Gore concedes, National Wildlife Federation calls skeptics “bastards”

Gore concedes on climate this year
By Steve Milloy GreenHellBlog, August 10, 2010

Speaking about the likelihood of climate bill being passed by Congress in 2010, Al Gore told a conference call of supporters tonight that, “this battle has not been successful and is pretty much over for this year.” Gore bitterly denounced the Senate and federal government stating several times, “The U.S. Senate has failed us” and “The federal government has failed us.” Gore even seemed to blame President Obama by emphasizing that “the government as a whole has failed us… although the House did its job. [emphasis added]”

Gore urged his listeners to take the “realistic view that they had failed badly.” Gore said that “Comprehensive legislation is not likely to be debated” and that a “lame duck debate” is a “very slim possibility indeed.” (N.B. We thought, because Gore told us, that “the debate” was over.)

Gore blamed the skeptics for “attacking science and scientists.” “They [the skeptics] did damage and cast doubt,” Gore said.

In a warm-up discussion before Gore addressed the call, National Wildlife Federation chief Larry Schweiger referred to the skeptics as “enemies” and that he hoped the alarmists would “outlive the bastards.”

Read entire story: Gore concedes on climate this year at Greenhell blog

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Oh, and those NWF folks surely could find a way to squeeze in the word “donate” a couple more times on their web page:

Follow the money.

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126 Responses to Gore concedes, National Wildlife Federation calls skeptics “bastards”

  1. Mike Bryant says:

    I’d rather be an intelligent bastard with integrity, Than a blankety-blank money-grubbing alarmist…

  2. Ed Murphy says:

    Gore = alarmist = act like God!

  3. Bill Jamison says:

    If the battle to have this bill passed was lost due to skeptics, then all I can say is Hooray for us!

    I guess all the work put in by people like Anthony is working.

  4. Dave Worley says:

    Health care was dead too.
    Watch the flank.

  5. Leon Brozyna says:

    Gore concedes … again. This seems a role to which he is well suited with a proven track record on offering concessions.

    Let us hope he keeps his record intact and keeps on conceding through all the upcoming years.

  6. Sean Peake says:

    I’m surprised Schweiger didn’t call skeptic poo-heads, too. He’s a bit testy because he can hear the rusty squeak of his donations faucet being slowly shut off.

  7. amicus curiae says:

    such heartwarming news,
    the thought of Al being depressed and losing:-)
    I bet hes More upset at losing the money!
    as for the NWF chap. well theres an old Aussie bush curse..(probably came back from the wars in egypt?)
    may the fleas of a thousand camels…..infest…..
    I’m sure you can all guess the rest :-)

  8. John Cereghin says:

    Manbearpig has been stopped…for now!

  9. evanmjones says:

    He needs to relax. Maybe get a good rubdown?

  10. Smokey says:

    Look at the piles of money being expended by the alarmist contingent, while skeptics operate on a shoestring, if even that.

  11. Amino Acids in Meteorites says:

    Gore blamed the skeptics for “attacking science and scientists.”

    This from a man who said the core of the earth is at several million degrees. He doesn’t know what science is—that is beyond debate.

  12. Amino Acids in Meteorites says:

    Asked why the alarmists were ineffective in addressing Climategate, Gore bitterly blamed a “biased right-wing media…

    How about blaming the team Al baby.

  13. Amino Acids in Meteorites says:

    Gore said that “reality is [the alarmists] ally”

    This from a man who said he used to be President.

  14. savethesharks says:

    Pass the popcorn….

    Chris
    Norfolk, VA, USA

  15. Graeme says:

    Dave Worley says:
    August 10, 2010 at 8:17 pm
    Health care was dead too.
    Watch the flank.

    I agree – keep an eye on the EPA for an attempt to set up some sort of “carbon” control system – or even a cap and trade system without Congress.

    If such a thing happens – you can be sure that Congress as an effective institution within the Executive-Legislative-Judiciary group will have been successfully marginalised by the Executive branch.

    Hopefully it wont come to pass.

  16. John Trigge says:

    Gored urged his listeners …”

    Ad hominem – let’s not sink to their level.

    REPLY: typo. fixed. thanks. Anthony

  17. Jaye says:

    Apart from the money, I think another factor is that Progressives just can’t believe that their policies can be fairly questioned. What they want to do is so obviously correct, appropriate and generally good for all of us, that they can’t fathom that maybe a credible argument even exists. Sounds like religion to me…not that there is anything wrong with it.

  18. Amino Acids in Meteorites says:

    He concluded by observing that “it is darkest before dawn”…

    Not at his mansion that uses more electricity in one month than the average house does in twenty.

  19. Amino Acids in Meteorites says:

    He concluded by observing that…. “we have not yet begun to fight.”

    Then he picked up his $150,000.00 speaking engagement check, got into an awaiting limo which took him to his Gulf Stream Jet which flew him to another awaiting limo. Boy, that’s a real fight. Maybe he’d like us all to ride a bike to work to offset his carbon footprint.

  20. RockyRoad says:

    Ed Murphy says:
    August 10, 2010 at 8:10 pm
    Gore = alarmist = act like God!
    —————Reply:
    I’d rather take the opposite view, i.e., that Gore acts just the opposite of God. Satan is the controlling one; the one who doesn’t want honest, open discussion. Satan is the one who piles woe and misery on the human race, whereas God tries His best to bless mankind. Gore’s actions would be completely opposite if he were God-like. Completely opposite.

  21. Henry chance says:

    Is alGore a quitter? He can go out and ramp up some more fear and try again.We get his sea level rise we plant cypress trees in Russia.

  22. DJ Meredith says:

    I guess the National Wildlife Federation never considered that so-called “skeptics” might be animal lovers, and might be otherwise inclined to fund efforts to help the animal kingdom…..

