New Climate Scare: Europe May be Facing Return Of 'Little Ice Age'

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Newsbytes from Dr. Benny Peiser of the Global Warming Policy Foundation

Britain should brace itself for another freezing winter with the return of La Niña, a climate phenomenon known to disrupt global weather, ministers have warned. The warning coincides with research from the Met Office suggesting Europe could be facing a return of the “little ice age” that gripped Britain 300 years ago, causing decades of bitter winters. The prediction, to be published in Nature, is based on observations showing a slight fall in the sun’s emissions of ultraviolet radiation, which over a long period may trigger mini ice ages in Europe. –Jonathan Leake, The Sunday Times, 9 October 2011

BRITAIN is set to suffer a mini ice age that could last for decades and bring with it a series of bitterly cold winters. And it could all begin within weeks as experts said last night that the mercury may soon plunge below the record -20C endured last year. Latest evidence shows La Nina, linked to extreme winter weather in America and with a knock-on effect on Britain, is in force and will gradually strengthen as the year ends. It coincides with research from the Met Office indicating the nation could be facing a repeat of the “little ice age” that gripped the country 300 years ago, causing decades of harsh winters. –Laura Caroe, Daily Express, 10 October 2011

Some scientists predict that the Sun is heading for a long slump in solar activity known as a Grand Solar Minimum. If this happens, it is possible that Britain could return to conditions similar to those 350 years ago when sunspots vanished during “the Little Ice Age”, when ice fairs were often held on the frozen Thames in London. –Paul Simons, The Times, 10 October 2011

Investment in more winter equipment may not be economical given rarity of British snow, says RAC Foundation chairman. The row over the need for a multimillion-pound investment in snowploughs, de-icing equipment and salt stocks deepened this morning with the publication of a government-backed report using Met Office predictions that successive hard winters are rare. Quarmby said the Met Office remained convinced that the severe cold snap is a one-off phenomenon. “We cannot say this is an annual event,” he said. –Dan Milmo, The Guardian, 23 December 2010

The Met Office is working with academics to try and predict the likelihood of severe winters over the next 20-30 years. The work aims to help transport authorities understand the risks of further severe winters after the coldest December since records began in 1910. But the work was criticised this week by Benny Peiser, director of the Global Warming Policy Foundation. “I would strongly advise not to rely on any 20-30 year winter forecasts,” he said. “The point is that nobody really understands the basic feedbacks and climate dynamics that drive annual winter variability, let alone that long in advance.” –Local Transport Today, 25 February 2011

In October 2009 the Met Office predicted a mild winter because of El Nino. Temperatures in December would be above average, they said. In reality  December temperatures were a whopping 1.1 degrees below the recent average. In 2010, contributing to the Quarmby Report, the Met Office advised to assume that the chance of a severe winter in 2010–11 is no greater (or less) than the current general probability of 1 in 20. Boy, were they wrong! Mean temperatures over the UK were 5.0 °C below average during December and 0.3 °C below average in January. –-David Whitehouse, The Observatory, 10 October 2011

The fact is that nobody knows if the forthcoming winter will be severe or mild. The only wise advice that can be given is to plan as if 2011 is going to be like the previous three winters, and one doesn’t need multi-million pound computers to make it. –-David Whitehouse, The Observatory, 10 October 2011

Snow is starting to disappear from our lives. Sledges, snowmen, snowballs and the excitement of waking to find that the stuff has settled outside are all a rapidly diminishing part of Britain’s culture, as warmer winters – which scientists are attributing to global climate change – produce not only fewer white Christmases, but fewer white Januaries and Februaries. According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia,within a few years winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event”. “Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,” he said. –The Independent, 20 March 2000

Green thinking represents a challenge to the status quo? That’s a laughable idea. From schools and universities to every corner of the Western political sphere, the climate-change outlook is the status quo. In fact, it’s the new conservatism. –Brendan O’Neil, The Australian, 8 October 2011

 

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Brian R
October 10, 2011 11:31 am

I can’t wait for the AGW group to claim that a “Little Ice-Age” is exactly what one should expect from a warming world.

Frank K.
October 10, 2011 11:33 am

“BRITAIN is set to suffer a mini ice age that could last for decades and bring with it a series of bitterly cold winters.”
But…but…climate’s not weather…and…cold follows hot…and hot follows cold…and all the models are consistent..they really ARE…hot or cold…so we recommend destroying the world economy…just in case CO2 is causing it to be hot…or cold…or both…or…the sun…maybe…[~~~~~cagw brain overload~~~~~]
\cagw

polistra
October 10, 2011 11:33 am

Eat ice, Phil Jones. Eat it hard and cold. Eat it forever, Phil Jones. I’ll feed it to you. I’ll pay my entire life savings to feed it to you through all available orifices.

Zac
October 10, 2011 11:33 am

It never ceases to amaze me when I look in an atlas to see how far north Britain is. Yet the climate is so temperate thanks to the Gulf stream.

Strick
October 10, 2011 11:36 am

Stunning, simply stunning. The world turned upside down.

Madman2001
October 10, 2011 11:38 am

“The warning coincides with research from the Met Office suggesting Europe could be facing a return of the “little ice age” that gripped Britain 300 years ago, causing decades of bitter winters. ”
Whew. I’m glad that the Met is predicting this: that means it’s bound NOT to happen!

MangoChutney
October 10, 2011 11:39 am

i thought co2 over-ruled everything

Pierre
October 10, 2011 11:39 am

So then even with the appearance recently of sunspots we are still looking at another Maunder min?

