Arizona gets some interesting new minimum high records

From the “weather is not climate department”….whether it is cold or snow, long lived records keep falling, and recently in large numbers.

Today, new “minimum high” records fell in a traditionally warm southwest state.

Flagstaff, and Prescott, Williams, and Winslow Arizona all significantly bested the old records set on this date. Here’s the outlook map from the NWS Flagstaff:

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Forecast map from NWS Flagstaff, AZ

And here is the NWS record event report:

FGZ

RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE FLAGSTAFF, AZ
713 PM MST WED OCT 28 2009

...RECORD LOW HIGH TEMPERATURES FOR NORTHERN ARIZONA ON OCT 28 2009...

CITY (PERIOD OF RECORD)          NEW LOW HIGH    PREVIOUS RECORD/YEAR
FLAGSTAFF (1898 - 2009)                32          35         IN  1996
FORT VALLEY (1909 - 2009)              31          32         IN  1972
GRAND CANYON NP S RIM (1966 - 2009)    36          37         IN  1989
GREER (1905 - 2009)                    27          35         IN  1991
HEBER RS (1950 - 2009)                 31          36         IN  1976
PAGE (1958 - 2009)                     42          48         IN  1996
PHANTOM RANCH (1966 - 2009)            48          58         IN  2000
PRESCOTT (1898 - 2009)                 38          46         IN  1996
WILLIAMS (1897 - 2009)                 30          39         IN  1996
WINSLOW (1893 - 2009)                  43          47         IN  1991

...RECORD LOW TEMPERATURES FOR NORTHERN ARIZONA ON OCT 28 2009...

CITY (PERIOD OF RECORD)            NEW LOW       PREVIOUS RECORD/YEAR
NAVAJO NM (1939 - 2009)                16          19         IN  1970
PHANTOM RANCH (1966 - 2009)            41          41 (TIED)  IN  1970

THESE RECORDS ARE PRELIMINARY PENDING OFFICIAL REPORTS.

h/t to Gene Nemetz, now send in the trolls

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72 Responses to Arizona gets some interesting new minimum high records

  1. Frank says:

    But weather is not climate, right?

  2. gtrip says:

    Back in mid Dec 1998, the year of peak global warmth, it snowed in Phoenix.

  3. HarryG says:

    Is it time to short on the price of Snow Ploughs and Shovels yet?

  4. Marx Hugoson says:

    I’m here, in PHX not Mpls.

    This morning the outside digital temp gauge said 44.7 F.

    Checked Mpls, 50 F, checked my Brother in Chicago, 54 F.

    What gives, I’m freezing my tush off in PHX? Only way I’ll survive tonight is
    in the 104 F…OUTDOOR HOT TUB! (Which, is fueled by OIL and NUCLEAR..)

  5. Back2Bat says:

    “h/t to Gene Nemetz, now send in the trolls”

    Yesterday and today were jacket weather in Tucson which usually waits tills November. Also, for Pam’s info, the ground squirrels went into hibernation about a week ago, I reckon.

  6. TH says:

    Northern Colorado is having the coldest October on record, and we are buried under feet of snow.

  7. Don B says:

    I have always liked this record high graph for the US, and I continue to wonder if anyone has put together a record low (or record low high) graph, on an inverted vertical scale, so that this graph and the lows graph can be shown together. It could be interesting.

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_b5jZxTCSlm0/SXDqGqEl6GI/AAAAAAAACdk/ndOqfFgogd8/s1600-h/Extreme+High+Temperature+Records+By+State+By+Month+-+January+2009+Update.JPG

  8. Don B says:

    Interstate I-70 from near Denver to Kansas is closed because of snow.

    Independence Pass near Aspen is closed for the season, a week early.

    http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_13668871

  9. rbateman says:

    Brrr…. Bearizona.
    It’s that plunging cold coming out of the North.

  10. rbateman says:

    Frank (17:32:56) :

    Weather is not exactly Climate.
    In Arizona, tonight, it’s salt rubbed into wounds.
    Meanwhile, in DC, scowling faces make excuses for holding the economy under ice water to drown.

  11. Gene Nemetz says:

    now send in the trolls

    They might stay under the bridge. They seem to not like snow.