    Mr. Schweiger, don’t bother asking me anymore to join your group or make donations. My money’s going to the National Skeptic Federation for wild nightlife preserves.

  23. Raving says:

    Climate change science is about engineering a change in the perceived climate by way of delusion.

    Idiots!

  24. No wonder good ole’ Gordo is angry. Take a look how his carbon market is doing: $0.10/ton.

    http://www.chicagoclimatex.com/

  25. LightRain says:

    These guys (alarmists) keep digging themselves deeper and deeper, when the truth is finally accepted they will become the laughing stock of the world. They need to be given a way out so we can all go back to solving real world problems.

  26. James Sexton says:

    HAHAHA, what, did they think our heritage was pure? This is the U.S.A.!!!! We’re mutts, dammit! That’s what makes us sooo cooool!!!! We take the best of every body and discard the rest. Bastards? Not most of us, but some of us, mongrels, yeh, probably most of us. Poor, dumb SOBs don’t know who they’re talking to(or about). HAHAHAHA Weird how they don’t know how genetics works. Inbred SOBs.

  27. CodeTech says:

    It is tempting to say something over the top… but for Gore and his kind I feel pity. Some of them actually believe this stuff. It’s possible Gore even believes it, although as most people know his actions show that he most likely doesn’t.

    And this is an ideal time to point out another extremely dangerous thing going on… Gates and Buffet’s challenge to billionaires to give away half their money.

    Unfortunately, the vast majority of beneficiaries of this gigantic giveaway are or will be LEFTIST causes, since they’re the ones already set up as charities. We have to be prepared for even better financed children of the 60′s pushing their warped and distorted view of reality.

    This battle may be a stalemate, but the war is just beginning.

  28. rbateman says:

    The Alarmists did this to themselves, not the skeptics. Too many tall tales and wild predictions came to nought, and they have been trapped in thier own web of crying wolf.
    The way out for them is simple: stop blaming the molecule of life for all ills, real or imagined.

  29. Dr. Dave says:

    Ol’ Al never got over losing in 2000. He’s bitter, he’s angry. He doesn’t have a black carbon streaked snow ball’s chance in hell of ever becoming POTUS. He has always been an environmentalist lackey. AGW was his shot to be a world superstar. It just didn’t turn out that way. If we never become so stupid as to trade CO2 emissions as a commodity old Al will NEVER become a carbon billionaire.

    This dung heap already has more money than he can spend for the rest of his lifetime. It’s time to either debate or shut up.

  30. James Sexton says:

    CodeTech says:
    August 10, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    “……. And this is an ideal time to point out another extremely dangerous thing going on… Gates and Buffet’s challenge to billionaires to give away half their money…..”

    I saw that, too. I gotta call bs on that. I don’t know why, but my bs meter went off the charts when I read billionaires were lining up for the game. Something has been promised to somebody. I don’t know what, why or how, but I know my meter broke the glass. OTOH, what’s a billion when the U.S. is giving away trillions? I think that is where the game is being played, I just don’t know what the name of the game is. Probably something like “grabbing the money.” Note, half of the bailout is still unspent. I’m wondering how it would benefit the billionaires of this world to give away half of their worldly possessions? Half of the bailout is still unspent.

  31. Brian Johnson uk says:

    The Carbon Offset Trading Gore/Blood combo is totally covered in flies. Nasty, dirty lying flies. So glad for the USA that he never made President.

    Just wish he wasn’t anything to do with Apple……..

  32. Doug in Seattle says:

    The alarmists are letting the skeptics “think” they won. The plan is definitely on for the lame duck session. Don’t fool yourselves, these guys always play to win – at any cost!

  33. James Sexton says:

    rbateman says:
    August 10, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    “………..The way out for them is simple: stop blaming the molecule of life for all ills, real or imagined…………”

    Yeh, but then they have to argue David Ricardo was wrong. In the end, they are Malthusian. Life isn’t precious to them, life is an abomination to them. Thus, CO2 is an abomination. They don’t really give a rat’s azz about whether the earth is warmer or not,(see the change of vernacular from global warming to climate change) they care about being deciders of who stays and who must go in the name of our common(collective) good and welfare.

    PS, this is why I also wish you guys and gals would be a bit nicer to GM, he is, at least, honest about his point of view and gives me insight to the thinking of people with “alternate” views on life.

  34. CRS, Dr.P.H. says:

    Brian Johnson uk says:
    August 10, 2010 at 9:42 pm
    The Carbon Offset Trading Gore/Blood combo is totally covered in flies. Nasty, dirty lying flies. So glad for the USA that he never made President.

    Just wish he wasn’t anything to do with Apple……..
    —-
    Wish I had said that first!! You Brits know how to use the King’s English!
    Cheers, Charles the DrPH (former resident of Colaton Raleigh, Devon UK)

  35. Robert says:

    “Bastard”? “Inglorious Bastards” please.

    And then Al can then play the role of Hans “I love rumors! Facts can be so misleading, where rumors, true or false, are often revealing. ” Landa :)

    Or try at least.

  36. evanmjones says:

    GM is the sort I would want to persuade to look squarely at the fact that the observational evidence simply doesn’t add up to what the IPCC projects.

    But he’d better lose the preconceptions about America and Americans; his errors in this regard may one day lead him badly astray.

  37. Johnb says:

    The science is in and now Al Gore announces that the consensus is in, they have failed. ;)

  38. Bill Tuttle says:

    I am *not* a bastard — my parents had known each other for *years* before I got married…

  39. JG says:

    It only means that the possibility of making money off climate change via cap and tax is dead.

    The EPA’s Action Jackson has no problems with regulating us back to the stone age.
    If Congress and the Senate can’t pull it off, she will.

  40. Bill says:

    Well “the science is settled, but the politics isnt” I suppose.

  41. Layne Blanchard says:

    Word is the lobbyists claimed they spent 100M and couldn’t buy a single GOP vote for Crap N Charade.

