In case you don’t know the line above, lookup “Treasure of the Sierra Madre”. Here’s a YouTube clip of one of the most famous lines ever borrowed for parody use in movies.
I’ve always said that if you can’t laugh at yourself and situations, then what is the point of life? After the PNAS blacklist fiasco, I compared the episode to the East German Stasi and the lists of citizens they made to track personal associations. I also quipped: “Will we have to wear yellow badges to climate science conferences?”. That’s a reference to the Yellow badges imposed on the Jewish population of WWII, to separate them from the rest of the populace. It is a sad footnote of history but not unlike the PNAS paper’s attempt to separate skeptics from the rest of the scientific community.
Lucia decided I had invoked Godwins Law, and being the optimist, I suggested this yellow badge for skeptics, since our friends on the other side of the argument always seem to be such sourpusses:
That seems to be a hit, so much in fact that lot’s of people have designed variations. Lots of examples below. So, I’m going to have a contest. We’ll look, we’ll vote. Then I’ll get some made up. Just leave links to your badge images (Tinypic, Picassa, Imageshack, etc) in comments, then I’ll gather them up for a voting page. Keep it clean, be upbeat and funny. Words combined with images are OK too. Just keep some connection to the Yellow smiley badge obvious.
Here’s some examples by cartoonist Josh:
From Cartoons by Josh
Following a request by Anthony at WUWT and discusion at The Blackboard
about there being some climate skeptic yellow badges I thought an Anthony badge and a Lucia badge would be fun – see above.
And so no one feels left out below is a Warmista badge, and, because I couldn’t resist, a Monckton badge.
The third one started off as the Pielke clan badge as they collectively cover a lot of opinions but actually it could be all of us! And, yes, other groups use rainbow badges – so really useful for all kinds of marches you find yourself on 😉
And a thank you badge for Atomic Hairdryer.
Also one for another articulate poster, Raven
(and hoping he/she will get in touch so I can do an ‘inhabitants’ cartoon)
And Bishop Hill of course.
When people believe that survival depends on their belief system, they do all kinds of amazing things. Like blow up airplanes and trains, throw people into volcanoes, etc.
AGW extremism is no less superstitious than Islamic extremism or any other primitive belief system. Do they really think that Polar Bears care or are affected in any way if they drive a hybrid? How dense can people get?
I always liked this one, although a higher resolution and not animated version would be needed. It seems to be saying “not according to the data!” with a smile.
warm smiley
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1640/smileyfacebutton2.jpg
How about one that says “Sunshine causes global warming?” (I think Fred Singer may already have one)
I hadn’t seen the Raven or the Atomic Hairdryer ones.
Don’t know about the Pielke smiley, but the Moncton one is spot on.
I adore this post. I LMAO
Hey I want a MONCKTON Badge, I love it. I’d proudly wear it lol
I do not want to steal Josh’s cartoon. Perhaps adding a smile and or a thermometer nose to the Anthony face?
By the way I love the idea of buttons. Humor is such an effective tool against those who take themselves much too seriously and are wrong to boot.
I can think of a less polite version of the last badge, with ahem, one less finger sticking up.
Is the badge on the 3rd set top right (the set with 3) supposed to be Lord Monkton? If not, it looks like him and I vote in favor of that one.
http://tallbloke.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/scepticsmiley1.jpg
I wonder if survivors of the Holocaust appreciate and understand the comparison between what they suffered through and what this PNAS paper has caused the “UE” group to suffer through, or I wonder if they feel you are belittling what they went through by making these comparisons….
I’m not an artist, and don’t have the technical abilities to “draw” a sample. (And my son is still sleeping)
I thought the most obvious would be to use a broken (bent upwards) hockey stick as the smile on the “badge”.
Mike
this is more up my alley…. I present – Briffa “Yamal” Hanson of the Climate Scam Hansen Brothers fame…. (in 30 minutes or less)
http://www.packerpalace.com/blog/images/briffa-yamal-hanson-smile.jpg
although I wish I had a fatter lined hockey stick graph to start with…
On further thought…
Broken (bent upwards) hockey stick as the smile
Thermometer, with a big red bulb, for a nose (stolen from Gail)
Stylized temp graphs for eyes.
-left eye an unadjusted and right eye up-trending adjusted temps
Or mayby it should be the the other way around with the left being the adjusted one.
JB.. Intellectuals suffered during the Holocaust, which is also something that should not be forgotten. Any attempt to categorise and deny based on belief is bad.
But I really like my badge. Name choice was based on someone asking me at Uni why I never used a hairdryer. I said something like I do, an atomic one and pointed at the Sun. Being the Uni’s environmental officer, I tried to encourage people to do simple, practical energy saving things. So use a washing line instead of a tumble drier, use the Sun instead of a hairdryer, share showers and baths.
Since then, things have become more radical, and stupid. Housing density increases mean fewer and smaller back gardens, so less green in urban areas. Some areas even have rules about hanging out washing because it’s unsightly, even if it’s energy efficient and environmentally friendly.
The other thing I’ve noticed is Josh’s t-shirts are great for encouraging debate, and had a few people asking what they mean, then chatting about their views compared to mine. Badges should work the same way, and I think humour is a good way to help dialogue.
see http://sweasel.com/archives/6403#comment-50440 for the versions sWeasel has been pulling together and developing.
I like the yellow badge ideas, especially monckton.
