The BBC and Climate Change: A Triple Betrayal (ho ho)

From Dr. Roger Pielke Sr.some comments on the recent scathing report on BBC’s impartiality (ho ho) when it comes to reporting climate change. He writes:

Comments On The Global Warming Policy Foundation Report “The BBC and Climate Change: A Triple Betrayal”

Benny Peiser of the Global Warming Policy Foundation has alerted us to a searing criticism of the BBC in a report by Christopher Booker and Anthony Jay titled

The BBC and Climate Change: A Triple Betrayal.

He summarizes this “betrayal” in three summary points

* First, it has betrayed its statutory obligation to be impartial, using the excuse that any dissent from the official orthodoxy was so insignificant that it should just be ignored or made to look ridiculous.

* Second, it has betrayed the principles of responsible journalism, by allowing its coverage to become so one-sided that it has too often amounted to no more than propaganda.

* Third, it has betrayed the fundamental principles of science, which relies on unrelenting scepticism towards any theory until it can be shown to provide a comprehensive explanation for the observed evidence.

Judy Curry has posted

David Whitehouse on Science Journalism

where she discusses their report among other topics. Her summary statement is

When science becomes politicized, we need journalists to be playing a watchdog role and not just parroting the words of scientists and their press releases.

I agree with her conclusion. I also would add that this politicization has permeated the leadership of professional societies including the American Geophysical Union; e.g. see

Advocacy Of A Particular Climate Science Perspective By A Panel Sponsored By The American Geophysical Union

as well as funding agencies; e.g. see

US Government Funding Agencies As Gatekeepers

The press is not the only group at fault as our professional societies and funding agencies are also failing to provide balanced assessments of the science.

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From Anthony: James Delingpole weighs in with an excerpt from Booker’s piece.

Which brings us to thing I’ve been dying to write about for two weeks: Christopher Booker’s magisterial report for the Global Warming Policy Foundation on the BBC’s role in promulgating the Great Man Made Global Warming Myth. It’s brilliant.

So brilliant that I’m going to have to run its damning conclusion at considerable length. Here he is, summing up what he calls the BBC’s “three betrayals”:

            The first was the BBC’s betrayal of its statutory obligation to report on the world with ‘impartially’. In its own mind it got round this by creating its own definition of the meaning of the word. The IPCC, the scientific and political establishments, Al Gore, the developers of wind turbines and heaven knows who else were all so unanimously convinced that man-made global warming was an unchallengeable fact that the BBC decreed that these were the only people who should be listened to. Anyone who dissented from this orthodoxy could be ignored as belonging to just a tiny minority of cranks, or venally corrupted hirelings of Big Oil, whose views it would be improper for the BBC to publicise.

The problem was that, outside the ‘bubble’, all sorts of things were beginning to contradict this cosy scenario. Ever more serious scientists were beginning to question the orthodox theory of what was influencing the world’s climate. It emerged ever more clearly that the projections made by over-simplistic computer models no longer matched up with the observed evidence of what was actually happening to the climate. Ever more evidence came to light to suggest that the IPCC was not the unimpeachably objective and honest scientific body it was claimed to be.

It was all this which helped to illuminate the extent of the second ‘betrayal’ in the BBC’s coverage of the story, the way it betrayed the principles of professional journalism. So committed to the cause were its journalists that, when important questions began to be raised as to whether the story was really as unarguable as it was claimed to be, their only real response was simply to dig in their toes to defend it. They could no longer step outside the ‘bubble’, as independent-minded journalists should have been able to do, to consider all these questions in their own right. They could only stay within the mindset they knew, talking only to those within the orthodoxy who could provide them with the answers they needed to fend off all these tiresome ‘deniers’ appearing from outside the ‘bubble’ to ask awkward questions – such as how genuinely scientific were the methods used to create the ‘hockey stick’ graph?

One of the impressions it is hard to avoid in reviewing the BBC’s coverage of this story is that its journalists, and those shadowy figures behind them in the BBC hierarchy, are not particularly well-informed about many of the issues they report on. This point was made as long ago as 2006 by the journalist Richard D. North, when he described his experience in attending that day-long seminar organised by Roger Harrabin,  As North observed:

I was frankly appalled by the level of ignorance of the issue which the BBC people showed …I heard nothing which made me think any of them read any broadsheet newspaper coverage of the topic (except maybe the Guardian and that lazily) … it seemed to me that none of them had shown even a modicum of professional curiosity on the subject … I spent the day discussing the subject and I don’t recall anyone showing any sign of having read anything serious at all.

This may help to explain the third of the three ‘betrayals’ to which I referred at the start, the consistency with which the BBC’s coverage of this story has shown so little understanding of the basic principles of science. We have seen how again and again they have put out programmes designed to promote their cause which have contained quite rudimentary scientific errors.  They have loved to wheel on front men such as Sir David Attenborough, Dr Iain Stewart or Sir Paul Nurse, claiming to speak with all the authority of being ‘a scientist’ – but who have then been shown, on matters outside their own disciplines, to be out of their depth. These people have been used to lend the prestige of ‘science’ for the purposes of what amounted to no more than clumsy exercises in propaganda.

Perhaps the most revealing example of all of this misuse of the prestige of science was that truly bizarre report produced in 2011 for the BBC Trust by Professor Jones, arguing that, far from being too biassed, the BBC’s coverage of the story should in future become even more biassed still.

The sheer Alice in Wonderland dottiness of this report might serve as a suitable epitaph on what has been one of the saddest chapters in the BBC’s history. Here is a hugely important and far-reaching issue on which for years it has been comprehensively misleading the audience from which it derives its funding. Yet the tragedy is that it seems so incapable of recognising just how badly it has failed us that there is little realistic prospect of it ever being likely to change its ways.

The one body which in theory has the power to call the BBC to account when it is failing in its journalistic and statutory responsibilities is the BBC Trust (which in 2008 succeeded the old Board of Governors). But the Trust’s present chairman Lord Patten, a former EU Commissioner and fervent Europhile, has been an unquestioning supporter of the ‘consensus’ on climate change ever since the days when he was Secretary of State for the Environment back In 1990.  He has more recently described it as ‘the only really existential issue confronting the world today’ and as ‘’the biggest issue we face’.[1]

His ‘vice-chair’, Diane Coyle, married to the BBC’s Technology Editor and a former economics editor of the Independent, has similarly parroted the mantras of the orthodoxy (just as in former times, like Patten, she was a fervent supporter of the campaign for Britain to join the euro, scorning those opposed to it as being driven only by a visceral ‘anti-Europeanism and ‘Little England-ism’).