    Nice.

  42. Chris in OZ says:

    Let us not forget the guy who posted this over at the Air Vent !!

    10.FOIA said
    November 17, 2009 at 9:57 pm
    We feel that climate science is, in the current situation, too important to be kept under wraps.

    We hereby release a random selection of correspondence, code, and documents.
    Hopefully it will give some insight into the science and the people behind it.

    This is a limited time offer, download now: http://ftp.tomcity.ru/incoming/free/FOI2009.zip

    Sample:

    0926010576.txt * Mann: working towards a common goal
    1189722851.txt * Jones: “try and change the Received date!”
    0924532891.txt * Mann vs. CRU
    0847838200.txt * Briffa & Yamal 1996: “too much growth in recent years makes it difficult to derive a valid age/growth curve”
    0926026654.txt * Jones: MBH dodgy ground
    1225026120.txt * CRU’s truncated temperature curve
    1059664704.txt * Mann: dirty laundry
    1062189235.txt * Osborn: concerns with MBH uncertainty
    0926947295.txt * IPCC scenarios not supposed to be realistic
    0938018124.txt * Mann: “something else” causing discrepancies
    0939154709.txt * Osborn: we usually stop the series in 1960
    0933255789.txt * WWF report: beef up if possible
    0998926751.txt * “Carefully constructed” model scenarios to get “distinguishable results”
    0968705882.txt * CLA: “IPCC is not any more an assessment of published science but production of results”
    1075403821.txt * Jones: Daly death “cheering news”
    1029966978.txt * Briffa – last decades exceptional, or not?
    1092167224.txt * Mann: “not necessarily wrong, but it makes a small difference” (factor 1.29)
    1188557698.txt * Wigley: “Keenan has a valid point”
    1118949061.txt * we’d like to do some experiments with different proxy combinations
    1120593115.txt * I am reviewing a couple of papers on extremes, so that I can refer to them in the chapter for AR4

  43. rbateman says:

    James Sexton says:
    August 10, 2010 at 9:56 pm

    Yes, you are correct, and the message given is that they won’t go quietly.
    They never were ones to be softspoken, and now they have lost thier cool.
    As some have said here, they will try to do by force what they originally planned to do by stealth.
    Bare knuckles rankle the masses.

  44. Pete Hayes. UK says:

    It never ceases to amaze me how Gore gets to speak at these conferences! Surely the AGW crowd must understand that he is laughed at by most of the free world with his nonsense!
    How many on the sceptical side have called his bluff and challenged him to debate the subject?
    I tend to think the U.S. Senate and the federal government have given up on Cap and trade after watching Gore make error after error. The Senators etc must know how much he has raked in financially as well!
    Lets home they keep dragging him along because he is always worth a giggle!

  45. William says:

    They are truly fanatics of the most Medieval kind. They are especially dangerous once you get them cornered.

  46. James Sexton says:

    evanmjones says:
    August 10, 2010 at 10:13 pm

    “GM is the sort I would want to persuade to look squarely at the fact that the observational evidence simply doesn’t add up to what the IPCC projects.”

    I think, if he were forced to assess the evidence of the IPCC, he wouldn’t hesitate to agree with you. CAGW isn’t his argument. He’s stated he is a Malthusian. In spite of all the vitriol, the CAGW crowd are, in most part, Malthusian. We have, and should continue to, beat them down at every avenue regarding CAGW/CC, but, this isn’t where the fight is. It is a “red herring”. Listen to the shift in the argument.(Cooling, warming, extremes, more warming, floods,…ect) It always comes back to the same theme. “We can’t continue to use up the earth’s resources.” The fact of the matter is, if we found some mineral on the moon we could use, people would object.

    People live, people breed, LIFE, in human terms, must be accommodated.

    Edward Gibbons put it better than I …….”We improve ourselves by victories over ourself. There must be contests, and you must win.”……..if this is true for the individual, how much greater is the truth for humanity?

    This is the greatest question before humanity today. Be it in the form of global warming, or climate change, or ecological overshoot, it is a contest that must be won. In spite of the great challenge, failure to do so is unimaginable.

  47. Gnomish says:

    Doug in Seattle says:
    August 10, 2010 at 9:53 pm

    The alarmists are letting the skeptics “think” they won. The plan is definitely on for the lame duck session. Don’t fool yourselves, these guys always play to win – at any cost!
    —————————————————————

    Such a simple truth. Winning is everything, isn’t it?

  48. 899 says:

    “Gore concedes …”

    Yeah.

    Funny —not really— how it is, that actually breaking out in a sweat, i.e., engaging is honest labor, seems anathema to earning a living anymore.

    Why is it, that when one is ‘born’ into the lap of luxury, that he condescendingly feels compelled to lord it over everyone else?

    Mr. Gore has likely never known an honest day’s work in his whole pitiful life, yet he would seek to ‘lord it’ over the rest of us.

    The hallmarks of his life are studied arrogance and condescension, just like Daddy.

  49. William says:

    Well said, Mr. Sexton.

  50. LevelGaze says:

    Gore was always just the stalking horse. Watch Soros!

  51. KTWO says:

    Sounds like a tantrum.

    He was so angry he forgot to blame Bush and Cheney? Wow, that really IS angry.

    I suspect Gore’s hedge funds and other schemes were long on US cap-and-trade and other energy legislation being passed this year.

    A setback that might keep him out of the billionaires club for the moment.

  52. Amino Acids in Meteorites says:

    You see, the reason the Gore Effect works so well is because of Al Gore’s snow job.

  53. D. King says:

    Smokey says:
    August 10, 2010 at 8:33 pm

    Great link Smokey.

