Photos: No Carbon Tax rally in Australia

From the Facebook account of Ruth Bonnett, these photos taken March 23rd in Brisbane, QLD

Link to interactive album below:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=307296&id=633636676&l=355ec5b242

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44 Responses to Photos: No Carbon Tax rally in Australia

  1. Thumbnail says:

    Hot day both young and old there. Gillard needs to go. This tax will destroy jobs and keep the UN in business

  2. Dan says:

    The Brisbane pictures look impressive, there must have been literally dozens of people there compared to the 10,000 that showed for a rally for action on climate change.
    http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/thousands-protest-on-climate-change-20100815-12506.html

  3. Al Gored says:

    From Dan’s article:

    “In Sydney, Al Gore’s Climate Project presenter, Nell Schofield, attracted huge cheers when she said Australia’s lack of political action on climate change was “not only embarrassing, it is morally reprehensible”.”

    All those quoted were the usual suspects. They are good at flash mobbing and whatnot and generally well organized at rallying their crusaders so numbers are rather meaningless. Would get more if they implied Justin Beiber would be there.

  4. Binny says:

    The majority of people who are against this tax have jobs and commitments.
    They simply don’t have the time to attend a street protests.
    They normally do their protesting at the ballot box.
    Something Gillard will find out at the next election and this time they won’t be fooled by her lies.
    Personally I would be very surprised if the independents pass this tax without telling Gillard to take it to an election.

  5. Bulldust says:

    Dan:
    I think that is more a reflection that most sceptics have other committments in their lives like jobs, famililes, social committments etc. Add to that the fact that the left-wing groups are far more organised and can drum up thousands of students and union hacks at short notice, then that’s what you get. It was the same in Perth – probably 100-200 sceptics at Parliament steps (inluding Jo Nova, David Evans, Matt & Janet Thompson, etc). I imagine the left-wingers drummed up substantially more numbers for their pro-tax rally.

    It is a shame that the Canberra banners were so abusive – I think that lessened the tone of the rally:

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/climate/carbon-tax-protesters-labelled-extremists-as-they-rally-in-canberra/story-e6frg6xf-1226026906087

    Note the media’s obsession with associating the rally with extremeist groups in an effort to trivilise the sceptics rally. More interesting to note is the “do you support a carbon tax?” poll at the SMH:

    http://ninemsn.com.au/

    Currently 17,743 ayes and 87,533 nayes…

  6. James P says:

    The protests around the capitals of Australia were great.
    3,000 to 4,000 in the capital, Canberra. 800 to 1000 or so in Melbourne. 300 to 400 each in Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide.

    The numbers are not big, but they are a start, and remember, these are conservatives. We do not as a matter of course publicly protest. It is not in our DNA. These rallies will not stop. The Leftwing has finally gone too far and has awoken the usually slumbering conservatives of Australia. We are waking up to you and we are damn angry.

    This government will fall because of its perfidy as a result of this. It might take 3 to 6 or maybe even 12 months or so, but the Australian government will fall as a result of this.

  7. Mike Jonas says:

    There was a fair turnout at the Canberra rally today (I was there but have no connection with the organisers). Attendance estimates ranged from 1,500 (police estimate) to 4,000 (organisers’ estimate). The major theme was that Julia Gillard very clearly and emphatically promised during the election campaign not to introduce a carbon tax. Without that lie, she would not be prime minister now. Other themes were that the tax would damage Australia’s economy by driving jobs overseas, and that Australia cutting GHG emissions would make no difference to global temperatures. Climate science got some attention, and there were clearly plenty of protesters who had been following the science. A lot of people attending were clearly not at all wealthy, and were desperate to prevent the government from recklessly putting up their cost of living.
    http://www.nocarbontaxrally.com/no_carbon_tax_rally.html
    The website http://www.cata.net.au has been registered but is not up yet.
    The next rally is in Sydney: Sat 2 April 2011, 10:30am Sydney Town Hall, 483 George Street, Sydney
    http://www.nocarbontax.com.au/
    http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=157039054351740
    Get Up are putting on a pro-tax rally and expecting to outnumber the anti-tax rally.

