Despite the wailings at various blogs and news outlets about this mild winter in the USA being the result of global warming, NASA says otherwise. Not a mention of AGW, CO2, or any of that blame game can be found in their summary, just AO patterns and La Niña.
End of Winter: How 2012 Snow Stacks Up
By Ellen Gray NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md.
The mild winter of 2012 has many people asking, “Where’s the snow?” These two snow cover maps show the difference between snow extent on March 3, 2011, and March 5, 2012. The maps were compiled from data collected by the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) instrument aboard NASA’s Terra satellite.
In 2012, the snow cover is very spotty compared to 2011. In 2011, the Great Lakes were clearly defined by surrounding snow, and snow blanketed the Rocky Mountains, Nevada’s Basin and Range, and the Sierra Nevada all the way into southern California.
In 2012, areas that are usually snow covered are bare, including parts of Montana, Wyoming and South Dakota. The Snake River Plain in southern Idaho is clearly visible. This low-lying valley is the track of the hotspot that is now under Yellowstone National Park. In the east, the Great Lakes area, southern Ontario and the East Coast of the United States have much less snow cover than they did at this time last year.
2012’s relatively light snowfall is the result of two atmospheric processes, according to climatologist Bill Patzert of NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. One is the La Niña conditions in the Pacific, which result in less moist air crossing the continental United States. The other is a strong Arctic Oscillation that keeps cold arctic air around the North Pole and away from more southern latitudes.
For a more in-depth explanation, visit: http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/17jan_missingsnow/
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OK, guys, you sit on Dr Hansen while I rush this to print……
OFF TOPIC, but timely and important. I always watch the PBS Newshour and consider it among the most reliable news because they usually provide at least two sides to any controversial topic. Tonight they interviewed one of the spokespersons from Climate Central about this new web posting-
http://www.climatecentral.org/
Ray Suarez had not done his homework and also did not interview any one else to correct the misinformation about accerating global warming and accelerating sea level rise.
The Climate Central spokesperson also touted the hindcasting ability of his models which are projecting 2′- 7′ additional sea rise ihe next 100 years. I hope others who watched the program went to their website and commented as I did. I also left a message at the local PBS outlet. IMO, this outrageous misinformation deserves pushback and a correction on the Newshour later this week.
@Doug Allen.
It’s PBS. You expect less?
As I said, PBS usuually presents center left and center right. If you are far right or left, you won’t be happy with it. They only presented one side tonight, which is unusuall, and deserves pushback.
….that means more ice in the Arctic Ocean, right?
Yes refreshing but…
This time last year La Niña was stronger yet more snow. Should they be brave enough to say “we just don’t know enough”?
“Where’s the snow?”
As someone from northern Illinois……………………
WHO CARES !!!!!!!!!
I don’t miss it a bit !!
@Doug. – that site is just too hard on a mobile device. Probably reflects the owners Neanderthal attitude to technology as a whole…
“Not a mention of AGW, CO2, or any of that blame game can be found in their summary, just AO patterns and La Niña.” –AW
Hmm. Such mentionings have been pro forma on many a report, either as a prelude or in the conclusion. Kind of like the mediaeval texts and church instriptions during the plague times, with the memento mori (remember death) obligatory reminder. Memento colefactio globalis ?. Lately, I’ve noticed fewer and fewer mentionings. A trend? Fatigue? Embarrassment over the banality? Whatever it is, maybe we shouldn’t mention it so as not to jinx it.
Heres my well researched rebuttal to NASA / Bill Patzert. “Climate Change cause’s La Nina and Arctic Oscillation…Full Stop”. I expect to have this pal-reviewed and published by tomorrow afternoon.
The other is a strong Arctic Oscillation that keeps cold arctic air around the North Pole and away from more southern latitudes.
LOL I am sure that Snow in Tunisia in February was just the result of warm air…
I read a watered down version of this in my local paper(Burlington Free Press, Burlington VT, bastion of the Left) and had to go through it again when I didn’t see “Global Warming/Climate Change mentioned at all. Once I confirmed it was absent from the paper, I had my wife triple check just to be sure and promptly fell out of my chair. Take heart all, I think the MSM is weaning itself from the meme becasue the “Cause” is withering day by day.
