NOAA: U.S. breaks or ties 115 cold and sets 63 new snowfall records

Of course many of you that live in this weather already know this, but there is an early start to winter this year, not only in the USA, but also in London, where it snowed in October for the first time in over 70 years.

So far, no mention of this broadly distributed U.S. record event in the mainstream media. There are a few individual mentions or record lows in Florida. See this Google News search.

Here, from NOAA’s  National Climatic Data Center (NCDC), is a list of these new or tied records for October 29th, 2008.

I find the -25 below in Alaska interesting, since it bested the old record by 4 degrees.

Here are the 115 new or tied low temperature records:

The table below has been formatting to fit the blog, Here is a direct link to the original data from NCDC

29 October 2008 Record
New (83)
Tied (32)
Previous
Record
Previous
Year
Period
of
Record
CIRCLE HOT SPRINGS, AK -25.0°F -21.0°F 2001 44
TONSINA, AK -17.0°F -16.0°F 1985 42
CAMP HILL 2 NW, AL 21.0°F 25.0°F 1968 76
HAMILTON 3 S, AL 23.0°F 24.0°F 1968 45
CENTREVILLE 6 SW, AL 26.0°F 28.0°F 2001 32
MUSCLE SHOALS AP, AL (KMSL) 27.0°F 28.0°F 1952 67
GREENVILLE, AL 28.0°F 29.0°F 2001 78
GENEVA #2, AL 29.0°F 29.0°F 2001 32
HIGHLAND HOME, AL 29.0°F 30.0°F 1976 112
HUNTSVILLE INTL AP, AL (KHSV) 30.0°F 30.0°F 2005 50
MONTGOMERY AP ASOS, AL (KMGM) 31.0°F 32.0°F 2001 60
ATMORE, AL 32.0°F 33.0°F 2001 48
MOBILE RGNL AP, AL (KMOB) 32.0°F 36.0°F 1987 60
FAIRHOPE 2 NE, AL 33.0°F 34.0°F 1952 89
CODEN, AL 34.0°F 35.0°F 1957 43
DAUPHIN IS #2, AL 47.0°F 48.0°F 2001 32
BOONEVILLE 3 SSE, AR 28.0°F 29.0°F 1993 30
MURFREESBORO 1 W, AR 29.0°F 29.0°F 1993 33
SPARKMAN, AR 29.0°F 29.0°F 2005 40
FORDYCE, AR 30.0°F 30.0°F 1993 71
ROHWER 2 NNE, AR 31.0°F 32.0°F 1997 47
WEST MEMPHIS, AR 31.0°F 33.0°F 1976 45
BLYTHEVILLE, AR 32.0°F 32.0°F 1939 79
EUDORA, AR 32.0°F 32.0°F 1997 45
PERRY, FL 29.0°F 32.0°F 1987 71
TALLAHASSEE WSO AP, FL (KTLH) 29.0°F 31.0°F 1987 63
GLEN ST MARY 1 W, FL 29.0°F 32.0°F 1957 80
MAYO, FL 30.0°F 30.0°F 1957 57
NICEVILLE, FL 31.0°F 33.0°F 2001 62
JACKSONVILLE INTL AP, FL (KJAX) 33.0°F 39.0°F 1987 60
APALACHICOLA AP, FL (KAAF) 34.0°F 41.0°F 1976 76
PENSACOLA RGNL AP, FL (KPNS) 36.0°F 38.0°F 1968 60
TAMPA WSCMO AP, FL (KTPA) 42.0°F 45.0°F 1963 75
ORLANDO INTL AP, FL (KMCO) 43.0°F 49.0°F 1952 54
DAYTONA BEACH INTL AP, FL (KDAB) 44.0°F 46.0°F 1957 60
KISSIMMEE 2, FL 44.0°F 45.0°F 1968 46
VERO BEACH INTL AP, FL (KVRB) 46.0°F 48.0°F 1943 57
FT MYERS PAGE FLD AP, FL (KFMY) 47.0°F 47.0°F 1910 109
WEST PALM BCH INTL AP, FL (KPBI) 49.0°F 51.0°F 1944 69
MIAMI INTL AP, FL (KMIA) 55.0°F 61.0°F 1968 60
FT LAUDERDALE INTL AP, FL (KFLL) 55.0°F 62.0°F 2006 35
KEY WEST INTL AP, FL (KEYW) 61.0°F 66.0°F 1957 56
NAHUNTA 6 NE, GA 28.0°F 30.0°F 1957 45