    I’m angry and believe it’s time, since these groups
    refuse to drop this, to put them under intense scrutiny.
    We can start right here.

    http://tinyurl.com/27l5t4e

    Once the general public sees just where their money
    is coming from, they’ll nuke!
    I think they’ll reminisce about how good it was under
    Climategate.

  54. Rhys Jaggar says:

    This suggests WUWT folks should expect a shift of tactics.

    I guess they could embrace the data or become like terrorists.

    Time will tell.

  55. Rhoda R says:

    Every time Gore flaps his mouth I’m proud to live in Florida.

  56. Ale Gorney says:

    I’ve recently solved the P = NP problem and offered my solution to community. Its really too bad that certain people in physics/mathematical fields want to see the written proof. They don’t really have interest in understanding why my solution is the correct one, they’re just on a fishing expedition to discredit science. I wont deal with these people and thus the proof will remain at arms length.

    BTW, Gavin, can you delete the emails I sent to you on 2010/07/05.. Tell Mann and others to do the same thing.

  57. GeorgeGr says:

    On the topic of Malthusian theory, but off topic of this thread:
    Strange coincidence that somone named Malthus proposed them, seeing how some followers use this theory to grab power over other people? There is someone else in history named Malthus also:

  58. pwl says:

    How will Blood & Gore make money now that their soothsaying doomsday prophet scam is drying up and that The End is Nearer?

    http://pathstoknowledge.net/2009/12/16/blood-and-gore-maximize-green-profits-at-all-costs-including-goring-science-integrity-and-extracting-blood-and-taxes-from-the-developed-and-developing-world

    ” Generation Investment Management LLP (GIM) is a London-based investment management firm with an investment style that blends traditional equity research with a focus on sustainability factors, including social and environmental responsibility and corporate governance.

    Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore is chairman of Generation, and David Blood — previously chief executive of Goldman Sachs Asset Management — is CEO. The pair has given the company its nickname, “Blood and Gore.“

    Generation Investment Management LLP is authorized and regulated by the Financial Services Authority in the UK.

    Generation has built a global research platform to integrate sustainability research into fundamental equity analysis. The firm focuses on the economic, environmental, social, and governance risks and opportunities that can materially affect a company’s ability to sustain profitability and deliver returns.”

    Buy Blood & Gore Carbon Credits: The End is Nearer.
    http://pathstoknowledge.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/al-gore-the-end-is-nearer-buy-blood-and-gore-carbon-credits-2d.png

  59. GeorgeGr says:

    The citation seems to have gone missing in my last post. This is it:
    “In demonology, Malthus (also Halphas, Malthas, or Malthous) is an Earl of Hell, commanding 26 legions of demons, who is said to have a rough voice when speaking. He is often depicted in the shape of a stork.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthus_(demon)”

  60. UK Sceptic says:

    The US government failed to make Gore a billionaire in 2010. Diddums.

  61. Christopher Hanley says:

    ‘…..In a warm-up discussion before Gore addressed the call, National Wildlife Federation chief Larry Schweiger referred to the skeptics as “enemies” and that he hoped the alarmists would “outlive the bastards.”…..’

    What’s his problem?
    A warmer wetter climate (if that’s where we’re headed), with a CO2 enriched atmosphere (that’s inevitable), are the very conditions under which most life on Earth evolved and thrived.
    http://www.americanthinker.com/%231%20CO2EarthHistory.gif

    Even those cute poly bears survived the Eemian.

  62. Blade says:

    Robert says:
    August 10, 2010 at 10:12 pm

    “Bastard”? “Inglorious Bastards” please.

    Bingo. And a Proud Member to be sure.

    Inglourious Basterds …

    Fighting Fascism in all its Socialist permutations.

  63. morgo says:

    In australia ” Bastard “is used all the time it is a endering word , it’s all in what comes before you say Barstard that matters in australia . so I am very happy being called a skepitc” Bastard”

  64. Alan the Brit says:

    Well, well well, I never did! When they start to resort to profanity in the non-debate then the battle is all but %$£&?:;* over! Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy!:-))

  65. stephen richards says:

    The fact that this did not pass the house is a disaster. Look here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-10917611

    We are all going to die from heart attack. :)

  66. Mauibrad says:

    What? Only 6 times?

  67. Mauibrad says:

    Gotta say it…we kicked their asses! At least for this year… Don’t kid yourself, though, the carbon police “will be back.”

  68. MattyS says:

    Perhaps the debate can get back to being a grassroots, bottom-up movement, whereby people decide to make personal efforts to reduce their impacts on the planet, instead of having the opinions of others forced upon them.

    (ah, heck, who am I trying to kid…)

  69. David, UK says:

    Gore: “They [the skeptics] did damage and cast doubt.”

    Jolly decent of him to give credit where it’s due.

  70. Wijnand says:

    @ evanmjones who says:
    August 10, 2010 at 8:20 pm
    He needs to relax. Maybe get a good rubdown?

    8^)

    At least then he gets one happy ending…

  71. norah4you says:

    It does not seem to have entered in CO2-belivers nor into the so-called CO2 experts heads that. A volcano leaks large amounts of carbon dioxide during its entire active period….. I do hope that you reading my lines understand why they do have problems using Mauna Loa, the world’s largest active volcano to estimate the changes in CO-2 leaking into our Earth’s air…. If not please read When the fox counts the chickens, Norah4you page Please excuse spelling and grammar problems I do have such problems in my own language as well…..

  72. Hobo says:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100810/ap_on_sc/eu_ice_island;_ylt=AgjfC7HWG0DFCPvKU141nsEPLBIF;_ylu=X3oDMTJlZ2NhcWhmBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwODEwL2V1X2ljZV9pc2xhbmQEY3BvcwMxBHBvcwMyBHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcnkEc2xrA2h1Z2VpY2Vpc2xhbg–

    O guess there answer is to ramp up the fear factor, what else are they going to do….

