Earthquake in Acapulco

When molecules are heated, they move faster and expand. When molecules are cooled they slow down and contract. So is the sun’s cooling related to the earths surface cooling and the plates are contracting increasing seismic activity?

Another M 7.6 strength earthquake in the wake of the recent solar storms.
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/EQM7.htm
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php

So is the sun’s cooling related to the earths surface cooling and the plates are contracting increasing seismic activity?

I think the perceived increase in seismic activity is more a case of increased reporting.
Just like the perception that there are increasing numbers of tornadoes, turned out to be a case of much better reporting networks and higher population density in the wide open country that many tornado tracks occur in. Even for storm chasers you can be only a mile or two from a tornado and not even be aware of it.
The same applies to earthquake reporting my the modern media. Forty years ago this earthquake would not have even been mentioned in most news papers and if it was, probably a page 10 side bar piece to fill out a column.
Larry

http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/michele-casati-acapulco-earthquake-successfully-predicted/

I hope there are no fatality’s Mexico has been have a hard time of it lately.
But I noticed with some disgust that the most Holidayed president in US History, Obama is sending his family members yet again on the backs of the tax payers. At this point in time when Americans are broke and in financial trouble. His Royal Highness Obama and family carry’s on with his “LET THEM EAT CAKE” lavish life style. Everybody deserves a break and a holiday, but this guy has been on a constant holiday and breaking everybody else!
AFP reported Monday that the Obamas’ oldest daughter was south of the border for spring break, accompanied by 25 Secret Service agents. How much tax payers money went into this Carbon spewing little jaunt???
http://tucsoncitizen.com/usa-today-news/2012/03/20/7-4-quake-strikes-near-acapulco/

USGS
Initial quake:
7.4: 16.66°N -98.19°W 20Km Deep
2012-03-20 18:02:48 UTC
Aftershock:
5.1: 16.53°N -98.01°W 10Km Deep
2012-03-20 20:14:39 UTC

http://www.gorissen.info/Pierre/maps/googleMapLocation.php?lat=16.66°N&lon=-98.19°W&setLatLon=Set
The aftershock looks like a different earthquake in the same region but a different location and at half the depth.

http://www.ncgt.org/newsletter.php?action=download&id=98
excellent research
SUN, MOON AND EARTHQUAKES
Vinayak G. KOLVANKAR
Former scientist, BARC, Mumbai 400051, India
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8745/fign7.jpg
There is linear, predictions is not impossible !
Abstract: During a study conducted to find the effect of Earth tides on the occurrence of earthquakes, for small areas of high-seismicity regions, it was noticed that the Sun’s position in terms of universal time (GMT) shows links to the earthquake-lunar distance together with Sun-Earth-Moon angle. This paper provides the details of this relationship after
studying earthquake data for over forty high-seismicity regions of the world. It was found that nearly 98% of the earthquakes for these different regions, examined for the period 1973-2008, show a direct relationship between the Sun’s position and the earthquake-moon distance together with the Sun-Earth-Moon angle. As the time changes from 00-24 hours, the sum of the earthquake-moon distance and the Sun-Earth-Moon angle changes through 3600, and plotting these two variables for different earthquakes reveals a simple 450 straight-line relationship between them.

Larry Ledwick (hotrod ) says:
March 20, 2012 at 1:01 pm
I think the perceived increase in seismic activity is more a case of increased reporting.
I doubt that there was much change or increased reporting in the last 12 months, but it could be the case in your part of the world.
Andrew30 says:
March 20, 2012 at 1:59 pm
Like babies being born on a full moon, people will often know when it is a full moon…
I assume hospitals keep records; however for both the earthquakes and geomagnetic storms there are reliable archives, at least for the last 12 months (see links, under the graph)
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/EQM7.htm
See also quotes of two conflicting views, from two major USA scientific institutions, USGS and NASA.