PLAINS SW GA EXP STN, GA 30.0°F 30.0°F 2001 52
BLAKELY, GA 31.0°F 34.0°F 1976 95
ALBANY CAA AP, GA 31.0°F 35.0°F 1952 33
BRUNSWICK, GA 39.0°F 40.0°F 1957 90
CASSODAY, KS 24.0°F 24.0°F 1993 46
IOLA 1 W, KS 26.0°F 26.0°F 1980 48
HOMER 3 SSW, LA 27.0°F 33.0°F 2001 55
BASTROP, LA 29.0°F 31.0°F 2005 78
ASHLAND, LA 30.0°F 32.0°F 2005 54
MONROE ULM, LA 30.0°F 32.0°F 2005 31
ALEXANDRIA AP, LA (KESF) 31.0°F 31.0°F 2005 56
MANSFIELD, LA 33.0°F 34.0°F 2005 32
JONESVILLE LOCKS, LA 33.0°F 39.0°F 2005 36
SLIDELL, LA 34.0°F 35.0°F 1957 52
BUNKIE, LA 34.0°F 34.0°F 1957 50
RED RVR RSCH STN, LA 34.0°F 35.0°F 2001 31
RESERVE, LA 35.0°F 35.0°F 1913 101
BOYCE 3 WNW, LA 39.0°F 41.0°F 2001 31
GALENA, MO 22.0°F 25.0°F 1963 43
MT VERNON M U SW CTR, MO 22.0°F 25.0°F 1980 48
BUFFALO 2 N, MO 22.0°F 23.0°F 1980 44
WASOLA, MO 25.0°F 26.0°F 1952 61
HICKORY FLAT, MS 26.0°F 27.0°F 2001 51
OAKLEY EXP STN, MS 27.0°F 28.0°F 2001 37
WINONA 5 E, MS 28.0°F 28.0°F 2001 54
GRENADA 5 NNE, MS 28.0°F 29.0°F 1957 53
MCCOMB AP, MS (KMCB) 31.0°F 34.0°F 1957 60
WIGGINS, MS 32.0°F 34.0°F 1957 52
ROLLING FORK, MS 32.0°F 35.0°F 2005 35
PASCAGOULA 3 NE, MS 33.0°F 33.0°F 1987 71
YAZOO CITY 5 NNE, MS 33.0°F 33.0°F 1963 46
GRANDFATHER MTN, NC 17.0°F 17.0°F 1968 52
SUPERIOR 4E, NE 20.0°F 21.0°F 1991 53
TUSKAHOMA, OK 24.0°F 31.0°F 1973 46
MARIETTA 5SW, OK 25.0°F 26.0°F 1952 67
LINDSAY 2 W, OK 27.0°F 31.0°F 1993 43
KEYSTONE DAM, OK 28.0°F 29.0°F 1980 41
PERRY, OK 28.0°F 28.0°F 1980 89
BROKEN BOW DAM, OK 32.0°F 32.0°F 1973 34
SANDHILL RSCH ELGIN, SC 30.0°F 30.0°F 1976 50
DICKSON, TN 23.0°F 23.0°F 1952 106
AMES PLANTATION, TN 28.0°F 29.0°F 2001 31
JOHNSON CITY, TX 28.0°F 34.0°F 1970 41
GILMER 4 WNW, TX 28.0°F 30.0°F 1952 72
MT VERNON, TX 28.0°F 35.0°F 1973 42
SMITHVILLE, TX 28.0°F 34.0°F 1957 81
WARREN 2 S, TX 29.0°F 33.0°F 1957 32
WEATHERFORD, TX 29.0°F 29.0°F 1913 103
EMORY, TX 29.0°F 35.0°F 1995 42
GREENVILLE KGVL RADIO, TX 30.0°F 30.0°F 1952 103
MADISONVILLE, TX 30.0°F 31.0°F 1955 61
CENTERVILLE, TX 30.0°F 33.0°F 1970 65
KERRVILLE 3 NNE, TX 31.0°F 36.0°F 2006 34
CENTER, TX 31.0°F 31.0°F 1952 65
FOWLERTON, TX 32.0°F 32.0°F 1970 52
HILLSBORO, TX 32.0°F 32.0°F 1913 97
HENDERSON, TX 32.0°F 36.0°F 1973 67
AUSTIN BERGSTROM INTL, TX (KAUS) 33.0°F 37.0°F 1970 35
CLEVELAND, TX 33.0°F 35.0°F 1965 44
HONDO MUNI AP, TX (KHDO) 34.0°F 40.0°F 1993 37
GRAPEVINE DAM, TX 35.0°F 35.0°F 1910 66
LONGVIEW 11 SE, TX 35.0°F 38.0°F 1993 33
LA GRANGE, TX 36.0°F 38.0°F 2005 46
TOWN BLUFF DAM, TX 36.0°F 37.0°F 2001 37
JACKSONVILLE, TX 36.0°F 36.0°F 1970 44
VICTORIA ASOS, TX (KVCT) 37.0°F 40.0°F 1980 53
STILLHOUSE HOLLOW DAM, TX 37.0°F 38.0°F 1970 40
EL CAMPO, TX 38.0°F 39.0°F 1970 36
MATAGORDA 2, TX 40.0°F 40.0°F 1952 78
ARANSAS WR, TX 40.0°F 46.0°F 1980 35
POINT COMFORT, TX 42.0°F 43.0°F 2007 48
RAYMONDVILLE, TX 45.0°F 45.0°F 1970 92

