Al Gore denied film footage rights by an Australian filmmaker

[Note: I have the video footage denied to Al Gore available for viewing below, after seeing it, I can understand why Gore wanted it, and why the filmmaker denied him the right to use it. - Anthony]

Old Ranga from Oz writes:

Hi Anthony,

My countrymen have given Big Al the finger.   I’m proud of them.

Al Gore denied firestorm footage | The Australian

A WEATHER expert has backed the stance of an Alice Springs filmmaker who refused to sell footage of a firestorm to former US vice-president Al Gore — to use in Mr Gore’s climate presentations — because the event was unrelated to climate change.

In an email exchange with Mr Gore’s office, Tangey said using the footage in a climate-change framework would be ‘deliberately deceptive

“I am aware that you may have missed the reporting on the very localised nature of this firestorm,” Tangey wrote. “However, in any case, I am confused as to why you would offer to buy a licence to use it at all unless you had conducted even elementary research which might indicate that this Mt Conner event had direct linkage to global warming/climate change.”
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I guess too many people have figured out Gore lied, and lied big with visuals in An Inconvenient Truth.

Good for Mr. Tangey.  Here’s the video Gore wanted from him:

From the YouTube description:

THERE’S something mean and magical about Australia’s Outback. An Alice Springs filmmaker captured both when a whirlwind of fire erupted before his eyes.
Chris Tangey of Alice Springs Film and Television was scouting locations near Curtin Springs station, about 80km from Ularu, last week when confronted by a fiery phenomenon.

He had just finished his tour of the station when workers encountered difficulties with a grader. So he went to help them.

A small fire was burning in nearby bushland, so Mr Tangey decided to start filming.
He caught the sight of his life.

A twister touched down on the spot fire, fanning it into a furious tower of flame.
“It sounded like a jet fighter going by, yet there wasn’t a breath of wind where we were,” he told the Northern Territory News.

“You would have paid $1000 a head if you knew it was about to happen.”
The column of fire danced about the landscape for about 40 minutes, he said, as he and the station workers stood transfixed.

There was talk of making a quick getaway, Mr Tangey said. But everyone was too hypnotised to feel scared – and he continued furiously filming.

“The bizarre thing was that it rarely moved,” he said.

“These things just stood there because there was no wind to move them … but it was flickering incredibly fast.”

Darwin weather forecaster David Matthews said small twisters were common in isolated areas. But the fiery vortex was highly unusual.

“The flames would have assisted by trying to suck in air and that could have helped generate those circular winds,” Mr Matthews said.

 

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52 thoughts on “Al Gore denied film footage rights by an Australian filmmaker

  1. It pains me both knowing exactly what Gore would have done with this and knowing that some credulous people would have taken it as further “proof” in their belief in “climate chaos”, or whatever its called this week….

  2. Wait a minute. Someone refused actual money because of, how you say, princeepal?? No way. Their must be some deep game being played here….

  3. “err… Gore can use the footage under the Youtube license, without even asking the guy :)”

    – Shhhh!!!
    “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake”
    (attributed to Napoleon)

  4. “Wait a minute. Someone refused actual money because of, how you say, princeepal?? No way. Their must be some deep game being played here….”

    – Part of the eeeevil massive oil funded deniar conspirassy for sure. Or something.
    (n.b. spelling mistakes fully intentional….)

  5. Something like this…

    “…Man Made Global Warming causes the very air to catch on fire…”

    “…Fire Tornadoes caused by Human CO2 emissions devastate endangered wildlife…Rare Bilby goes up in smoke”

    “…Global Carbon Doom written in fiery letters in the sky…” (Al did go to divinity school for awhile…)

    “…Man Made Global Warming strikes fire down under…” (has several possible meanings…especially for Big Al)

    “…Man Made Global Warming ignites drowning Polar Bears…” (Requires some photo shopping first…)

    “…Pillars of Fire – an Omen of Imminent Doom…”

    One could go on all night.

  6. Proof of Global Warming? I thought it was proof of the biblical Pillar of Fire. The real thing was way better than the lame special effects in “The Ten Commandments”. Did anyone check around for some stone tablets, or an Ark, or something?

  7. Given that it’s Al Gore, he might just steal the footage. He did it with his movie. Compare Inconvenient Truth and Day After Tomorrow. Let me get the video.

    And Matt, he can’t really, because I doubt the youtube license allows him to make profit off it. But then again, as proven by above’s example, Al Gore doesn’t care about such trivial things. He only cares about making profit off his lies.

  8. Gore likes to be dramatic.. Sometimes he uses anything. Truth is however mundane. Anyway, I overcooked my sausages this morning. Thats a sign of global warming to go in Gore’s presentation. Actually its a sign of my own negligence

  9. When Gore shows the youtube footage, the extra spin he’ll put on it will keep it going forever.

  10. Why not give the fool his rope and let him hang himself, because if he tries to claim this is what global warming looks like, he will be an even bigger laughing stock than he already is.