  8. tango says:

    I was at the CANBERRA rally today 23rd and over 3500 where there it is only the thin edge of the wedge all go from here

  9. URKidding says:

    One of our news programs dedicated about 5 minutes to the Canberra rally.

    The crowd was reported at around 2000 to 3000, a pretty good turn out.

    While there were people from all age groups represented, I was surprised to see such a relatively large number of our Senior Citizens, aged 70+, in attendance. Many were also carrying posters etc: “Ditch The Witch” is one that stuck in my mind. Poetic stuff.

    While many were conventionally dressed, I was however, slightly amused at the number of people participating in the rally, who, for some unknown reason, wore a cone made from cardboard secured over their nose by a piece of elastic. There was also a gentleman (I assume, given the tone of his voice), with said cardboard cone but wearing a red wig and female attire, jumping up and down screaming “Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire”. This scenario reminded me a little of Alice In Wonderland, but it seemed the participants were really enjoying themselves in their fancy dress outfits, and above all else I suppose that’s the most important thing.

    These people apparently consider themselves “Climate Change Deniers” or Doubters for any of you who may be offended. That’s fair enough, they are entitled to their opinions. But in an ironic twist, they all cheered loudly when Tony Abbott proclaimed he believed in Climate Change. Strange but true.

    It soon dawned on me why no-one takes them seriously.

  10. Jack says:

    Typical of warmists, you left that they put on a free barbecue for the rent-a-crowd warmists. Same people turn up for anti G* rallies, whale rallies, war rallies, anti-Israel rallies.
    So a few thousand conservatives has gravitas, while rent a crowd is lighter than a feather mattress, if you can get them out of one before midday.

  11. Blade says:

    Dan [March 23, 2011 at 12:29 am] says:

    “The Brisbane pictures look impressive, there must have been literally dozens of people there compared to the 10,000 that showed for a rally for action on climate change.”

    Comfortable in numbers are you? Hmmm, funny how that propaganda never gets old. dang.. this.. Godwin’s.. law.. preventing.. me.. from.. saying.. what.. I.. really.. want.. about.. big.. propaganda.. rallies.. in.. Nur..

    All you good folks down under ignore this dip{snip}. Because as your NEW taxes come online and are added to rising costs, your membership and resolve will only grow. Commenter Dan and his fellow travelers will only see their numbers and spirit dwindle.

    You gotta stay involved, be safe and organized, never let up and never surrender. It’s working already.

  12. Patrick Davis says:

    I was invited to the Canberra event but while I still have a job to do, I was unable to attend. I did however feel a little cringe factor when I read the banners and listened to some of the speakers and comments. While the rally did work in terms of raising awareness about the issue (That is climate change and taxing people to save it), I also feel some of the comments did the anti-carbon tax movement zero favours IMO.

  13. Alexander K says:

    Go Aussies! And show the mad politicians in NZ where their ridiculous ETS should go!

  14. Cheryl of Brisbane says:

    Our Australian Prime Minister, Julia Gillard went to the last election, stating very emphatically “there will be no carbon tax under a government I lead”. Six months later with a minority government, aided by the Greens party and a few Independents who are more interested in their retirement benefits, she announces a Carbon Tax to be implemented before the next election. No details of this tax have been decided or given to the public. The long cone noses refer to the fact that she has continually lied to the Australian public. (Pinocchio)

    The Conservatives in Australia are skeptics not deniers. They don’t believe that a Carbon Tax in Australia will have any effect on world temperatures and of course it won’t. Our main exports are to Asia where there are no real carbon taxes. Our main imports are also from Asia. For Australia, the carbon tax is all pain for no gain.

  15. Fergus T. Ambrose says:

    Massive wildfires and major flooding recovery must be forcing most of the potential the rally members to drop their BBQ and lend a hand, money, and vote for no government aid.

  16. charles nelson says:

    Dan, have you never heard that old joke…’eat [snip]…millions of flies can’t be wrong’ !

