I’m glad Dr. Roger Pielke Jr. said this, because it is long overdue.
“More than any individual — James Inhofe and Marc Morano included — Joe Romm is responsible for creating a poisonous, negative atmosphere in the climate debate. Responsible voices should say so, this nonsense has gone on long enough.”
Read the complete essay and the reason for this pronouncement here.
The Center for American Progress, the organization that funds Climate Progress, would do well to reconsider their spokesman on climate, or at the very least, rein him in a bit.
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It might be a good idea to rein him in as he is not a monarch and so cannot be reigned.
[Fixed, thanx. ~dbs, mod.]
Yes – well said Dr. Pielke. Romm clearly has “issues”.
Amazing that so many commenters on the blog think that concatenating a couple of sentences or allegedly misplacing quotation marks is a hanging offence, but correspondence apparently about suppressing opposing views and destroying data is just a misunderstanding of what the writers meant and no cause for concern.
The Center for American Progress is a political organization. George Soros is a major funder of it. It is not a scientific organization. This is more evidence that global warming is a political issue not a scientific one.
would do well to reconsider their spokesman on climate, or at the very least, reign him in a bit
I can’t imagine they want to reign him in. I think he is what they want.
Bullying, intimidation, isolation, exclusion, misinformation, scaring, manipulating, fraud, false acquisitions, threats, you name it, they’ve got it.
All part of the new system: Garbage in Money Out.
Amen.
I think Joe is doing a great job – for us.
Long may he rant.
The alarmist/warmist side is 99% responsible for the poisonous atmosphere that hangs around the vital area like a dark cloud.
Elements of the sceptic side have had to respond if not in kind then shall we say vigorously and being far outnumbered and attacked in the most reprehensible ways imaginable subject to vitriolic personal attacks for years. Life for the few brave voices of dissent has been hellish.
The refusal of the alarmists to enter into reasonable and rational dialogue is solely down to the alarmist side as we all know too well, if some people have been forced to respond to the alarmist tactics as a defence mechanism then I feel many would understand that. The refusal to engage, the dirty tricks, the hate campaigns, the spiteful revenge of those who control the purse strings and the utterly blatant media bias will be seen in the future as the hallmark of the failed AGW theory.
BTW we sceptics owe James Inhoffe a massive debt of gratitude, he was our Johnny on the spot in the vipers nest of Washington DC, he almost singlehandedly fought off the depredations of the AGW fanatics at the seat of political power, history will judge him kindly although men like him dont do what they do for petty baubles and the mobs shallow gratitude.
Let him reign there in his kingdom, hoisting himself and his chums on various petards of their own devising.
tallbloke says:
August 6, 2010 at 4:10 am
Seconded!
I don’t really agree with throwing in Jim Inhofe’s name among those making this a toxic debate. As mentioned above, skeptics owe him a debt of gratitude for his work in the Senate, being a voice of reason.
Joe Romm. Never heard of him and have no desire to.
Have to agree with Tallbloke – Joe is doing a great job and should be encouraged at any opportunity.
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At 4:12 AM on 6 August, Cassandra King had written:
“BTW we sceptics owe James Inhoffe a massive debt of gratitude, he was our Johnny on the spot in the vipers nest of Washington DC, he almost singlehandedly fought off the depredations of the AGW fanatics at the seat of political power, history will judge him kindly although men like him dont do what they do for petty baubles and the mobs shallow gratitude.”
I am disinclined – in the extreme – to credit Sen. Inholfe (Court Party, Oklahoma) with anything remotely resembling moral or intellectual integrity. Just as I recall former Sen. Bob Dole (RINO, Kansas) serving blatantly the role of political whore for Archer Daniels Midland, Sen. Inholfe has acted with regard to the anthropogenic global warming fraud (and the Climategate revelations) in accord with his Oil Patch sources of funding.
I would sooner praise a Mafia underboss for ordering the death of a freelance drug pusher in his territory than extol the supposed “virtues” of a lifelong Red faction wheelhorse who has been playing the “go along to get along” game for decades as a participant in the big Boot On Your Neck Party maskirovka by which we are fed the illusion of choice at the polls.
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I agree C3. Roger’s deft bit of calumny totally stains an otherwise good article.
“More than any individual — James Inhofe and Marc Morano included — Joe Romm is responsible for creating a poisonous, negative atmosphere in the climate debate. Responsible voices should say so, this nonsense has gone on long enough.”
only if you read what he has to say – I choose to avoid him.
Amino Acids in Meteorites says:
“The Center for American Progress is a political organization. George Soros is a major funder of it. It is not a scientific organization. This is more evidence that global warming is a political issue not a scientific one. ”
I have read that the WWF has a financial interest in the prospect of part of the rain forest being declared a carbon sink and being granted carbon credits. Further down the line Lord Oxburgh (of the notorious report fame) chairs a company that makes its money from wind turbines. Major car manufacturers are spending millions on the development of electric vehicles despite the fact that these may actually be less carbon efficient than petrol or diesel engines.
There are still a number of concerned environemtalists who believe that much, if not all, the scepticism as regards anthropogenic global warming is funded by large oil companies. Is it not time for the sources of funding for the proponents of the hypothesis that all climate change is manmade to be investigated and the results published?
There is now so much money to be made by being “green” that the credentials of climate lobbyists and their political supporters should be given at least the same exposure as that given to their opponents.
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At 5:12 AM on 6 August, Gnomish had written:
“Roger [Pielke Jr.]’s deft bit of calumny totally stains an otherwise good article.”
In order for Dr. Pielke’s characterization of Dr. Romm (and in particular his description of the specific “attack [perpetrated by Dr. Romm as] …unhinged and bizarre“) to be calumny, Dr. Pielke’s opinion (including the rest of that concluding paragraph) must be untrue.
Dr. Pielke having made an argument supporting his conclusion, is it really possible to describe his characterization of this rabid warmist weasel as aught but truthful?
Detraction it might be, but calumny? Nah.
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R. de Haan @ur momisugly 3:50 AM
Garbage In Much Money Emitted or GIMME.
Joe is a paid political propagandist, and his paymasters aren’t paying enough attention to see that he is counterproductive. Be fearful of when he’s silenced; the really effective disinformation begins then.
Oh, have I told you yet that he banned me at his blog? Heh.
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Many people detect in Romm’s style indications that since he is so over the top in his promotion of a climate catastrophe the opposite is likely true.
Let him keep at it.
Romm, the RC gang, the whitewash reviews, the implosion of Mann, all help people see that CAGW is a social movement disconnected from reality.
There is an entirely different character to name calling on blogs, and that done by major media and big name scientists. When Nature uses the term “denier” THIS is poisonous. When Mann, who gives hundreds of interviews per year, insists that deniers are well-funded by the oil industry, when Hansen calls for coal executives to be tried for crimes against humanity, when Jones and buddies get editors of journals fired, this is dangerous stuff.
I could NOT agree more with Roger’s assessment. Romm is absolutely completely out of control, and he is NOT giving “those guys” a good name. At all. On another forum, just this week I said exactly this: “Romm is a shrill, [snip], slanderous [snip]. [OTT for this for forum ~mod]
Craig is right and so is Roger jnr. Inhofe and Morano should open the door, step aside and let a more lucid and accurate person take the stand. They do as much damage as Romm. I also believe that leaving Romm to rant and rave is good for the skeptics.
It is quite absurd for Pielke to lump Sen. Inhofe and Marc Morano together with Romm. Both have worked indefatigably to shine the light of truth on the AGW fraud while exposing the lies, distortions and true agenda –emissions trading and energy taxes — of the “climate change” movement.
Free speech…..worth way more than what it costs.