    “It’s been a summer of near biblical climatic havoc across the planet, with wildfires, heat and smog in Russia and killer floods in Asia. But the moment the Petermann glacier cracked last week — creating the biggest Arctic ice island in half a century — may symbolize a warming world like no other.

    “It’s so big that you can’t prevent it from drifting. You can’t stop it,” said Jon-Ove Methlie Hagen, a glaciologist at the University of Oslo.

    Few images can capture the world’s climate fears like a 100-square- mile (260-sqare-kilometer) chunk of ice breaking off Greenland’s vast ice sheet, a reservoir of freshwater that if it collapsed would raise global sea levels by a devastating 20 feet (6 meters).”

  73. Kate says:

    Thank you so much, Gore. Thanks to you and your gang of “global warming” liars, we, in Britain, are now facing a massive rise in so-called “green taxes”. Your lying propaganda about carbon dioxide is the reason this corrupt racket has been imposed on Britain, and on the EU, and will be inflicted on the US if you can get away with it.

    Be warned, Americans, this is where it’s all leading, and is just a part of what you are in for…

    From September, thousands of British businesses will be liable for significant fines and charges under a new government “green tax” scheme. Companies that fail to register their energy use by next month will be hit with fines that could reach £45,000 under the new little-known rules. Those that do participate in the Carbon Reduction Commitment (CRC) initiative by declaring their energy use will face charges for every ton of so-called “greenhouse gas” they produce.

    These payments are expected to average £38,000 a year for medium-sized firms, and could reach £100,000 for larger organizations. Surveys have shown that thousands of businesses are unaware they are supposed to be taking part, or even that the scheme exists at all. The imposition of new charges and fines will put pressure on firms at a time when economists are warning of a “double dip” recession as companies, consumers and the public sector all cut their spending.

    Business leaders criticised the CRC — which was created by Labour but implemented by the Coalition — as “complex and bureaucratic”. One accused ministers of swinging “a big hammer” at companies and questioned whether it would have any environmental benefits.

    Under the scheme, any company or public sector organization that consumes more than 6,000 megawatt hours (MWh) of energy a year – meaning a power bill of about £500,000 – must register its energy use by the end of next month. From April, firms will need to buy permits for each tonne of carbon dioxide emitted. For those using 6,000MWh, that could mean £38,000. The scheme is intended to create a financial incentive to cut energy use, and those organizations that record the biggest reductions will get bonuses, funded by penalties imposed on those with the worst record.

    Of about 4,000 organizations estimated to qualify for the scheme, only 1,229 have registered to date, leaving thousands at risk of fines. Missing the Sept 30 deadline will mean an immediate £5,000 fine, and £500 for each day after that, up to a maximum of £45,000. Another 15,000 smaller organizations are also required to register and could be expected to buy permits in the future. If they miss the September deadline, they face fines of £500.

    One recent survey suggested that 53% of executives had not even heard of the CRC and did not know whether their firm was affected. Bob Jarrett, of the BHF-BSSA Group, a trade body that represents thousands of independent shops, said ministers had not done enough to explain or justify the CRC. “We’ve only come across this in the last few weeks, and yet the deadline is at the end of next month. The Department for Energy has not given this nearly enough publicity,” he said.

    The Environment Agency, which will run the scheme for the Government, has refused even to publish a list of the companies that are required to register, citing the Data Protection Act. The Coalition is pressing ahead with the CRC despite Conservative pledges to cut red-tape on businesses.

    …So there you have it. A scheme that has no environmental benefits will force your business (whatever size) to register with a government agency or face massive fines. Having registered, you then have to record how much “greenhouse gas” your company produces (at your own expense, of course). Then you just have to buy permits in order to carry on doing what you were doing in the first place, but if you buy too many permits you will also have to pay extra fines and penalties for your excessive “emissions”. And all this is because of the lying propaganda that has brainwashed a generation into believing that carbon dioxide is causing “catastrophic global warming”. That’s what AGW is really all about, and, thanks to Gore and his pack of liars, it’s heading for the US next.

  74. Al Gore's Holy Hologram says:

    Real scientific facts stick like glue and doubt cannot be cast on them. AGW was bad science.

  75. Robin Kool says:

    I understand Al Gore causes anger, but a few postings go to far in my opinion, namely:
    Dr. Dave (August 10, 2010 at 9:35 pm) who calls him a “dung heap” – I agree with the rest Dave says –
    and Brian Johnson uk (August 10, 2010 at 9:42 pm) who writes: “The Carbon Offset Trading Gore/Blood combo is totally covered in flies. Nasty, dirty lying flies.”

    I hope WUWT is and stays a blog where I can send my warmist friends to read up on the facts. The more we have a calm discussion of the facts, the more chance there is they will spend enough time on WUWT to assimilate the facts that free them from the warmist propaganda.

  76. Jimbo says:

    Bastards!!! This is a badge of honour my friends.

    ““They [the skeptics] did damage and cast doubt,” Gore said.”

    This is the job of a sceptic. Gore should now say “the debate is over” and let’s all find some usefull employments and earn an honest days work.

    As for the National Wildlife Federation they are well advised to steer well away from Gore and concentrate of protecting wildlife in general and forget about the trace gas co2. Co2 is at the base of the food pyramid chain whilewildlife is at the top. Can’t they see the bitter irony? Gore and his ilk may soon be tarred and feathered within a couple of years.

  77. Jimbo says:

    Here is one possible reason for calling us “bastards” namely:

    “Stung by the failure to secure a Senate vote on climate and energy legislation and wary of a possible GOP-led Congress, leaders of some of the country’s most influential green groups are moving cash and staff away from cap and trade……Meanwhile, the environmental community is split over any shift away from cap and trade.
    ……
    American Petroleum Institute President Jack Gerard said the climate bill died because it lacked public support, something that won’t improve by pursuing a strategy that emphasizes EPA, states and power plant permits given concerns about other pocketbook issues.

