WUWT readers may remember Professor Ove Hoegh-Guldberg from when I had a tussle with him during my speaking tour in Australia in Brisbane. Then, the good professor thought his opinion so important, that he disrupted the meeting and hogged the microphone. However, we let him talk, and he had the audience for several minutes. I am disappointed though, as he didn’t have the courtesy to introduce himself to me afterwards, though the webmaster for his climateshifts blog, John Bruno, did.

Ove is making waves again, this time on Australia’s ABC Stateline program.
Malcolm Roberts writes in an email to me an outline of the complaints, which I’m reproducing here. While I don’t share all of his opinions [Mr. Roberts], I’m sure that Ove would insist that everyone be heard, such as we allowed him to do in Brisbane in June. Mr. Roberts says he will be fully accountable for his statements below, and that’s something I respect. Even though my first encounter with him was less than professional, I’ll be courteous and say up front that Dr. Hoegh-Guldberg will also have the opportunity to post a response here, should he wish to. – Anthony
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Federal MP’s, Friends:
Politicians and journalists who believe that humans caused global warming are invited to read accompanying specific data. Then take action to protect yourself because there’s solid proof you’re being fed nonsense and you’re politically, professionally and personally exposed.
Global warming sceptics can sit back in amusement and relax.
The confused and the fence sitters can find clarity, reassurance and freedom.
Professor Ove Hoegh-Guldberg is copied on this e-mail because one of the principles by which I try to live is to say only about people what I’m prepared to say to them personally.
I lodged formal complaints last week about his comments on the Australian government’s ABC-TV program ‘Stateline’ broadcast Friday, October 29, 2010. Complaints were lodged with (1) the University of Queensland Senate, (2) ABC-TV Audience and Consumer Affairs, and (3) the professor himself.
Despite having read many wild, unscientific and unfounded claims by fomenters of climate alarm, I feel stunned, annoyed and saddened by the Professor’s wild claims contradicting real-world science. His statements on ‘Stateline’ fail to meet needs for integrity, accuracy and responsibility.
Attached are PDF copies of my complaints and supporting material including ABC-TV’s ‘Stateline’ transcript with my responses.
Included are specific data that expose the professor’s sweeping, vague and emotive claims as false and/or contradicting real-world science. Use my solid, scientific data to draw your own conclusions.
Unlike the professor, I provide links and references you can check for yourself.
eg, despite failing to provide data, the transcript and his Global Change Institute’s web site imply dramatically rising sea levels. Yet actual Maritime Safety Queensland measurements show Australia’s annual sea level rise in the last 15 years is 0.3 millimetre. At this rate, in 100 years the total rise will be 3.0cm, around one inch.
I’m accountable for my statements. If Professor Hoegh-Guldberg provides specific, scientifically measured real-world evidence that global warming was due to human production of CO2 I will send that to this e-mail’s recipients.
Do you want to understand how climate alarm has been fabricated and spread? Read the interview transcript and watch the interview via the link provided.
Typical of climate alarm—spurious, unscientific, false assertions:
Much of Professor Hoegh-Guldberg’s statements on ‘Stateline’ is typical of what I’ve seen as the unscientific and unfounded spread of climate alarm contrary to real-world science. The many falsities and/or irresponsible actions of alarmists misrepresenting Nature and humanity typically include:
1. relying on falsities and unsubstantiated, unscientific claims that contradict real-world science. Professor Hoegh-Guldberg’s fanciful claims lead me to conclude he seems ignorant of basic aspects of his own field of marine science;
2. briefing parliamentarians by posing as experts yet lacking qualifications in climateology. Prof Hoegh-Guldberg is a biologist not a meteorologist or climatologist;
3. lacking real-world evidence. Eight months ago I first asked Prof Hoegh-Guldberg for scientifically measured real-world evidence of human global warming. He provided no such evidence. There is no scientifically measured real-world evidence that human production of CO2 warmed Earth;
4. using emotive ‘sound bites’ falsely claiming catastrophic damage to Aussie environmental icons such as the Great Barrier Reef (that experts agree is thriving), Daintree rainforest mists, Kakadu, Bondi Beach, ………;
5. relying on and citing UN IPCC reports even though I previously provided Prof Hoegh-Guldberg solid figures—obtained from the UN IPCC itself—proving that UN IPCC reports are fraudulently fabricated on falsities and not scientifically peer-reviewed. The UN IPCC corrupted and bypassed peer-review. Key UN IPCC claims are based on work of ‘scientists’ who prevent scrutiny of their raw data. That’s not science, it’s uninformed and biased advocacy;
6. demonstrating ignorance of the scientific process and misunderstanding of science itself. From what I’ve seen the professor fails to understand what is meant by a causal relationship. He has no real-world scientific evidence of causation;
7. smearing—and without grounds discrediting people—who disagree with alarmist views even when those people may simply be questioning the lack of sound reasoning and the use of many, naked contradictions by fomenters of climate alarm;
8. relying on the global warming ‘industry’ to attract funding;
9. failing or refusing to declare their own financial interests yet implying sceptics are driven by vested interests;
10. cornering politicians to accept falsities by plundering politicians’ ignorance of science and reluctance to publicly question alarmists posing as ‘experts’. It’s clear that many politicians feel ‘trapped’ even though ‘experts’ lack scientific evidence and fail to declare financial interests;
11. bulldozing journalists by taking advantage of journalists’ ignorance of science and their apparent reluctance to scrutinise people falsely posing as ‘experts’. Journalists often fail to challenge experts’ conflicts of financial interest;
12. claiming the high moral ground yet failing to understand core moral issues while making recommendations detrimental to the environment and humanity. Please refer to my comments on the ABC-TV transcript;
These are only some of the many tricks used by the UN IPCC and UNEP.