Here are 163 new or tied lowest high temperature records for October 29th, 2008

Here is a direct link to NOAA’s NCDC data for these records:

29 October 2008 Record
New (120)
Tied (48)
Previous
Record
Previous
Year
Period
of
Record
BRIDGEPORT 5 NW, AL 49.0 55.0 2001 44
SAND MT SUBSTN, AL 50.0 50.0 1952 59
MOULTON 2, AL 51.0 53.0 1973 49
TALLADEGA, AL 52.0 55.0 1973 107
CLANTON, AL 52.0 53.0 1910 110
SYLACAUGA 4 NE, AL 52.0 56.0 1997 46
BELLE MINA 2 N, AL 52.0 53.0 1952 57
VERNON, AL 54.0 55.0 1973 49
HAMILTON 3 S, AL 54.0 58.0 1968 45
GREENVILLE, AL 55.0 59.0 2001 78
JASPER, AL 55.0 55.0 1976 45
EVERGREEN, AL 55.0 57.0 1910 83
THORSBY EXP STN, AL 55.0 57.0 1997 50
BREWTON 3 SSE, AL 57.0 60.0 1958 79
CODEN, AL 59.0 59.0 1997 44
MARSHALL, AR 52.0 52.0 1969 54
FT BRAGG 5 N, CA 53.0 53.0 1953 72
FERNANDINA BEACH, FL 64.0 64.0 2001 109
ST PETERSBURG, FL (KSPG) 64.0 64.0 1952 96
GAINESVILLE RGNL AP, FL (KGNV) 64.0 64.0 2007 45
ST AUGUSTINE LH, FL 66.0 69.0 1987 34
KEY WEST INTL AP, FL (KEYW) 71.0 74.0 1987 56
FT LAUDERDALE INTL AP, FL (KFLL) 76.0 78.0 1989 35
ALPHARETTA 4 SSW, GA 49.0 53.0 1959 41
GAINESVILLE, GA 49.0 49.0 1910 103
ALLATOONA DAM 2, GA 50.0 53.0 1953 43
DALLAS 7 NE, GA 51.0 55.0 1976 50
ELBERTON 2 N, GA 51.0 51.0 1910 68
HARTWELL, GA 51.0 53.0 2001 94
TOCCOA, GA 51.0 51.0 1910 105
SILOAM 3 N, GA 56.0 56.0 2003 46
MAUNA LOA SLOPE OBS 39, HI 48.0 48.0 1976 49
NORMAL 4NE, IL 45.0 45.0 1988 31
PERU, IL 46.0 46.0 1988 45
COLUMBIA CITY, IN 39.0 41.0 1968 44
PORTLAND 1 SW, IN 41.0 43.0 1976 30
BLUFFTON 1 N, IN 42.0 44.0 1980 36
NEW CASTLE 4 SSE, IN 42.0 42.0 1968 58
BAXTER, KY 44.0 49.0 1968 56
WEST LIBERTY 3NW, KY 45.0 46.0 1973 56
MT VERNON, KY 45.0 48.0 1980 49
JAMESTOWN WWTP, KY 47.0 48.0 1976 31
MONTICELLO 3 NE, KY 47.0 47.0 1980 52
PAINTSVILLE 1 E, KY 47.0 51.0 2003 30
BRADFORDSVILLE, KY 48.0 48.0 1968 44
BARBOURVILLE, KY 48.0 50.0 1953 54
FROSTBURG 2, MD 37.0 39.0 1976 36
SAVAGE RVR DAM, MD 39.0 41.0 1976 56
EMMITSBURG 2 SE, MD 48.0 48.0 1965 50
CUMBERLAND 2, MD 50.0 50.0 2002 32
IONIA 2 SSW, MI 39.0 42.0 1988 69
LAPEER WWTP, MI 40.0 41.0 2006 56