  17. AusieDan says:

    Greg Hunt, Australian opposition spokesman for climate was interviewed on the ABC LateLine program just now, by a very aggressive ABC interviewer.
    Greg was able to answer every pointed question with clarity and corrected the many false impressions and incorrect facts implied by the interviewer’s questions.

    The ABC man had no answer to any of Greg’s statements and merely moved on to the next slanted question.
    Greg won the interview, hands down.
    I was impressed.

  18. Theo Goodwin says:

    Isn’t it true that Australia, like Britain, suffers under a government sponsored drumbeat of pro-AGW propaganda at all times?

  19. Patrick Davis says:

    “Theo Goodwin says:
    March 23, 2011 at 5:17 am”

    Yup, its true. And since Gillard’s announcement there has been a flood (Pun intended) of articles in the Australian MSM. The ABC is just awash with support for the carbon tax, any dissenting voice is simply dismissed.

  20. Patrick Davis says:

    “Fergus T. Ambrose says:
    March 23, 2011 at 4:36 am”

    So you’ve bought Gillards sales pitch hook, line and sinker? Really, is robbing Paul to pay Paul and robbing Peter to pay Peter, as long asyou don’t earn too much eh, the solution to “carbon pollution”? Tell me, where are there massive wildfires in Aus? Floods, on flood plains, are you serious?

  21. Beth Cooper says:

    Aussi Dan, my response as well. Greg Hunt responded with precise response to every question. The hostility of the interviewer was palpable.

  22. ShrNfr says:

    R. Jeremy Grantham at work. He has his, now he wants yours too.

  23. Vince Causey says:

    Just got off the radio listening to George Osborne’s budget speech in the UK parliament. He seems to have achieved the impossible, and created a budget for ‘growth’ while ratcheting up measures to be the ‘greenest government ever.’

    Of course, it won’t be achieved precisely because it is impossible – or at least a contradiction in terms. There were a lot of measures mentioned and the details are a bit vague, but something about trebling the green investment bank, and increasing the public funding for CCS was mentioned. I will wait to hear what the enviromentalists say about it. If they applaud I will be very worried indeed. Let’s hope they condemn it totally. Even a luke warm response would be worrying.

    Budget for growth? Build some coal fired power stations George, cancel the wind building program and scrap feed in tariffs – as a minimum.

  24. John Luft says:

    Dan says “The Brisbane pictures look impressive, there must have been literally dozens of people there compared to the 10,000 that showed for a rally for action on climate change.”…and then he posts a link….and while I see words, there are no pictures….just words….. A pretty common method of propaganda.

  25. John Brookes says:

    I went along to both Perth rallies, pro tax and anti tax. The anti tax rally was more fun for me, because I got to heckle some of the more ludicrous things the speakers said. But after a while I was becoming a nuisance, and ruining everyone elses fun, so I left. The speakers showed a charming naivette, being so terribly upset that Julia lied to them. She is a politician. At an election, what else did they expect? The last conservative prime minister of Australia, John Howard, used to lie too. He divided his pre-election promises into two types, core and non-core (but he didn’t actually tell you which ones were which type). According to him, it was ok to break non-core promises. So just think of Julia’s “no carbon tax” as a non-core promise, and all is well.

    The pro tax rally did not start on time, but was much more entertaining. The crowd was generally a lot younger, and maybe 50% bigger. There were no hecklers at the pro tax rally, which only goes to prove that the anti tax crowd are more polite than me.

    There was insufficient shade at either rally. So I ended up getting too much sun, and have work to catch up on.

  26. Mike says:

    Cut income and capital gains taxes and tax GHG emissions instead. Why punish people for investing or working extra hard? Give them an incentive to conserve energy instead. This would reduce our dependence on foreign oil and other types of pollution. And it is possible that the scientists are right and the bloggers are wrong about that global warming thing. Could be.

  27. Hector Pascal says:

    [quote]Massive wildfires and major flooding recovery must be forcing most of the potential the rally members to drop their BBQ and lend a hand, money, and vote for no government aid[/quote]

    Wildfires and floods in Australia? No sign of climate change there then. Everything is as it has always been. Move along.