Prof Hoegh-Guldberg is not alone in spreading falsities:
Included in my submission to the UQ and the ABC, are copies of e-mails exchanged with Prof Hoegh-Guldberg last March. The thread of my e-mail of March 07, 2010 includes discussion with Professor Karoly. He failed to provide any scientifically measured real-world evidence of human causation of global warming.
Professor Karoly is the UN IPCC Lead Author of Chapter 12 of the UN IPCC’s 2001 Report. That chapter is the sole chapter attributing human causation of global warming.
He is a UN IPCC Reviewing Editor of the equivalent chapter (No.9) of the UN IPCC’s latest Report (2007) attributing warming to human production of CO2.
Thus he’s a senior UN IPCC ‘scientist’ twice responsible for the chapter claiming warming and attributing it to human production of CO2. Yet he cannot provide specific scientifically measured real-world evidence of human global warming.
McLean’s presentation of the UN IPCC’s own figures expose Professor Karoly as part of a close-knit cabal of computer modellers responsible for the 2007 Report’s chapter 9. It seems many of the authors had vested financial interests associated with computer modelling. Parliamentary records show that in 2006 Professor Karoly received $1.9 million in research funds from the government to research quote ‘detection and attribution of climate change’.
Yet by then we were told the science had long ago been ‘settled’.
Please refer to McLean’s works that can be accessed on www.conscious.com.au. The first four of McLean’s works at this site cannot be sensibly refuted since they merely present UN IPCC data on the UN PCC’s own reporting processes. The data was obtained from the UN IPCC.
In addition, note in the e-mail thread that Prof Karoly apparently erred in stating the UN IPCC’s purpose.
It seems Professor Karoly is a meteorologist who now puts his faith in unvalidated computer models to predict future climate. Yet the UN IPCC itself admits low and very low levels of understanding for more than 80% of the factors supposedly driving its radiative back-warming supposition.
Over a period of just 12 years, the unvalidated models’ projections have already been wildly inaccurate yet we’re expected to believe projections for 100 years.
Why does Professor Karoly cast aspersions on internationally renowned Professor Fred Singer whose qualifications AND practical experience in the real-world span many disciplines of science, climate and ecology? Professor Singer is an accomplished and esteemed scientist whose administrative and scientific accomplishments can be seen in the accompanying e-mail of March 7th, 2010. He is a person of the real-world, not the virtual.
In my experience true scientists rely on data. From what I’ve seen, playing the man rather than the ball seems to be a tactic for those lacking scientific evidence.
Professor Karoly is copied on this e-mail. If he provides specific, scientifically measured real-world evidence that global warming was due to human production of CO2 I will send that to this e-mail’s recipients.
There is no evidence of human global warming:
This e-mail illustrates just a few of the many methods used to spin the false claim that humans caused global warming. That falsity is being perpetrated despite complete lack of any evidence of human causation and despite much evidence to the contrary showing that cooling, warming, cooling cycles are natural.
In 1995 UN IPCC scientists reported five times that there was no evidence of human warming. Yet UN IPCC politicians reported to national governments and media, quote: “The balance of evidence suggests a discernible human influence on global climate”.