GROSSE POINTE FARMS, MI 44.0 44.0 2006 57
SHELBINA, MO 48.0 48.0 1980 62
WELDON SPRING NWS, MO 50.0 50.0 1976 42
PORTAGEVILLE, MO 50.0 50.0 1976 41
RIPLEY, MS 50.0 54.0 1968 66
INDEPENDENCE 1 W, MS 51.0 52.0 1976 50
IUKA, MS 51.0 57.0 1997 30
PONTOTOC EXP STN, MS 51.0 54.0 1968 55
HICKORY FLAT, MS 52.0 52.0 1980 51
WINONA 5 E, MS 52.0 54.0 1997 54
HOLLY SPRINGS 4 N, MS 52.0 54.0 1976 46
EUPORA 2 E, MS 53.0 55.0 1976 76
GRENADA 5 NNE, MS 53.0 56.0 1997 53
CALHOUN CITY, MS 53.0 59.0 1980 52
BELZONI, MS 55.0 57.0 1976 76
NORTH WILKESBORO, NC 48.0 52.0 1976 53
YADKINVILLE 6 E, NC 48.0 51.0 2003 50
STATESVILLE 2 NNE, NC 50.0 52.0 2003 101
ALBEMARLE, NC 53.0 55.0 2003 96
CLAYTON WTP, NC 55.0 55.0 2001 47
LEWISTON, NC 55.0 56.0 2005 52
ELIZABETHTOWN 3 SW, NC 56.0 60.0 2005 47
CAPE HATTERAS MITCHELL, NC (KHSE) 56.0 56.0 1976 51
FLEMINGTON 5 NNW, NJ 42.0 45.0 1976 110
NEW BRUNSWICK 3 SE, NJ 43.0 44.0 1976 40
DELHI 2 SE, NY 33.0 35.0 1952 75
BINGHAMTON WSO AP, NY (KBGM) 33.0 33.0 1952 60
WARSAW 6 SW, NY 35.0 35.0 1965 53
BAINBRIDGE 2 E, NY 35.0 39.0 1939 56
NORWICH, NY 36.0 37.0 1925 99
WATERTOWN AP, NY (KART) 37.0 39.0 1962 59
ELMIRA, NY 38.0 38.0 1928 112
PORT JERVIS, NY 40.0 40.0 1952 113
YORKTOWN HTS 1 W, NY 40.0 43.0 1976 43
WEST POINT, NY 42.0 42.0 1952 108
CADIZ, OH 39.0 41.0 1910 102
COSHOCTON AG RSCH STN, OH 40.0 42.0 1980 51
STEUBENVILLE, OH 40.0 41.0 1952 66
NEWARK WTR WKS, OH 42.0 42.0 1952 73
HANNIBAL L&D, OH 42.0 43.0 1976 33
NAPOLEON, OH 42.0 46.0 1980 39
NEW LEXINGTON 2 NW, OH 43.0 43.0 1952 66
WASHINGTON COURT HOUSE, OH 44.0 45.0 1968 81
BRADFORD RGNL AP, PA (KBFD) 31.0 35.0 2002 51
PLEASANT MT 1 W, PA 33.0 35.0 1959 55
DUBOIS FAA AP, PA (KDUJ) 34.0 38.0 1968 41
FRANCIS E WALTER DAM, PA 35.0 39.0 1976 41
WELLSBORO 4 SW, PA 36.0 37.0 1980 74
HAWLEY 1 E, PA 36.0 44.0 1997 82
CHALK HILL 2 ENE, PA 37.0 43.0 1990 31
MATAMORAS, PA 37.0 45.0 1965 42
TOWANDA 1 S, PA 38.0 39.0 1925 114
CONFLUENCE 1 SW DAM, PA 39.0 40.0 1957 62
TIONESTA 2 SE LAKE, PA 40.0 40.0 2001 65
WAYNESBURG 1 E, PA 41.0 44.0 1976 47
STEVENSON DAM, PA 42.0 43.0 2001 39