  12. Antonio San says:

    I think they should turn the record cold upside down since it does not matter… LOL

  13. Sean says:

    I wrote the following to Tom Toles of the Washington Post the following note:

    “You could have just as easily done a cartoon that had Jim Hansen sanding in a foot of snow wearing a Holloween in Denver saying “this is consistent with the model predictions”. ‘

    I think given the intensity and location of the storm, its as if Autumn got dressed up as old man winter and crashed the UCAR Holloween Party.

  14. Philip_B says:

    An important influence on SSTs, and through SSTs, OHC, is winter cooling of the N Atlantic and N. Pacific by cold air masses moving eastward from the continents. The colder these air masses are, the more SSTs are lowered.

    This effect is easily the largest atmospheric effect on SSTs.

    Consequently, we should start to see SSTs decline in the coming months and OHC declines shortly afterward.

  15. This morning in South Colorado (San Juan mountains north of Los Alamos) it was -15 degrees Celsius (5 degrees Fahrenheit). The temperature remained below freezing point all day, despite the occasional sunshine, and now, after sunset, is dropping fast again.

    We are running two stoves, wood stove and pellet stove, simultaneously, to keep warm. The backhoe wouldn’t start this morning, frozen, it was necessary to jump start it from the pickup truck after splashing some hot water on cylinders. Some end of October for the American Southwest!

  16. DaveE says:

    How long can it be before the sheeple start asking questions?

    DaveE.

  17. Back2Bat says:

    How long can it be before the sheeple start asking questions? DaveE

    It bleats me.

  18. Kirls says:

    gtrip (17:34:19) :

    “Back in mid Dec 1998, the year of peak global warmth, it snowed in Phoenix.”

    I have lived in Phoenix since 1988. I remember that snow. It didn’t just drop a few snow flakes either. it stayed on the ground for hours. kids were out building muddy snowmen. for hours! in the middle of the day too.

    not the first time it has snowed here. happens about once every ten years it seems.

  19. tokyoboy says:

    826 counted in, 5658 counted out.
    10:55 am JST, Friday 30 October.

  20. royfomr says:

    Climate is just peer- reviewed weather. Only warm weather is peer-reviewed!

  21. Joe Miner says:

    @ Don B (17:45:10) :

    Thanks for the link!

  22. Jimmy Haigh says:

    DaveE (18:12:19) :

    How long can it be before the sheeple start asking questions?

    Back2Bat (18:27:48) :

    It bleats me.

    If it gets really ba-ad, maybe then the sheeple will ask what the flock it’s all about.

  23. Sigurdur says:

    You bunch of pansies! October in my area is running 7.5F below the 30 year mean. That requires a whole lot more cold days than just a few.

    North Dakota by the way…where if Boxer/Kerry is passed our elec bills will rise around 1,000 per year. Yep….good stuff.

  24. Gene Nemetz says:

    rbateman (17:54:31) :

    Frank (17:32:56) :

    Weather is not exactly Climate.

    Record cold and snow now, again, shouldn’t be happening now in global warming—yes global warming—as Seth Borenstein has made certain we call it.

    Thank you for that Seth Borenstein!

  25. Tom S. says:

    Yup its certainly cold here in Flagstaff.. Feels more like January weather at the moment. Its been a very dry year so far though, I’m interested in seeing how our winter precipitation will pan out. The last 8 years or so have been quite dry compared to historical averages.

    (Hopefully my 4×4 was a good investment lol)

  26. Gene Nemetz says:

    Speaking of Seth Borenstein….

    I see someone at Grist loves him :

    I heart Seth Borenstein

    http://www.grist.org/article/i-heart-seth-borenstein/

    The same fellow doesn’t like Freeman Dyson :

    http://www.grist.org/article/2009-10-28-is-freeman-dyson-really-brave

  27. Patrick Davis says:

    “DaveE (18:12:19) :

    How long can it be before the sheeple start asking questions?

    DaveE.”

    That’s what I’ve been asking my UK freinds to do, but to no avail. They appear to have fallen for AGW hook, line and sinker. They all appear to trust the athorities on the subject an ddon’t have time to ask, reseach and wonder why. I even pointed out the blatant un-science from Dr K. Briffa and his special tree. Nope, sill no good. You can lead a horse to a water hole, but you can’t make it drink.