The scientific conclusion that there is no evidence of human global warming has been repeated many times since by UN IPCC scientists. Please refer to UN IPCC Expert Reviewer, PhD scientist Dr Vincent Gray who reviewed all four UN IPCC reports—1991, 1995, 2001, 2007. He says there’s no evidence anywhere. www.conscious.com.au
Why pay our money to politicians, academics, ABC journalists for them to fleece us?
Do you find it ironic that academics, politicians and ABC journalists are funded by our taxes and are working—knowingly or in ignorance—to promote false grounds for taxing us more heavily?
Some politicians have integrity and courage. How likely is it though that any other politician will rise to question this waste of taxpayer funds on the ABC and academia?
The USA has spent 80 billion dollars on global warming over the last 30 years. International estimates reach 100 billion dollars. Despite this massive funding, global warming ‘research’ has found no real-world scientific evidence showing humans caused global warming.
http://joannenova.com.au/2009/07/massive-climate-funding-exposed/
and
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/climate_money.pdf
Imagine the humanitarian and environmental benefits if we’d spent that money on real science addressing such real-world issues such as HIV-AIDS or cancer or water quality or malnutrition or any of the real issues listed by the World Health Organisation.
Instead, UN power brokers enlisted academics, journalists, politicians and NGO’s to drive a gravy-train purportedly chasing Nature’s trace gas essential for all life on Earth while pushing carbon taxes.
The ABC Board tried to foster responsibility in journalists
Last March, ABC Board Chairman, Mr. Maurice Newman challenged ABC staff to adopt a spirit of inquiry. He made it clear in his address to staff that failure of any media organisation to be independent, objective and diligent brings consequences that will damage the organisation they cherish. The logic is clear: when journalists are seen to be biased or lacking in diligence, their audience loses trust and abandons them.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/maurice-newman-speech/story-e6frg996-1225839427099
Although some ABC journalists won’t fulfil their responsibility to Australia, will they recognise their responsibility for their ABC’s future?
I doubt collusion is rife. Yet unfounded climate alarm graphically demonstrates how a lack of journalistic courage to challenge ‘accepted’ mis-perceptions combines with group-think to spread nonsense.
We are reliably informed federal cabinet includes climate sceptics. Yet will any ALP-Greens politicians hold Prof Hoegh-Guldberg accountable?
Will any Liberals hold the professor accountable?
It’s too easy for politicians to blow our money rather than ask questions that risk incurring journalistic wrath in the electorate.
Yet courageous politicians of integrity do exist
Senator Fielding personally did his due diligence independently at his own cost. Then when Senator Penny Wong and Australia’s Chief Scientist failed to provide him with any proof of human causation, Senator Fielding made a calm, rational, objective decision against taxing people on carbon. He retains his integrity.
Former NSW ALP state Treasurer Michael Costa is known for his strength of character in saying what he thinks. He too publicly stated climate alarm was unfounded. Although he’s no longer in ALP government, he retains his integrity.
Liberal Dennis Jensen, a physicist, has been outspoken in opposing the climate scam. Cory Bernardi, Barnaby Joyce and other Coalition senators speak out publicly despite being diluted by the Coalition’s public policy nonsensically reinforcing the myth that humans caused global warming. Thus, some Coalition members retain their integrity.
These politicians are in touch with Nature and know parliament is being fed Climate Rubbish and Alarmist Propaganda—crap—by ill-informed and weak journalists and ‘scientists’ peddling alarm to fuel the gravy train.
Meanwhile my wife and I use savings and sell assets to fund our own research and writing. We pay capital gains tax when selling assets to fund our effort to protect our kids’ future. Our taxes pay salaries of weak politicians too timid to hold ‘experts’ and journalists accountable. It’s easier for them to meekly toe the party line and irresponsibly waste our money than to pluck up the courage to ask basic questions.
Why are Aussies paying politicians salaries for abdicating government to spin doctors and journalists?
That’s one of many reasons why so many Aussies are disenchanted with gutless politicians cocooned in Canberra failing to do their due diligence. Instead of protecting us from UN fraud, they’re making us targets.
If not us and a few honest politicians, who will hold academics, politicians and the ABC accountable?
The dark green lie: it’s Either-Or.
Yet reality is: it’s Neither-Both
Greens relentlessly scream that humans are evil, uncaring, greedy, irresponsible, guilty. Yet they ironically tap our inherent human care for our planet by using emotive sound bites to foster guilt and fear.