    “If they push too hard, there’s potential for further backlash,” Gerard said. “As they continue to raise the specter that they’re threatening jobs and economic recovery, then I think they’ve failed to listen closely to what the public is saying.”
    ……….
    “At this point, there’s going to be a rebellion,” said Sen. Dick Lugar (R-Ind.). “EPA is likely to see its powers substantially curtailed.””

    Source: Politico news

  78. Nev says:

    From my RSS reader…speaking of believers gone wild, here’s one who told a conference last week that, faced with a choice between planting trees for carbon credits or using the land for food production, “We must not think food is special”. It was a head to head debate between NIWA climate scientists and NZ-based skeptics Ian Wishart and Barry Brill. Interesting reading, and the believer walked out when the debate wasn’t going his way.

    http://briefingroom.typepad.com/the_briefing_room/2010/08/quote-of-the-month-we-must-not-think-that-food-is-special.html

  79. wws says:

    sometimes these web ads that pop up at random are the funniest parts of a page!

    When I read this, right at the end of the article detailing Al Gore’s frustration and anger was a picture of a sweet young thing with the big caption; “WANT A GIRLFRIEND?”

    ROFL!!!

  80. Smokey says:

    Al Gordo snivels. ☺

  81. Martin Hale says:

    Though I’m rather late to the party on this story, allow me to take on Mr. Gore’s assertion that the government has failed us.

    If the point of any form of representative democratic government is to provide a forum for the orderly debate of issues affecting the whole electorate, then it follows logically that all of the points of view within that electorate be provided at least as much credence and voice as they exist within the population at large. If the point of view held by Mr. Gore were the only point of view active within the whole population, then, yes, I would agree that the government has failed us by not enacting a federal legislative mandate.

    But that’s not the case.

    There are indeed other points of view held by those within the electorate, and in order for our representative democracy to actually do it’s job, those points of view must be provided the same credence and voice as Mr. Gore’s. Additionally, there’s the matter of perceived level of importance which must be taken into account. As our economic position has continued to erode, evidence continues to mount that the public at large place the whole climate change issue at a steadily lower level of importance as compared with other concerns. I don’t think that’s even particularly controversial at this point in time. People care much more about jobs, keeping their homes, the wars in which we’re engaged, than they are about climate change.

    So based on this brief analysis, since there are other points of view than Mr. Gore’s, and since the issue is declining in importance to most Americans, it’s axiomatic that our representatives to the government should rightly a) hear out both (or should I say all) sides in the debate, and b) ultimately turn their attention to the issues and concerns which weigh most heavily upon the minds of their constituents. Without doing both, they would indeed be failing us.

    Mr. Gore’s assertion that government is failing us is based entirely on the dual premises that they a) should have suppressed any points of view different than the one he holds, and b) they should have placed much greater importance on the issue than the body politic does. But those premises run contrary to the purposes of a real representative and democratic form of governance. Therefore, we can only interpret Mr. Gore’s statement in one way – his understanding of the fundamental role of representative democracy is faulty, because it’s only that faulty understanding which can support the conclusion that government failed us.

  82. ShrNfr says:

    Thank Adonai for Chad. Can you imagine where we would be with this cretin as the present dunce.

  83. Sean Peake says:

    “As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
    There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
    That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
    And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

    “And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
    When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
    As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
    The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!”

    While I in no way expect this war to be over, how much of a debt does the world owe the person(s) who leaked the emails from CRU?

  84. R. de Haan says:

    We are winning the argument but loose the battle.

    Green legislation is introduced in virtually every corner of our economies and nobody up to this moment in time has been able to stop this process.

  85. Gary says:

    “the government as a whole has failed us”

    - My nomination for QotW.

  86. rbateman says:

    Hobo says:
    August 11, 2010 at 2:40 am

    “It’s been a summer of near biblical climatic havoc across the planet, with wildfires, heat and smog in Russia and killer floods in Asia. But the moment the Petermann glacier cracked last week — creating the biggest Arctic ice island in half a century — may symbolize a warming world like no other.

    “It’s so big that you can’t prevent it from drifting. You can’t stop it,” said Jon-Ove Methlie Hagen, a glaciologist at the University of Oslo.

    During the Little Ice Age, when Ice that large was plowing down the Swiss Alps, nothing could stop it, except the prayers of 1 cardinal. See, this is what gets Warmist Alarmists into trouble. The public has caught on to the reverse logic, and they stop to think about it.
    When it rains too much, you get floods.
    When it snows too much, you get avalanches.
    When glaciers melt away, they recede.
    When glaciers are growing, they advance.
    Maurauding Killer Ice Masses are not a sign of warming at all, they never were, and they never will be.
    This is exactly how the Warmists have managed to wind up in a wheelchair of public opinion: They too many holes in thier feet.

  87. Henry chance says:

    Gore blamed the skeptics for “attacking science and scientists.” “They [the skeptics] did damage and cast doubt,” Gore said.

    It tells us we didn’t attack him because he is not associated with either science or being a scientist.

  88. latitude says:

    According to Gore, the planet is several million degrees right below the surface.

    And they say this is science and not a religion.

  89. Peter Stroud says:

    Well done America. Now in the UK we have this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/greenpolitics/taxandtheenvironment/7937911/Business-facing-a-wave-of-green-taxes.html Our ridiculous Climate Change Act is beginning to bite. Just when we need businesses to increase their profitability. Our Conservative/LibDem coalition is as pro CAWG as was Labour.

  90. John Whitman says:

    Well, I am going to try to say something about the climate science situation presented in this WUWT post without resorting to labels, tags or stereotypes.

    a) Some people are critical of some published pieces of climate science.

    b) Some people are publishing critical reviews of published pieces of climate science.

    c) Some people are actively engaged on a steep learning curve to understand climate science and in the process realize that all is not as they are told. The science has not been settled and there is nowhere near any kind of consensus.