  28. dot forward says:

    Didn’t realize Al Gore was in Arizona.

  29. Squidly says:

    Sigurdur (19:13:27) :

    Would that be anywhere near Fargo, North Dakota? It took me 25 years to get out of that god forsaken place ;-)

    Although, North Dakota does currently have the nations lowest unemployment rate.

    cheers!

  30. Gene Nemetz says:

    Sean (18:03:08) :

    I wrote the following to Tom Toles of the Washington Post the following note:

    “You could have just as easily done a cartoon that had Jim Hansen sanding in a foot of snow wearing a Holloween in Denver saying “this is consistent with the model predictions”.

    ROFL!

  31. DaveE says:

    Jimmy Haigh (19:12:11) :

    DaveE (18:12:19) :

    How long can it be before the sheeple start asking questions?

    Back2Bat (18:27:48) :

    It bleats me.

    If it gets really ba-ad, maybe then the sheeple will ask what the flock it’s all about.

    With any luck, before they’re fleeced.

    SaveE.

  32. DaveE says:

    FFS.

    DaveE!

  33. rbateman says:

    Gene Nemetz (19:16:36) :

    Record cold should not be happening all the while the Senate holds hearing on the Global Warming legislation before it, but it is.
    Boxer was in a dark mood there and unmistakably short. Even I did not expect the cold to come so quickly the past few years, but come it has.
    Fair to say, Gene, that both the Climate and the Weather are in the Penalty box.
    Lessons are not learned, mistakes repeated.
    This cold is a stark reminder of how we do not control nature, though some have sought to legislate on it.
    We are along for the ride, and there’s no opt out.

  34. Gene Nemetz says:

    royfomr (18:59:25) :

    Climate is just peer- reviewed weather. Only warm weather is peer-reviewed!

    Also, only certain surface stations are allowed by some ‘peers’. The rest aren’t. EMSmith is pointing out that California mountain stations where is it cooler in summer and very cold in winter aren’t used anymore. The ‘peers’ won’t allow them into their world I guess. But the the California surface stations where it’s warmer are accepted by ‘peer-reviewers’. Must be that ‘West Coast bias’.

  35. Gene Nemetz says:

    DaveE (19:50:06) :

    With any luck, before they’re fleeced.

    It’s very hard to fleece people that are paying attention. So Americans, and the world, need to start paying attention, especially when it comes time to vote.

  36. rbateman says:

    How long can it be before the sheeple start asking questions?

    You bet your sweet bippie they are asking questions right now.
    And how.
    This run of record cold was NOT supposed to happen, and neither was the nearly non-existant hurricane season. The gardens in a good portion of this country were not supposed to fail from lack of Summer.
    What’s missing here is not the sheepie asking questions.
    The missing link is that our Leaders are supposed to be taking notice of the Big Chill Change, and saying : “Hey, wait just a doggone minute”.
    You know, like what happened when the Coming Ice Age gave way to decades of sizzling summers and bountiful crops?
    Hey you, Gore, yeah you. Get over here.
    I thought you told us it was going to get hotter faster than anyone had previously imagined. Well, did you just imagine that, or what?

  37. DaveE says:

    Gene Nemetz (19:57:43) :

    Really ruined a nice run of sheep jokes LOL

    DaveE.

  38. austin says:

    The other thing to note is that the medium to long range models are way underestimating this. The NAM has had the best day to day consistency and skill on this weather.

    This October will go down as the coldest on record in Texas.

  39. Methow Ken says:

    The new record low high that really caught my eye was the one for Phantom Ranch, which is at the BOTTOM of the Grand Canyon:
    It beat the record established over 43 years by a full TEN degrees.
    I was just there on a raft trip down the Colorado River in September of this year, and (lucky for us) it was in the 80s the day we stopped at Phantom Ranch.

    48 degrees for a HIGH temp at Phantom Ranch in OCTOBER:
    You almost need to have hiked down or floated by on the river, to appreciate how cold that feels for that place WAY down in the bottom of the Canyon this early in the year. I bet there were a bunch of rafters freezing their butts off; expecting that the weather would still be reasonably pleasant this time of year (remember that the water in the Colorado River coming out of the bottom of Glen Canyon dam is COLD).