They falsely and fearfully proclaim our choice is: either our way of life and civilisation OR our environment.
Please refer to my comments on the ABC-TV transcript. History, economics and science show human care coupled with modern science’s technology produces massive environmental benefits.
Our civilisation depends on the environment AND the environment depends on our civilisation. Both are mutually supportive. If one fails, both fail. It’s not Either-Or, it’s Neither-Both.
Both! For the environment’s sake we need to continue enjoying and improving our lifestyle. We need to help those currently trapped in totalitarianism or poverty to gain the humanitarian and ecological benefits of our lifestyle. Sustainability enables people to live a prosperous life.
History and the world today show the greatest threats to the environment are ignorance and poverty. The greatest environmental disasters are in nations wracked by poverty or government control.
The reality is that when people have sufficient economic wealth AND awareness they take action to protect the environment. How many major real environmental threats in developed nations can you name that once identified have not been addressed or are not being addressed?
There’s no need to feel guilty about human civilisation’s major advances. Be proud of them.
Don’t let science be corrupted. That simply breeds ignorance, the environment’s enemy.
Stop the lie that humans are evil for seeking a better life with greater security, ease, comfort, health, longer life spans, wealth and choices—freedom.
Don’t wait for politicians to catch up with reality. Don’t wait for academic ‘experts’ to replace their ivory tower computer models with measurements of Nature and science in the real-world.
It’s your money they’re blowing, your future being destroyed. It’s Earth’s natural environment threatened by the ignorance of media-proclaimed experts and media-fueled ego’s.
Please reclaim our country. Please stand up to protect choice—freedom.
Malcolm Roberts
BE (Hons), MBA (Chicago)
Fellow AICD, MAIM, MAusIMM, MAME (USA), MIMM (UK), Fellow ASQ (USA, Aust)
Pullenvale QLD
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“Ove is making waves again, this time on Australia’s ABC Stateline program.”
Funny, i took it for ABC Stalin program first…
Good on him for standing up but I would remove some of the emotional language and condense it if possible.
Michael
“Formal complaint” is misleading. It is often used in place of formal charge, in the legal sense. I would classify this as closer to a diatribe.
So? There is nothing stopping other Australians from issuing similar complaints using language they believe is more temperate. Let him communicate the way he wants to communicate,, and you communicate the way you want to communicate. Between everyone’s efforts, surely there will be a tone some people can agree upon. Worst case, is leaving the man to stand alone with nothing but backbiters instead of support.
Love it and the “protect yourself” approach …
Don’t let science be corrupted. That simply breeds ignorance, the environment’s enemy.
What science?, what ignorance?, that sounds like a psychological projection of one’s own and not yet consciously recognized faults.
Environment’s enemy?.. Excuse me: May I ask you what do you mean by environment?
A social one, of mutual grooming and caressing, a nice political one, a big profits one,or what?
The gravy train is running on time and still at full speed here in Oz. But I wouldn’t get as excited as Mr Roberts, I mean who watches “Stateline’ anyway. It’s all about New South Wales state issues and it’s one of the most boring programs put out by the ABC.
As for the ABC, well their on track with their AGW message, although I notice the messages are becoming less since Rudd (the ex Prime Minister) was replaced.
I found the article to be quite interesting. It appears to be accurate. The “emotional” language appears to come from Professor Ove Hoegh-Guldberg .
I LOVE IT. More power to his writing arm.
Although I agree with most of his statements, this is the type of document that is almost guaranteed to close ears and eyes. Ranting and overt emotional appeals are “epic fail”.
This past year “we” have managed to expose the naked emperor to many, many who actually count. Instead of continuing to try to get attention, now it’s time to calmly explain things to those whose attention “we” have.
Meanwhile, I found this rant/complaint/breathless recounting to be quite entertaining 🙂 And really, it doesn’t need to be thrown out, it needs some cleaning up.
nobody in there right mind would take notice of anything the abc said there all too far to the left
Anthony,
Most of what you say here is not much different than can be said about a whole host of the supposed scientists involved in the AGW scam. Not that it should not be said but it is nothing new, either. I suppose that if this buffoon had stuck his thumb in my eye during a sparing match I would have done the same. Also, this post is a pretty well thought out generic summary of much of what is wrong with AGW theory in general.
Keep up the fight. At some point the general populace will catch on. I fear for our children, however, as they continue to be indoctrinated.
I found the complaint long on histrionics and short on facts. Even Michael Mann writes better rubbish than this.