I wonder what a comparison of February 2011 with February 2012 would look like….just wondering.
MSM manufacturing news:
Here is an example with
Environmentalists alarmed after study reveals massive Great Lakes ice loss
By Sheila Dabu Nonato, Postmedia News
http://www.canada.com/technology/Environmentalists+alarmed+after+study+reveals+massive+Great+Lakes+loss/6297132/story.html#ixzz1p91r2v1p
Quoting her article: “According to a February study in the Journal of Climate, Lake Ontario lost the most ice cover (88 per cent), with Lake Superior placing second at 79 per cent over a 38-year period. Lake St. Clair — which is part of the Great Lakes system but is not normally considered one of the Great Lakes — lost the least (37 per cent). Researchers used historical satellite measurements of the Great Lakes’ ice cover from 1973 to 2010.
The study attributed the overall decrease to global warming.”
Now is the abstract from the article by Wang, Jia, Xuezhi Bai, Haoguo Hu, Anne Clites, Marie Colton, Brent Lofgren, 2012: Temporal and Spatial Variability of Great Lakes Ice Cover, 1973–2010*. J. Climate, 25, 1318–1329.
doi: http://dx.doi.org/10.1175/2011JCLI4066.1
“In this study, temporal and spatial variability of ice cover in the Great Lakes are investigated using historical satellite measurements from 1973 to 2010. The seasonal cycle of ice cover was constructed for all the lakes, including Lake St. Clair. A unique feature found in the seasonal cycle is that the standard deviations (i.e., variability) of ice cover are larger than the climatological means for each lake. This indicates that Great Lakes ice cover experiences large variability in response to predominant natural climate forcing and has poor predictability. Spectral analysis shows that lake ice has both quasi-decadal and interannual periodicities of ~8 and ~4 yr. There was a significant downward trend in ice coverage from 1973 to the present for all of the lakes, with Lake Ontario having the largest, and Lakes Erie and St. Clair having the smallest. The translated total loss in lake ice over the entire 38-yr record varies from 37% in Lake St. Clair (least) to 88% in Lake Ontario (most). The total loss for overall Great Lakes ice coverage is 71%, while Lake Superior places second with a 79% loss. An empirical orthogonal function analysis indicates that a major response of ice cover to atmospheric forcing is in phase in all six lakes, accounting for 80.8% of the total variance. The second mode shows an out-of-phase spatial variability between the upper and lower lakes, accounting for 10.7% of the total variance. The regression of the first EOF-mode time series to sea level pressure, surface air temperature, and surface wind shows that lake ice mainly responds to the combined Arctic Oscillation and El Niño–Southern Oscillation patterns.”
NO mention of global warming here but of AO and ENSO patterns.
Sheila Dabu Donato listened to environmentalists and manufactured her line. Shame on you!
I live in Toronto and have been fascinated all winter that the CTV news team has not only been consistently praising the warm weather, but seems intent on refusing to so much as mention AGW. About a week ago they quoted a letter (I believe) from someone saying, “But let’s not forget the serious issue underlying this nice weather.” But after that brief nod, they immediately went back to singing the praises of the mild weather. It’s been surreal. Ever since it became apparent that our winter was going to be warm, I’ve been tensing for the inevitable lectures from the news stations, but there has hardly been so much as a nod towards global warming.
Needless to say, this has made my mild winter even better.
Peter Kovachev says:
March 14, 2012 at 5:55 pm
“Not a mention of AGW, CO2, or any of that blame game can be found in their summary, just AO patterns and La Niña.” –AW
Hmm. Such mentioning have been pro forma on many a report, either as a prelude or in the conclusion. Kind of like the medieval texts and church inscriptions during the plague times, with the memento mori (remember death) obligatory reminder. Memento colefactio globalis ?. Lately, I’ve noticed fewer and fewer mentionings. A trend? Fatigue? Embarrassment over the banality? Whatever it is, maybe we shouldn’t mention it so as not to jinx it.
