Spotting the Solar Regime Shifts Driving Earth's Climate

Some people cite scientists saying there is a “CO2 control knob” for Earth. No doubt there is, but due to the logarithmic effect of CO2, I think of it like a fine tuning knob, not the main station tuner. That said, a new data picture is emerging of an even bigger knob and lever; a nice bright yellow one.

The ultimate power shifter - artwork by Anthony - click to enlarge

A few months back, I found a website from NOAA that provides an algorithm and downloadable program for spotting regime shifts in time series data. It was designed by Sergei Rodionov of the NOAA Bering Climate and Ecosystem Center for the purpose of detecting shifts in the Pacific Decadal Oscillation.

Regime shifts are defined as rapid reorganizations of ecosystems from one relatively stable state to another. In the marine environment, regimes may last for several decades and shifts often appear to be associated with changes in the climate system. In the North Pacific, climate regimes are typically described using the concept of Pacific Decadal Oscillation. Regime shifts were also found in many other variables as demonstrated in the Data section of this website (select a variable and then click “Recent trends”).

But data is data, and the program doesn’t care if it is ecosystem data, temperature data, population data, or solar data. It just looks for and identifies abrupt changes that stabilize at a new level. For example, a useful application of the program is to look for shifts in weather data, such as that caused by the PDO. Here we can clearly see the great Pacific Climate Shift of 1976/77:

Another useful application is to use it to identify station moves that result in a temperature shift. It might also be applied to proxy data, such as ice core Oxygen 18 isotope data.

But the program was developed around the PDO. What drives the PDO? Many say the sun, though there are other factors too. It follows to reason then the we might be able to look for solar regime shifts in PDO driven temperature data.

Alan of AppInSys found the same application and has done just that, and the results are quite interesting. The correlation is well aligned, and it demonstrates the solar to PDO connection quite well. I’ll let him tell his story of discovery below. – Anthony

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Climate Regime Shifts

The notion that climate variations often occur in the form of ‘‘regimes’’ began to become appreciated in the 1990s. This paradigm was inspired in large part by the rapid change of the North Pacific climate around 1977 [e.g., Kerr, 1992] and the identification of other abrupt shifts in association with the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) [Mantua et al., 1997].” [http://www.beringclimate.noaa.gov/regimes/Regime_shift_algorithm.pdf]

Pacific Regime Shifts

Hare and Mantua, 2000 (“Empirical evidence for North Pacific regime shifts in 1977 and 1989”): “It is now widely accepted that a climatic regime shift transpired in the North Pacific Ocean in the winter of 1976–77. This regime shift has had far reaching consequences for the large marine ecosystems of the North Pacific. Despite the strength and scope of the changes initiated by the shift, it was 10–15 years before it was fully recognized. Subsequent research has suggested that this event was not unique in the historical record but merely the latest in a succession of climatic regime shifts. In this study, we assembled 100 environmental time series, 31 climatic and 69 biological, to determine if there is evidence for common regime signals in the 1965–1997 period of record. Our analysis reproduces previously documented features of the 1977 regime shift, and identifies a further shift in 1989 in some components of the North Pacific ecosystem. The 1989 changes were neither as pervasive as the 1977 changes nor did they signal a simple return to pre-1977 conditions.”

[http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V7B-41FTS3S-2…]

Overland et al “North Pacific regime shifts: Definitions, issues and recent transitions”

[http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/foci/publications/2008/overN667.pdf]: “climate variables for the North Pacific display shifts near 1977, 1989 and 1998.”

The following figure from the above paper show analysis of PDO and Victoria Index using the Rodionov regime detection algorithm. A regime shift is also detected around 1947-48.

The following figure shows regime shift detection for the summer PDO, showing shifts at 1948, 1976 and 1998.

[http://www.beringclimate.noaa.gov/data/Images/PDOs_FigRegime.html]

(For detailed information on the 1976/77 climate shift,

see: http://www.appinsys.com/GlobalWarming/The1976-78ClimateShift.htm)

Regime Shift Detection in Annual Temperature Anomaly Data

The NOAA Bering Climate web site provides the algorithm for regime shift detection developed by Sergei Rodionov [http://www.beringclimate.noaa.gov/regimes/index.html]. The following analyses use the Excel VBA regime change algorithm version 3.2 from this web site.