  40. Fluffy Clouds (Tim L) says:

    and it is all just beginning!!!………
    yap… pdo cold amo just cooling off…..
    hold on to your parkas you’ll need em!

  41. Carlos says:

    These cold records would not be surprising if only Gore was planning some sort of book tour.

    Oh wait…

  42. Frederick Michael says:

    rbateman (19:55:10) :

    Boxer was in a dark mood there and unmistakably short.

    Calling Boxer short is over the top — and a bad pun.

    [REPLY - But brief. ~ E]

  43. Richard Patton says:

    @Austin
    “The other thing to note is that the medium to long range models are way underestimating this. The NAM has had the best day to day consistency and skill on this weather.”

    It’s not just the medium to long range models, the forecasters here in PDX have complained a couple of times this month how the *short range* (12hr) progs have been unreliable. A couple of weeks ago all the progs were saying that we were supposed to get 1-2″ of rain with minor flooding but we didn’t get a drop of rain.

  44. David Q. says:

    It is snowing in Mexico (not only the new one). See this:

    http://www.natice.noaa.gov/ims/index.htm
    select the United States image.
    Once you have done that, go back and select the Rutgers University Global Snow Lab. Click on “Daily” and then click on “Chart Departure”. There is not supposed to be any snow in Mexico. In fact, I don’t think I have seen snow in Mexico on this site before…

    The chart departure indicates there is millions of square kilometers of extra snow around the northern hemisphere right now. I have watched this site for a few years now. The amount of extra snow is quite amazing.

  45. Lee Kington says:

    Tucson for Oct. 29

    High temp…… 59 Record low high. Previous record.. 61 in 1961.
    Low temps…. 30 degrees below average for the date.

  46. Kevin Cave says:

    Well, here in Japan, we’re having a relatively mild Autumn – I’m waiting for the cold weather to really kick in but it seems the Japane Met Agency are syaing at least the next few weeks and months will be warmer than average (sounds familiar). Actually, they’re saying the winter season (Dec-Feb) temperatures will be above normal. And I prefer winter too. Maybe I should move to the US – you sure do seem to be getting a nice cold season already ;)

  47. Gene Nemetz says:

    DaveE (20:15:05) :

    Opps, sorry. I’ll try to be on my toes next time.

    You’re right, a couple were pretty good.

    p.s. you’re the DaveE that used to comment a lot on YouTube with gerjanp?

  48. Kaboom says:

    Jimmy Haigh (19:12:11) :

    DaveE (18:12:19) :

    How long can it be before the sheeple start asking questions?

    Back2Bat (18:27:48) :

    It bleats me.

    If it gets really ba-ad, maybe then the sheeple will ask what the flock it’s all about.

    With any luck, before they’re fleeced.

    DaveE.

    Ewe lot simply don’t know what motivates the sheeple. How often have they demonstrated any sort of ability to ask questions, especially with the modern need to ram education down their collective throats.

    However, with the encroaching winter weather in the USA, a woollen coat will be a decided advantage….

  49. Patrick Davis says:

    “DaveE (20:15:05) :

    Gene Nemetz (19:57:43) :

    Really ruined a nice run of sheep jokes LOL

    DaveE.”

    It’s even funnier with Aussies and Kwiws and sheep joks.

  50. Cassandra King says:

    Meanwhile back in the land of denial(no not Egypt) the UK met office is still doggedly trying to sell its ‘forecasts’ of a warm/mild winter.
    If anyone wants to see denial in action, if you are interested in seeing the result of wishful thinking in action then a visit to the met office site is worth it.

    Meanwhile back at the ranch, the Copenhagen scaremongering festival now has a new scare tactic with which to batter a recalcitrant and unwilling population into compliance.