I did some harmonic research on earth quakes. Using a simple algorithm adding ecliptic integer modes. This gives the highest index five minutes from Kobe quake event in the whole month.
http://www.volker-doormann.org/19950116.gif
Kobe mode configuration:
http://www.volker-doormann.org/kobemod.jpg
Similar as today in Oaxaco (s. horizon).
Same with China quake.
http://volker-doormann.org/china_quake.gif
http://volker-doormann.org/china_2.gif
for i := 1 to 10 do
for k := 1 to 10 do
begin
alpha := diff(pos[i],pos[k]);
{diff(a,b) computes the geocentric angle distance of 2 bodies}
if (ki) and (k>i) then
begin
y := 4 * sqr(cos(alpha));
y0 := abs(0-y); { 90° }
y1 := abs(1-y); { 60° + 120° }
y2 := abs(2-y); { 45° + 135° }
y3 := abs(3-y); { 30° + 150° }
y4 := abs(4-y); { 0° + 180° }
z0 := 1/(y0+0.005); {The value of 0.005 limits the peak height}
z1 := 1/(y1+0.005);
z2 := 1/(y2+0.005);
z3 := 1/(y3+0.005);
z4 := 1/(y4+0.005);
I := I + (z0+z1+z2+z3+z4);
end;
end;
Christmas quake 2004 the integer was 36.
http://volker-doormann.org/images/mag9_plan_dist.gif
The true point is, intelligent people have more interest in refuting the unknown, then to do lonesome hard science work or even tolerate it.
V.

Michele Casati says:
March 20, 2012 at 2:54 pm
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Hi Michele,
I started to read over the article and ran across this which I’m have some trouble accepting.
It showed the influence of the horizontal component of Earth’s magnetic field, which is susceptible to atmospheric temperature. This phenomenon again depends on the Sun’s local position (Kolvankar et al., 2010).
I understand the effect temperature has on magnetic materials and the Curie temperature issue but how does temperature have any effect on the Earth’s magnetic field which is generated at the core?

Hi Anthony! One of my friends in U.S. EMP Preparedness sent this to me…seems that the Brits are taking the risks of a waking sun quite seriously!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/mar/18/solar-storm-flare-disruption-technology
…is that the smell of a burning iPad 3 that I smell? Oh wait, they combust on their own, sorry.

There was just a 5.0 aftershock that struck Acapulco, Mexico – http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0008me2.php

160km down. Depth is key when looking at magnitude. Look at Christchurch NZ for comparison where M6+ destroyed the city from 10km depth.

I read the article and have another question. The term Earth Tides is repeatedly used but never defined.
I ran a search and found this which presents many of the same conclusions ( http://www.okgeosurvey1.gov/tide.html ):
Earth tides, like ocean tides, are caused by the gravitational attraction of the sun and moon on the rotating earth. The ocean tides are similar, but they vary from place to place according to the shape of the shorline. What we commonly call “TIDE” is the DIFFERENCE between the ocean tides and the earth tides seen at shorelines.
The DIFFERENCE seen at shorelines? This doesn’t make any sense to me.
excerpt from the article:
This proves beyond any doubt that the vast majority (98%) of worldwide earthquakes are governed by the Sun and Moon. Even the smaller earthquakes in the magnitude range of 2-3 faithfully follow this relationship. It is also seen that numerous aftershocks, which follow any major earthquake, faithfully follow straight-line curves, generated by the plot for (EMD+SEM) vs GMT timings.
If I’m following, the article basically states that for the seismically active regions selected, earthquakes can be predicted, with a reasonable probability, to the day and hour based solar moon cycles and the results clearly show a 98% regional conformance to this pattern.
That’s more that pretty amazing if its true.

Distances between Quakes:
Approximate distance between the 7.4 and the 5.1 quakes = 24 km or 14.9 miles
Approximate distance between the 5.1 and the 5.0 quakes = 69.49 km or 43.1 miles
Approximate distance between the 7.4 and the 5.0 quakes = 54.96 km or 34.15 miles
Surface Distance: http://www.chemical-ecology.net/java/lat-long.htm
Convert Decimal Degrees: http://transition.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/DDDMMSS-decimal.html

Time duration between quakes is strange — approximately 2 hours 12 mins. plus or minus 1 min.
If another follows the pattern…

John from CA says:
March 20, 2012 at 6:54 pmTime duration between quakes is strange — approximately 2 hours 12 mins. plus or minus 1 min.
If another follows the pattern…
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I bet it has to do with wave propogation down into the core and then reflected back

Alright you jokers who say these quakes are predictable, make some quake predictions. You have a world-wide audience. Tell us what elliptical numbers or sun-moon-etc axis predicts for the next most likely times for large earthquakes. Give a list with likelihood of happening. Quakes happen all the time. So, make them Mag 7+ if you can.