    They (a, b, c above) are given a tag, a name and a stereotype that is insulting by other people. This implies that the other people are somehow threatened by the actions in a), b) & c) above. Note: several other behaviors by the other people occur as well that imply they are threatened by the some people.

    Why are they threatened, when the above (a, b, c) sound like the reasonable behavior of any free independent person?

    My evolving conclusion is that the “some people” above are facing a belief system that dominates the “other people”. It is my experience that it is fundamentally traumatic to a belief system to be questioned by any consistent use of the human tools of reason and logic. I perceive that any climate focused belief system is profoundly threatened by the reasonable behavior of any free independent person.

    There have been suggestions on this and other blogs of compromise on disputed climate science to bring the disputing parties together for the good of all. I cannot find merit that there should be any compromise on principle in science. As for the “good of all” tactic, that is the fundamental reason why the two parties are disputing climate science so intensely in the first place, so it cannot be the basis for agreement.

    The only solution to the dispute is the open practice of science. Everyone should see everything in climate science. Also, the peer review system should be opened up.

    There, I think I said something about the current climate science situation without using any bad names.

    John

  91. Robert says:

    Blade says:
    August 11, 2010 at 12:37 am

    Bingo.

    Col. Hans Landa: [giddy] Oooh, that’s a bingo!
    Col. Hans Landa: Is that the way you say it? “That’s a bingo?”
    Lt. Aldo Raine: You just say “bingo”.
    Col. Hans Landa: Bingo! How fun! But, I digress. Where were we?

    Yep, a bastard all the way, congratulations :P

  92. David Ball says:

    Once again the alarmists are misplacing the blame. The average person has been told of “catastrophic weather events” with “no more snowy winters”, “hurricanes out the wazoo”, blah, blah, blah. It is the good ol’ earth that has refuted their claims, but they dare not blame it on her. I think it is quite funny that to the alarmists, Katrina had signal the beginning of devastation from hurricane after hurricane. Has not turned out to be the case. Anthony, keep doing what you are doing, but apparently the earth does not need us to defend her.

  93. John from CA says:

    My opinion for what its worth:
    Its just a tactic to test support and leverage free publicity.
    If the Bill had been of any value, it would have been supported for its merits.
    He is simply playing the blame game to take the focus off the true issues.

  94. Mr Lynn says:

    R. de Haan says:
    August 11, 2010 at 6:10 am

    We are winning the argument but loose the battle.

    Green legislation is introduced in virtually every corner of our economies and nobody up to this moment in time has been able to stop this process.

    And watch out for the lame-duck session after the November elections. The radical left will not give up easily.

    /Mr Lynn

  95. Tamara says:

    he hoped the alarmists would “outlive the bastards.”

    Not possible, Larry. Our side still believes in reproduction. I’ll be passing on my skepticism along with my genes.

  96. Russell C says:

    “…Gore bitterly blamed a ‘biased right-wing media… bolstered by professional deniers.’ Gore claimed the Wall Street Journal published 30 editorial and news articles about Climategate and ‘not a single one presented [his] side of the science.’ ”

    Oh, the irony of it all. I believe I proved in my 7/29 American Thinker article “The Left and Its Talking Points” http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/07/the_left_and_its_talking_point.html that his side of the issue was almost exclusively presented ever since 1996 on one particular main stream media outlet. He would be hard pressed to say the other news outlets gave him any less coverage or any usable amount of skeptic science that would have changed the average uninformed citizen’s mind about AGW.

  97. Ed Murphy says:

    Calling all global warming/cooling alarmists!

    Here’s where the answer to rapid warmings and coolings is… how they happen. We don’t need a bunch of confu$ion from profiteer$ of doom$, we need proper volcanic gas plume altitude monitoring and the temperature record to be accurate and not manipulated. Read the parts about ozone destruction, Al. Also ‘Year Without a Summer’

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratospheric_sulfur_aerosols

    Timetable of major worldwide volcanic eruptions
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timetable_of_major_worldwide_volcanic_eruptions

    Main article: Global dimming
    The Global dimming through volcanism (ash aerosol and sulfur dioxide) is quite independent of the eruption VEI.[79][80][81] When sulfur dioxide (boiling point at standard state: -10°C) reacts with water vapor, it creates sulfate ions (the precursors to sulfuric acid), which are very reflective; ash aerosol on the other hand absorbs Ultraviolet.

    So at low altitude you get warming, at stratosphere level or above its the opposite. But it always contributes to later warmings in a few ways. Ozone destruction and low atmosphere loading of aerosols.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcanic_winter

    More on ozone destruction…
    Volcanic Gases and Their Effects
    http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/hazards/gas/index.php

    To a small extent man does contribute, but something like Eyjafjallajökull can easily overwhelm that. I look for the oceans to quickly warm back up unless we get a good size high altitude eruption or two(3) pretty soon.

  98. Alan F says:

    The Church of Climatology, like all religions, needs an adversarial backdrop to display their piety against and a scape goat to shoulder the burden of their own all too frequent failures.

    I doubt L.Ron Hubbard could have ever imagined, in his all too fertile mind, Al Gore being able to out wacky him so thoroughly.

  99. Enneagram says:

    We should deeply thank HIM for his astounding feat of convincing everybody that Global Warming/Climate Change and all associated mantras were a JOKE.
    Only fools now believe.

  100. Enneagram says:

    RockyRoad:
    The screwtype letters?

  101. Enneagram says:

    Perhaps he tried to sell carbon shares to the Chinese….so he is a bit depressed about the market perspectives. Perhaps bankruptcy is stalking him.

