations, and countries favored by the party in power. Money is power and this kind of potential cash cow is the ultimate power. Some of the delegates to the various taxpayers funded warmfests know the science doesn’t support their cause, but don’t care. The rest are clueless about the science but know they stand to reap great rewards if only they can continue to persuade the world’s most powerful liberals of their sincerity. To the clueless true believers, belief in AGW takes on the characteristics of religion. They will all keep spouting the party line as long as someone listens and might never openly admit they are wrong.

  29. Half the populace is dumber than average.

    It is scandal enough that they are discriminated against in hard sciences. Even if their share is getting better as time goes by, it is still a far cry from equality.

    Therefore, it is only fair the mentally challenged should be overrepresented in politics.

  30. When it warms, it warms; when it cools, it warms; when it stays the same, it warms. So, the Earth must be millions of degrees now with all of this warming going on!

  31. Cook Islands tourist brochure stated :”Send more tourists-last lot were delicious” Great fun-loving people . Can’t say how big their problem with inundation is.

  32. I suspect that this person is too young to have been around when ‘global warming’ was the meme d’jour and has been indoctrinated since the terminology being pushed is ‘climate change’.

    Therefore, anything she deems ‘unusual’ is proof of ‘climate change’ and she is lost for rational argument when asked about global warming.

    It seems to have been a good move on the warmistas part to morph their arguments to ‘climate change’ as it is all-encompassing.

  33. That was a video of a true AlGorian. What is she going to say when an ice sheet starts forming over Europe again? I wonder how the sea level rise is going in Cook Islands.

  34. But Germany also had a brutally cold winter. Is that also a sign of global warming? LOL.

    Expect warmer winters in the NH. Haaaaa haaaa.

    http://notrickszone.com/2013/04/04/climate-science-humiliated-earlier-model-prognoses-of-warmer-winters-now-todays-laughingstocks/

    They also said to expect drought for Eastern Germany which has recently suffered from terrible floods. Australia? Same damn thing. I can’t be bothered with references for these idiots make my fingers ache.

  35. For the low down on global warming with a German perspective see

    http://notrickszone.com/

    Pierre the blogger is ruthless with these charlatans.
    …………………….
    Someone mentioned that CAGW is a religion. I don’t know but I know others who think so. Enjoy.

    Guardian – 25 August 2010
    “Why would a solar physicist embrace the non-rationality of religion?”

    John Cook, who runs skepticalscience.com, says his faith drives him. But what does religion give him that science doesn’t?……But Cook’s second, self-professed, stimulus took me by surprise.

    I’m a Christian and find myself strongly challenged by passages in the Bible like Amos 5 and Matthew 25″, he wrote. “… I care about the same things that the God I believe in cares about – the plight of the poor and vulnerable.””

    —-

    John Cook – Skeptical Science – 3 August 2010
    “….my faith and my situation are my own. But hopefully for those curious, you understand more clearly the driving force behind Skeptical Science.”

    —-

    Guardian – 3 November 2009
    Judge rules activist’s beliefs on climate change akin to religion

    “Tim Nicholson entitled to protection for his beliefs, and his claim over dismissal will now be heard by a tribunal…….In his written judgment, Mr Justice Burton outlined five tests to determine whether a philosophical belief could come under employment regulations on religious discrimination…..• It must be a belief and not an opinion or view based on the present state of information available…..”

    —–

    BBC – 25 January 2010
    Using religious language to fight global warming

    “If the case for tackling climate change is backed by science, why do so many green campaigners rely on the language of religion?“……The theologian and environmentalist Martin Palmer is also troubled by the green movement’s reliance on visions of hell as a way of converting people to their cause…..”Now they are playing with some of the most powerful emotional triggers in Western culture. They’ve adopted the language and imagery of a millenarian cult.”

    For Palmer, who is a United Nations adviser on climate change and religion,….”

    —-

    Church of England – 22 February 2012
    “Leaders representing most of the UK’s mainstream churches have today called for repentance over the prevailing ‘shrug-culture’ towards climate change.”