Here is one I made (although I am sure someone else could make a better composite than I)
http://yfrog.com/9hmonktoneyesj
Watched the video a couple of times now, and dissapointment, the quoted phrase “We don’t need no stinking badges” does not exist…
“…badges? we aint got no badges, we don´t need no badges, I don’t have to show you any stinking badges…”
I saw the one at http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/ and it’s great – but all of them are good. Humor and fun are natural byproducts of curiosity and learning.
Simply wearing the yellow smiley in light of being cast as “holocaust deniers” is, in itself, so elegantly poetic.
Perhaps 3 different yellow smiley patches, worn randomly, would be worth considering… See no evil, Hear no evil, and Speak no evil….
For the AGW proponents, a green smiley with blinders.
here’s one: the Smile (at the Hockey Graph) Skeptic: http://www.packerpalace.com/blog/images/smile-skeptic.jpg
CalMike,
Great idea, here is my take for the hockey stick smile:
http://www.rechauffementmediatique.org/smileySkeptic.jpg
stevengoddard says:
June 28, 2010 at 6:14 am
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primitive belief system. Do they really think that Polar Bears care or are affected in any way if they drive a hybrid? How dense can people get?”
Yes they can. I know one. Marketeers have a name for them: LOHAS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOHAS
First thing that came to mind. Probably will not work for – – Leif. 🙂
http://i49.tinypic.com/35luvdd.jpg%5B/IMG
O/T
Prepare for more whitewash, BBC Panorama tonight (28th)
Reporter Tom Heap looks at how e-mails from the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit caused the climate change debate to turn nasty
http://news.bbc.co.uk/panorama/hi/default.stm
The Monckton smiley gets my vote too! I’ve wondered if he and the late great Marty
Feldman didn’t have a common ancestor….
CalMike says:
June 28, 2010 at 7:08 am
I’m not an artist, and don’t have the technical abilities to “draw” a sample. (And my son is still sleeping)
I thought the most obvious would be to use a broken (bent upwards) hockey stick as the smile on the “badge”.
Mike
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HMMMmmm, a thermometer nose, a hockey stick mouth, and the ear muffs
John of Kent said on June 28, 2010 at 6:46 am:
I thought that was an “English” badge, or does the hand have to be turned around for it to count? 😉
How about a small smiling sun on the corner and a finger pointing at it?
Count me in on the Monckton badge too. It’s different enough from a regular smiley face that it makes someone unfamiliar with this cause ask a question or two….
I suggested that one a few days ago on another thread here, and S. Weasel was kind enough to create it, here: http://sweasel.com/archives/6403
However, I’ve come to prefer another button-idea I had, a pair of upraised hands decisively breaking a hockey stick, in imitation of the logo of the War Resisters League, which broke a rifle. S. Weasel also created a button for that.
I’m now hoping that he’ll change (and enlarge) the lettering around the edge from its current “Consensus Resistance league” to the punning “Gore Resisters League,” which would also make clear to the average reader what consensus is being resisted.
Monckton!
All very nice but there’s really only one expression that puts the whole silliness of AGW and the PNAS list in its place:
Adopt a button with the irreverent visage of Alfred E. Neuman and the message, “What, me worry?”
I particularly like this one: http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/9/98/Teletubbies-sun.png
JB says:
June 28, 2010 at 7:08 am
The number of folks that will die, should the hardcore Eco agenda be adopted will dwarf anything the Germans did. In general, I see the point of stating that the use of the term Holocaust is belittling to the death camps survivors and the victims families. This is not one of those cases.
Come on! Blazing Saddles did it best! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lj056ao6GE
didn’t forrest gump invent the smiley face? p.s. ihatetexting!!!
Here is mine…
http://i48.tinypic.com/aucu3q.jpg
The mustache and eyebrows might be a bit too cultish–it’s still cool, though.
So far, I’d have to go with the flames–I mean, it’s Thermageddon after all.
JB says:
June 28, 2010 at 7:08 am
I wonder if survivors of the Holocaust appreciate and understand the comparison between what they suffered through and what this PNAS paper has caused the “UE” group to suffer through, or I wonder if they feel you are belittling what they went through by making these comparisons….
This is a valid concern. The obvious response is that the first allegation that raises that comparison does not come from the skeptics but from the warmists by insisting on the “denier” label. But does a light hearted response in kind reflect insensitivity to the true holocaust sufferers? I wonder if Germans, en masse, had all insisted on wearing yellow badges, with or without smiley faces, if the holocaust might have been prevented. Such an action would have been a powerful statement to the effect that “we refuse to be labeled”. The pernicious nature of lists of the kind in question is not a slight or insignificant thing. It deserves a response. It’s not really enough to criticize this response without offering a better one. If not yellow smiley faced badges, what?????
Buttons are great. They are declarations of the button wearer’s views or attitude. To get that across, effectively, a button must be simple and easy easy to understand.
Effective buttons are great communication tools, but, ideally, they will initiate a transaction in the communication process that leads to a more extensive information transfer.
If the button is simple and easy to understand, it will attract attention. If a button does that, it will be a great conversation opener. A graphic and a few words of text around it will work best for that.
The graphic will catch the eye. The text will cause the eye to linger and the owner to lean forward, trying to read what it says. And thereby you have a never-ending stream of new individuals, plus anyone near enough to listen in, at check-out counters, on the bus or subway, at work, coffee-shops and so on, people that are potential listeners eager and ready to listen to you explain what your button is all about.