Vukcevic;
See also quotes of two conflicting views, from two major USA scientific institutions, USGS and NASA.>>>
That’s only one Vuk. NASA was converted to Muslim outreach at the beginning of the Obama administration.

For a comprehensive overview of the study of solar electromagnetic influences on quake production, with regards to earth currents, lunar tidal effects, and earth harmonic frequencies with regard to latitude see;
http://www.geo-seismic-labs.org/
http://www.geo-seismic-labs.org/GSL/REPORTS/2007/MT_ULF_2007.htm#GLBULF
http://www.geo-seismic-labs.org/GSL/gslfla1.htm

_Jim says:
March 20, 2012 at 8:22 pm
Had the liquid core of the earth been disturbed we would have seen a static change for a week in the earth’s magnetic field, and a change back would have been a dynamic change that could also have been detected and measured.
Possibly. One step at the time, Jim.
Here is what it looks like:
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/Tromso.htm
We don’t know, so it is better to monitor the daily data then do nothing.

Volker Doormann says:
March 20, 2012 at 4:05 pm
I did some harmonic research on earth quakes. Using a simple algorithm adding ecliptic integer modes. ..
The true point is, intelligent people have more interest in refuting the unknown, then to do lonesome hard science work or even tolerate it.
“From: Volker Doormann <noreply@volker-doormann.org
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 21:13:29 +0200
Subject: 2006.01.02
Message-ID: <d7nlqu$lc4$00$1@news.t-online.com
Zum Beispiel Djakarta 2. Januar 2006</b<, 13h45 (06:45 GMT)”
"A major earthquake occurred at 06:10:49 (UTC) on Monday, January 2, 2006. The magnitude 7.4 event has been located EAST OF THE SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS. (This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.) Location: 60.807°S, 21.474°W ”
I could make this demonstration because of the knowledge of the harmonic laws in the solar system.
Who is interested in evidence, there is a correlation between the yearly earthquake frequency mag >7.0 and the yearly component of the solar system harmonics:

However, I have made a prediction correct in time of about 35 minutes a half year before a major quake, but for a wrong place (120° East from right place) because I was not aware that there is a quake region in the South Atlantic.
Any better science based quake predictions known?
BTW. The work of j. H. Nelson
V.

David Larsen says:
March 20, 2012 at 12:39 pm
When molecules are heated, they move faster and expand. When molecules are cooled they slow down and contract. So is the sun’s cooling related to the earths surface cooling and the plates are contracting increasing seismic activity?

Kind of a mash-moosh there.
1. When molecules are heated, they move faster Yes
2. and expand. No. The molecules are unchanged; the solid, liquid, or gas spreads out because of more vigorous collisions.
3. the sun’s cooling No. The Sun is not cooling; the “quiet period” is the frequency of breaks in the “surface” due to magnetic storms etc. reducing. = fewer sunspots and less solar wind.
4. earths surface cooling. Maybe. Small cooling or pause in general warming.
5. related to Possible; less solar wind may permit more cosmic ray seeding of clouds causing shading of the surface.
6. the plates are contracting No. Plates are moving, not contracting.
7. increasing seismic activity No. No statistical increase is occurring.
1½-2 out of 7. Not too good.

I don’t have a scientific bone in me, so I’m going on intuition here, but my hackles are starting to fluff-up nicely with this earthquake prediction stuff. Michele’s predictions, which Tall Bloke admires…and I respect Tall Bloke…lead to Bendandi’s planetary alignment stuff, and the folks who are into that are intoTesla coils, with others going off to planetary harmonics, and if one follows up those sources, on we go to crop circles which involve rationalistic explanations along with a cocktail of occult stuff leading to the Mayan Calendar and 2012 cataclysms, which continuum take us…right back to Michele’s planetary alignment hypothesis and earthquake predictions which…on the face of it, look pretty weak to me. This is all confusing to my little brain, knowing that real discoveries were often made by people who also dabbled in the pseudosciences. Anyway, not wishing to offend anyone, I’m getting queezy about all this, but I stand ready to be advised or chastised for my ignorance and paranoia.