It is hardly surprising that in such hands the Trust should have both commissioned and warmly endorsed Jones’s report calling for the BBC to show even more bias than hitherto. So the BBC’s position is therefore likely to remain – until that time when the great scare over global warming may come to be looked back on as having been one of the most significant examples in history of how easily human beings can be carried away by what the author of a famous book once long ago called ‘extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds’.

I highly recommend Sir Antony Jay’s foreword too, which offers an equally brilliant ex-insider’s insight into the BBC mentality which made these betrayals possible. Perhaps I’ll find time to reprint it in another post. Not in this one, where the lofty scorn of the Booker on tip top form is more than treat enough.

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79 Responses to The BBC and Climate Change: A Triple Betrayal (ho ho)

  1. In the link next to the BBC logo, you mean Christopher Booker, not Brooker.

  2. I love Christopher Booker. He is a columnist for the Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker) and has written a popular book about the media using science to scare the people, bird flu, Y2K, BSE, that kind of stuff. All that stuff they said was going to kill millions, but only a few people died and got hurt. Check him out WUWTers.

  3. Rick Bradford says:

    In this excerpt, Booker doesn’t mention that the overwhelming ethos of the BBC is ‘progressive’ left-wing, and thus an easy capture for the narratives of anti-capitalism, of victimhood and “climate justice.”

    All the while, of course, BBC staff enjoy among the most pampered existences in the UK.

  4. cui bono says:

    So true, and congrats to Mr Booker and Sir Anthony for writing it.

    Newsnight tonight was typical – our oafish ex-Deputy PM John Prescott and an activist in Durban outdoing each other in support for a ‘low-carbon economy’. Prescott attacked ‘nimbys’ for not wanting turbines near them. Everyone agreed that the public were selfish for ranking their pocketbooks above the ‘future of the planet’.

    Shortly followed by a report on the Scottish gales. The exploding turbine got 1 second with no irony; a background video of happy turbines went on for much longer.

    Sir Anthony should write ‘Yes Energy Minister’, but it would never be broadcast. Sigh.

  5. Anthony… can you edit my previous comment – I put ‘Brooker’ instead of’ Booker’ after correcting you!! It’s late!

  6. crosspatch says:

    Bet it just got a little colder in Norwich.

  7. Here’s another little example of the BBC’s bias, by the fantastic James Delingpole. (Did I spell that right, yes I think so ;)) It leads on to talk about the same study by the GWPF: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100122686/the-bbc-less-trustworthy-more-dangerous-than-a-cannibal-polar-bear/

  8. bushbunny says:

    Well they will have eggs on their faces. They have invested a substantial amount of their pension fund in carbon credits, and probably clean energy. Now the Durban conference is almost nothing but leaving with nothing but a heap of Carbon footprints and hot air maybe they will start selling off their carbon credits at a loss no doubt. However, I still love Lord Christopher Monckton’s image of helmetless and in a suit doing a free fall. This is turning out to be a good day for once, I just passed my diploma in agricultural (organic) agriculture. Mainly concentrating on sustainable farming methodology. It was hard, and I’ve been 3 years at it, and two years before to get my Cert IV in the same discipline. Oh the message is we need carbon and carbon dioxide for fertility of the soil, and the health of stock. Now they are trying to ban helium filled balloons, what next Santa Clause and his methane producing reindeer. LOL

  9. tokyoboy says:

    BBC = Bad Boys Corporation?

  10. cui bono says:

    Sorry – I should explain that ‘Yes Minister’ was a dry 80s satire on politicians and bureaucrats.

    Senior bureaucrat: “Minister, it seems one of out windmills has exploded”.
    Minister: “Don’t be absurd! Windmills don’t explode.”
    Senior bureaucrat: “Well, I’m afraid it appears that British ones do.”

  11. Jeremy says:

    Right on queue..today on the BBC we have

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16081214

    “Predating another bear is a way to get food; it’s probably a relatively easy way for a big adult male. And it seems that because of the circumstances of the loss of sea ice – that kind of behaviour may be becoming more common.”

  12. Smokey says:

    Britain becoming more conservative [check out the comments to see the BBC's reaction].

  13. Jeremy says:

    I just finished the entire report. WOW!

    IMHO, the BBC must sacrifice a few heads if it is to survive.

    This report is so comprehensively damning that there is really no defense. Clearly not even incompetence will wash. This report, along with Donna Laframboise’s book, is like a one-two knockout punch.

  14. Rational Debate says:

    re post by: bushbunny says: December 8, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    …They have invested a substantial amount of their pension fund in carbon credits, and probably clean energy….

    That had been my recollection also, e.g., that the BBC’s pension plans were all tied up massively in “green/alternative/AGW” type investments, but I was worried that I might be recalling the wrong organization. Wasn’t there an article here at WUWT about the conflict of interest quite some time ago?

    p.s., congratulations on receiving your diploma, bushbunny!

  15. R. de Haan says:

    In the mean time the gravy train continues: More UN Insanity Paid for by US Taxpayers
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/12/06/more-u-n-insanity-paid-for-by-u-s-taxpayers/

  16. Rational Debate says:

    Ok, for whatever it’s worth, a quick google of:

    “bbc pension” conflict of interest global warming

    yields a lot of returns (many/most from blogs of course). There was also at least one article about BBC pension funding creating a huge conflict of interest here on WUWT also. I haven’t checked these, but just a couple of examples:

    http://tinyurl.com/yjysfqb

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/04/24/the-telegraph-gets-it-about-climatgate-inestigations-and-the-conflict-of-interest-of-publicly-funded-media/

  17. Paul80 says:

    Benny Peiser’s three point (at the beginning) apply equally to Australia’s ABC – and some other of our media. Unfortunately, will probably be dismissed like all other criticism from those who observe the world differently.

  18. PaulH says:

    Much the same criticisms could be directed at the CBC, the government controlled Canadian equivalent of the BBC.