If anyone were to wear a smiley-face button without anything else on it, few people would ask him anything about it; most likely those would be just a few of his friends whom he sees everyday and who might find it odd and out of character that he wears a smiley-face button. Anyone else he meets face-to-face won’t spend a second glance. The smiley-face button is so familiar to virtually all people that they will not even consciously notice it when they see it.
Will a bit of text around the edge on a smiley-face button be a better attention getter? Most definitely, such as: “CLIMATE SKEPTICS are OPTIMISTS” and on the bottom edge, “I love CO2”.
That could be improved a bit as an attention getter if the “smiley” face were to be made an obvious variation from the familiar one, similar but so different that peoples’ eyes would sort of stumble over the difference and make them look more closely. I am not enough of an artist to be able to achieve that. I believe that it was about 65 years ago that my parents told me not to worry about that, because it would only take a little bit of skill to become a critic. That is true, and far more critics than artists make a comfortable living, while artists will often not be worth anything at all until after they are dead.
The original smiley is Leif’s avatar for the SC24.com message board!
http://www.solarcycle24.com/avatar/smile.jpg
This smiley below seems good. Sunglasses and a grin, we skeptics fear no runaway global warming. We just enjoy the warmth while it lasts.
http://rlv.zcache.com/smiley_with_sun_glasses_sticker-p217492683684843646qjcl_400.jpg
The smiley below could be the alarmist smiley, as they always seem to have the same look when faced with tough questions.
http://icons2.iconarchive.com/icons/deleket/scrap/256/Smiley-Angry-icon.png
If I could do art, I’d work in a hockey stick somewhere. Could the smile be hockey stick shaped?
I like the original. I like the thought of wearing the badge on the London Underground. If I saw someone else wearing it I could give them a matching jolly smile and thumbs up sign.
Oops! Should read all posts first. Anyway, I agree with CalMike.
Steven….” Do they really think that Polar Bears care or are affected in any way if they drive a hybrid? How dense can people get?”
You meant that as a rhetorical question,right? If not, I can’t think of any element right now denser than lead, but then these CAGW cultists would have to have something in their heads to start with, for it to be dense(besides trying to scam naive people out of their money)
For anyone thinking that making comparisons to the Holocast belittles it, consider “Shindler’s List”. The NAZIs were very FOND of making LISTS of people, and acting on those lists…This is where it STARTS.. Please note the “no fly” list, with it’s many errors.
“JB:
I wonder if survivors of the Holocaust appreciate and understand the comparison between what they suffered through and what this PNAS paper has caused the “UE” group to suffer through, or I wonder if they feel you are belittling what they went through by making these comparisons….”
Gosh, you’re right. Perhaps all yellow badges should be banned from now on. Otherwise, well we might as well be denying the holocaust. /sarcasm
BTW, I always thought you lot across the pond called them “buttons”.
Maybe you should use a smiley face with a zipper instead of a mouth. This would reflect the fact that the warmers would like nothing better than for all of us to shut up and act like lemmings.
How about the Fire Breathing Gore?
http://standupforamerica.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/gore-fire-big.jpg
My suggestion for a smiley face skeptic.
“JB says:
June 28, 2010 at 7:08 am
I wonder if survivors of the Holocaust appreciate and understand the comparison between what they suffered through and what this PNAS paper has caused the “UE” group to suffer through, or I wonder if they feel you are belittling what they went through by making these comparisons….”
JB you are missing the point entirely. It is the warmistas that are in effect belittling the Holocaust and insulting the victims of that terrible crime by comparing climate realists/sceptics/skeptics to Holocaust deniers. It is the warmistas who should be ashamed of themselves for such a cheap shot.
Er, the yellow smiley face is the “Acid” symbol dude, reminds me of the 90’s rave craze.
A suggestion for a smiley face skeptic.
I posted this on a previous thread. Not as pretty as Josh’s, of course:
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4608/co2uncertain.jpg
And, can you please adjust the title of the thread? “We don’t need no stinking badges” is like “Play it again, Sam” or “gild the lily” — a misquotation which has become more common than the actual line. It’s one of those small things which never fails to annoy me. The movie clip — thoughtfully provided in the article — shows that the bandito never said that.
We´ll need, also, some doberman deniers´sniffing dogs. ☺
Please excuse the dupe post, thought I’d screwed up first time.
Anthony, you will have to replace the little smiley at the bottom of WUWT comment pages for that of the winning badge…
Will they burn us in windmills´ powered microwave ovens?….If so, we´ll survive!
The Smiley face was indeed used by the 1990’s rave scene in the UK, but I also remember it used in the 1970’s by Christian groups with the wordage, “Smile, Jesus loves you”.
Where was it used originally?
Obligitory Wikipedia quote:
“The iconic smiley with the black ink smile and two oval dots for eyes inside of a black circle printed on a yellow background was created by freelance artist Harvey R. Ball in 1963 in an advertising campaign by The State Mutual Life Assurance Company of Worcester, Massachusetts. Ball never copyrighted or trademarked the symbol resulting in its being in the public domain and modified by countless artists over the years.”
I imagine similar imagery has been used before then though.
This site has some excellent graphics. [scroll down]
Well Godwin’s Law or no, history is replete with examples of peoples who were downtrodden; or perceived themselves to be; but who had in their midst at least one group who were unfazed by the whole situation, and set themselves to work to make themselves productive despite the overall conditions. This situation is then ripe for a “Pied Piper” to come along and take advantage of that situation.
Standard methodology is to offer the sorry masses the solution to their problems; usually in the form of offering them something that it is not one’s to give; and it helps to make that successful group the cause of the woes of the masses; and blame them for their plight.