HAMBURG, PA 43.0 43.0 1907 67
WEST CHESTER 2 NW, PA 44.0 44.0 1976 103
LEWISTOWN, PA 46.0 47.0 1997 66
LONG CREEK, SC 49.0 52.0 1952 54
CHESTER 1 NW, SC 51.0 52.0 1959 76
PICKENS, SC 52.0 54.0 1952 57
SUMTER, SC 54.0 58.0 2001 81
CALHOUN FALLS, SC 54.0 55.0 1925 90
MANNING, SC 56.0 58.0 2001 35
BAMBERG, SC 56.0 57.0 1959 56
ANDREWS, SC 58.0 58.0 2001 37
ALLARDT, TN 43.0 44.0 1968 78
MONTEAGLE, TN 44.0 45.0 1952 68
TAZEWELL, TN 46.0 50.0 1976 42
LIVINGSTON RADIO WLIV, TN 48.0 50.0 1973 43
NEAPOLIS EXP STN, TN 49.0 52.0 1976 31
PORTLAND SEWAGE PLT, TN 50.0 51.0 1976 52
COVINGTON 3 SW, TN 50.0 51.0 1976 109
LINDEN WTP, TN 50.0 53.0 1976 45
SMITHVILLE 2 SE, TN 51.0 54.0 1976 36
SELMER, TN 51.0 54.0 1976 50
PULASKI WWTP, TN 51.0 57.0 2001 50
LEXINGTON, TN 51.0 51.0 1968 41
RIPLEY, TN 51.0 53.0 2002 43
MARTIN U OF T BRANCH E, TN 52.0 52.0 1976 72
CHEATHAM L&D, TN 52.0 54.0 1976 35
BROWNSVILLE, TN 52.0 52.0 1973 101
ATHENS, TN 52.0 52.0 1976 46
WYTHEVILLE 1 S, VA 39.0 41.0 1893 86
ABINGDON 3 S, VA 40.0 52.0 2006 36
BLACKSBURG NWSO, VA 40.0 46.0 1976 54
PULASKI 2 E, VA 40.0 43.0 1968 53
SALTVILLE 1N, VA 40.0 50.0 1968 49
GRUNDY, VA 42.0 47.0 1968 44
STAFFORDSVILLE 3 ENE, VA 42.0 48.0 2001 37
LURAY 5 E, VA 46.0 46.0 1976 66
STERLING RCS, VA 50.0 51.0 2002 31
WEST ALLIS, WI 43.0 44.0 1954 46
SNOWSHOE, WV 24.0 29.0 2005 31
TERRA ALTA #1, WV 31.0 40.0 1967 43
BELINGTON, WV 35.0 41.0 1976 41
ROWLESBURG 1, WV 36.0 40.0 1976 66
SUMMERSVILLE LAKE, WV 37.0 43.0 1976 41
BUCKEYE, WV 37.0 42.0 1968 46
FAIRMONT, WV 39.0 43.0 1952 102
ELKINS RANDOLPH CY AP, WV (KEKN) 39.0 39.0 1952 82
WESTON, WV 39.0 39.0 1925 106
CLARKSBURG 1, WV 39.0 44.0 1934 83
UPPER TRACT, WV 39.0 39.0 1910 38
OAK HILL, WV 40.0 45.0 1976 67
MORGANTOWN L&D, WV 40.0 42.0 1980 62
WEST UNION 2, WV 41.0 45.0 1976 35
MIDDLEBOURNE 3 ESE, WV 41.0 48.0 1980 66
GASSAWAY, WV 41.0 47.0 1952 54
PINEVILLE, WV 42.0 48.0 1976 62
GRANTSVILLE 1 ESE, WV 42.0 48.0 1976 43
BLUESTONE LAKE, WV 42.0 46.0 1976 65
DUNLOW 1 SW, WV 44.0 47.0 1997 36
RIPLEY, WV 44.0 44.0 1988 61
PARKERSBURG, WV 44.0 44.0 1952 82