Peter Kovachev says:
March 21, 2012 at 4:07 am
I don’t have a scientific bone in me, so I’m going on intuition here, ..
The truth is that there is no statement from geologists sounding ‘We do understand the physical process which triggers the earthquake and because of that we do know when and where a quake in future will occur.’ To me this indicates that they know nothing more than you.
On the other side there are many serious hints available to the science community that as well earthquakes but also solar flares are connected to planetary geocentric and heliocentric harmonics . For those who belief in statistics, there is a significance that these harmonics correlate with the > Mag 7.0 earthquake frequency.
http://www.up-research.com/image/35year.gif
But statistics only indicate that there is a relation; statistics don’t show which geometry or mechanism cracks the surface of earth or Sun; to solve the whole thing it needs a lot of disciplines and some unbiased researchers, free from the presumptuous talk of the mob in politics and blogs.
The truth is that in the present society there is no one who would pay some scientist for this theme. Like you the society argues ‘One, who deals with planets is known as village idiot, who is involved in communism, witchcraft, UFO’s, aliens, AGW, and worrier on white horses sounding along the sky.
V.

Michele Casati says:
March 21, 2012 at 4:25 am

say :There is a magnitide 7,0 – 7,9 earthquake somewhere every three weeks. That’s about a 5% chance every day.
False
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqinthenews/

So, three M7 quakes so far this year, I’d call that pretty much on track with that frequency. I googled for the frequency and found 18 a year. Here’s another page saying 15 a year, and also giving the statistics for the last few years:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/year/eqstats.php
I’ve run a seismometer at home for several years which picks up M6+ quakes anywhere in the world, and I’d say that M7 quakes are pretty common. Based on that I’ll happily predict right now a M7 quake within the next 48 hours, and with some luck (but not too much luck) I’ll be right. Have more people making other predictions, and pretty soon someone will be right.

E.M.Smith says:
March 21, 2012 at 2:37 am
As I understand it, it is not just “phase of the moon” but is “phase of the moon at perigee”.
The analysis I showed http://www.leif.org/research/Earthquakes-Full-New.png was precisely using as key times Full [and New] moons within 2 days of Perigee.

The strangest thing about this earthquake was, that there was an earthquake exercise planned and started 3 minutes before the actual quake took place! See the actual Mexican news item (google) translated! Foreknowledge or mere coincidence? Judge yourself! Watch videos and read article!

Anthony,
I noticed this yesterday and thought I’d mention it.
The NOAA url I follow for earthquakes is http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/dyfi/
It doesn’t mention the 3rd Mexico earthquake reported above. What’s up with that?

@ John from CA
My empirical methodology
Look my graphs
There are two stages prior to major events geofisic.
1°step
Charge solar EM (jumps solar wind)
Solar (flare / cme / coronal holes)
2°step
Discharge (Trigger planetarium)
low solar wind
Input new moon or perigee or planetary alignments inside-outside solar system
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0079194698001219
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0012821X67900714
http://www.aip.de/thinkshop/posterpaper/mukherjee1.pdf
http://www.springerlink.com/content/buvw2tq081013210/
http://www.opteryx.de/docs/tamrazyan/Tamrazyan_1968.pdf
http://www.opteryx.de/docs/tamrazyan/Tamrazyan_1967.pdf
http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/1104.2036