The masses themselves have an inherent dishonesty, in that they are not averse to robbing Peter to pay Paul. They know they are being offered something that is not available to give; except by taking it from others; yet they willingly buy into the deal.
Well the story of Faust is just an individual case of the same phenomenon.
And Jim Jones disasters are the inevitable consequence of following these shysters. They’ve been with humanity for eons; and they will always be with us; and Americans have recently proved; that they are no more immune to the lure of somebody else’s property or hard work, than have past generations; who somehow brought global ruin down on themselves and everybody else.
CO2 smiley with a black eye
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/4742544163_3aa3325e7e_m.jpg
So does anybody actually remember the story of “The Treasure of the Sierra Madre.” ?
Somewhere back in my “incorrectly filed” folder, I have dim recollections of a (black and white) movie about some lost gold mine up in some mountains or other; who knows it could have been the Lost Dutchman or somesuch gold mine; and some folks are searching for it; and I’m sure there were others trying to short circuit them. As I recall, the movie ends with a scene of a massive earthquake, that brings down a whole mountainside, and ends up burying the re-discovered mine forever. No recollection of who was in said movie or if that was the correct name (TOSM).
Am I close; or doing I leave it in the fictional recollections folder ?
Hey, I’ve always questioned the “hockey stick.”
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27369030@N04/4742524953
I prefer the ones with comments like a smiley with sunglasses and underneath the caption reads ” ALL REAL SCIENTISTS ARE SKEPTICS “
“Kadaka (KD Knoebel) says: June 28, 2010 at 8:21 am
“”John of Kent said on June 28, 2010 at 6:46 am:
I can think of a less polite version of the last badge, with ahem, one less finger sticking up.””
I thought that was an “English” badge, or does the hand have to be turned around for it to count? ;-)”
Palm forward is Churchill’s V for Victory, back of hand forward is the sign to the French that we still have two finger and can shoot a longbow.
Actually, under the one finger version I’d like the words “thats what we think of your consensus”
I kinda like the logo on the book cover “Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy”. Here’s a link to the book on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Hitchhikers-Guide-Galaxy-25th-Anniversary/dp/1400052920?tag=dogpile-20
It’s probably copyrighted.
Dan
Re: Xi Chin
“Er, the yellow smiley face is the “Acid” symbol dude, reminds me of the 90′s rave craze.”
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Then, it was better living through chemistry. Now, it’s worse living through chemistry and climate models. Maybe the AGW side is so gloomy because they were too busy worrying about the end of the world and missed those parties. Or weren’t invited.
My attempt
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/97/badge1w.jpg
and apologies to Josh for abusing his badge 🙂
I like this one, being an anti-wamista.
http://static2.bigstockphoto.com/thumbs/9/7/5/large2/579325.jpg
On tonight at 20:30hrs BST (about half hour from now)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00swp0k
Yet another barbecue summer has been predicted, but do you really trust the forecasters any more? Despite governments, scientists and campaigners telling us the world’s climate is changing, increasing numbers of us simply don’t believe in global warming.
After one of the coldest winters on record and a vicious row about the science behind climate change, Panorama goes back to basics and asks what we really know about our climate and how it will affect us.
Panorama reporter Tom Heap speaks to some of the world’s leading scientists on both sides of the argument, to find out what they can agree on and uncovers some surprising results.
“What’s up with the weather?”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2010/06/whats_up_with_the_weather.html
Producer Mike Rudin discusses the programme at The Editors blog .
Anthony – YOU ARE GOING TO LOVE THIS! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/hydro_electricenergy/7858960/Power-rationed-on-green-island-Eigg-after-mild-weather-causes-drought.html
From: John of Kent on June 28, 2010 at 11:35 am
My mother for a very long time has been a fan of “Britcoms” (“British” comedies) from the BBC as shown on local PBS stations with no censoring. While the thing with the French may have been the historical origin, I am very familiar, by usage and accompanying words, what the “two-fingered salute” currently stands for. 😉
Norby beat me to this but I’ll still offer my version.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c385/SSTforumpics/MISC/HOCKEY_SMILEY.jpg
My two pixels:
http://econ.ohio-state.edu/jhm/AGW/SkepticalSmiley.jpg
Wow! A whole post, I honoured. Thank you so much.
I will try to do more badges and find a way of getting them on something like CafePress.
The Pielke badge is really my attempt at a universal skeptics badge, ie for everyone. Rainbow/weather/climate/promise/hope…no? I am going to do a special Pielke Jr badge. He deserves it 😉
“Badges? We don’t need no stinking badges”, is I believe a quote from Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, and Blazing Saddles. It is the better line even though miss-quoted from the orignal source in Treasure of Sierra Madre.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treasure_of_the_Sierra_Madre
The book with links to elsewhere.
The yellow star is a “footnote” of history?
Here’s the Blazing Saddles quote:
This might not work for a button but I think it is slightly subtle and fitting for all us warming agnostics. Especially given the Arctic-vs-Antarctic post above:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8505/smileyfacebutton1.jpg
Also, I’m at work and only have access to MS Paint, so I apologize for the lack of finish.
OK – this is fun…. might as well put Mann himself in the reflection of the broken sunglasses….
http://www.packerpalace.com/blog/images/smile-skeptic-3.jpg
Max Planck Institute Financial Researcher calls Europe’s Climate Policy a failure.
(That’s something to SMILE about.)
http://pgosselin.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/max-planck-institute-financial-researcher-calls-europes-climate-policy-a-failure/
My vote goes to the face of monkton with a middle finger gesture and says “NO FREAKIN CONSENSUS”. I am no artist but a compilation of some of these ideas.
