The sun – still slumping

The latest solar cycle update graphs have been released by the NOAA SWPC today, and the anemic cycle 24 continues:

The current count isn’t keeping up with the prediction line in red. Not only is the sunspot count low, so is the 10.7cm radio flux and the Ap magnetic index:

One thing that is getting active though is the solar wind, the Boyle Index took a big jump just a couple of hours ago, values over 200 are rather rare:

From Rice University, click for more
As did the speed, note the step function:

ACE RTSW (Estimated) Magnetic Field & Solar Wind

NOAA – Space Weather Prediction Center – Click the pic to view at source

That jump is likely due to this coronal hole CH532, now directly facing Earth:

What I find most interesting (and troubling) though is this image today of the sun from SDO:

The contrast of the sunspots is really low. The Livingston and Penn plot continues its downward slide:

Leif Svalgaard – Click the pic to view at source.

More on the L&P research and the potential for sunspots disappearing soon here: “All three of these lines of research to point to the familiar sunspot cycle shutting down for a while.”

More data at the WUWT Solar reference page

 

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September 3, 2012 7:32 am

Is a Maunder Minimum on its way?
Interesting times.

NeedleFactory
September 3, 2012 7:35 am

What’s with the flat spots in the Boyle Index?

Carsten Arnholm (Norway)
September 3, 2012 7:40 am

“What I find most interesting (and troubling) though is this image today of the sun from SDO:”
“The contrast of the sunspots is really low.”
The contrast is low due to low quality image processing of the yellow colorized version. For a much better assessment of the sunspots use the non-colorized versions with higher resolution, referred to under the yellow image on the solar reference page.
Either http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/img/latest/latest_2048_HMII.jpg
or even http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/img/latest/latest_4096_HMII.jpg
The contrast is fine visually, but the umbras are getting smaller. The L&P effect is clearly real.

September 3, 2012 7:44 am

Nobel Prize winners, Al Gore and the UN’s IPCC, have assured us Earth’s climate depends on CO2, not on the Sun.

John F. Hultquist
September 3, 2012 7:54 am

I find the following in the linked-to post:
They also observed that spot temperatures have risen exactly as expected for such changes in the magnetic field.
Note: temperatures have risen
So,
What Earth sees is down.
What Earth feels is up.
The first of the above is interpreted by many to predict a cooling Earth.
This makes no sense.
What else is going on?

September 3, 2012 8:15 am

Thanks for the update, Anthony.
Solar intensity is still on the wane even as the current solar cycle (SC 24) heads toward its maximum next year. If David Archibald is correct, SC 25 could be even weaker. We may be headed for a long-term cool-down, which would impact agricultural production in the northern hemisphere grain belts.
We should be far more worried about a global cooling than global warming. As history shows, extended periods of cold have led to widspread famine and loss of life. A warming planet is a good thing.

RobW
September 3, 2012 8:15 am

Will we see Ice festivals on the Thames again? Only time (not computer models) will tell.

RobW
September 3, 2012 8:18 am

Seriously though. These results of solar observations make the case for more research into frost tolerant crops. There seems little doubt the weather/climate of my youth is about to return. I did enjoy the igloos/ snow forts we made and played in.

mizimi
September 3, 2012 8:24 am

“They also observed that SUNspot temperatures have risen exactly as expected for such changes in the magnetic field.”…..is what I think they are saying?

SanityP
September 3, 2012 8:29 am

For someone who isn’t very fluent in speaking and understanding “sunspots”, this is just another one of those swosh-moments. Can someone who do speak “sunspots”, give us minions an abbreviated “The Idiot’s Guide to sunspots”, please? What does it all mean ? Are we doomed ?

bobbie becker
September 3, 2012 8:29 am

whats it all mean to the average Joe/Jane?

September 3, 2012 8:45 am

Reblogged this on The Next Grand Minimum and commented:
Please read the whole article, down the page is an update to the Penn and Livingston projection of when the sunspots disappear.

tallbloke
September 3, 2012 8:54 am

Informative post. Thanks Anthony.
I think the slump in spot numbers will continue.

September 3, 2012 9:06 am

Thanks, Anthony. Good post.
These are bad news. While nature is getting cooler we getting poorer to avoid warming that is not happening.