  36. Doublethink: the act of simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct.

  37. I have said it before and I’ll say it again. Even if we entered another Little Ice Age these NUTTERS would insists that it’s a sign of global warming or climate change caused by man. We are not in a scientific argument but a religious argument in which we cannot be allowed to win. Even if we are right it does not matter. Follow the faith.

  38. It’s so convienent for these folks.

    If temps go up — it proves AGW
    If temps go down — it proves AGW
    if temps stay the same — it proves AGW

  39. Let’s not blame this poor lady, she is a product of billions of dollars spent on propaganda. It has to produce some results? No? There are many like her in a location near you. She will probably be pointed to this WUWT post and read the comments. If she is smart she will realise that she has been duped. If not then the propaganda has won her mind. What can we do about this?

  40. Neil says:
    June 13, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    Doublethink: the act of simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct.

    “Ah, like “fake, but accurate”?

  41. Here are some more of their religious claims. Up is down, down is up, hotcold is coldhot, weather is now the climate and climate was always the weather. What a load of horse sh!t.

  42. CAGW believers are not stupid. Their belief brings them more benefit (financial and/or egotistical and/or spiritual and/or social, etc.) than non-belief.

  43. VAC – UUM between the ears … probably with no ability to discern or digest material of a technical / numerical / scientific nature.

    What a waste as a delegate!

    .

  44. She lost the plot when asked the same question twice! The first time through she had their talking points “climate CHANGE” and “extreme weather” that would play well in the warmista world but then got confused and reverted to “global WARMING”. You see they have been brainwashed so thoroughly with the “global warming” line that it is hard even for them to change to “climate change”.

    PS. I used to reply to the Nigerian emails for fun: “But General Mobutu has promised me double what you are offering so what can you do for me to sweeten the offer?”.

  45. Why did the chicken cross the road?
    To avoid global warming.

    Why did the duck cross the road?
    To avoid the climate quacks.

  46. Let’s see, IF we have a very warm summer, it’s proof of global warming, but if we have a very cold summer, it’s proof of global warming. Pity he didn’t ask, “What condition is NOT proof of global warming?” ;-))

  47. Carl “Bear” Bussjaeger says:

    June 13, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    Do a little reading hear and you’ll see the Nigerian scammers really are not so smart, matter of fact this is recommended reading for all who want a laugh. These guys spend their free time baiting scammers:

    http://www.419eater.com/

  48. TRM — thanks for sharing that hilarious ad. LOL. BTW, did any of the Nigerian cons make a counteroffer? Heh, heh

    Unite Against Greenfleece — love the name! And the cute poem. LOL.

    Bob Diaz — Great question! I, too, thought the interviewer was a but unprepared — should have pursued her with questions until she was forced into:
    A. mumbling, “…uh…. uh… uh…..” or
    B. throwing a fit and flouncing out.

    Yeah, her stupidity was exposed, but, liars shouldn’t be let off that easy, IMO. Oh, yes, even if she wasn’t sure whether or not she was lying, she knew VERY WELL that she had no idea whether or not what she was saying was really true. Thus, she was RECKLESSLY asserting those lines of nonsense and, thus, she INTENDED to incur a known risk of deceiving.

    Darrin — great link. I only read a little bit, but it sounds like fun AND a genuinely good way to try to catch some of those guys, or, at least, block them for awhile… . I think I’ll just ignore them, though. Not a game for one with my low-level computer skills/knowledge, I think.

  49. Someone solicits you to play a game of chance and the rules are: “Heads I win; tails you lose.” How long should it take you to figure out the game is rigged? (Apparently, some people never figure it out.)

  50. LOL, Mr. Ed Jones, (smile): “That poor little gal is as dumb as a POST, but, bless her heart, she tried.”

  51. Bill Maher makes jokes about sceptics referring to “global warming” as a religion. This video was as clear a demonstration as one will ever get of the religion of global warming. Without argument It “explains” everything. It is probably the strongest religion in the western world at the moment.