The following figure shows the regime analysis of the HadCRUT3 annual global annual average temperature anomaly data from the Met Office Hadley Centre for 1895 to 2009 [http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcrut3/diagnostics/global/nh+sh/annual].

The analysis was run based on the mean using a significance level of 0.1, cut-off length of 10 and Huber weight parameter of 2 using red noise IP4 subsample size 6. Regime changes are identified in 1902, 1914, 1926, 1937, 1946, 1957, 1977, 1987, and 1997. Running the analysis based on the variance rather than the mean results in regime changes in the bold years listed above.

Regime Shift Relationship to Solar Cycle

The NASA Solar Physics web site provides the following figure showing sunspot area.

[http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/SunspotCycle.shtml]

The following figure compares the Hadley (HadCrut3) monthly global average temperature (from [http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcrut3/diagnostics/global/nh+sh/]) overlaid with the regime change line (red line) shown previously, along with the sunspot area since 1900. The sunspot cycle is approximately 11 years. The sun’s magnetic field reverses with each sunspot cycle and thus after two sunspot cycles the magnetic field has completed a cycle – a Hale Cycle – and is back to where it started. Thus a complete magnetic sunspot cycle is approximately 22 years. The figure marks the onset of odd-numbered cycles with a vertical red line, even-numbered cycles with a green line.

From the figure above it can be seen that the regime changes correspond to the onset of solar cycles and occur when the “butterfly” is at its widest. The most significant warming regime shifts occur at the start of odd-numbered cycles (1937, 1957, 1977, 1997). Each odd-numbered cycle (red lines above) has resulted in a temperature-increase regime shift. Even-numbered cycles (green lines above) have been inconsistent, with some resulting in temperature-decrease regime shifts (1902, 1946) or minor temperature-increase shifts (1926, 1987).

An unusual one is the 1957 – 1966 cycle, which in the monthly data shown above visually looks like a temperature-increase shift in 1957 followed by a temperature-decrease shift in 1964 but the regime detection algorithm did not identify it. This is likely due to the use of annually averaged data in the regime detection algorithm.

The following figure shows the relative polarity of the Sun’s magnetic poles for recent sunspot cycles along with the solar magnetic flux [www.bu.edu/csp/nas/IHY_MagField.ppt]. The regime change periods are highlighted by the red and green boxes. Each one occurs on as the solar cycle is accelerating. The onset of an odd-numbered sunspot cycle (1977-78, 1997-98) results in the relative alignment of the Earth’s and the Sun’s magnetic fields (positive North pole on the Sun) allowing greater penetration of the geomagnetic storms into the Earth’s atmosphere. “Twenty times more solar particles cross the Earth’s leaky magnetic shield when the sun’s magnetic field is aligned with that of the Earth compared to when the two magnetic fields are oppositely directed” [http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/themis/news/themis_leaky_shield.html]

The following figure shows the longitudinally averaged solar magnetic field. This “magnetic butterfly diagram” shows that the sunspots are involved with transporting the field in its reversal. The Earth’s temperature regime shifts are indicated with the superimposed boxes – red on odd numbered solar cycles, green on even.

[http://solarphysics.livingreviews.org/open?pubNo=lrsp-2010-1&page=articlesu8.html]

The Earth’s temperature regime shift occurs as the solar magnetic field begins its reversal.

Solar Cycle 24

Solar cycle 24 is in its initial stage after getting off to a late start. An El Nino occurred in the first part of 2010. This may be the start of the next regime shift.