September 3, 2012 9:06 am

@SanityP – A Sunspot is a magnetic storm on the sun. By themselves, sunspots don’t necessarily mean anything, but many believe that the sunspot number is related to Earth temperature. More sunspots = Warmer Earth, Less sunspots = Cooler Earth.

GlynnMhor
September 3, 2012 9:15 am

It appears more and more that Landscheidt may have been right:
http://www.landscheidt.info/
No mechanism connecting changes in net solar angular momentum to changes in solar cycle strength is offered, but the various Grand Solar Minima do crop up historically in conjunction with perturbations in net angular momentum.
So it’s not a theory, and maybe not yet an hypothesis, but what is called in Science a Law.

September 3, 2012 9:31 am

Interesting article at Solar Cycle 25
http://sc25.com/index.php?id=395

Rhys Jaggar
September 3, 2012 9:33 am

‘SanityP says:
September 3, 2012 at 8:29 am
For someone who isn’t very fluent in speaking and understanding “sunspots”, this is just another one of those swosh-moments. Can someone who do speak “sunspots”, give us minions an abbreviated “The Idiot’s Guide to sunspots”, please? What does it all mean ? Are we doomed ?’
1. The sun has things called sunspots on its surface some of the time and the numbers of them have been shown to oscillate from a minimum through a maximum and back down to a minimum in a cycle whose length varies from cycle to cycle but is usually around 11 years.
2. Due to changes in the sun’s magnetic field, the solar cycles are usually grouped in pairs of ‘odd cycles’ and ‘even cycles’. One pair is called a Hale Cycle which is usually around 22 years.
3. It has been shown that certain features in the global weather patterns show cyclical patterns, some of which are linked to one solar cycle, others to the Hale cycle. There are other ‘footprints’ of shorter or longer duration which are also linked to interactions between solar and lunar variables; solar and big planet variables etc etc.
4. The effect of sunspots is to change the intensity of certain radiation emitted from the sun which reaches the earth. Occasionally, these can be major pertubations when features called ‘Coronal Mass Ejections’ or ‘Flares’ occur. These have effects on radio signals, satellites and other things orbiting our earth, so folks like NASA, the Hubble Telescope guys etc etc monitor these things carefully.
5. People have noticed that every few hundred years the sun ‘goes quieter’ or ‘very quiet’ for a few decades to several decades. These periods are called minima and are usually named after someone. The Maunder Minimum in the Middle Ages was particularly quiet, whereas a smaller minimum occurred in the early part of the 19th century and was called the Dalton Minimum.
6. Although understanding is still far from complete, researchers are now trying to link solar activity, specific solar output to weather patterns, either short-term or long-term. Piers Corbyn of Weather Action Ltd is someone who makes a living out of this, being particularly adept at predicting extreme weather events associated with solar/lunar pertubations several months ahead of time. His method continues to evolve, as he would freely admit both to his subscribers and those who read his website (www.weatheraction.com).
7. In general, also, the fewer the sunspots you get in an 11 year cycle, the greater the likelihood there is of cooling of the earth. Conversely a series of high sunspot cycles, as occurred in the 20th century, is postulated/believed to be associated with a warming climate. The Little Ice Age was associated with the Maunder Minimum, which was the quietest period of sunspot activity in the past 500 years.
8. Researchers are also wondering whether frequencies of volcanoes/earthquakes/tsunamis etc can be linked to the sunspot cycles. There is certainly no official scientific proof of this, but people are looking at it and having attempts at predicting such events. Time will tell whether they are accurate or not.
9. Of course, if scientists could predict how sunspot cycles would pan out a few decades in advance, this would be extremely valuable for mankind if our politicians, financial communities and farmers made good use of such information for the benefit of societies. In particular, if we were able to predict a marginalisation of yield in major growing areas like Canada, the Northern Mid West of the USA, Russia/Ukraine etc due to the onset of a mini ice age, then efforts would surely be made to evolve agricultural production through lower latitudes. It’s by no means clear that we are able to do this yet and it may take 100 years more of detailed research before it does become possible.
10. Really detailed monitoring of the Sun has only become possible in the era of satellites and telescopes and therefore data prior to about 1950 isn’t really as accurate as the measurements since 1979, when the first satellite data started coming through. As a result, true understanding of what sunspots looked like back in the 1700s, 1800s etc etc is never going to be as accurate as scientists would like. Nonetheless, data from 24 cycles of sunspot cycles since the end of the Maunder Minimum is what scientists use for their predictions for the future.
11. Currently, many scientists believe that the current cycle (24) and the next one (25) will be much weaker than those which have preceded them. There is a body of opinion which believes this points to cooling tendencies from the sun, although how any warming of oceans may compensate for that in terms of air temperatures and subsequent land temperatures is less clear. Scientists who believe that solar output is a major contributor to temperature fluctuations on earth are therefore somewhat skeptical about the ‘global warming’ scaremongering going on particular those who postulate increasing carbon dioxide as the major forcing mechanism.
12. It would not be considered ludicrous therefore for politicians to plan for little rise in temperatures for the next 30 years and they should certainly scenario plan for a possibility of significant cooling. Given, however, that the Dalton minimum in the early 19th century only lasted for 2 cycles before solar output increased again, until proven otherwise, it should be assumed that a return to potentially warmer fare may occur thereafter. Politicians will ask scientists, however, to be constantly looking out for signals that the sun may be going into a deeper sleep and they should be planning how to manage a Northern Hemisphere which might become dangerously short of food in the absence of the Sahara not becoming more fertile in response, should a Maunder-style minimum come to pass.
I wouldn’t expect anyone to take this as gospel truth, nonetheless, I reckon it’s probably a fair summary for non-experts and certainly doesn’t say anything which is clearly false.