    ‘climate change refugees’ is the new cunning plan from AAM HQ, as the contrived evidence for AAM collapses around them the alarmists have upped the ante by conflating and misrepresenting normal third world population shifts as refugees fleeing from AAM/AGW/MMCC. Ably assisted by UN agencies placing rumours of aid relief(free food) at various points in the third world, tell poor people that there is free stuff over the next border/mountain/region and those people will be attracted to the aid like a magnet, all it takes is a rumour and desperate people will congregate and the media vultures will be there waiting to take the heart string tugging pictures so beloved of the likes of oxfam et al.
    Tell a big enough lie and tell it often enough and there are people who will believe it, join the lies to a visual feed and it becomes very effective.
    So now we are being subjected to reports of coastal populations being forced to evacuate and abandon their homes, obviously for that lie to work then the timescale must be ignored completely, after all the scare wont work if people found out it would take centuries at least for sea levels to cause flooding.
    Can you imagine the laughter if the scare was reported like this… ‘danger danger run for your lives the great flood is coming we must all flee to high ground NOW because in a hundred years the sea might drown us all’!

    We are all climate refugees now? well, in a century or two maybe!

  51. Roger Sowell says:

    California is about 2 deg F colder than average for October 2009. (Oct 1 – Oct 28). Will be interesting to see how NOAA spins this one, making it the hottest October on record.

    http://tinypic.com/r/29pdxr5/4

    This is from http://www.calclim.dri.edu/

  52. Gene Nemetz says:

    Alexander Feht (18:10:19) :

    Some end of October for the American Southwest!

    I’m wondering how harsh this winter will be. I’m wondering if this will continue as a general trend for 30-40 years as some have forecast from learning about patterns in the sun. I am wondering if some parts of the world will have food shortages in soon coming years from shorter growing seasons.

    This morning in South Colorado

    You must get huge snow storms there. I think snow in trees after a storm is wonderful. I always love seeing it. Beauty everywhere you look. A bit of heaven on earth.

    We are running two stoves

    I hope you have a good supply of wood that has taken in to account that winter will likely be colder, with more snow, and last longer. I, myself, have always loved hot chocolate, siting by the stove, and looking out the window at the snow.

  53. Gene Nemetz says:

    Roger Sowell (23:28:02) :

    October data should be interesting indeed.

  54. Gene Nemetz says:

    David Q. (22:01:48) :

    Here is the page from the link copied from the address window at top :

    http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/chart_daily.php?ui_year=2009&ui_day=302&ui_set=2

    This illustration show the snow in Mexico (as you have already pointed out: not New Mexico) :

    http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/chart_daily.php?ui_year=2009&ui_day=302&ui_set=0

  55. Gene Nemetz says:

    David Q. (22:01:48) : David,

    Thanks for the link–I found a new toy!

    ————-

    Animation of the last 31 days that ends with the snow in Mexico you talked about :

    http://www.natice.noaa.gov/ims/loop/usa-1mo-loop.html

  56. tallbloke says:

    DaveE (20:15:05) :

    Gene Nemetz (19:57:43) :

    Really ruined a nice run of sheep jokes LOL

    Never mind, ewe will get over it.

  57. Horace says:

    I live in Tempe, a suburb of Phoenix. Yesterday I woke up early and looked at the non-official temp site in Chandler, city next door. Temp was 37 Deg. F.

    Verfied this on my own outdoor thermometer.

    Went to the “official” temp site for Phoenix, Sky Harbor airport, embedded in the center of the city. “Official” low for the night was 45 deg. F. at the airport.

    I guess putting the temp sensor in the middle of a sea of asphalt, running jet engines, and the the concrete and roofing of the fifth largest city in the country
    keeps those mins up!

    Amazing that we’re getting the lows we’re getting, given the stacking of the deck.

    It’s cold here in the desert.

  58. Dan says:

    “Jimmy Haigh (19:12:11) :
    DaveE (18:12:19) :
    How long can it be before the sheeple start asking questions?
    Back2Bat (18:27:48) :
    It bleats me.
    If it gets really ba-ad, maybe then the sheeple will ask what the flock it’s all about.
    With any luck, before they’re fleeced.
    SaveE.”

    No elitism here.

  59. DaveE says:

    Gene Nemetz (22:59:59) :

    p.s. you’re the DaveE that used to comment a lot on YouTube with gerjanp?

    I do sometimes post there, but not with this moniker.

    I do know gerjanp quite well too. (Well enough to know his real name, as do you.)