  11. good for Tangey, but we have our own Gores working overtime as usual:

    3 Oct: SMH: Peter Hannam: Dry zone expansion hits Australia’s autumn rains
    The world’s subtropical dry zones are shifting towards the poles, resulting in sharp rainfall declines during April and May in regions such as southern Australia, according to a study by CSIRO scientists.
    While previous research had established a southward shift in southern hemisphere weather systems during the late 20th century, the new analysis by Wenju Cai, Tim Cowan and Marcus Thatcher, clarifies the extent of the resulting rainfall reduction. The study was published by Nature’s Scientific Reports…
    The effects of the shift were greater for Australia than southern Africa and South America, the two other major landforms studied…
    If anything, the models are underestimating the shift going on, particularly in mid to late autumn, Dr Cai said.
    “We are now seeing in the majority of models in the future showing a dry zone expansion poleward,” he said. “Unfortunately, for reasons we don’t understand, in April and May climate models produce a polar expansion about a factor of 10 too small [compared with observations].”
    The polar shift in weather systems appears to be caused by a combination of increased carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, and ozone depletion, Dr Cai said…

    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/dry-zone-expansion-hits-australias-autumn-rains-20121003-26zkt.html

    2 Oct: ABC Lateline: Warning bell for Barrier Reef
    Environment minister Tony Burke says the Australian Institute of Marine Science report on the Barrier Reef, which predicts that as little as 6 per cent of the coral could remain by 2020, would send ***shockwaves through the community and sound a loud and clear warning bell about the future of the reef.
    TRANSCRIPT…

    http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3602458.htm

    ***”SHOCKWAVES”? YAWNS MORE LIKELY.

  12. I saw that film before, and it is AWESOME. The mysteries and magic of the planet is revealed with random events such as this. I am glad they did not allow it to be bastardized by the liars.

  13. Fire twisters may be rare in the Outback, but they are very common every year at the Burning Man Celebration in the Nevada Desert. This is my favorite video from this year’s burn. The tornadoes start about 10 minutes in. Pretty amazing!

    Don’t tell Al!

  14. The push to convince the public that the world is about to catch fire does not come from science, but comes from politics. That is why we see scientists and activists acting like politicians, and politicians acting like, well, really bad politicians. There is no science there to warrant handing over control of the means of production to a super elite of our intellectual and moral superiors. So they doctor the’evidence’. All the time and without shame. This site is an archive of their malfeasance.

  15. Just a dust devil that coincides with a brush fire, stronger but nothing more. The same thing is common with forest fires.

    Al Gore is a really evil man. No doubt about it. Super good for Mr. Tangey and could you raise your other middle finger to Al Gore for us, he deserve two of them.

  16. Al Gore is a politician who found a green bandwagon and rode it because he had nothing else to offer. His movie would have made Leni Riefenstahl proud, which is why it won an Oscar. A UK court ruled it was political with nine major errors. Gore misinterpreted what the judge said, but he is a politician. What is more disturbing in society that must have trust is how his fellow Nobel Prize winners at the IPCC supported the movie and failed to publicly distance themselves from his errors. Their attitude appears to be that the end justifies the means as I explained here;

    http://drtimball.com/2012/al-gore-and-ipcc-nobel-peace-prize-winners-found-guilty-before-and-after-award/

  17. By posting it here, Mr Gore has cause to use the video himself. Only by protecting a copyright or trademark are you allowed to keep it.

  18. Let’s hope he doesn’t find this image of Las Vegas:

    I posted that saying “Global Warming causing Vegas to melt”, as a joke – and people believed it!

  19. MikeN says:
    By posting it here, Mr Gore has cause to use the video himself. Only by protecting a copyright or trademark are you allowed to keep it.

    Trademarks must be protected. Copyright can be given or withheld by the owner as desired. If the owner of the video wants to let Anthony use it and deny Gore, he can, without any concern about ‘keeping’ his copyright.

  20. The mendacity, hypocrisy, effrontery, sociopathy and venality of the Al Gores of this world know no bounds. I say to them, Where do you get off thinking you have the right to confiscate the fruits of my labor (i.e., through excessive taxation) to use to pursue your perverse schemes? What makes you think you have the right to dictate every detail of my life? Am I supposed to walk instead of driving my car, just so you can fly hither and yon in a private Boeing 727?

    To Al Gore and the AGW freak community, I say: I am not your slave, and I am not a child you can order around. You have no right to take money from me, and you have no right to tell me how to live my life. Got that?

    There ought to be a special tax on elitists’ lies, equal to 200 percent of the money they make from telling them.

    A story which folks might find amusing, if not frightening, concerning government regulation: We at the federal Department of Personal Conduct have determined that improper tying of shoelaces presents a hazard, therefore we must regulate the tying of shoelaces. Improper tying of shoelaces shall be a violation subject to an administrative penalty of $5,000 per occurrence (each shoe counting as one occurrence).. You object? Sorry, but since this is an administrative penalty, not a criminal case, you have no right to due process. And since we’re civil servants you can’t vote against us or sue us for malfeasance. Ha ha!

    Not so far-fetched when you think about it.

  21. “””””…..Jim Clarke says:

    October 3, 2012 at 5:49 am

    Fire twisters may be rare in the Outback, but they are very common every year at the Burning Man Celebration in the Nevada Desert. ……..”””””