  19. AnonyMoose says:

    I wonder at what point the BBC will stop getting recognized as journalists in the US… or the UK, if the UK starts licensing journalists.
    http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/12/08/1558233/bloggers-not-journalists-federal-judge-rules

  20. Spector says:

    RE: Main Article
    “* Third, it has betrayed the fundamental principles of science, which relies on unrelenting scepticism towards any theory until it can be shown to provide a comprehensive explanation for the observed evidence.”

    The proponents of ‘Fear-Forced’ (‘Post Normal’) ‘Science’ claim they have this covered by saying that the dire consequences predicted by this theory pose such an immediate emergency, that we cannot delay taking timely action because this risk far outweighs the impact of taking action unnecessarily, should the theory prove to be false, even if this includes a massive world-wide depression and, perhaps, a global killing famine.

    REF: YouTube video entitled “The Most Terrifying Video You’ll Ever See” (2007)

  21. crosspatch says:

    Smokey says:
    December 8, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    Britain becoming more conservative

    Funny how cultures become more “conservative” when they run out of other people’s money.

  22. J. Felton says:

    It’s no secret that BBC stands for ” Bigoted BroadCasting.”

  23. crosspatch says:

    I wonder at what point the BBC will stop getting recognized as journalists in the US… or the UK, if the UK starts licensing journalists.

    That is already happening in the US sort of, for all practical purposes. According to a judge’s ruling in a US District Court a blogger can’t be a journalist:

    Hernandez found Cox failed to present evidence that she had any media credentials or affiliation with a “recognized news entity,” or that she had checked her facts or tried to contact the other side to “get both sides of the story.”

    If you have no “media credentials” (uhm, who issues those?) and have no affiliation with a “recognized news entity” and (most importantly in this case) if you don’t get “both sides of the story” the constitutional protections for a free press do not apply to you because you are not a “journalist”.

    According to this definition, Benjamin Franklin was not “the press”.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/09/usa-blogger-ruling-idUSN1E7B70UA20111209

    That ruling is absolutely outrageous.

  24. Al Gored says:

    PaulH says:
    December 8, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    “Much the same criticisms could be directed at the CBC, the government controlled Canadian equivalent of the BBC.”

    Or worse since they provide Suzuki with a permanent taxpayer funded soapbox.

    On the other hand, they somehow let Rex Murphy into the building and now he’s too popular among Canadians to muzzle or dump. Here’s his latest beautiful must watch heresy:

    http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows/The_National/Rex_Murphy/1275870718/ID=2172735930

    I definitely do not see anything like this on the BBC. It is a total joke. I wonder if they can even tell the truth about sport scores. And the BBC’s Richard Black is a real disgrace. Little more than a Greenpeace stenographer.

  25. crosspatch says:

    By the way, anyone know who started the very first “journalism” school? It was Eboreg R. Yrr (ROT 13 so as not to give it away unless you go to rot13.com and decode it). Yes, THAT Eboreg R. Yrr!

  26. Smokey says:

    Totally agree w/crosspatch. However, Ms Cox defended herself without an attorney. Extremely foolish. But the article says other attorneys have offered her their services in her appeal. And I think someone should give that attorney a hanky for his last statement so he can wipe away his crocodile tears.

  27. Dave says:

    All the public broadcasters TV and radio empires are shaped by the same socialist elitist mold, all are paid for by the taxpayers and all are as bad ,bent and twisted as each other.
    To name a few I have had experience with while living in different parts of the world.
    1: The BBC – UK
    2: ABC – Australia
    3: CBC – Canada
    I have loved and enjoyed the privilege of living and working in all these country’s but the Public broadcasters stink with their one sided dogma.
    I;m sure there are many more.

  28. Frank says:

    “also would add that this politicization has permeated the leadership of professional societies including the American Geophysical Union”
    Unfortunately not enough people are serving notice to the societies and propagandists; more people need to quit/cancel and make certain they know why. So far I have quit/cancelled:
    Scientific American
    Popular Science
    National Geographic
    Newsweek
    Cable TV
    and membership in
    The National Society of Professional Engineers
    The American Society of Heating, Refrigerating and Air-Conditioning Engineers

  29. Dave says:

    Al Gored says:
    December 8, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    PaulH says:
    December 8, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    “Much the same criticisms could be directed at the CBC, the government controlled Canadian equivalent of the BBC.”

    Or worse since they provide Suzuki with a permanent taxpayer funded soapbox.

    On the other hand, they somehow let Rex Murphy into the building and now he’s too popular among Canadians to muzzle or dump. Here’s his latest beautiful must watch heresy:

    http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/Shows/The_National/Rex_Murphy/1275870718/ID=2172735930

    I couldn’t agree with you more Rex Murphy is a Canadian National treasure and a straight shooter, thank god. he is the only decent even handed guy in the whole CBC TV and Radio.
    He is the direct opposite of that Hypocritical doom and gloomer David Suzuki the high flying 5 million mile a year save the planet dips###t!

  30. King of Cool says:

    Sir Antony Jay is right when he says:

    “if the BBC is to be paid to propagate the opinions of a liberal elite minority, it should not be allowed to dominate the national airwaves as it does today. Its voice should
    be heard, but it should not be allowed to drown out the others.”

    But I do not agree with his solution:

    “No, what really needs changing is the size of the BBC. All we need from it is
    one television channel and one speech radio station – Radio 4, in effect.”

    Not quite sure whether Brits HAVE to pay for the BBC but they do for the Australian Broadcasting Corporation – which exactly replicates BBC policies on global warming – through general taxation.

    In my opinion “User Pay” is the only solution. To me it is totally abhorrent that one should be forced to pay for a culture that continually propagates one sided views devoid of arguments that you would like to see presented – no matter what the size of the organisation.

    I do not want the opposite as above all, to thine own self be true. If our arguments can be shown to be false so be it, we must accept the facts. But I strongly suspect that if the ABC’s (and BBC’s?) budget becomes dependent on voluntary subscription that we would soon find a balance of all views and I suspect that its size would not have to be severely cut.

    However in the end, sooner or later, the truth will out and some-one who presents only one side of the argument is going to have a giant sized omelette on their face.

  31. go short says:

    When you think of the people who support global warming and you realize that they object to nuclear power right there you know something is wrong with their thinking. WATTSUPWITHTHAT.COM?