    I got sick of the attitude there, (both ‘sides’) so avoid it generally.

    DaveE.

  60. ShrNfr says:

    Hey, I need some help up here in Boston. I moved 2 tons of my wood pellets for my pellet stove that I use to warm my house. I have another ton to go. You get tired doing that. Anyway, the guy is going to deliver another 3 tons pretty soon and I have to get them moved. I can stow them someplace out of the way, but I would rather have them indoors. When wood pellets get wet, they go back to sawdust and clog your auger. I am prepared for BIG AL (getting bigger all the time). I figure with COP15, we should have a high temp of 0 F doe most of the winter.

  61. Back2Bat says:

    “This is a happy occasion! Let’s not bicker and argue about ewe killed ewe.”

  62. stephen richards says:

    You poor soles. If its cold where you are its warm somewhere else and sure enough here in SW France we are having a superb spell of global-local warming. Virtually no rain since june, temps consistently above norm and this week temps varying between 26 and 28°C daytime max. Bring on the warming I love it.

    Winter forecast. UK Met warm, Acc Weather cold mid and late, chinois very cold winter generally. On verra.

    Stay warm in the US

  63. Steve Keohane says:

    Methow Ken (20:31:44) People may not realize how cold that is for Phantom Ranch. I went through there in May a few years back at 105°F, well before the summer heat.
    Here in west central Colorado we recieved ~6″ of snow, .55″ moisture content. Snow this early is not unusual…what is unusual is that it snowed over 72 hours now and hasn’t been above freezing. A quick inch or two and a cool day in the 40’s would be usual. Can’t help but think a widely impacting snowstorm like this will affect albedo, will require unusual amounts of heat to melt the snow, thus making for an early loss of the retained heat from summer. This without mentioning the fact that summer began a month late, we had three nights in the 30’s the first week of August, and from the first day after the equinox, it froze 10 nights the first two weeks of fall. It can be argued any of these isn’t unusual weather. As singular events, true. The coincidence of so many that seem contrary to ‘warming’ perhaps odd, yet the extreme of each, either in temperature range or duration, plus their coincidence seems extreme.

  64. Henry chance says:

    Send the trolls to the southwest. With snowfall, the jobs are shovel ready.

    If snow and ice is early and colder, it seems to me that would hurt prospects for taxing energy.

  65. Gene Nemetz says:

    DaveE (06:30:15) :

    (Well enough to know his real name, as do you.)

    Her.

  66. David Alan says:

    All weather records, tied or broken, for all dates available (starting on 1/1/2009), for ALL States (ending 10/29/2009)
    (All Records): 92446
    (H) High Temperature: 12290
    (HM) Highest Minimum Temperature: 14261
    (L) Low Temperature: 8955
    (LM) Lowest Maximum Temperature: 17486
    (R) Rain/Precipitation: 34170
    (S) Snow: 5284
    Warm (H + HM) Records: 28.9%
    Cold (L + LM) Records: 28.9%
    Precip. (R + S) Records: 43.2%
    This data came from extremeweatherrecords.com
    and hamweather.com . Neither site has a complete tally for the year, so I put the data together.
    From what I could research, low records are about to exceed high records for the first time in 10 years, maybe longer. Maybe someone could link me a site that stores the data sets for extreme weather for the last 20 years. That would prove very helpful.
    Now alarmists can say all they want, but with two months to go and a full winter ahead of us, 2009 is stacking up to be the coldest ever in over a hundred years or longer, in US history.
    I know one year doesn’t break a trend, but it does call into question the predictions for a dry, drought-ridden, hurricane/tornado infested and ever higher temp. record year. None of those predictions proved accurate and cold anomaly weather records and the opposite of those predictions is happening.
    Hurricanes..none. BBQ summer..none. Tornadoes..hmm, very little. Arctic Ice.. sorry, rebounding. Polar Bears.. are you *#?@+/* kidding me.. next. I thought we were being told that these events would be ever increasing– oh wait– this just in.. ‘or possibly in the next, oh , 2 to 50 years’.
    Give me a break.
    Even in IPCC’s report, they comment that their predictions could be 20% off.
    Is our lives now and those of our children likened to a football game point spread and we’re makin bets to the bookie for our future well being and the payoff is GREEN Tech shoved down our throats . Only to wake up and find out that AGW was wrong and we’re battling hunger and starvation and death because we lost our bet to a new LIA.
    Time to wake up America!

