Note to Dr. Michael Mann: sarcasm only works when your don’t become the butt of the joke. Seen on Mann’s Twitter feed today with ALL CAPS for loud effect.
As the old joke goes…”now he are one”.
Even more hilarious, the peanut gallery of his Twitter feed seems to think that somehow predicting storm tracks and forecasting hurricane storm surge (as has been done long before these guys ever came on scene) is somehow something Senator James Inhofe is against and because NHC got it right, that Inhofe gets a “poke in the eye”.
It’s like some alien world of self delusion over there.
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Listen to all those who are saying Sandy proves climate change iks me no end. It’s almost like they don’t understand the difference between weather and climate either. Now to try and equate the tracking of a single storm in the here and now to plotting climate decades and even centuries into the future…. The mind boggles.
Arguing with the strawman.
It only shows how incredibly biased he is. He has forgotten the art of skepticism.
I would have liked to have known about this hurricane last year. Where were the METEOROLOGICAL MAGIC WIZARDS then?
WELL? I DEMAND AN ANSWER. MY BASEMENT IS FULL OF WATER!!
This is becoming online bullying – stick to attacking bad science.
Doesn’t Mann routinely dismiss “Meteorologists” and mere “Weathermen” as not sholarly enough to understand his groundbreaking work? Nate Silver? So I guess pollsters are good enough at climate science to warrant Not Quite a Nobel Winner Mann a retweet?
Unbelievable. Do these guys actually understand ANYTHING? (It doesn’t look like they do, but that doesn’t seem to stop them from offering their opinions anyway.)
Nate Silver is still projecting an Obama win in the presidential election. If this is a representative example of how poorly informed and superficial his knowledge actually is, we’ll probably be saying hello to President-elect Romney on the morning of November 7.
Weather prediction works because meteorologists rely on the assumption that in the future, systems will behave the same as as observed in the past.
Climate scientists (at least those of the alarmist variety) rely on the assumption that in the future, systems will behave in ways never observed in the past. (Tipping points, runaway warming, etc.)
This blog is becoming the worlds most widely read climate tabloid. These endless ad hom posts agains Mann, Gore, and others, and Willis’ I told you so post are not science or entertainment. I hope it blows over because this is one of my favorite reading spots.
Flame suit is on, fire when ready, Gridley.
Michael Mann shows he has no grasp on the definition of chaos and what it entails; and why there’s a difference between weather models and climate models.
So a self proclaimed psuedo Nobel Laureate is poking fun at Meteorologists for accurately predicting the location and extent of the storm, including storm surge levels?? If meteorlogocal models are funny when they work, what are climate models that can’t even accurately backcast much less forecast temperatures. The joke appears to be on the good doctor.
Hummm,
Michael Mann must think he’s a shooting star! Too bad he shot himself in the foot…
Mike
Along the margins of this topic is SciAm’s leap onto the bandwagon, quoting Hansen and Trenberth.
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2012/10/30/did-climate-change-cause-hurricane-sandy/
Blecch…..are they really that exploitive? ‘Fraid so.
Telling case in point:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_M._Gray
The pioneer of modern hurricane forecasting is an arch-skeptic of AGW, let alone CAGW, & certainly of the effect of increase in CO2 molecules per 10,000 dry air molecules from three to four. Apparently the Mann-made global warming peanut gallery is as ignorant of earth science history as of scientific theory & practice.
dp,
If Mann would man up and engage in a series of debates, arguing his position in a neutral venue, with a mutually agreed moderator and rules, he would escape most of the attacks. Instead, like all climate alarmists he hides out and issues tweets and facebook comments calling all those who disagree with him “the rabble”.
He deserves what he gets.
Actually, Dave Toleris called it almost exactly on the money. It came ashore a little north of his forecast.
But then I have seen his magic eight ball. 😉
More posts on why sandy was not fueled by AGW would be better than this nonsense Anthony.
Even the Mayor, or Governor or someone of NYC just tweeted that climate is changing, we need scientific debate to counter such stuff, not ad homs.
Seems like Non-Laureate Mann can dish it out but not take it, how like a Warmist…
Nate Silver is a Bad Joke.
dp, I agree… however, things should hopefully be back to normal political levels after next Tuesday.
dp, I can’t believe that some readers of WUWT don’t get that Science is Politics. Read Anthony’s tagline sometime… The study of Nature, anyone can do. The profession of the study of Nature is all politics, all the time….
Re, the post, Andrew Weaver is one of the other clowns in the horse costume – he and Michael change ends from time to time.
The bad thing is, he is getting paid by PSU while he’s tweeting inanities. I tweet at work sometimes, but I sure as heck don’t get paid for it. Bastard.
You are all missing the point, what Mann is saying is that he is in awe of people who use maths and science.
Uh oh: I caught only a snippet, but I believe I heard NY Gov. Cuomo say that “we” will have to learn how to deal with this kind of weather pattern from now on. So they’re already starting to blame AGW for Sandy.
What climate consensus follower made me realize:
As the NY West Side Highway was under water, finally Jim Hansen’s prediction turned out to be right!
Because that’s what Jim Hansen meant when he said: ““The West Side Highway will be under water. And there will be tape across the windows across the street because of high winds.” He never predicted this to be a permanent occurrence! He just needed one bigger storm to be proven right!
We have done a major injustice to poor Jim. Let’s give the man a Nobel in physics, and one for peace while we are at it.