Climate Regime Shifts

[last update: 2010/07/04]

The notion that climate variations often occur in the form of ‘‘regimes’’ began to become appreciated in the 1990s. This paradigm was inspired in large part by the rapid change of the North Pacific climate around 1977 [e.g., Kerr, 1992] and the identification of other abrupt shifts in association with the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) [Mantua et al., 1997].” [http://www.beringclimate.noaa.gov/regimes/Regime_shift_algorithm.pdf]

Pacific Regime Shifts

Hare and Mantua, 2000 (“Empirical evidence for North Pacific regime shifts in 1977 and 1989”): “It is now widely accepted that a climatic regime shift transpired in the North Pacific Ocean in the winter of 1976–77. This regime shift has had far reaching consequences for the large marine ecosystems of the North Pacific. Despite the strength and scope of the changes initiated by the shift, it was 10–15 years before it was fully recognized. Subsequent research has suggested that this event was not unique in the historical record but merely the latest in a succession of climatic regime shifts. In this study, we assembled 100 environmental time series, 31 climatic and 69 biological, to determine if there is evidence for common regime signals in the 1965–1997 period of record. Our analysis reproduces previously documented features of the 1977 regime shift, and identifies a further shift in 1989 in some components of the North Pacific ecosystem. The 1989 changes were neither as pervasive as the 1977 changes nor did they signal a simple return to pre-1977 conditions.”

[http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V7B-41FTS3S-2…]

Overland et al “North Pacific regime shifts: Definitions, issues and recent transitions”

[http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/foci/publications/2008/overN667.pdf]: “climate variables for the North Pacific display shifts near 1977, 1989 and 1998.”

The following figure from the above paper show analysis of PDO and Victoria Index using the Rodionov regime detection algorithm. A regime shift is also detected around 1947-48.

The following figure shows regime shift detection for the summer PDO, showing shifts at 1948, 1976 and 1998.

[http://www.beringclimate.noaa.gov/data/Images/PDOs_FigRegime.html]

(For detailed information on the 1976/77 climate shift,

see: http://www.appinsys.com/GlobalWarming/The1976-78ClimateShift.htm)

Regime Shift Detection in Annual Temperature Anomaly Data

The NOAA Bering Climate web site provides the algorithm for regime shift detection developed by Sergei Rodionov [http://www.beringclimate.noaa.gov/regimes/index.html]. The following analyses use the Excel VBA regime change algorithm version 3.2 from this web site.

The following figure shows the regime analysis of the HadCRUT3 annual global annual average temperature anomaly data from the Met Office Hadley Centre for 1895 to 2009 [http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcrut3/diagnostics/global/nh+sh/annual].

The analysis was run based on the mean using a significance level of 0.1, cut-off length of 10 and Huber weight parameter of 2 using red noise IP4 subsample size 6. Regime changes are identified in 1902, 1914, 1926, 1937, 1946, 1957, 1977, 1987, and 1997. Running the analysis based on the variance rather than the mean results in regime changes in the bold years listed above.

Regime Shift Relationship to Solar Cycle

The NASA Solar Physics web site provides the following figure showing sunspot area.

[http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/SunspotCycle.shtml]

The following figure compares the Hadley (HadCrut3) monthly global average temperature (from [http://hadobs.metoffice.com/hadcrut3/diagnostics/global/nh+sh/]) overlaid with the regime change line (red line) shown previously, along with the sunspot area since 1900. The sunspot cycle is approximately 11 years. The sun’s magnetic field reverses with each sunspot cycle and thus after two sunspot cycles the magnetic field has completed a cycle – a Hale Cycle – and is back to where it started. Thus a complete magnetic sunspot cycle is approximately 22 years. The figure marks the onset of odd-numbered cycles with a vertical red line, even-numbered cycles with a green line.

From the figure above it can be seen that the regime changes correspond to the onset of solar cycles and occur when the “butterfly” is at its widest. The most significant warming regime shifts occur at the start of odd-numbered cycles (1937, 1957, 1977, 1997). Each odd-numbered cycle (red lines above) has resulted in a temperature-increase regime shift. Even-numbered cycles (green lines above) have been inconsistent, with some resulting in temperature-decrease regime shifts (1902, 1946) or minor temperature-increase shifts (1926, 1987).

An unusual one is the 1957 – 1966 cycle, which in the monthly data shown above visually looks like a temperature-increase shift in 1957 followed by a temperature-decrease shift in 1964 but the regime detection algorithm did not identify it. This is likely due to the use of annually averaged data in the regime detection algorithm.