Hugh Davis
October 10, 2011 11:39 am

It’s going to be pretty grim here in Britain when 40% of our conventional power stations have been closed down under EU edicts, and Chris Huhne’s windmills stop spinning (as wind turbines always do in utra-cold anticyclonic winter weather).

richard telford
October 10, 2011 11:41 am

“that the chance of a severe winter in 2010–11 is no greater (or less) than the current general probability of 1 in 20. Boy, were they wrong!”
I don’t think David Whitehouse understands probabilities. If I predict that there is only a one in six chance of a six occurring when a fair die is rolled, am I incorrect when a six does occur?
Roger Peilke made the same mistake recently – discussed at http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/2011/08/roger-rabbit.html

Latitude
October 10, 2011 11:43 am

Did they really just say that warm is better??
That La Nina “disrupts” and is “linked to extreme weather”?
El Nino must be perfect weather then…………………..

stevo
October 10, 2011 11:43 am

[snip. “denial” is against site Policy. ~dbs, mod.]

PB-in-AL
October 10, 2011 11:44 am

yup, gorebull warming illustrated…. must be Bush’s fault.

October 10, 2011 11:44 am

…Benny Peiser, director of the Global Warming Policy Foundation. “I would strongly advise not to rely on any 20-30 year winter forecasts,” he said. “The point is that nobody really understands the basic feedbacks and climate dynamics that drive annual winter variability, let alone that long in advance.” …
erm, right. Tell me again about the IPeCaC models that ‘prove’ gullible warming is real and worse than we thought and what was is it ‘the majority of scientists’ have been saying about 3 extra degrees by 2050 based on models and forecasts?
Hesus wept.

Carly
October 10, 2011 11:45 am

This quote gave me giggle considering all the global warming forecasting that’s been going on:
“But the work was criticised this week by Benny Peiser, director of the Global Warming Policy Foundation. “I would strongly advise not to rely on any 20-30 year winter forecasts,” he said. “The point is that nobody really understands the basic feedbacks and climate dynamics that drive annual winter variability, let alone that long in advance.”

son of mulder
October 10, 2011 11:46 am

I shall prepare for a Barbeque Winter

kramer
October 10, 2011 11:46 am
3x2
October 10, 2011 11:46 am

Ah, more guess work from all.
What is worrying is that given HMG’s obsession with “global warming” and all things “green” it is doubtful that, even if we are in a “little ice age”, anything could be done. The shell game is so advanced that it could take decades to unwind.

October 10, 2011 11:46 am

“I would strongly advise not to rely on any 20-30 year winter forecasts,” he said. “The point is that nobody really understands the basic feedbacks and climate dynamics that drive annual winter variability, let alone that long in advance.”
Really? If I said the same thing about global warming forecasts that predict doom and apocalypse, I’d be struck down as a “denier” or some other such attack.

kramer
October 10, 2011 11:48 am

I caught the following link from Steve Goddard’s real-science site a while ago. I keep wondering if the researchers in the article are right…
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=aJpjAAAAIBAJ&sjid=N3wDAAAAIBAJ&pg=6824,139587&dq=global+warming&hl=en

Dave Springer
October 10, 2011 11:48 am

Should all this purported anthropogenic CO2 warming guarantee that things like the LIA won’t repeat themselves? Har har hardy har har.
I’ve been trying to explain for quite some time that loss of arctic sea ice is a harbinger of cold times ahead. Sea ice insulates the water beneath. Once that ice is gone and the arctic ocean is exposed to the frigid cold of outer space with nothing but thin dry air in the way it will lose the heat it picked up in the tropics like a mofo on steroids. Teh far more quickly chilled water then sinks to the bottom and begins it’s journey back to the tropics. The oceanic conveyor belt thus speeds up. Normally this would be a self-limiting phenomenon but the travel time for the conveyor belt is several years so there’s inertia in it. If you get something that causes short term intra-annual cooling (such as a volcanic eruption, and/or a solar grand minimum, and/or back-to-back La Nina, and/or AMDO going negative) and that combines with the inertial cooling inherent in substantial loss of multi-year sea ice, then you have a formula for some cold times ahead. Add on top of that the Milankovich Cycle being in prime territory for glacial dominance and you have a formula for the sudden ending of interglacial periods. Runaway warming isn’t possible due to negative feedback from clouds but runaway cooling is quite possible, has happened many times before, and the earth IS in an ice age at the present time.
So what I want to know from the climate boffins is exactlty how much CO2 we need to inject into the atmosphere to make things like the Little Ice Age a practical impossibility in the future.

Bloke down the pub
October 10, 2011 11:49 am

I’m aware of the misery that an harsh winter can cause, never the less I hope we get it as it will make more people question the BS they are being fed on cagw.

More Soylent Green!
October 10, 2011 11:50 am

Seems to me I heard something like this before. I think it was in 1978 or thereabouts.

Iggy Slanter
October 10, 2011 11:51 am

Revenge is a dish best shoved down your opponents’ face with a cold shovel.
Sorry. I’m in one of those moods.

October 10, 2011 11:51 am

BrianR
I can’t wait for the AGW group to claim that a “Little Ice-Age” is exactly what one should expect from a warming world.
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“Co-author Professor Joanna Haigh, from the Department of Physics at Imperial College London, whose research in atmospheric physics laid the groundwork for this study, said: “Compared with the effect of man-made emissions over the last century, solar variations still have a very minor effect on long-term global climate trends, but this study shows they may have a detectable influence on winter climate’.
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Yep Brian – they seem to be heading that way already !
Solar/UV only affects weather in the Northern Hemisphere during winter, it seems – the rest of the time it makes no difference at all anywhere else !

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