  32. David says:

    Smokey says:
    December 8, 2011 at 7:32 pm
    Totally agree w/crosspatch. However, Ms Cox defended herself without an attorney. Extremely foolish…”

    Yes foolish, but it should not have been. Judges should give lay people representing themselfs, far more legal protection and counsel. (Assuming the idea is justice, not protecting some vague nuance of the law on what is admissiable or not, etc etc etc). Instead they act like they have broken some secret club rule and willingly hand out clearly unfair rulings. This judge should have done all possible to protect the first amendment, weather it was argued or not. He should have made the arguements in his decison a good constitutional layer would have made.

  33. albertalad says:

    The BBC is far from the only British betrayer – now a freedom of information request filed by Mr. Matthew Sinclair of the U.K. Taxpayers’ Alliance found that the British government had given Calgary-based Pembina Institute $14,300 for a March report called “Reducing Pollution, Creating Jobs” that found the Conservative government’s Economic Action Plan would have created an extra 150,000 jobs if it had invested more in green industries.

    In the long-term, the report found, a shift away from fossil-fuel industries, such as the Alberta oil sands, and toward green industries would create more jobs than would be lost. Along with the report, the British high commission spent another $14,000 on a “Thought Forum” in 2009 that “highlight[ed] energy efficiency and renewable technology opportunities” and another $9,500 to help the institute host cap-and-trade discussions between Canadian environmental groups and energy companies.

    This is deliberate British interference in Canada’s internal affairs. The British government are SCUM BAGS – THIS is how the Brits pay back the tens of thousands of Canadians who lost their lives defending that ignorant nation.

  34. johanna says:

    The report is a great read – and Sir Anthony Jay’s introduction, where he talks about his time working for the BBC, sets the scene perfectly.

    As others have commented, a lot of this could be applied to other public broadcasters. It certainly fits Australia’s ABC like a glove. The mindset and the techniques used to push their line are identical. In the case of the ABC, it is not just climate ideology, but a much broader ‘environmentalist’ line which treats the pronouncements of Greenpeace, WWF et al as holy writ, and this has been the case since long before the climate issue was high on the agenda.

    Along the way, they have pushed a broadly anti-capitalist and specifically anti-business agenda without a trace of shame. They have many hours of ‘nature’ and ‘lifestyle’ programs which run green Left agendas, and less than 5 hours a week of business coverage on the main TV network, for example.

    The latest batch of Climategate emails was not mentioned at all until it became unavoidable, and then received a snippet on the website for a day, before sinking without trace. However, they have set up a whole portal on coal seam gas extraction, which predictably is full of errors and alarmist claims about environmental Armageddon, which they now claim to be ‘examining’ after complaints were lodged. No-one is holding their breath waiting for corrections, let alone retractions.

    The scariest thing about the report is the observation that most journalists lack intellectual curiosity – not to mention being unconcerned about informing themselves on the basics of large and ongoing issues they report on. The average WUWT reader and poster would leave them for dead on both counts, and not just on climate issues. They don’t do even the most elementary research, and despite being believers in various things, don’t seem to want to know anything about them that is not served up in predigested form (such as via a press release). That is very depressing indeed.

    No wonder the MSM consistently only picks upon big themes and stories after the hard work has been done by bloggers. And therefore, no wonder they are steadily losing influence and credibility as well as sales.

  35. TomRude says:

    Talking about scientists making political waves:
    http://www.straight.com/article-560591/vancouver/ndp-leadership-candidate-thomas-mulcair-backs-cap-and-trade-gains-andrew-weavers-endorsement

    “(…) First up, he was flanked by Andrew Weaver, Canada research chair in climate modelling at the University of Victoria. Weaver was endorsing Mulcair’s leadership, mainly because the Outremont MP and former Quebec environment minister announced today (December 8) that he will push for a cap-and-trade system nationwide if he wins the leadership race to replace the late Jack Layton.
    Weaver noted on climate change, “We’ve spent a lot of time over the years talking about the problem, and when we have leadership like this, I think it’s very important to support them, and that’s why I am here today.”

    Mulcair responded, “Professor Weaver’s endorsement of my leadership campaign is one of the most important elements to date.”

    Then Mulcair roundly criticized the Conservative government’s inaction on the issue, before he got down to the business at hand, outlining the ways that his plan for cap-and-trade differed from the federal Liberals’ carbon-tax proposal under Stéphane Dion’s tenure. (…)”

    ===
    The line is crossed and has been crossed a long time ago…

  36. crosspatch says:

    This is deliberate British interference in Canada’s internal affairs.

    How is this possible? Last time I looked Queen Elizabeth II was still officially head of state in Canada.

  37. bushbunny says:

    Yes and those who want a cap n’ trade are in purely for the $$’s. Nothing to do with saving the environment and climate change at all.

  38. bushbunny says:

    Deliberate British interference in Canada’s internal affairs? Queen Elizabeth II like in Australia is the Queen of Canada. She has no influence on any countries internal affairs, I have a letter from her to prove it. When she visits the union jack is beside the maple leaf out of respect. Gosh after Prince Phillips announcement, wind mills were a waste of time and money and ineffective, maybe that’s what they mean. Especially as one blew up during a savage storm in Scotland recently.

  39. albertalad says:

    crosspatch says:
    December 8, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    This is deliberate British interference in Canada’s internal affairs.

    How is this possible? Last time I looked Queen Elizabeth II was still officially head of state in
    Canada.
    —————
    This has nothing to do with the Queen – she isn’t that stupid – the Cameron government IS that dumb.

  40. davidmhoffer says:

    Australia (ABC), Britain (BBC) and Canada (CBC).

    They all have two things in common.
    1. They are all corporations.
    2. They are all broadcasters.

    Now think it over. What in a primitive society was broadcasting?

    Well, that’s where they tried to stop volcanoes from erupting by throwing broads into them. Despite there being no evidence that it worked, they just figured they weren’t throwing enough broads in and ramped it up.

    Its all gone high tech now of course, everything is “virtual”, even money is virtual, and climate science, well that’s just virtual broadcasting…

  41. Christopher Hanley says:

    I haven’t had a chance to read the whole report as yet, but a bit about an email exchange concerning how an interview in the proposed BBC documentary Meltdown: A Global Warming Journey (2006) was a complete setup with the interviewer (Paul Rose, a scientist) and interviewee simply performing acting roles, is at the same time scandalous and hilarious:

  42. Phillip Bratby says:

    Christopher Booker is the UKs outstanding investigative reporter – sheer brilliance and a brilliant report.