  28. TomB says:

    Actually, I think the perceived lack of numbers is as a result of even more nefarious reasons than just “they all have jobs”. I live in DC which, I can assure you, is a bastion of “liberal consensus”. Conservative or contrary opinions, groups, rallies, protests, etc. are NOT greeted with warmth and light. In fact, the attitude toward anyone challenging the leftist narrative is treated with great hostility. Trust me, I know. Most polite and well meaning people are not showing up at these things just to avoid the inevitable confrontation. I’m sure that’s true in Brisbane too.

    As was said before, we do our protesting at the ballot box.

  29. Robert says:

    Most Australians are deeply concerned by the blatant lie told by Ms. Gillard prior to the recent election. She has no mandate to introduce a carbon tax and so far her performance is extremely poor. She will not survive the next election and may go sooner; a coup from within her party, or a couple of by-elections will do the trick. No details of the proposed tax are known and most people are starting to realise that it will do little for the environment if anything at all, but seems to be a revenue raising issue putting Australian industry at a considerable disadvantage. The dire predictions made by the UN panel are not happening and if anything its getting cooler, but the “warmists” still have a lot of momentum.

  30. Douglas says:

    Alexander K says:
    March 23, 2011 at 3:37 am
    Go Aussies! And show the mad politicians in NZ where their ridiculous ETS should go!
    ————————————————————————–
    Alexander. You are right but there is little hope of change. It is interesting to note that the recent Christchurch earthquake is estimated to cost N.Zers in the order of NZ$ 800m annually over the next few years to restore the city. At the same time we have the following:
    Nick Smith’s (NZ Government Minister) Cabinet Paper noted that the New Zealand Treasury had estimated that the long-term costs of intensity-based allocation of units to industry and agriculture would be ‘very significant’, in the order of $NZ900 million per annum by 2030. One would have thought that at least the latter could be postponed until the former was sorted.

    Don’t hold your breath Alexander.

    Douglas

  31. Douglas says:

    Mike says: March 23, 2011 at 7:21 am
    Cut income and capital gains taxes and tax GHG emissions instead. Why punish people for investing or working extra hard? Give them an incentive to conserve energy instead. This would reduce our dependence on foreign oil and other types of pollution. And it is possible that the scientists are right and the bloggers are wrong about that global warming thing. Could be.
    ————————————————————————-
    Mike. It doesn’t work like that. Governments want the present level of taxation PLUS the ETS tax. Do you see any sign of tax cutting in your neck of the woods? It doesn’t happen where I live.
    So oil is a pollution in your book it seems. I hope you don’t use any of it. And Mike, to which scientists are you referring?

    One thing is certain, higher taxation increases centralised power, reduces independence of individuals and increases dependency upon central government. Is this what you want?

    Douglas

  32. roger says:

    Vince Causey says:
    March 23, 2011 at 7:18 am
    Just got off the radio listening to George Osborne’s budget speech in the UK

    Unfortunately I think I also heard him say that he was introducing a Carbon (sic) floor price per metric tonne of £16 as from 2012.
    I will have to check this out tomorrow in a broadsheet.

  33. Ross says:

    Well done to the Aussies that got out there on a work day and did their bit. I hope for Australia it turns out to be like the climategate exposure. I’m of the firm belief that the one of the biggest benefits of Climategate was that it gave a huge percentage of the population ( the averge citizen ) the “permission” to say what they what had been thinking about AGW but had not had the courage to say previously because they had doubted themselves , given what the MSM and the so called experts were saying.

    In the same way I hope the initial rallies in Australia will help “mobilize” all those who would not normally protest in any way except the ballot box.

    The other interesting thing that has happened in recent days is that it obvious the pro AGW people are getting worried judging by the number bombarding the blog sites with , in most cases , stupid trivial comments about those anti the tax. Someone is trying to coordinate it behind the scenes but they have failed to supply the lackies with cogent arguments for their view.

  34. charles nelson says:

    URkidding, you are kidding right?
    Who doesn’t believe in Climate Change? Only ill educated clowns ‘believe’ that the earth’s climate is unchanging.
    What WE don’t believe is that homeopathic levels of a trace gas can cause drastic /runaway/ tipping point/ climate armageddon! That’s a millenarian religious belief, with no scientific foundations.
    You should watch out for the ones who want to pay admen taxpayers’ money to convince the public that it’s a good idea to pay tax… you’re kidding right?