And on that note , the V palm forward is the peace sign, back of the hand forward churchills victory sign. I always thought the french sign was both arms up in surrender. A little sarcasm
I would rather see a smile using the real temperature graph, including the MWP and LIA. Course if you smooth it, you would get a straight line………………..
I think a sceptic sitting on the dunny would be a good one . with the words “what a load of crap”
Finally, something I am somewhat of an expert on – badges. Wish I could draw.
Anthony,
Honoring your request that the Skeptic Badge should be in Smiley theme, here is a Skeptical Smiley . . . . she/he seems to say “Always Question” with its eyes and broad smile!!!
http://i46.tinypic.com/30bpvlt.png
Good luck,
John
norby says:
June 28, 2010 at 1:32 pm
OK – this is fun…. might as well put Mann himself in the reflection of the broken sunglasses….
http://www.packerpalace.com/blog/images/smile-skeptic-3.jpg
norby ,
That is way cool . . . : )
John
Another ‘stinking badges’ parody:
Obvious innit? The sceptic badge should be the wink smiley face.
In the UK you can buy a Monckton badge here Not sure about elsewhere, let me know and I see what I can set up.
I love all the ideas on this thread. One Pielke Jr badge coming up.
My favorite is the Monckton badge.
A Roger Pielke Jr badge
Not sure who should wear this, but I think it speaks for itself.
not so smiley
Justthinkin says (June 28, 2010 at 9:18 am): “If not, I can’t think of any element right now denser than lead…”
Osmium: 22.59. Lead: 11.34.
My first guess was uranium (used in armor-piercing ammo), but it’s “only” 19.1. 🙁
My candidate for skeptic badge is a smiling Earth, perhaps with a short caption:
“Al who?” or maybe “Doomed for 4.5 billion years”. The very existence of semi-intelligent life on earth is perhaps the strongest evidence against the doomsayers.
Just found a smiley on the web similar to what I was thinking of (but with no caption):
http://www.cafepress.com/barrysworld/4914948
Not sure if I’ve done this right but here’s a WUWT button for you
I uploaded it to tinypic
http://i45.tinypic.com/1491cue.jpg
Ray says:
June 28, 2010 at 8:54 am
Here is mine…
http://i48.tinypic.com/aucu3q.jpg
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ROTFLMAO… I think we need to have several of these available, there are too many good ones to choose just one. (I like John’s polar bear and the CO2 resisters breaking a hockey stick too)
Walter Schneider says:
June 28, 2010 at 9:05 am
Buttons are great. They are declarations of the button wearer’s views or attitude. To get that across, effectively, a button must be simple and easy easy to understand.
Effective buttons are great communication tools, but, ideally, they will initiate a transaction in the communication process that leads to a more extensive information transfer…..
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You are correct. The button must be different enough to cause curiosity and also not be an “in joke.” Others especially the neutrals must understand it enough to ask questions.
Whats this amigo got against badgers? St-e-e-nking badgers.
Nearly ran over one of them the other week.
norby says:
June 28, 2010 at 1:32 pm
OK – this is fun…. might as well put Mann himself in the reflection of the broken sunglasses….
http://www.packerpalace.com/blog/images/smile-skeptic-3.jpg
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ROTFLMAO…. How are we supposed to choose?
Josh says:
June 28, 2010 at 2:56 pm
In the UK you can buy a Monckton badge here Not sure about elsewhere, let me know and I see what I can set up.
I love all the ideas on this thread. One Pielke Jr badge coming up.
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Josh, I hope you make several of this badges (or bumper stickers or t shirts ) available, with the artists permission of course.
My slight variant badge is here.
CO2 is cool, man.
http://i49.tinypic.com/16m3kop.gif
I vote for SemiChemE
I still like the original plain smiley face in the article the best.
http://rigeradvertising.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/smiley_face_button1.jpg?w=175&h=174
It’ll drive them crazy. How can they argue with a smiley face.
Anthony wrote,
“I also quipped: ‘Will we have to wear yellow badges to climate science conferences?’. That’s a reference to the Yellow badges imposed on the Jewish population of WWII, to separate them from the rest of the populace. It is a sad footnote of history but not unlike the PNAS paper’s attempt to separate skeptics from the rest of the scientific community.”
Yes, murdering six million men, women and children is very similar to writing a research paper with opinions you don’t like.
Darell C. Phillips says:
June 28, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Norby beat me to this but I’ll still offer my version.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c385/SSTforumpics/MISC/HOCKEY_SMILEY.jpg
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And for Josh to consider as well … Should not the sceptical’s “Hockey Stick” smiley be upside down? Ending up with Mann-made global warming cooling down … towards the upcoming ice age?
ChocoNutDancer says:
June 28, 2010 at 6:13 pm
I still like the original plain smiley face in the article the best.
http://rigeradvertising.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/smiley_face_button1.jpg?w=175&h=174
It’ll drive them crazy. How can they argue with a smiley face.
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It needs a caption such as Plants love CO2 perhaps in place of the mouth.
IMO, Deborah on the original “Inquisition Thread” already had the best idea so far. There’s even a place for a message, if you don’t mind a rectangular button.
/dr.bill
Darell C. Phillips says:
June 28, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Norby beat me to this but I’ll still offer my version.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c385/SSTforumpics/MISC/HOCKEY_SMILEY.jpg
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And for Josh to consider as well … Should not the sceptical’s “Hockey Stick” smiley be upside down? Ending up with Mann-made global warming cooling down … towards the upcoming ice age?