    Mustn’t forget James Delingpole, who is coming along brilliantly.

  43. Myrrh says:

    Great report, filled in some gaps I didn’t know about and written with such skill the events over the time span flowed and didn’t become a jumbled mess of the spaghetti graph.

    The mystery as to why the BBC should have made this the main news of the day
    only deepened when it emerged that Field was not a climate scientist at all, but
    a professor of biology in an ecology department. To promote its cause, the BBC
    website even posted a video explaining how global warming would be made
    much worse than forecast by ‘negative feedback’. ‘Negative feedback’, of
    course, reduces temperatures rather than raising them. This elementary howler
    inspired such a gale of derision from Watts Up With That that the BBC had to pull
    hurriedly the video off its website.

    Now, if only he’d dared to go against the consensus and split his infinitives..

  44. bill says:

    The BBC is deeply cunning. For years it has been loathed by UK conservatives for its relentless Leftiness. So when Labour was in power, the BBCs occasionally mild criticisms of that shameful epoch in our island story were met with cries of “Fascists” etc from the Labour Party. So the BBC, with a smirk, could say, “see, all sides hate us, proves we’re neutral after all, doesn’t it?” Um, well, no actually.

  45. Soren F says:

    Just technically, media once having learned about false equivalence first got it right, not to ‘invite and hear any crank’, then got it wrong again when ruling out that also the mainstream can turn out to have been the crank.

    A second baby in the climate bathwater other than environment: objectivity.

  46. charles nelson says:

    Throughout the 1990s the BBC timed Global Warming stories to coincide with spells or warm or hot weather. In commercial radio this is called an ‘ice-cream’ package, the ad is only aired when the temperature goes above an agreed figure.
    Given the fact that there must be archives for say Radio 1…and of course central london Temp records…it would be fascinating to run them side by side and see if there was a conspiracy to further ‘the Cause’.
    My recollection was that the placement of Warmist Scare stories was blatant and unsubtle.
    When the weather was cool and wet (ie most of the time) there was never a peep about global warming.
    Global Warming sold like Icecream to the gullible masses…that’s what first alerted me to the Fraud.

  47. Red Etin says:

    USA Citizens! You are fortunate that the BBC was not in existence when you were trying to establish your right to Independence. The BBC has adopted such a biased position on Scotland’s that it has become subject to widespread ridicule throughout Scotland.

    http://www.newsnetscotland.com/index.php/contact-us?cid=5

  48. Larry in Texas says:

    I have a friend, a former client of mine (Director of the Dallas Office of Environmental Quality) who was working on an issue related to air control who got a call from BBC World News Service to ask her what she thought was going to be some questions related to the subject she was working on. She was rather put off by the person who called her, because the person seemed more interested in asking questions that advanced the person’s agenda, rather than asking questions about the subject my client knew about. She ended up cutting the interview short rather than going off on a rabbit trail.

    This has been something I have known about the BBC for a long time. They have an agenda, and it is not an agenda to report on what is going on in the world. It makes me question whether the BBC is trustworthy on ANY issue of public importance, much less AGW.

  49. Old Goat says:

    Biased Broadcasting Cabal…. to go with the others here.

  50. John Marshall says:

    I have just received a reply to my complaint to the BBC about the alarmist and biased program Frozen Planet, the final episode. Their reply was the usual, We always use best material with accurate non biased reporting. But I was allowed to reply, which I did with some facts from your excellent site. These facts will fall on deaf ears.

  51. Brian H says:

    dmh;
    Casting broads into volcanoes? Not tea bags, if somewhat crude and in-apropos.

    IAC, the progressivistization of broadcasting is no happenstance. It is quite deliberate, and quite potent. Same with the takeover of foundations, faculty, bureaucratic admin posts, professional society executive offices, etc., etc. Anyone who believes otherwise just rode into town on a turnip truck.

  52. John Marshall says:

    I have just received a failure notice for the reply to the BBC, (post above).

    So they leave a reply space which does not get delivered. Well done BBC one way to get rid of complaints. B*****DS.

  53. Brian H says:

    BTW, for those not familiar with Anthony Jay, Booker’s co-author, years ago he wrote a classic piece Confessions of a BBC Liberal. It ranges beyond the Beeb and makes some very astute observations about the world-view underlying liberal self-righteousness.

  54. Shevva says:

    I’ll re-post my comment I left at Bishop Hill as it is relevant to the discussion :-

    BBC and it’s press office respond :- http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/dec/08/frozen-planet-nigel-lawson-criticism

    Some OU guy has the skinny on the reason Frozen planet was right :- http://www8.open.ac.uk/platform/news-and-features/the-science-behind-climate-change-explained

    Here’s a taster ‘Longer summers with no ice are probably the main reason why many polar bear populations are dropping.’

    I’ll let the experts laugh, point or shake their head.

    ———————————————————————————————————————

    The final episode of Frozen Planet was all about climate change but was criticised by Nigel Lawson for it’s science, the BBC made a report to counter Nigel Lawson but did not release it but somehow the print version of the BBC the Guardian managed to get hold of a copy (ho-ho-ho), the BBC always quote the guardian and they are BFF’s.

    And don’t worry the Discovery channel are now going to show all 7 episodes rather than 6 in the US but it will be Alec Baldwin instead of David Attenborough.

  55. Ralph says:

    My letter to the BBC complaints department, and to Westminster Parliament.

    .

    Re: BBC Frozen Planet and BBC Disinformation

    Sir/Madam,

    It is intolerable that a public funded body like the BBC, that is required to be impartial, should give such a one-sided cacophony of bias and propaganda as last night’s Frozen Planet episode. The Warmist religion’s bias and disinformation flowed like the champaign in the BBC boardroom.

    Here are a few of the ‘Inconvenient Truths’ that the Frozen Planet episodes did not tell viewers.

    Antarctic sea ice is increasing.
    Antarctic temperatures are decreasing.
    Total energy of hurricanes is decreasing.
    Total number of large hurricanes effecting the USA is at a historic low.
    Total number of F4 and F5 tornadoes is decreasing.
    Total snowfall in the N Hemisphere is increasing.
    There has been no global warming in the last 13 years.
    Total deaths from extreme events is decreasing (despite greater populations).