Here are the 63 snowfall records:

Direct link to NOAA’s NCDC data for snowfall records

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29 October 2008 Record
New (63)
Tied (0)
Previous
Record
Previous
Year
Period
of
Record
ASHFIELD, MA 1.5 in 0.0 in 2007 30
EAST BRIMFIELD LAKE, MA 0.1 in 0.0 in 2007 46
MC HENRY 2 NW, MD 9.0 in 2.0 in 2006 37
FROSTBURG 2, MD 3.4 in 0.7 in 2006 36
SANDUSKY, MI 0.5 in Trace 1925 99
MAPLE CITY 1E, MI 0.3 in Trace 1993 49
MARSHALL, NC 1.0 in 0.2 in 1910 109
GRANDFATHER MTN, NC 0.5 in Trace 1973 53
MT WASHINGTON, NH (KMWN) 10.1 in 9.5 in 2000 60
POTTERSVILLE 2 NNW, NJ 2.0 in 0.0 in 2007 40
NEW BRUNSWICK 3 SE, NJ 1.5 in 0.0 in 2007 40
FLEMINGTON 5 NNW, NJ 1.0 in 0.8 in 1965 110
HOOKER 12 NNW, NY 19.0 in 3.5 in 1968 97
STILLWATER RSVR, NY 13.0 in 2.0 in 1990 83
TUPPER LAKE SUNMOUNT, NY 13.0 in 2.0 in 1934 109
LOWVILLE, NY 9.0 in 3.0 in 1893 116
PISECO, NY 8.0 in 1.0 in 2006 65
HIGHMARKET, NY 5.2 in 3.0 in 1965 84
NEWCOMB, NY 4.8 in 1.0 in 1965 49
CANTON 4 SE, NY 4.5 in 1.5 in 1962 115
INDIAN LAKE 2SW, NY 3.0 in 1.5 in 2006 109
ROCK HILL 3 SW, NY 2.3 in 0.0 in 2007 45
FRIENDSHIP 7 SW, NY 2.0 in 1.3 in 2006 39
LOCKE 2 W, NY 2.0 in 0.0 in 2007 76
BINGHAMTON WSO AP, NY (KBGM) 0.6 in 0.4 in 1952 60
JAMESTOWN 4 ENE, NY 0.5 in 0.0 in 2007 48
YOUNGSTOWN WSO AP, OH (KYNG) 1.6 in 0.6 in 1952 74
CLEVELAND WSFO AP, OH (KCLE) 0.3 in Trace 2003 60
RIDGWAY, PA 6.0 in Trace 1987 115
MEYERSDALE 2 SSW, PA 3.0 in Trace 2006 45
DUNLO, PA 3.0 in 0.5 in 2006 60
SOMERSET, PA 2.8 in 1.4 in 2006 59
MAHANOY CITY 2 N, PA 2.1 in 0.0 in 2007 36
EBENSBURG SEWAGE PLT, PA 2.0 in 1.0 in 1965 44
KANE 1NNE, PA 2.0 in 1.0 in 1965 114
CONFLUENCE 1 SW DAM, PA 2.0 in Trace 1965 62
MERCER, PA 2.0 in Trace 1990 58
GLEN HAZEL 2 NE DAM, PA 2.0 in 1.5 in 2006 66
CHALK HILL 2 ENE, PA 1.2 in Trace 1987 31
BOSWELL, PA 1.0 in Trace 1965 48
PORT ALLEGANY, PA 1.0 in 0.5 in 2006 60
TIONESTA 2 SE LAKE, PA 0.8 in 0.5 in 1965 87
SLIPPERY ROCK 1 SSW, PA 0.7 in Trace 2006 59