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CalMike says:
June 28, 2010 at 7:08 am
I’m not an artist, and don’t have the technical abilities to “draw” a sample. (And my son is still sleeping)
I thought the most obvious would be to use a broken (bent upwards) hockey stick as the smile on the “badge”.
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Or, breaking the hockey stick in the middle: That gives the up-and-down rise and fall from the RWP to the DA to the MWP to the LIA to the MWP …. As a crooked smile!
Amazingly, the line quoted isn’t in the movie. The line is actually “We don’t got to show you any steenkeen badges!” Just goes to show that wrong stuff can become popular.
Apologies if still href is formatted incorrectly, but one LAST try here.
http://i45.tinypic.com/33li4pl.jpg
I’ll offer a late suggestion.
Can we capture the belief, of ants on a log floating down the river, that they are in control of the log and the river?
Maybe a yellow button with some wavy lines, a smile shaped log with an end out of the water, with a steering wheel on it connected to nothing? and a couple officer ants? Maybe we could label the log MSMAGW? or IPPCAGW or the Goreraft or the Global AGW or something??
Have fun.
F. Ross, you get the award for persistence!
Love all of the badges, it would be hard to choose. I really laughed at the one that looked like Mann.
Ok here’s my badge proposal, though I dunno if Anthony thinks I’m eligible to win…
Thanks for that.
Typing seems to be all bassackwards today.
I’m not sure a complex issue can be reduced to a simple badge, particularly NOT a smiley face clone. The image rapidly becomes a mere in joke, understood only by a few skeptics. IMHO, a smiley face both trivializes the issue on the one hand, and fails to communicate on the other.
If there is any iconic figure who fully exemplifies the greater issue, the evil inherent in politicization of Science, it is Nikolai Vavilov:
“Vavilov’s is one the saddest stories in twentieth century science. By all accounts a man of truly extraordinary energy, intellectual powers, and charismatic personality, were it not for the backward Lamarckian theories of T. D. Lysenko and their support by the Soviet authorities he might have lived a full life and been destined to become the greatest crop geneticist and plant geographer of the twentieth century….
http://people.wku.edu/charles.smith/chronob/VAVI1887.htm
Here’s mine.
http://tiggerstestblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/very-cold-smiley.html
Bet someone could do this one better:) Its the Giss pink missing coverage globe:)
http://yfrog.com/esd0gj
I for one am GLAD to see somebody rightfully comparing the publication of this paper in PNAS to the treatment of the Jewish people in Nazi Germany (and occupied territories).
For instance, this paper was published in PNAS, so has very high impact and anything it had to say about climate skeptics/”denialists” was read by a large audience. Similarly, thousands of Jewish infants were taken from their mothers’ arms and thrown alive into the crematoria.
This paper called attention to recorded public statements of scientists that had taken a public position about human influence, or lack-thereof, in contributing to climate change. Likewise, Dr. Mengle would administer toxic substances to Jewish prisoners at Auschwitz, to determine how quickly and painfully those substances caused death. He also couldn’t help but sewing people together, due to his fascination with Siamese twins (these artificial pairings always died, of course, but not after an extended period of suffering).
This paper leaves the names out, though they’re easy enough to find given public records. In almost exactly the same way, the Nazis forced tens of thousands of Jews to dig mass graves, then lined them up and shot them, filling the graves. They gassed millions of Jews and burned their bodies entirely (a holocaust) in the constantly stoked, constantly working crematoria. They exterminated whole Jewish families, communities, and nearly entire countries’ worth (only 3% of Poland’s 3.5 million Jews survived) leaving no one–no one!–to bury them, to say kadish for them, or even to remember that they existed.
The Nazis and their collaborators enacted the most heinous campaign against human beings that has ever occurred. No torment, no torture, no unnatural death was spared for the Jewish people at the hands of the Nazis. The only thing that could possibly be spoken of in the same breath, if one has not only a sense of decency, but simply perceptive observation, is another actual genocide. The genocide in Rwanda could be compared with the Holocaust, or that in the former Yugoslavia, or that in Cambodia, or perhaps the Chmielnicki pogrom in the Ukraine (also waged against the Jewish people).
So wear the yellow badges, and wear them proudly, but don’t, for heavens sakes, pretend that they have anything to do with a yellow Star of David, or yellow handkerchief, or yellow belt such as those used to single out Jews historically for harassment, assault, torture, murder, and extermination. When your babies are being tossed alive into furnaces, when your parents, wives, and children are tortured and killed before your eyes, when your brethren are placed on cattle cars and sent to the mass graves, the gas chambers, and the crematoria, then you may properly equate your badge to one of the ones forced on the Jews. Until that day, pray that it will never come, it is utterly foolish to compare the treatment of climate skeptics, denialists, whatever-shamacalits anywhere today to the treatment of the Jews in Nazi occupied Europe. If the two seem in any way similar to you, reexamine how you think.
Best,
Chris
Someone named “Prince of Powerpoint” designed a raised eyebrow smiley that looks quite good . Permission would be needed of course.
Someone named “Prince of Powerpoint” designed a raised eyebrow smiley that looks quite good . Permission would be needed of course.
Super climate fragile lipstik expee ala docious
ok, not a smiley face but “I love real science” with heart and Stevenson screen.
Reminds me, I did a whole series of bumper stickers ages ago – stickers you can (or should be able to) get actual stickers made up and sent to you.