    See the enclosed graphs (below).

    And blaming this bias and disinformation on this merely being Mr Attenborough’s ‘personal views’ is not an acceptable excuse. The BBC know they have had some criticism in the past, and so they merely got their pet monkey (Mr Attenborough) to do their dirty work for them. This is totally unacceptable, and the BBC should be closed down.

    Better still – 40% of BBC funding should go to Channel 4. As you know, Channel 4 is wholly owned by the government, and its alternative editorial style could act as a significant counter-weight to the power and bias of the BBC (both the BBC’s Warmist bias and its Political bias).

    Sincerely,
    Ralph.

  56. Shevva says:

    And if you would like an insiders view of the BBC try :-

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350206/BBC-propaganda-machine-climate-change-says-Peter-Sissons.html

    Who worked there for decades.

  57. Kelvin Vaughan says:

    I was watching the BBC News the other morning and they were interviewing Richard Attenborough about his programme Frozen Planet. The interviewers were trying to get him to say that the poles were melting due to AGW. He replied the program dosen’t take sides, it’s impartial and is just showing what is happening. The interviewer immediately replied ” Yes we must be impartial at the BBC”. I nearly choked on my breakfast!

  58. Vince Causey says:

    This is an excellent report by Booker, and it does link into the climategate 2 emails, which show a very close relationship between the “Team” and BBC journalists. It is beyond doubt that in reality, the BBC is part of the team – the equivalent of Pravda in the USSR. There is no doubt that they regularly sit around the metaphorical table together, to investigate how the Beeb can “put the message accross.”

    In the documentary “Meltdown – A global warming journey” (2006), they present a story about a scientist (Paul Rose) who “used to be a skeptic.” Rose is presented as an impartial scientist who is skeptical of global warming, but is taken through a journey where in the end, he “is convinced by the weight of evidence.”

    This is an old story line in literature – a bad guy, or flawed character is pushed through a series of trials until he undergoes a transformation. In fact, it is such a common literary device, that on hearing this, one is inclined to dismiss it as fanciful.

    But on page 70 of the Booker report we read the following:
    “He [the producer] explained[to Keith Briffa] that his presenter Paul Rose, a scientist, was going to pose as someone dubious about the warming theory because he was troubled by
    talk of the Medieval Warm Period and the Little Ice Age.” In other words, Paul Rose is a trojan horse. The narrative then continues with:
    “What Renouf wanted was a sequence in which Briffa would explain how climate history had been dramatically rewritten by Mann’s ‘hockey stick’ graph, all but eliminating the MWP and showing how in recent years, in a way which could only be due to man-made global warming, temperatures had soared to levels quite unprecedented in the past 1,000 years.”

    So the Beeb plan to feed the line that the Mannian hockey stick is gospel truth, showing how temperatures had soared in recent years. No mention at all of the numerous peer reviewed literature debunking this study as seriously flawed. But, we are now at the point in the movie where our hero is suddenly convinced of the truth. The producer tells Briffa:
    “to “prove” to Paul that what we’re experiencing now is NOT just another of those natural fluctuations we’ve seen in the past. The hockey stick curve is a crucial piece of evidence because it shows how abnormal the present period is – the present warming is unprecedented in speed and amplitude, something like that. This is a very big moment in the film when Paul is finally convinced of the reality of man made global warming.” (Keith Briffa never, actually took part in the movie, but his role was played by another actor.)

    Any pro-AGW supporter should be well pleased with the Beeb’s (ho ho) impartiallity, shouldn’t they? After all, they just scripted a documentary into a work of fiction. In fact, the recent 2011 report by Professor Steve Jones came to the opposite conclusion – the Beeb is far too impartial and must stamp even harder on non orthodox opinions:
    “Jones thus made clear that he was about to take a very stern line against giving any credibility at all to those who dissented from the ‘consensus’ on global warming. Repeatedly speaking contemptuously of ‘deniers’, ‘denialists’ and ‘denialism’, he compared this ‘deluded minority’ not just to believers in astrology and quack medicine but to those who believed that the 9/11 terrorist attacks were ‘a US government plot’.”

    Remember, this was written in 2011, not 2006. The Beeb are as firmly imbedded in the “bubble” now, as before, and nothing will ever shake them out of it.

  59. Antony says:

    Speaking as a Brit, the only way to change the blatant BBC bias will be through the courts. The BBC is not funded through general taxation but from the “License Fee”, which is, in effect, a tax on owning a television.

    This fee is collected via the BBC’s bully boys – TV Licensing operated by Capita, via ever more threatening letters and deliberately menacing doorstep visits to none-payers. If one chooses not to own a TV, you HAVE to tell them repeatedly to avoid said scare tactics above.

    I do own a TV however do not pay the license fee. The BBC is governed by a Royal Charter, which places in writing the onus on the BBC to be impartial. To be in breach of a Royal Charter is an act of Treason. So, by paying the fee, I would be partaking in an act of Treason. As a former soldier that is obviously not on.

    I have written to both the BBC Trust, the Head of the BBC and to Capita highlighting these Treasonous acts, and begged them to take me to court. To date, I have heard nothing and as such save myself £145.50 a year. Not much, but it all helps.

    However, the fact that I have heard nothing speaks volumes. People in the UK are taken to court for none-payment and are fined. But the only reason why is through their own ignorance and fear and the need to “do the right thing”.

    Complaints to the BBC go through the whitewash hand wringer and will have no effect whatsoever. Money is the only way to beat them.

  60. Obie says:

    Rational Debate
    You might find the folowing a bit interesting on the subject of the BBC,s pension fund.
    http://biased-bbc.blogspot.com/2010/02/fingers-in-pies.html

  61. Cathy says:

    But how to explain two British quantum physicists shilling for the ‘science’ of global warming. Even to the extent of referring to warming skeptics as ‘f-ing’ troglodytes.
    http://www.newstatesman.com/scitech/2011/12/interview-science-cox-physics

  62. Spector says:

    RE: Antony: (December 9, 2011 at 6:15 am)
    “Speaking as a Brit, the only way to change the blatant BBC bias will be through the courts. The BBC is not funded through general taxation but from the ‘License Fee’, which is, in effect, a tax on owning a television.”