  102. Enneagram says:

    Hey buddy:

    What goes up must come down
    spinning wheel got to go round
    Talking about your troubles it’s a crying sin
    Ride a painted pony
    Let the spinning wheel spin

    You got no money, and you, you got no home
    Spinning wheel all alone
    Talking about your troubles and you, you never learn
    Ride a painted pony
    let the spinning wheel turn

    Did you find a directing sign
    on the straight and narrow highway?
    Would you mind a reflecting sign
    Just let it shine within your mind
    And show you the colours that are real

    Someone is waiting just for you
    spinning wheel is spinning true
    Drop all your troubles, by the river side
    Catch a painted pony
    On the spinning wheel ride

  103. Enneagram says:

    R. de Haan says:
    August 11, 2010 at 6:10 am
    Don’t be so negative. Everything will be fixed in about one minute, 4 seconds and 3 tenths that some far east country starts selling some occidental bonds.

  104. hunter says:

    When Gore first ran for President in 1988, Doonesberry (in its funny days) would show Gore as a spolied royal child.
    Nothing he has done irt climate makes that caricature any less insightful.

  105. Pascvaks says:

    There’s an al-a-gorey here somewhere. Conceding that his skeptics are bastards does not a surrender make. And Al’s War goes on and on and on and…

  106. Pamela Gray says:

    Logic mistake:

    If it’s “near Biblical” then it is not unprecedented, has been worse, and therefore is not evidence of man-made warming.
    sarc off

  107. ChrisH says:

    Al Gore issues another one-way communication in a venue where his hilarious claims will be insulated from the least scrutiny? Say it ain’t so!

  108. Tenuc says:

    Another round goes to the ‘null hypothesis’ army, if USA continues to delay Carbon Tax until after 2010! Perhaps the coming NH winter will provide another knock-out blow, as the indicators are showing we’re in for a bad one.

  109. Alvin Warwas says:

    Re: Dave Worley ‘watch flank’ at 8/10/10
    Indeed. Since the House already passed a bill all the
    Senate has to do is pass the exact same thing.
    We could have a really bad Christmas season.

  110. Henry chance says:

    1 I
    2 we
    3 they
    4 all of the above

    …………….Just not that into you Al.
    You didn’t seem to get it when you tried to change a massage into more than conversation.
    Tall tales and trying so hard to scare the children is a character flaw Al.

  111. Enneagram says:

    Funny indeed:
    The Herschell Gordon Lewis Collection (The Gore Gore Girls / A Taste of Blood / She-Devils on Wheels / The Gruesome Twosome / The Wizard of Gore / Something Weird) (1972)
    http://www.amazon.com/Herschell-Collection-She-Devils-Gruesome-Something/dp/B00029RSWC

  112. Mike McMillan says:

    National Wildlife Federation chief Larry Schweiger referred to the skeptics as “enemies” and that he hoped the alarmists would “outlive the bastards.”

    I can’t speak for Mr Schweiger, but my parents were married.

  113. R. de Haan says:

    The next bunch of measures to shake us out and shackle us are prepared outside the scope of climate change but the effects will be the same.
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/08/the_livable_communities_act_1.html

    Their intend is to put the break on human civilization.

  114. Enneagram says:

    Blood Spill Crisis=Gore :-)

  115. Gerry says:

    Gore: “The federal government has failed us…”

    Let me fix that for you Al,

    “The federal government has failed to LINE MY POCKETS!”

    Truth in advertising, Al…..

  116. Dr A Burns says:

    If I’d made over $100,000,000 from the AGW scam like Mr Gore, I’d be calling my opponents names too.

  117. R. de Haan says:

    You can’t make this up:
    Failure to address Climate Change,” The worst ethics scandal on Capitol Hill”
    http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/11/the-worst-ethics-scandal-on-capitol-hill/

  118. Bob Diaz says:

    I’d say that name calling is a sign that Gore is running out of time and ammo.

  119. Mauibrad says:

    Audio of Conference Call at “Al Gore Complains about Global Warming Media Coverage; Blasts The Wall Street Journal on ClimateGate”
    By Jeff Poor Wed, 08/11/2010 – 08:37 ET

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2010/08/11/al-gore-complains-global-warming-media-coverage-blasts-wall-street-journa

  120. Robert says:

    Dr A Burns says:
    August 11, 2010 at 3:36 pm

    If I’d made over $100,000,000 from the AGW scam like Mr Gore, I’d be calling my opponents names too.

    A good thing that he has no ties with the Maffia, they tend to do more than just name-calling.

  121. P.G. Sharrow says:

    Big AL preaches to the congregation of believers and gets to pick up a $150,000 check. What a racket. Gore and his partners sold a large share of their carbon credit exchange to East European investors a few months ago. (Soros?) He bought a big mansion on the California coast. ( melting ice fields will drown it?). This guy is not a fool, just a conman.

    This skeptical bastard thinks Albert Gore is his own worst enemy.

  122. Bill Tuttle says:

    Robert: August 11, 2010 at 9:56 pm
    A good thing that he has no ties with the Maffia, they tend to do more than just name-calling.

    He’d a-been whacked a long time ago. Purely accidental, of course. The boys don’t like it that somebody should get too high-profile, yanno?

  123. Bill Tuttle says:

    “They [the skeptics] did damage and cast doubt,” Gore said.

    That explains Al’s ire. He’s confused “skeptic” with “heretic”…

  124. goldie says:

    When pressed really hard, most warmists will result to the killer tactic of citing the precautionary principle to bolster their lack of empiricism. I concur, a lack of full scientific certainty should not preclude appropriate action. However, appropriate action does not include; abusive name calling, jostling elected members or damaging other persons property. In behaving in this manner they only diminish anything they might choose to say, true or otherwise.

  125. Bill Tuttle says:

    This is what the Book Of Anthropogenesis looked like on Earth Day, 1970.

    Kenneth Watt, Ecology Guru:

    “The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”

    and

    “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”

    Yeah. He said “nitrogen buildup”…

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