Sounds like ABC should change their acronim meaning to – “Anthropogenic Broadcasting Commission”
Kangaroos and Global Warming, the dangers their unstoppable reproduction because of increasing temperatures
Another possible line of research for bored to death Aussie New Age Professors.
While I do not dispute the facts as presented in the email, I agree this is not a formal complaint. A formal complaint is one that would require an investigation by parliament, or a prosecutor or the professor’s university. As far as I can see, there is no formal charge of academic misconduct such as falsifying, truncating or destroying data or failing to present a failed verification statistic – all of which deserve formal complaints and formal investigations.
REPLY: This is what he calls it in his letter, but I digress, I’ll amend the title to simply complaint – Anthony
Can anyone at the ABC read? This complaint will fall on deaf ears, because no-one who should read it will do so.
Can anyone at the ABC think? This complaint will be dismissed because it demonstrates a need to think.
When will the media ask for facts?
The guy needs to chill out and then reframe his complaint in a calmer state of mind. Right now he’s coming across like another Mann, Romm, Hansen etc.
What is it about Australia and batty professors? They also have a Flannery (http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/?tag=tim-flannery) and a Lewandowsky (http://joannenova.com.au/2010/11/the-death-of-reason-at-uwa/. Suitable characters to generate vigorous boos from the audience in a pantomime or hearty laughs in a light opera. Oh for a Gilbert & Sullivan piece on their shenanigans!
This is not a formal complaint. It is a rant. In pre-internet days it would have been in green ink, in capitals and heavily underlined. Someone should have told him this would be an embarrassment to those in the sceptic community who try to argue rationally.
Good on Malcolm Roberts for responding in such detail to Professor Ove Hoegh-Guldberg’s overly emotive statements. The sensible questioning side of this debate needs knowledgable people like Mr Roberts who are prepared to directly challenge emotive Alarmists like the Professor.
I’m looking forward to reading the Professor’s response here on WUWT however its most likely that the good Professor (similar to ALL his Warmist/Alarmist colleagues) will simply continue to bluster from afar rather than debate the issues directly to a vast and likely mostly knowledgeable audience like here on WUWT.
And to be fair to the good Professor, any direct debate seems an impossible task when he can’t produce any hard evidence to support his emotive allegations of human caused catastrophic global warming.
Malcolm,
First, I’d like to say, I agree with most you have to say. Thanks, it needs stating. However, I winced throughout the posting.
The reason? You stated, “4. using emotive ‘sound bites’…..”, yet, in your introductory paragraph, you use, “I feel stunned, annoyed and saddened by…” and the tone and tenor continues throughout. It isn’t that I disagree, I do agree, and I believe the emotional response is well justified. However, it is difficult to justify criticizing their emotional pleas while using emotive counters. Perhaps it is simply a matter of style, or perhaps it wasn’t intentionally written in this manner. (I often fall victim to my own emotions while intending to write a well thought, reasoned assertion or rebut.)
I know that it is, at times, difficult to see, but, I believe the skeptics have turned the corner and are now winning the great debate. I believe now is the time to become more paternal and mocking while engaging alarmists as opposed to being reactionary. Of course, were they to bring new information, the skeptic community could and should react, but as it is now, they just keep recycling the same blatherings they’ve used in the last decade. Most have been reasonably refuted. At least to my satisfaction and I would imagine you have most of the same rebuts at your disposal. Having read your links provided, I see that it is the case. Perhaps it would be beneficial to your purposes to include some of the well reasoned rebuts to general CAGW claims(or at least a short summary with links) in your post as opposed to the general sweeping statements. I hope this little critique helps.
Best wishes,
James
Stateline is a TV program with limited coverage because each State and Territory has its own version about locat issues. So only New South Wales has been subjected to the views expressed by the Professor. NSW is not Australia. Lots of us live elsewhere. However, I still hear on the ABC’s programs the old ‘the science is settled’ and ‘the debate is over’ mantras, ad nauseum, often inserted into ‘news’ broadcasts. The alarmist bias is common to the MSM and the ABC reiterates it.
I bet he feels better now he’s got that off his chest!
Meanwhile my wife and I use savings and sell assets to fund our own research and writing.
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Silly old twit wasting his money.
I would condense this down to:
People who agree with my preconceived ideas are smart and have integrity.
People who don’t agree with my preconceived useas are corrupt and incompetent.
By the way, if memory serves, the mucho integrity senator fielding was kicked out by his electorate, his party was funded by some small business men, the money dried up and it became bankrupt.