    I assume there is no rating service in the UK to pay broadcasters in proportion to which they attract an audience. Even in that case, however, there may be an advantage to sensationalism as opposed to common sense reporting. I do expect the BBC would have a very dim view of being required to compete for funding with a UK equivalent of Fox News.

  63. waterside4 says:

    Here in Scotland, we had winds of eight clubs (10 yards per iron) yesterday which precluded our usual game at Carnoustie. This allowed me to watch the BBC report that a windmill had died in Berwickshire due to 50 mph winds on Wednesday. Then I saw on the net that another one had conflagrated, but the fire brigade had put the flames out (at 200 feet ???)
    But the story which really caught my eye was a report from a Quasi Unelected Autonomous Non Govermental Organisation called the Audit Office (a QUANGO), telling me that in order to meet Scotlands commitments to reduce Man Made Global Warming, we would need to spend in ‘excess of £11 billion by 2020 to achieve a 42% reduction in (and I quote) “pollution”. Of course this is even more laughable than Australias attempts to stop run-a-way Global Warming.
    A rough calculation shows that this is £5000 for every man woman and child in a pretend counrty like Scotland. This is in addition to all the green taxes we already pay in the UK.
    At the same time we had a numpty ‘environment’ correspondent on BBC Scotland last night standing on a hill in an 80 MPH wind telling us that we could expect more of this – due to Climate Change – as he did a link to the Durban gabfest where we were basically told we were all doomed unless we repented our sins and asked for forgieviness for global warming.
    If readers think the the London BBC is biased, they should try watching the bastardised Scottish version.

  64. Gail Combs says:

    bushbunny says:
    December 8, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    …….They have invested a substantial amount of their pension fund in carbon credits, and probably clean energy….. This is turning out to be a good day for once, I just passed my diploma in agricultural (organic) agriculture. Mainly concentrating on sustainable farming methodology. It was hard, and I’ve been 3 years at it, and two years before to get my Cert IV in the same discipline. Oh the message is we need carbon and carbon dioxide for fertility of the soil, and the health of stock.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    CONGRATULATIONS

    I would love to have a nice long chat with you to pick your brains.

  65. Gail Combs says:

    AnonyMoose says:
    December 8, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    I wonder at what point the BBC will stop getting recognized as journalists in the US… or the UK, if the UK starts licensing journalists.
    http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/12/08/1558233/bloggers-not-journalists-federal-judge-rules
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    WOW!
    That is a good one because BBC is a big FAIL as are most other news agencies! The bold areas are where the BBC and others fail and become “Propaganda”

    Law on Line has an analysis of the Oregon decision: http://bloglawonline.blogspot.com/2011/12/explaining-that-decision-in-oregon.html

    …Defendant fails to bring forth any evidence suggestive of her status as a journalist. For example, there is no evidence of

    (1) any education in journalism;

    (2) any credentials or proof of any affiliation with any recognized news entity;

    (3) proof of adherence to journalistic standards such as editing, fact-checking, or disclosures of conflicts of interest;

    (4) keeping notes of conversations and interviews conducted;

    (5) mutual understanding or agreement of confidentiality between the defendant and his/her sources;

    (6) creation of an independent product rather than assembling writings and postings of others; or

    (7) contacting “the other side” to get both sides of a story.

    Without evidence of this nature, defendant is not “media.”

    Now all we have to do is go after all the “Media” in the USA and have them demoted to the status of “Blogger” (Snicker)

  66. The official response from the BBC to my complaint of clear bias as shown in the CG2 emails:
    Dear Mr Grainger
    Reference CAS-1122509-VLM5VG
    Thanks for your e-mail.
    We appreciate you contacting us with your concerns about an e-mail written by Alex Kirby.
    We can confirm that Alex Kirby left the BBC in January 2005 and it wouldn’t be appropriate for the BBC to put any interpretation on comments in a personal e-mail.
    Please note we expect all our journalists to report impartially whether on air or online – and this requirement is enforced by our editors.
    However, we do note your concerns and would like to assure you that we’ve registered your complaint on our audience log. This is a daily report of audience feedback that’s made available to many BBC staff, including members of the BBC Executive Board, channel controllers and other senior managers.
    Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
    Kind Regards
    Leanne Bennett
    BBC Complaints
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints

  67. Gail Combs says:

    johanna says:
    December 8, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    …..The scariest thing about the report is the observation that most journalists lack intellectual curiosity – not to mention being unconcerned about informing themselves on the basics of large and ongoing issues they report on. The average WUWT reader and poster would leave them for dead on both counts, and not just on climate issues. They don’t do even the most elementary research, and despite being believers in various things, don’t seem to want to know anything about them that is not served up in predigested form (such as via a press release). That is very depressing indeed.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Yes this is truly scary since a free press is one of the legs upon which a free nation stands.

    Of course this was recognized early on and the press was co-oped to serve different masters than the general population quite early.

    The pillars of the liberal establishment—the press, the church, the university, labor and the Democratic Party (Chris Hedges)

    The Liberals are now actively vilifying Hedges BTW.

    Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and writer Chris Hedges, a graduate of Harvard Divinity School and a foreign correspondent for nearly two decades in Latin America, Africa, the Middle East, and the Balkans, writes and speaks extensively on war, religion, American culture, empire, and the conflict in the Middle East. He is the author of the bestseller War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning, a book that draws on the many conflicts he covered to explore what war does to societies and individuals….

    …..He is also the author of the bestseller Empire of Illusion: The End of Literacy and the Triumph of Spectacle, an examination of the illusions that beset American culture as it retreats into fantasy and severs itself from reality. In Death of the Liberal Class, he argues that the pillars of the liberal establishment – the press, liberal religious institutions, labor, public education, culture, and the Democratic Party – have surrendered to corporate interests or been so decimated as to become ineffectual, shutting down the possibility of incremental and piecemeal reform that is vital to the maintenance of a democratic state. His latest book is The World As It Is: Dispatches on the Myth of Human Progress…..

    Hedges has written for Foreign Affairs, Granta, The New Statesman, Harper’s, Mother Jones, The Nation, Adbusters, and The New York Review of Books. He writes a weekly column for Robert Scheer’s web magazine Truthdig.com and is a senior fellow at The Nation Institute. http://www.apbspeakers.com/speaker/chris-hedges

  68. Gail Combs says:

    Brian H says:
    December 9, 2011 at 2:53 am

    BTW, for those not familiar with Anthony Jay, Booker’s co-author, years ago he wrote a classic piece Confessions of a BBC Liberal. It ranges beyond the Beeb and makes some very astute observations about the world-view underlying liberal self-righteousness.
    ……….