  67. David Alan says:

    Oops. Got my percentages wrong.
    Should read:
    Warm (H + HM) Records: 28.8%
    Cold (L + LM) Records: 28.6%
    Precip. (R + S) Records: 42.6%
    Sorry.

  68. David Alan says:

    Ok. So I do a web crawl for monthly temperature records and the second hit I get is this:

    The United States Historical Climatology Network (USHCN)

    Main Page Long-Term Daily and Monthly Climate Records from. Stations Across the Contiguous United States ..

    cdiac.ornl.gov/../ushcn.html

    No big deal right? Access to USHCN data is on the Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center web site. I just find that to be weird. Why isn’t it on the USHCN website. Is the DOE performing cutbacks? Or is this there way to say, “Hey, CO2 is temperature.” Sorry, I’m just feeling a bit sarcastic lately.

  69. Steve Keohane says:

    David Alan (20:00:08) What you say is even more impressive in light of the fact the temperatures are actually lower than reported, so it is much colder than the numbers say.

  70. David Alan says:

    Steve Keohane (6:59:00):”.. the temperatures are actually lower than reported, so it is much colder than the numbers say. ”

    There are several factors I believe to support what you say Steve.

    Anthony Watts has been researching surface stations for some time. A small percentage of those stations are poorly regulated and many others improperly placed. How accurate those temp stations are could affect anomoly charts.
    Another aspect of surface stations is the reorganizing and the replacment of surface stations. A good many surface stations have been moved, i.e. from older airports to newer airports, causing records to be slightly askew.

    Another point I’d like to make is while I’m only focusing on extreme weather, possible cooling trends exsist in many places. Northeast U S had a colder than average summer. Illinois had its coldest summer ever. Many plain states and gulf states had cooler weather than expected. During the summer, the west coast states had above average higher temperatures, but is now experiencing some wicked cold weather.

    But to get to your point, which is temperatures are acually colder, all one has to do is notice, even with questionable surface station readings, the variance from the norm.. For instance Denvers average snowfall for Oct. is just under 4 in. This October is over a foot of snow. Average Oct. temp in Denver is 54 °. This Oct is under 44°. Its the severity and degree of separation from the norm that is amazing and gets very little track on MSM. And its not just happening in Denver, but many places and spread over months and months. Flucuations from average, around the US, is enormous. The degree of variance is too great to overlook. Its not just temperature, its also rain and snow. Early snow has impacted every state across the northern corridor. From Washington State to Maine. In California, while the state had a above average summer temps., record snowfall and precipitation is taking place.

    My conclusion is this: This is but a start to even more cooler weather. Are we prepared?

  71. Bill P says:

    You bet your sweet bippie they are asking questions right now.
    And how.
    This run of record cold was NOT supposed to happen, and neither was the nearly non-existant hurricane season.

    Problem is, cold makes people stay penned up in their homes. What do they do for entertainment? Read the bleating Seth Borenstein articles on the AP,

    http://www.climatedepot.com/a/2546/Climate-Depot-Serving-as-the-Medias-Ombudsman-Long-sad-history-of-AP-reporter-Seth-Borensteins-woeful-global-warming-reporting

    watch the climate alarmists issuing from such unbiased sources as Climate Central, as they pontificate on nightly news,

    http://www.climatecentral.org/video/

    And listen to Obama and other leaders pump up the base for the coming Copenhagen shoot-out.

    Meanwhile, this:

    Analysts said the pace of the corn harvest is the slowest since the Department of Agriculture started keeping records in 1985.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125656490009708113.html

  72. Roger Sowell says:

    NOAA via http://www.calclim.dri.edu/ gave a pretty good monthly summary graph – showing California at between 2 to 4 degrees colder than the norm.

    The site also shows a barchart of California October temperature deviations from 1895. This chart shows it is getting colder, as 10 out of the last 15 years are below the norm. NOAA uses the period 1949 to 2005 as the base period.

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