The following figure shows the relative polarity of the Sun’s magnetic poles for recent sunspot cycles along with the solar magnetic flux [www.bu.edu/csp/nas/IHY_MagField.ppt]. The regime change periods are highlighted by the red and green boxes. Each one occurs on as the solar cycle is accelerating. The onset of an odd-numbered sunspot cycle (1977-78, 1997-98) results in the relative alignment of the Earth’s and the Sun’s magnetic fields (positive North pole on the Sun) allowing greater penetration of the geomagnetic storms into the Earth’s atmosphere. “Twenty times more solar particles cross the Earth’s leaky magnetic shield when the sun’s magnetic field is aligned with that of the Earth compared to when the two magnetic fields are oppositely directed” [http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/themis/news/themis_leaky_shield.html]

The following figure shows the longitudinally averaged solar magnetic field. This “magnetic butterfly diagram” shows that the sunspots are involved with transporting the field in its reversal. The Earth’s temperature regime shifts are indicated with the superimposed boxes – red on odd numbered solar cycles, green on even.

[http://solarphysics.livingreviews.org/open?pubNo=lrsp-2010-1&page=articlesu8.html]

The Earth’s temperature regime shift occurs as the solar magnetic field begins its reversal.

Solar Cycle 24

Solar cycle 24 is in its initial stage after getting off to a late start. An El Nino occurred in the first part of 2010. This may be the start of the next regime shift.

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The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley
July 5, 2010 12:17 am

For very busy people like me, a ‘Conclusion’ paragraph would have been great.

rms
July 5, 2010 12:53 am

Agree with Jim.

July 5, 2010 12:58 am

A positive Indian Ocean Dipole and a cool PDO means big floods in the land of Oz.

Adolf Balik
July 5, 2010 12:58 am

The same wrote in his essays Theodor Landscheid in 1990th and early in the current dacade:
http://landscheidt.auditblogs.com/papers-by-dr-theodor-landscheidt/

July 5, 2010 1:17 am

If I remember correctly, there is a self-appointed “world’s foremost Solar scientist,” very popular among some people frequenting the WUWT site, who repetitiously proclaimed that anybody asserting any connection between Solar cycles and climate changes is not worthy of any consideration, since the Sun cannot affect climate, period.
I also recall that one of the moderators, residing in San Francisco, has been very supportive toward this prominent scientist, to the deplorable extent of certain editorial bias in his favor.
He laughs best who laughs last.

rbateman
July 5, 2010 1:18 am

SC20 should have been regime change down, as was SC14. The reason it did not is because the temp data has been monkeyed with. Remember, SC20 is the 70’s Cooling Period. It was also a long cycle, as was SC14.
RGO is a high-quality database until SC20. Afterwards, one should use Debrecen / 1.1

Amino Acids in Meteorites
July 5, 2010 1:25 am

Interesting. So it’s the sun. The sun also influences El Nino and La Nina, doesn’t it? Seems it does.
……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
Chris de Freitas with a little about 1976 Great Pacific Climate Shift

July 5, 2010 1:30 am

What mechanism causes the shifts in global temperatures and how can it be tied back to solar variability? Also, the upward shifts in 1925 and 1986/87 occurred at even cycles and they are approximately the same magnitude as the other lesser shifts that occurred at odd cycles.

Steven mosher
July 5, 2010 1:41 am

Alexander.
WRT the algorithm in question. you might take a look at it. I downloaded it a couple years ago and turned some people onto it over at CA. after playing around with it it became clear that I could tune the thing to fit my assumptions. Hint: if he set the cuttoff length at 11 instead of 10 the trick would have been too obvious. By diddling
the noise parameter and the p value you can make all sorts of pretty pictures.
Further, the series being correlated is as everybody knows.. highly massaged and infected with UHI. Basically, without a specific physical mechanism ( the missing CONCLUSION) this is numerology, al beit slightly more interesting than other attempts.

July 5, 2010 1:50 am

That would be fine if it is only possible solution.
Here I have superimposed the Geomagnetic Z flux of the dominant Hudson Bay – Greenland area, where the Arctic currents enter Labrador Sea.
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/NFC12.htm
Original graph can be found here:
http://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/docs/00/41/83/04/PDF/NATA.pdf
‘The warm water current branching of the North Atlantic Current and combination of the Arctic cold currents create Labrador Sea currents; this tightly governs the strength of the Subpolar gyre’s circulation, which is the engine of the heat transport across the North Atlantic Ocean.’