Very interesting studies. I’m getting a beam me up Scottie moment from this one.
http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/0801.0876
Scale invariability
M. Omerbashich
(Submitted on 6 Jan 2008 (v1), last revised 9 Feb 2010 (this version, v2))
I recently demonstrated that the Earth is a mechanical oscillator in which springtide induced magnification of all-masses resonance forces tectonics. I here generalize this georesonator concept so to make it apply to any body, anywhere in all the universes, and at all times. It turns out that there is no distinction between physics at intergalactic, mechanist, quantum, and smaller scales. Instead of being a constant (of proportionality of physics at all scales), G is a parameter of most general form: G = s e^2, nonlinearly varying amongst different scales s. The so called scale variability of physics but not of G, imagined as such by Planck and Einstein, is due to springtide-induced extreme resonance of Earth masses critically impeding terrestrial experiments for estimating G, while providing artificial settings for quantum experiments to all trivially “work”. Thus the derived equation is that of levitation. Reality is a system of near infinitely many magnifying oscillators, where permanent energy decay of all oscillation forbids constancy of known “physical constants”. This hyperresonator concept explains the magnetism (as every forced oscillator feature), as well as the gravitation (as forward propagation of mechanical vibrations along the aether i.e. throughout the vacuum structure). To test my claim I propose a Space mission to collect on site measurements of eigenperiods of the Sun, its planets, and their satellites. The levitation equitation enables propulsionless Space travel via gravity sailing: Space vehicle hull ought to be engineered so as to automatically adjust its grave mode, to the vehicle instant gravitational surroundings, akin to trout up swimming.
This jumped out at me. Is this true; http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/1104.2036 ?
Astronomical alignments as the cause of ~M6+ seismicity
Mensur Omerbashich
(Submitted on 11 Apr 2011 (v1), last revised 4 Dec 2011 (this version, v5))
I here demonstrate empirically my georesonator concept in which tidally induced magnification of Earth masses’ resonance causes seismicity on Earth. To that end, I show that all strong (~M6+) earthquakes of 2010 occurred during Earth’s long (t > 3 days) astronomical alignments in our solar system. I show that the same holds true for all very strong (~M8+) earthquakes of the decade of 2000’s. Finally, the strongest (M8.6+) earthquakes of the past century are shown to have occurred during Earth’s multiple long alignments too, whereas half of the high-strongest (M9+) earthquakes occurred during Full Moon. To add to my solution’s robustness, I include alignments to comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) as the only heavenly body currently in our solar system besides planets, and show it impacted very strong seismicity since 2007 (and strongest seismicity, perhaps since 1965). I conclude my empirical demonstration with a two-month, 100%-successful forecast of M6+ magnification, performed online in near real-time in Oct-Nov 2011, and which shows always the same pattern of intensifying-peaking-diminishing of strong earthquakes’ strength during long alignments, and the absence of the pattern outside alignments. Days without killer quake can now be known exactly, amounting to months a year of exact seismic forecast (telling with certainty there will be no strong seisms on that-and-that date). Approximate forecast of strength and timing of strong earthquakes is feasible for the rest of the year, as well as of location once the alignment begins. I thus verified my hyperresonator concept, arrived at earlier as a mathematical-physical solution to the most general extension of georesonator. Hyperresonance is akin to tuning forks triggering each other at distance, so my discovery demonstrates the existence of aether as required for propagation of tuning (interfering) oscillations in Space.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0008mye.php
Magnitude 6.7 – NEW GUINEA, PAPUA NEW GUINEA
2012 March 21 22:15:05 UTC

Hi again, Peter
That is another story, but don’t ask for details.
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/GTC.htm
Just a hobby.

Peter Kovachev says:
March 21, 2012 at 2:52 pm
Volker Doorman and vukcevic, …
I think what I’m trying to understand is where the borders between science and pseudoscience on this one are.
If you belief in pseudoscience then you have not understood the borders of science. Science is operating with what IS, and because it is impossible to define pseudoscience because it IS NOT, there is only science or NOT. Science is using strong arguments and this means giving reasons to the argument. To speak statements, also if they comes from authorities, and/or NO statements like L. Svalgaard is stating as a authority is therefore no science. It is ever necessary to argue on something what IS and giving a reason, which can be checked by the listener.
I have given to you a graph which shows a correlation between Earthquakes and solar system (geometrical) harmonies. The rule in science is, that you can verify the relation or not, but when you do not the verification, you cannot come on again speaking on ‘pseudoscience’.
The very point is that there are two fields of speaking. The one point is speaking about what is yours, your opinion, your ideas or your religion, your own. The other point is science, and on this point only the strength of an argument is relevant and not the speaker or the authority or the science community in number. Who the speaker is, or what labels or academic titles he or she has on his door is not relevant. There is only a chance that an astronomer can give better arguments than a scientist who has knowledge on the physics of oceans if there are questions about the decreasing gravity prior and after eclipses:
http://www.volker-doormann.org/images/gravimeter.gif
Has Sir Newton an answer why the local gravity is decreasing if the moon is going on to block the sun?
Is there a formula?
There is an argument, that in general, if an celestial object comes near to a conjunction with another object, the local gravitation (on the Sun or on other planets) can be changed.
And as long this effect is not understood, it proves Sir Newton not totally wrong, but it flats down the equation of Sir Newton as not correct.
I have done more as thousand discussions like these and in no case there was an agreement. There is no interest in doing hard research alone against the mainstream guided by the peer reviewers and the science security army conditioned in academies.
This blog is special; if one idiot has some science news, not conform to the dead authorities, there is no discussion, but silence.
V.