  35. Tom Harley says:

    With the majority of protesters apparently being pensioners, aren’t these the people who would benefit the most with the redistribution under Juliars new carbon Tax?
    It goes to show that these people are far superior morally …than those who lie and deceive us about AGW and carbon pollution.

  36. ian says:

    @ John Brookes

    Ta’ for the light-hearted post, gave me a chuckle!
    cheers, ian

  37. Bruce of Newcastle says:

    More on the rally from Gavin Atkins (via Tim Blair):

    http://asiancorrespondent.com/50990/photos-from-no-carbon-tax-rally/

    For our US friends who don’t know Oz politics, you’ll get tenure if you can correctly identify everyone he mentions.

  38. Bernd Felsche says:

    From the rally held in Perth, Western Australia on the 23rd of March, 2011, against the Gillard-led government’s plan to introduce a “Carbon Tax”, going against her explicit pre-election promise of only 6 months before.

    I’ve uploaded some rough, uncut videos to an album on Vimeo.

    Unfortunately, the camera ran out of nanometres of storage capacity and the last half hour of the rally missed out on being recorded (by me). It’s all my fault.

  39. Keith Minto says:

    The lofty ideology behind the introduction of this tax is really for the general public to swallow. The abstracted benefit is a wish for future climate stability but the concrete reality is the tax increase. This tax increase is necessary to fulfil an election promise to balance the budget within a short time frame and the obvious way, by increasing the GST (Goods and ServicesTax), currently fixed in stone at 10% is politically impossible.

    Quite simple, bring out the big guns, Garnaut and Flannery, spin the public a fairy tale choc full of vague future planetary climate benefits, but quickly extract a tax from the combustion of carbon. The climate then keeps doing what the climate always has done but the tax increase is very real and very permanent (hey, we are not going to fix this in a hurry, are we?). Any failure of the climate to behave itself, in either direction,will be a reason to increase the tax even further.

    Keep this self-flagellation up and our future really does look bleak.

  40. pascvaks says:

    I’m convinced the Gov’ment has put something in the beer; other than the usual list of 237 additives. Whatever it is, it’s working. Remember, real Aussies don’t drink water.

  41. TomRude says:

    http://www.westvancouver.ca/Government/Level3.aspx?id=33292

    For a good laugh… and an illustration of green back door infiltration.

  42. Dear Ruth Bonnet,

    Thanks for the photos of 23 March 2011. I have commented on my Blog about my thoughts on the Brisbane Anti-Carbon Dioxide Tax Rally.

    http://contactjly.blogspot.com/2011/03/brisbane-anti-carbon-tax-rally-23-march.html

    It’s the first time in 47 years I’ve been passionate about something enough to get out there and let my voice be heard. It was quite liberating actually.

    Thank you Watts Up With That for all the support you give to people like me.
    You do us such a great service. Cheers.

  43. lee says:

    problem is we didnt know about rally..or i would have had a lot more support for bris..
    stop selling us to the UN,,have a good look at what they are really trying to do..have a look at the corpoRATe giants that do not pay tax at all..hello this system is barbaric, take a look at usa we usually do not fall far behind them, and this is no different, the people their are starving, forget 3rd world countries being those you can close your eyes on and pretend it doesnt matter, as you wont be able to do that when its your own children holding out a rice dish!!!!

  44. richcar that 1225 says:

    Even the socialist movement is freaked out over the carbon taxes:
    “Labor, with the support of the Greens, is committed to imposing a carbon tax that will be used to hand billions of dollars to the big corporate polluters and so-called “green” companies, as well as help finance the planned corporate and income tax cuts. None of these measures will do anything to arrest global warming, while ordinary people will be left to try and pay inflated prices for energy, fuel and other essentials.”
    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/mar2011/vote-m25.shtml
    I think that only when labor gets rid of Tim Flannery and returns to their roots will they rebound.

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