    Well Jim, no amount of cajoling could get me to watch and listen to ten minutes of that trashy apology for a film, on the off chance I would get to see a fire tornado.

    Talk about people being out of touch with reality. Looked about the same as the Saturday night KOFY “Dance Party” with the lights turned out. Little wonder that California has become a land of drug addicted losers. The day of my wife’s last day of teaching, will be the day of our exit from this fool’s “paradise.”

  22. @MikeN

    >By posting it here, Mr Gore has cause to use the video himself. Only by protecting a copyright or trademark are you allowed to keep it.

    I think this is a little misleading. Perhaps a misinterpretation. Copyright exits naturally with no effort though you can be more formal about it, citing the Bern Convention rights, for example. It differs slightly from country to country. Trademarks require active protection since they are a different category of property.

    We can happily watch the fires on YouTube. Al wanted ‘rights’ to it, probably not exclusive rights, to make money using the video. Different kettle, same fish. Clearly the film was not created with a view to making money for the likes of climate catastrophists. He could still license the rights to someone making a documentary on “Things that are not caused by global warming.”

  23. Gore digusts me. As s NZer it warms my heart to see an Aussie stand on principle, especially given the federal political climate in that country. I think there is hope for realism!

  24. In Gore’s version the video is set in Kansas and the fire is started by the Evil Carbon Witch of the West and her fossil fueled flying monkey’s.

  25. george e smith says:
    October 3, 2012 at 10:00 am

    George, just move the slider to the 10 minute position on the video and watch the fiery dust devils scatter the crowd with the 10 minute ‘trashy apology’.

    The Aussie video and the Burning Man video make you wonder whether low natural windspeeds and strong convection are all that is necessary for a dust devil to form.

  26. Matt says:
    October 3, 2012 at 3:38 am
    “err… Gore can use the footage under the Youtube license, without even asking the guy :)”

    But Big Al cannot edit the YouTube video. I am sure he was looking for the license in order to doctor it up, perhaps putting it upside down so the sky seems to be burning. Or just maybe he was going to reverse the rotation, kind of like his photo shopped hurricanes.

  27. Having had a few TV companies wave money at me ( often offensively small amounts of money, I’m looking at you CBS! ) for video footage I’ll see if i can clear up some confusion in the comments.

    Firstly the video as embedded here displayed on youtube has a standard youtube license. This gives youtube the right to play it and you the right to watch it. No more. The uploader retains all rights for their own work and copyright exists from the moment of creation.

    In order for the video to be useable by someone else with permission the rights would have to be changed to a creative commons license ( and even then restrictions regarding editing, attribution and commercial use still apply depending on which license is applied )

    The problem we have here for Mr Gore’s team is twofold, if not threefold. The work above is not the uploader’s work. It is a recording of a TV news show. The uploader has no rights to the work and 7 News could press a claim and submit a DMCA takedown notice ( this is rare for news clips but it happens, I’ve had it happen to me ).

    So Al Gore could not take it even with permission from the uploader under any license because the uploader holds no rights to pass on. Al would have to obtain the rights to that particular clip including audio from 7 News ( something to do with Yahoo! I think ) but as it is presented I doubt that the clip has any value.

    The only way the footage could be of any value to Gore is for him to obtain the original footage out of the camera with permission to edit and re-use in film or presentation and it appears this is what was attempted and denied.

  28. Good for you Mr Tangey ! Great to see there’s still a few people for whom integrity is more important than global warming money train.

  29. The Australian outback is well known for these mini-cylonic events, what we used to call ‘willy willys’ back when I were a lad living in Woomera. If there were a fire nearby, which would be the unusual bit given the sparseness of vegetation out there, the video shows what would occur.

    Of course, with the unusual amount of water that has flowed through the outback over the past few years due to floods in Qld and NSW, there would be a lot more vegetation around so the chances of fire and willy willys meeting is a bit higher.

  30. If you have ever burned a huge brush pile of pine and pine laps in the open after dragging it away from the barn you may have seen these similar “fire tornadoes”. Dried pine and laps as big as a small ranch house dried for about 3 months. . Man made — I made it. 30 to 50 feet high but originated from the edge of the brush pile. Several at a time. It is absolutely awesome.

  31. Jim Clarke says:
    October 3, 2012 at 5:49 am

    =====================

    thank you for the link. IT IS KICK ASS !!!

  32. Gore could have just asked CNN for a clip of the fire tornado in 2010 which happened in Hawaii. That really would have frightened the children.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/28/hawaii-fire-tornado-light_n_697382.html

    Here is a blast from the past.

    The Great Japan Earthquake of 1923
    …..The flames closed in from all directions, and then, at 4 p.m., a 300-foot-tall “fire tornado” blazed across the area. Of the 44,000 people who had gathered there, only 300 survived. All told, 45 percent of Tokyo burned before the last embers of the inferno died out on September 3…..

    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/The-Great-Japan-Earthquake-of-1923.html

  33. I hope that they got a lot more on tape. The tornado researchers should be ecstatic about new visual data.

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