Peter I agree with you the Canadian TV News coverage, but the CBC radio and the Vancouver Sun newspaper seem to cover every alarmist story with such monotony I call it my local warming rag and CBC alarmist central. P.S I listen to the CBC after midnight because I’m a night owl and the newspaper I get for free that’s all it’s worth and knowing what I know about the likes of Mann and the IPPC I will never support an alarmist cause!!
Here’s a chance to listen to Ken Gale’s Eco-Logic of December 13th, 2011 He covers other environmental issues as the show begins, and the forecast portion begins at 8:39 into the show.
Here’s the link:
http://archive.wbai.org/files/mp3/wbai_111213_200100ecologic.mp3
You get a 50 minute “before the event” forecast with some decent detail about La Nina too!
[snip – no using the d-word here to label people. Disagree with me if you want, and resubmit sans that labeling but take your slurs and go home if that’s what you want to be doing – be as upset as you wish – Anthony Watts]
Hi Anthony,
I’ve got your snow. Over 10 feet of it in Anchorage, considerably more at my house. We are just a couple of inches short of the all time record. The way I measure how much snow we have had is how much gas I have used to plow my driveway. Last year it was less then 10 gallons. This year, I have used more then 35 gallons. (So far!) I usually love lots of snow, but please, no more!!!
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA
923 PM PDT WED MAR 14 2012
Following the weather forecast:
.AVALANCHE…A NEARLY CONTINUOUS PARADE OF STORMS BEGAN IN THE
OLYMPICS AND NORTH WA CASCADES FRIDAY SPREADING TO THE REMAINDER OF THE CASCADES AND MT HOOD AREA SATURDAY. THE STORM TOTAL AMOUNTS OF SNOW ARE VERY IMPRESSIVE WITH MOST AREAS RECEIVING 3 TO 6 FEET OF SNOW IN THE PAST FOUR DAYS WITH MT BAKER GETTING 8 FEET OVER FIVE DAYS!
THIS HEAVY SNOW IS LOADING BURIED WEAK LAYERS AND IS ALL OVERLYING A CRUST LAYER. THE CRUST LAYER SHOULD ACT AS A SLIDING SURFACE MEANING SLIDES BEGINNING IN NEW SNOW LAYERS MAY THEN REACH THE CRUST NOW BURIED UP TO 5 TO 10 FEET OR MORE IN WIND LOADED TERRAIN.
AN AVALANCHE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY.
To post the above, I had to log in via WordPress and reset a password.
I’ve never had to do that before. Did I do something different or why did that happen? The comment is from ‘jhultquist’ while every other comment I’ve made is as John F. Hultquist.
So Anthony, you’re saying that you can insult people on this Website, but I can’t call a spade a spade here. Shocking!
REPLY: I’m saying you can’t use the d-word as you did, you are welcome to resubmit sans that. Somehow though I don’t think you’ll be able to control your anger and bias there “pierre”.
UPDATE: On second thought, after reviewing your previous comments here, many of which have been snipped for policy, and seeing how you want to shut down WUWT: “The only legal people that need to be brought are those required to permanently shut down the WUWT Web site for deliberately misinforming people.” 01-25-12
…let me retract that previous statement and say this instead:
Get out, you aren’t welcome here. You are now in the troll bin.
– Anthony
Mt. Baker has had +8 feet of snow fall in the last 5 days, according to our local report from Seattle. Snoqualmie Pass (I-90) has ‘chains required’ for both directions again today. We have had wet flurries of snow falls down to sea level, all over the Puget Sound in the last 3 days.
Don’t get too relaxed and comfortable because just like Freddy, they’ll be back-
http://www.news.com.au/technology/sci-tech/dont-be-fooled-by-wet-summer-scientists/story-fn5fsgyc-1226300025423
How does that front that came through at the start of March tie in? I remember all the talk of record snowfall (just because it happened to fall on March 1 or 2, which annoyed me to no end). Did it melt by the date listed? Is the map accurate? I don’t remember if there was a front last year at that time.
Also, being in South Florida, and never living north of Dallas, TX, are the northern states typically covered in snow constantly over a period of months? I find that hard to believe, but I don’t enjoy the Weather Channel like I used to, so I don’t remember.