  52. arthur4563 says:
    June 13, 2013 at 1:37 pm
    Yeah, why look at bunch of thermometers around the world when we can look at summer temps in tiny Germany to see if the Earth is warming.
    ++++++++++
    Come out with it Arthur4563: Which thermeters around the world suggest that the Earth is warming? Pray tell…

  53. I loved the coconut bikinis as well. I had a quick look at the Edgewater Resort, shown in the poster behind them, this is their web address: http://www.edgewater.co.ck

    “The Edgewater Resort & Spa is the best-known Cook Islands resort, offering affordable luxury on the sheltered west coast of Rarotonga. The Edgewater’s prime location puts Rarotonga’s natural splendour front and centre; the magnificent sunsets, the surrounding lush green mountains and the view over the white sandy beach and deep blue lagoon.Yet it’s not just the backdrop that makes The Edgewater Resort & Spa the best accommodation Rarotonga has to offer. What sets this premier Rarotonga resort apart is what Edgewater brings to this stunning island location: great dining, first-class entertainment, a dedicated kids’ club, health spa and sparkling pool. As the largest Rarotongan resort, Edgewater has more space, more activities and more to offer than any other Cook Islands holiday.”

    It doesn’t say anything about sinking beneath the waves……

  54. Regarding the hype about cool weather being due to warming causing less ice in the arctic: There is more ice up there right now than in recent years. However I’ve noted a weak area right near the pole. If we are in a sixty year cycle, there may be patches of open water right up at the pole, as there were roughly sixty years ago when we got those pictures of submarines surfacing at the pole. And if there are open areas at the pole this summer, the total area of ice will not matter. There will simply be hype, hype, hype. So….strap on your helmets and prepare to counter, counter, counter.

  55. In the fictitious public paranoia works file with the others. The hype has a neighbor of mine reacting to the fact that he didn’t get hail during a thunderstorm (that didn’t produce a unusual rain winds) while a neighboring community did get hail is proof that the weather is unpredictable and threatening because of climate change. Then they get mad when you point out that it’s normal for one town to get hit by a thunderstorm and another not. I’m a denialist because I won’t confirm his fear. From the global UN to my local neighbor, it’s all the same.

  56. I understand the below sign was posted at the entrance of the UN Climate Change Conference in Bonn:

    Before me things create were none, save things
    Eternal, and eternal I endure.
    All hope abandon ye who enter here.

  57. petermue says:
    June 13, 2013 at 2:28 pm
    “It’s unbelievable how such morons can aquire positions as UN delegates.”

    It looks like you had a high opinion of the UN.

    Why?

  58. I impatiently await the warming of the globe so that we all can enjoy the quality of Cook Island dancers at all Latitudes and Atitudes.

  59. @ NikFromNYC says: etc. etc.

    Heck. Them Cook Island ladies can believe whatever they want. Let’s have another dance!

  60. Yes – her comments illustrate unquestioning indoctrination surpassing George Orwell’s literary speculations.

    She DID managed to regurgitate the AGW pablum, without the use of a teleprompter though….. unlike our TOTUS.

  61. Anthony,

    What impeccable timing.
    I am e-mailing this video to my daughters reiterating for the umpteenth time how lucky they are to be blessed with outstanding genetics, a conservative, logical upbringing, college degrees in science, and Father’s Day.

    Thank You!

  62. NikFromNYC says:
    June 13, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    HA!
    Thanks for that, Nik! Cheered me up also!
    MtK

  63. Mike from the Carson Valley where we know about cold says:
    June 14, 2013 at 10:41 am

    I impatiently await the warming of the globe so that we all can enjoy the quality of Cook Island dancers at all Latitudes and Atitudes.
    ———————————————-
    I agree. I like coconuts myself.

  64. Not so uneducated in the Cook Islands!

    http://www.cook-islands.gov.ck/view_release.php?release_id=1304

    They probably learn this attitude in New Zealand at New Zealand Universities. The New Zealand government has close ties with the Pacific Nations which involve grants etc for global warming and sea level rise research , I think. They don’t mention coral so much now ,though:-)
    BTW The anti religion comments on this blog have the ring of the neo-marxist philosophy which is behind the Green philosophy. so maybe you shouldn’t go that way or you will get in a knot :-)
    The Green’s is a political philosophy which I sum up as “Science in the service of the State ” not science for the pursuit of knowledge. But I stand to be corrected.

    In New Zealand where the news media are confirmed “Climate Change ” philosophy believers.
    I hope it is not censored.

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