Carbon Dioxide: June 28, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Whats this amigo got against badgers?
Well, a badger’s a mustelid, and this contest started last week at another mustelid’s site:
http://sweasel.com/archives/6403
Some fun stuff! And, of course, Anthony’s original post started her off on the idea.
here’s my contribution:
http://img541.imageshack.us/i/hockeywink.jpg/
Chris says:
June 29, 2010 at 12:46 am (Edit)
… it is utterly foolish to compare….
Agreed, but some fools did, so here’s the response. Lighthearted and trouble free.
George E. Smith says:
June 28, 2010 at 10:53 am
So does anybody actually remember the story of “The Treasure of the Sierra Madre.” ?
Your recollection of the storyline might be this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mackenna's_Gold
It’s embarrassing to own up to this, but I actually paid money to see this terrible movie. My only defense: I was young.
Ray says: {June 28, 2010 at 8:54 am}
“Here is mine…
http://i48.tinypic.com/aucu3q.jpg
Ray, just add the slanted line, you know, the international sign for “No”.
That would be a winner!!!
Can somebody make a new badge for Anthony on Tour in Australia?
One with the eyes propped open by matchsticks?
(I failed finger-painting in pre-school.)
The audience warmed to Anthony in Perth this evening. Lots of slides and informative charts. A clear message. We have to look after our instruments if we expext to be able to make any sense of the measurements that they provide.
It’s a shame that he had to fly and not fully enjoy our hospitality in the West for a few more days. Only a couple more presentations and Anthony gets a well-deserved “rest”.
“Chris:
When your babies are being tossed alive into furnaces, when your parents, wives, and children are tortured and killed before your eyes, when your brethren are placed on cattle cars and sent to the mass graves, the gas chambers, and the crematoria, then you may properly equate your badge to one of the ones forced on the Jews.”
Oh grow up. Blimey. If you don’t like what’s going on here then just leave. Not complicated. And trying to play the what-you-are-doing-is-an-awful-insult-to-all-those-dead-babies card is just plain pathetic. Take your high horse somewhere else.
Well, badges may help. I don’t think they will do any harm so wear a Monckton badge if you have to. What will count is your writing or emailing your senator, representative, member of parliament. We have to change the mind of the governing class. That’s where it really counts. We have got to tell these people that there are more votes in skeptics than in the cult religion of AGW. Do it or we are sunk. They pass the laws, they make the tax. Change their minds or we are all in deep sh*t.
Might as well make the skeptically raised eyebrow a HS:
http://www.econ.ohio-state.edu/jhm/AGW/HSsmileySkeptic.jpg.
(Though someone more ambitious than I might try to make it broken!)
RE mikelorrey 6/28 8:38PM,
How did you imbed an image in a comment here? The usual HTML tag (img src = ..) doesn’t seem to work on WUWT, even though it does on CA.
Let me try inline again:
I love the Moncton badge, but only because it captures his image beautifully. However, I don’t think it appropriate to have him as “our” style icon.
How about, instead of a smiley sun, a smiley frozen sphere? And the hockey stick mouth and sunglasses (to protect against the albedo effect) and a few drips of water, to depict irony re melting ice caps.
Stevenson Screen Smiley
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39632727@N08/4726354928/
Inconvenient Proof version
http://www.flickr.com/photos/39632727@N08/4746071491/
stevengoddard says:
June 28, 2010 at 6:14 am
When people believe that survival depends on their belief system, they do all kinds of amazing things. Like blow up airplanes and trains, throw people into volcanoes, etc.
AGW extremism is no less superstitious than Islamic extremism or any other primitive belief system. Do they really think that Polar Bears care or are affected in any way if they drive a hybrid? How dense can people get?
Steve,
I always agree with you and I think you’re highly intelligent and right on target…
However as to the denseness issue? You’re behind the times dude. 🙂
You have heard that the National PETA Director has said that he thinks we should allow canibalism in the United States and possibly globally because it would relieve the animals and plants from our negative effects on the planet.
He and others in PETA strongly believe that if we started eating each other we’d relieve the planet of so many humans and provide food for the needy nations.
Gail. Do you mean do some artwork for the various ideas on this thread that have not been art worked yet? If so yes sure, anyone just email me from my site and I will see what I can do.
Hu,
It works for me, but I’m special like that, 😉 . I don’t have posting privileges at CA like you do, but I do here.
A Dead Polar Bear lying on its back with it legs in the air as if in a state of Rigor mortis.
Chris says:
June 29, 2010 at 12:46 am
I for one am GLAD to see somebody rightfully comparing the publication of this paper in PNAS to the treatment of the Jewish people in Nazi Germany….
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To Chris and others. No one is trying to trivialize the horrors of the treatment of the Jewish people in Nazi Germany. The idea is to prevent a repeat of those horrors on a world wide scale.
” Propaganda within Nazi Germany was taken to a new and frequently perverse level. Hitler was very aware of the value of good propaganda and he appointed Joseph Goebbels as head of propaganda. As Minister of Enlightenment, Goebbels had two main tasks:
to ensure nobody in Germany could read or see anything that was hostile or damaging to the Nazi Party.
to ensure that the views of the Nazis were put across in the most persuasive manner possible. “
Those pushing CAGW seem to have taken a page from Goebbels book on the use of propaganda. Without the internet the only information available would have been from the likes of Hansen, Schmidt and Gavin. All we would have heard was: “the Science is settled” “there is a consensus” “the sky is falling” “we must act now” To me it is appalling that this propaganda is still fed to school children throughout the world. Already the economic damage done to Greece, Spain, Germany, and the UK can be seen.