Amino Acids in Meteorites
July 5, 2010 1:55 am

Steven mosher says:
July 5, 2010 at 1:41 am
Why is it when the sun influencing climate comes up it is shot down? The earth is in the sun’s atmosphere. Changes in the sun must make for changes on the earth. It doesn’t make sense that it would have no effect.

July 5, 2010 1:59 am

vukcevic says: July 5, 2010 at 1:50 am
……..
May I add that the same type analysis produces high correlation with the Arctic temperature Anomaly and the Atlantic multidecadal oscillation (AMO)
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/NFC1.htm
and is in good agreement with CETs all the way back to Maunder Minimum.
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/CETlmt.htm

July 5, 2010 2:12 am

Steven,
I hear you. Yes, it is often possible to massage the data and to play with parameters to fit assumptions. Any UN statistical analysis and modeling, not only by the IPCC, and not only climatology-connected, is manipulated by definition. It may very well be that this is the case here.
My point is, climate DOES change depending on Solar cycles. I know it because I lived through about five of these cycles, and observed the climate. And I would rather believe my own perception than anybody’s “credentials.”
Mechanism? Uncertain. Correlation? Obvious. What does it mean? We must explain the mechanism, instead of telling people who notice the obvious that they are fools and are not qualified to argue with bottle washers and button sorters.

phlogiston
July 5, 2010 2:15 am

To quote the Stranglers, “there’s always the sun”
Why no mention of Tsonis, he did some important work on oceanic phase shifts involving nonlinear mathematical analysis? i.e. at certain phase relationships of PDO and AMO for instance, a climate shift is caused:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/16/synchronized-chaos-and-climate-change/

Mailman
July 5, 2010 2:42 am

If the sun doesn’t affect climate what would happen if the sun stopped shining?
Oh, that would affect the weather only? 🙂

Alan the Brit
July 5, 2010 2:50 am

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence! For years scientists have been saying the Sun has all sorts of effects on our planet, electro-magnetic & otherwise. How can one simply deny its effects on our climate when in the atmosphere it can produce things of beauty such as the Northern & Southern Lights? I know the Met Office have solar scientists looking in to how the Sun “might” affect the climate, but if you’re coming in at it from a slanted angle you a distorted picture. If these chaps & chapesses are AGW believers from the outset, it seems rather pointless them studying solar activity other than from curiosity, or to produce evidence that it doesn’t affect the Earth.

Stephen Wilde
July 5, 2010 2:55 am

Time to revisit my New Climate Model ?
Solar changes from above constantly interacting with oceanic changes from below to drive the mid latitude jets and the ITCZ latitudinally thus changing global albedo to cause changes in the global temperature trend and with regional climate changes depending on the shift of individual regions in relation to those latitudinal positions of the air circulation systems.

tallbloke
July 5, 2010 3:06 am

It is noticeable that many of the upwards step changes coincide with El Nino. Bob Tisdale has already elucidated that. I have already made an attempt at explaining the el nino – solar link too:
http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2010/02/06/el-nino-and-the-solar-cycle/
Has it occurred to Steven Mosher it might just be that the parameters fit the data because Alan Cheetham has zoomed in on the correct parameter values?
For sure we need to do a lot more work on this stuff, but to dismiss a study like Alan’s as ‘numerology’ (not the first time Mosh has offered this cheap insult to solar investigators, see the last Scafetta thread ), seems a bit facile to me.

July 5, 2010 3:27 am

Why is it when the sun influencing climate comes up it is shot down?
One problem with the solar cycles – temperature relationship is clearly demonstrated during 1950 -1965 period, while solar activity was getting stronger, the temperatures were falling (to compensate for this anomaly ‘cycle length’ , ‘cycle gear shift’ etc were introduced, but neither is convincing).
No such problem with the geomagnetic correlation; see:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/07/05/spotting-the-solar-regime-shifts-driving-earths-climate/#comment-423344

tallbloke
July 5, 2010 3:29 am

Stephen Wilde says:
July 5, 2010 at 2:55 am
Time to revisit my New Climate Model ?
Solar changes from above constantly interacting with oceanic changes from below to drive the mid latitude jets and the ITCZ latitudinally thus changing global albedo to cause changes in the global temperature trend and with regional climate changes depending on the shift of individual regions in relation to those latitudinal positions of the air circulation systems.