    The link takes me to a piece: Britain is left alone in the new Europe

    “…In ten hours of fraught negotiations at an EU summit in Brussels overnight, the Prime Minister insisted that Britain would not allow the rewriting of EU treaties unless….”

    And my glimpse of the piece behind the paywall said “…including specific safeguards to protect the City of London….” Isn’t that the bankers? Specifically the Rothschilds????

    So the only people the Prime Minister of Britain is interested in protecting from the EU is the BANKERS????

    What a surprise /sarc>

  69. TomB says:

    What American reading this blog doesn’t thing replacing “BBC” with “NPR” or “NBC” wouldn’t make this report just as accurate?

  70. Gail Combs says:

    Antony says:
    December 9, 2011 at 6:15 am

    Speaking as a Brit, the only way to change the blatant BBC bias will be through the courts. The BBC is not funded through general taxation but from the “License Fee”, which is, in effect, a tax on owning a television.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Sounds like a darn good reason to do what I did. Toss the television. If you have kids tell them to get some exercise or do chores or read.

    There is no reason to have a propaganda tool in your house and PAY for it.

    I tossed mine in 1976 and have never regretted it. There is so much else that can be done with your time instead of staring at the populous pacifier.

  71. johanna says:

    Murray Grainger says:
    December 9, 2011 at 10:30 am

    The official response from the BBC to my complaint of clear bias as shown in the CG2 emails:
    Dear Mr Grainger
    Reference CAS-1122509-VLM5VG
    Thanks for your e-mail.
    We appreciate you contacting us with your concerns about an e-mail written by Alex Kirby.
    We can confirm that Alex Kirby left the BBC in January 2005 and it wouldn’t be appropriate for the BBC to put any interpretation on comments in a personal e-mail.
    Please note we expect all our journalists to report impartially whether on air or online – and this requirement is enforced by our editors.
    However, we do note your concerns and would like to assure you that we’ve registered your complaint on our audience log. This is a daily report of audience feedback that’s made available to many BBC staff, including members of the BBC Executive Board, channel controllers and other senior managers.
    Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.
    Kind Regards
    Leanne Bennett
    BBC Complaints
    ———————————————————————————————–
    I think you’ve been told, Murray – sod off, nothing to see here.

    What an extraordinary response – on one hand they dismiss your complaint because he’s not there any more, then they say that they enforce impartiality (ho, ho, ho) and finally they say that your complaint will be logged and the logs are provided to senior management. It is so contradictory and incoherent that I can only conclude that someone cut and pasted some sets of standard words, inserted your details, and sent it off.

    Arrogant barely begins to cover it. How stupid do they think people are?

  72. Ralph says:

    Here is the online form for making complaints about the BBC. And while this process is controlled by the BBC itself, they really do get rattled if they get 10,000 complaints about the same subject.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/?id=HTJSDON7TRJ6JO1E5FHCTK51B2#anchor\

    Get scribbling.

    .

  73. clipe says:

    cui bono says:
    December 8, 2011 at 5:37 pm
    Sorry – I should explain that ‘Yes Minister’ was a dry 80s satire on politicians and bureaucrats.

    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=yes+minister

  74. Spector says:

    I would presume that lack of bias would be a hard quality to prove and any attempt to really demonstrate this would lead a news organization down a rat’s maze of ‘politically correct’ reporting. Perhaps the only solution for this is to provide space on the dial for a multiplicity of popular ‘biases.’

  75. Spector says:

    BTW, the BBC reports Britain isolated from the EU for failing to accept subordination to overall EU regulation.

    BBC News – Is Britain now isolated in Europe?
    Uploaded by BBCNewsHeadlines on Dec 9, 2011
    4 likes, 0 dislikes; 88 views; 3:13 min
    “David Cameron has defended his decision to block an EU-wide treaty change to tackle the eurozone crisis, despite warnings it will leave the UK isolated. It looks likely that all 26 other members of the European Union will instead agree to a new “accord” setting out tougher budget rules. Labour said the UK would be left out of key decisions affecting its future. But the PM said the UK remained a “full and very influential member” of Europe on the issues that mattered to it.
    Gavin Hewitt reports..”

  76. The iceman cometh says:

    It is not just the BBC. A whole host of taxpayer-funded organisations is in on the act. At COP17, I heard the Hadley Centre pronouncing on the huge increase in violent weather events worldwide. I enquired if the results had been published – not yet, was the answer. I enquired if the data were available. There was a data set, but they had adapted it for the purpose, and would only release the adaptations AFTER publication of the paper. I have since pursued much of the detail of their claims, and they are just plain weak – amongst others, they chose just a few stations and used them to represent an area of 3.5 x 3.5 degrees. Have they cherry-picked the stations? I don’t know, because the stations are not identified. However, I have done my own assessment of some of the areas they claim to have assessed, and can find no pattern at all – stations with more violent storms over the past 80 years are close to stations with less violent storms; stations with increasing floods are next to stations with increasing drought. But the taxpayer has paid for the Hadley Centre to produce this tale, and for them to present it at COP17, and no doubt the tale is even now being brandished around as reason for urgent climate action. The BBC problem is actually far wider.

  77. Mardler says:

    Warning: no AGW content.

    UK PM, David Cameron, was absolutely correct to use the UK veto to stop the socialist EU attempting to tax London’s financial services (not just banks, many of whom weren’t part of the crredit crunch, btw) out of existence: France & Germany are quite open about their impatience to kill of London and replace it with Paris and Frankfurt. More fool then Chancellor Brown (socialist) for giving virtually all of the UK’s gold reserve to Frankfurt in 1997!

  78. bushbunny says:

    Happy Christmas Everyone, I will be signing off for a while as busy with the prep for
    Christmas, and see you soon.

    Bush bunny from Oz

  79. Brian H says:

    Gail Combes;
    It seems that the Sunday Times has instituted a quite-effective £2/wk paywall blocking access to that piece.
    But he seems to have duplicated the text here:
    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?118107-Confessions-of-a-BBC-liberal
    I repeat, well worth reading and saving.

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