Agreed the CAGW propaganda has not gone far enough yet to have caused the number of deaths that were seen in Germany, however if there is a world wide cap on carbon dioxide added to the Clinton’s 25 X 25 Resolution (biofuel) there WILL result in the starvation of millions.
It has already caused the deaths of many children by starvation.
” Malnutrition contributes to between 3.5 and 5 million annual deaths of children under 5 years of age. Meanwhile, in 2009, 107 million tons of grain were turned into fuel for American cars. This was enough to feed 330 million people for one year at average world consumption levels. In 2009 we reached a new record of more than 1 billion people who are undernourished.
The man we can thank for this is none other than Barack Hussein Obama. It was Obama who voted in favor of subsidies for ethanol fuel. Make no mistake, Obama is aware of what he has caused. In 2008 he said that “there’s no doubt that biofuels may be contributing” to falling food supplies and rising prices….”
So yes the holocaust was horrible but this time the plans are to encompass the whole world. As far as I am concerned that yellow badge not only is a taunt to the establishment it also represents the deaths of all those children starved to death thanks to biofuel.
“In Germany, they first came for the gypsies, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a gypsy. Then they came for the Bolsheviks, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Bolshevik. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics. I didn’t speak up then because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak up.” – Martin Niemoller, A Lutheran Pastor arrested by the Gestapo in 1937
At least we are speaking out.
Grumpy Old Man says:
June 29, 2010 at 10:01 am
Well, badges may help. I don’t think they will do any harm so wear a Monckton badge if you have to. What will count is your writing or emailing your senator, representative, member of parliament. We have to change the mind of the governing class. That’s where it really counts. We have got to tell these people that there are more votes in skeptics than in the cult religion of AGW. Do it or we are sunk. They pass the laws, they make the tax. Change their minds or we are all in deep sh*t.
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We also have to connect with the “neutrals” and convince them to write to their representatives. That is where the yellow badge and bumper stickers come in. Hopefully they are Ice breakers.
http://www.bitwisegifts.com/Merchant2/pow/2007-01-28.jpg
that’s very funny Ulric – I like that one a lot!!!
I updated the glasses to fit within the smiley… in case someone really wanted to make a button. I used to re-fit old buttons with new images.
updated:
http://www.packerpalace.com/blog/images/smile-skeptic.jpg
http://www.packerpalace.com/blog/images/smile-skeptic-3.jpg
another polar bear theme:
http://www.packerpalace.com/blog/images/smile-skeptic-2.jpg
Mann theme with smiley skeptic eyebrows:
http://www.packerpalace.com/blog/images/smile-skeptic-4.jpg
It’s hard to relay a complex message with a simple design… about the only way that works is a slow build-up into massive usage through extended time (word of mouth) or many people sporting the same colorful button (in this specific case) at a large open event with media coverage.
So, I’m the only one watching Sharon Tate on the trampoline after the stinking badges? Sorry , what was this post about again, WOW!
Brent in Calgary
Nice work Norby! The one with the polar bear (smile-skeptic-2.jpg) gets my vote.
How about a poll on the top candidates?
Well, is blunt and not climate, so as for yellow badges:
I really like Cal Mike’s description of a badge including hockey stick as a (wry?) smile. The badge needs to have elements of climate alarmism or rebuttal, as does the one with the flames for mouth but the eyes and nose need to be climate specific. I like Gail Combs’ ear muff idea which can be interpreted as climate cooling or to reduce hearing of alarmist hot air. Hey, a committee design? Sorry, couldn’t resist – it would be more rational committee than average, though some would say that is a contradiction. Finger pointing at sun is a good idea if it works out graphically – how about sun in a halo position? I like the Alfred E. Neuman idea but it is too obscure though changing mouth to hockey stick and putting sun above might help. Putting the words What Me Worry? on the badge would help but it must stay simple – the challenge is to get good simple graphical elements that climate alarmists would recognize. (The best badge would communicate to lay voters but that may be difficult to design.)
So the criteria:
– positive for humans (yellow/smile)
– unique
– identifiable as for climate debate, at least to alarmists, thus I suggest;
o broken hockey stick smile (a real hockey stick not detailed graph)
o outer edge looks like classic sun edge symbol (jagged), so whole face looks like sun
o a cloud as hair
o penetrating eyes, if that is artistically possible (arched eyebrow is a good suggestion, the Prince of Powerpoint face is good)
o thermometer nose (temp going down or up? no, blue one half yellow the other)
😉
The badge/button idea was a lot of fun but appears to have faded into memory.
If no one objects, I’ll go ahead and produce some of the versions I designed.
REPLY: Oh I haven’t forgotten, I plan to run a poll on it to choose favorite designs…just wanted to get Russell report under my belt first – Anthony
Thanks for the reply Anthony.
Late entry from Stoaty, who after a bit of email chat has reworked my idea of turning a question mark to a sceptical smile.
http://tallbloke.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/tonguesmiley.jpg
I noticed that the recycling symbol has a six sided patter that fits nicely into the center hexagon of the yellow star of David. Add a circle with yellow slash over the recycling symbol and make that colored orange like the sun. Now the points of the star look like sun rays. Add six more lighter yellow points in between the points on the star of david and you have my design. The star of david is still distinguishable and you have the shameful symbol of someone who, horribly, is against recycling.
I’ve only got paint so it is hard for me to make this.