I think there is a lot of merit in your hypothesis Stephen, having personally witnessed the difference the jet stream positions have made to the UK weather over the last few years.
I would add that the small changes in TSI which Leif Svalgaard never tires of telling us are too small to account for climate change are obviously amplified by the cloud albedo changing the actual insolation at the surface. Both TSI and surface insolation correlate well with these changes, so it’s time to smoke the red herrings.
http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2010/06/21/willie-soon-brings-sunshine-to-the-debate-on-solar-climate-link/

tallbloke
July 5, 2010 3:36 am

Bob Tisdale says:
July 5, 2010 at 1:30 am
What mechanism causes the shifts in global temperatures and how can it be tied back to solar variability? Also, the upward shifts in 1925 and 1986/87 occurred at even cycles and they are approximately the same magnitude as the other lesser shifts that occurred at odd cycles.

The upward shifts in the even cycles in 1925 and 1986/7 both come a decade or so after the weak odd cycles preceding them. Which lends some support to what David Archibald was highlighting, and confirms the decade or so lag I suggested to Leif Svalgaard over a year ago on his climate audit solar threads. He seemed to think it was reasonable at the time.
The mechanism of upward shift is El Nino, as you have shown us, and that ties back to solar cycle periodicity as you and I discussed in the thread on my blog. http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2010/02/06/el-nino-and-the-solar-cycle/
It’s an unfinished conversation, and I look forward to continuing it as and when you have time.

Chris Wright
July 5, 2010 3:42 am

On the face of it, the demonstrated correlation is astonishing. It could well be true, as there is a mountain of evidence suggesting that our local star has a fundamental effect on the climate.
However, it’s right to be – shall we say – sceptical. If the algorithm can be tuned to get a desired result, then that’s cause for concern. Climate science has been badly corrupted by that kind of behaviour (no names, but you know who I mean!)
I hope the writer can follow up on this potential problem. If he can demonstrate that the technique is ‘robust’ and does not depend on tuning of the algorithm, then I would say that this is a very important finding. But this question of tuning the algorithm does need to be addressed….
Chris

KevinUK
July 5, 2010 3:46 am

tallbloke,
I’m afraid Mosh is a lost cause and has been for some time now and especially since he’s been hanging out with the likes of Nick Stokes and Ron Broberg over at Lucia’s Blackboard.
Alan Cheetham in contrast still has an open mind as to whether or not the late 20th century warming trend was caused by man’s emissions of CO2 or not and like myself and many other skeptics of CAGW think that it’s not a good idea to attempt to de-carbonise your economy when the science is far from settled. Mosh on the other hand seems to think that the science is settled, CO2 is the primary cause of the late 20th century warming trend and as a consequence he is now urging us all to ‘act now’.

tallbloke
July 5, 2010 3:49 am

vukcevic says:
July 5, 2010 at 3:27 am (Edit)
Why is it when the sun influencing climate comes up it is shot down?
One problem with the solar cycles – temperature relationship is clearly demonstrated during 1950 -1965 period, while solar activity was getting stronger, the temperatures were falling (to compensate for this anomaly ‘cycle length’ , ‘cycle gear shift’ etc were introduced, but neither is convincing).
No such problem with the geomagnetic correlation; see:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/07/05/spotting-the-solar-regime-shifts-driving-earths-climate/#comment-423344

Vuk, isn’t geomagnetism affected by the heliomagnetism anyway? I think all these things tie in together. Your graph also shows temperature dipping below your Bz curve postwar after all. It looks like oceanic oscillations and cloud albedo have ‘overshoot’, just like your decaying Geomagnetic reaction from the 1600’s.
Coupled oscillators, with some system inertia thrown in.

tallbloke
July 5, 2010 4:06 am

KevinUK says:
July 5, 2010 at 3:46 am (Edit)
Mosh on the other hand seems to think that the science is settled, CO2 is the primary cause of the late 20th century warming trend and as a consequence he is now urging us all to ‘act now’.

He is?! Got a link??

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