Brian D
September 3, 2012 9:35 am

Is sunspot 1560 our first truly equatorial spot group of the cycle? If so, does that indicate we’re truly entering the max?

September 3, 2012 9:56 am

I am not an alarmist. I would really like the world to keep warming up at the rate (the real one) that we saw over the last century or so. But I also believe that watching the sun is the best way to guess what comes next and it does not look good. I don’t really want to see a frozen river in the middle of London.
We need a warm climate for our food crops. We have 7 billion people to feed!

SanityP
September 3, 2012 9:58 am

Greg Steele says:
September 3, 2012 at 9:06 am

Thanks. A short and to the point elevator speech there.

September 3, 2012 10:00 am

Why has the TSI data been recalibrated since Wang Lean Sheeley? Surely TSI is a more valid metric than the sunspot count?

September 3, 2012 10:01 am

thanks Greg Steele for the explanation but it still leaves out the significance of
“solar wind, the Boyle Index ”
“radio flux and the Ap magnetic index”
“ACE RTSW (Estimated) Magnetic Field & Solar Wind”
“SDO”
“Livingston and Penn plot “,
I agree with
SanityP who says: “For someone who isn’t very fluent in speaking and understanding “sunspots”,{…}What does it all mean ? Are we doomed ?”
AND
bobbie becker who says: “whats it all mean to the average Joe/Jane?”
Can someone give us a summery of what it means?
and Russ, I didn’t see any clarification on Livingston and Penn or anything down the page–the link went to the reblog and then linked back here. circular.

WLF15Y
September 3, 2012 10:06 am

Just came across this article in Science Daily. Has this been dis-proven? Can’t find much info online about it.
100,000-Year Climate Pattern Linked To Sun’s Magnetic Cycles
ScienceDaily (June 7, 2002) — HANOVER, N.H. – Thanks to new calculations by a Dartmouth geochemist, scientists are now looking at the earth’s climate history in a new light. Mukul Sharma, Assistant Professor of Earth Sciences at Dartmouth, examined existing sets of geophysical data and noticed something remarkable: the sun’s magnetic activity is varying in 100,000-year cycles,
a much longer time span than previously thought, and this solar activity, in turn, may likely cause the 100,000-year climate cycles on earth. This research helps scientists understand past climate trends and prepare for future ones.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/06/020607073439.htm
I realize it’s a bit old although that doesn’t make it wrong. Any comment from the solar experts posting? If it’s legitimate, seems like a slam dunk…..

September 3, 2012 10:23 am

It may sound odd, but I would say that the last cycle’s (SC23) peak of activity, gone away more than a decade ago is the important factor in the current temperatures.

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