FRANCIS E WALTER DAM, PA 0.7 in Trace 1990 45
PITTSBURGH WSCOM 2 AP, PA (KPIT) 0.6 in 0.4 in 1952 63
BUFFALO MILLS, PA 0.3 in Trace 1965 84
MATAMORAS, PA 0.3 in 0.0 in 2007 104
MT MANSFIELD, VT 12.0 in 4.0 in 2006 53
ROCHESTER, VT 2.5 in 1.0 in 2000 79
MORRISVILLE 4 SSW, VT 1.4 in Trace 2007 46
ESSEX JUNCTION 1 N, VT 1.2 in Trace 2000 36
NEWPORT, VT 1.2 in 1.1 in 2000 78
ST ALBANS RADIO, VT 1.0 in 0.3 in 1992 30
CORINTH, VT 1.0 in 0.0 in 2007 60
SNOWSHOE, WV 8.0 in 1.0 in 1995 33
BAYARD, WV 5.5 in 1.5 in 1952 106
TERRA ALTA #1, WV 5.0 in 1.5 in 2006 60
GLADY 1 N, WV 4.4 in Trace 2005 35
VALLEY HEAD, WV 3.2 in 2.0 in 1952 70
BELINGTON, WV 1.6 in Trace 1968 70
BARTOW 1 S, WV 0.5 in 0.1 in 2006 64
ROCK CAVE 2 NE, WV 0.5 in 0.0 in 2007 55
SUTTON LAKE, WV 0.1 in 0.0 in 2007 91
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98 thoughts on “NOAA: U.S. breaks or ties 115 cold and sets 63 new snowfall records

  1. I understand that NCDC has not only recorded 63 snowfall records and 115 lowest minimum temperature records but also 168 lowest maximum temperature records, all for Oct 29th.

  2. The colder it gets, the stronger the push for CO2 legislation to stop “climate change.”

    You can’t fight superstition with logic.

  3. The youngest record broken was 30 years. That would mean all previous cold records, were before 1978. That would be when the Great Pacific Climate shift occurred, and the PDO went into its warm phase.

    Now its gone into a cool phase.

    I hear the green spin machine firing up now. Should be up to 20,000 RPM by spring.

    If we have a spring.

  4. this writer thinks that a temperature record for a whole year is not that important. Why then all the cheering for these 1-day records?

    REPLY: Simple- because there seldom is a day like this when 115 record events occur. And becuase we know that the data used to detect the faint climate signal (0.7-0.9 C) may very well be swamped by microsite biases, city UHI, and artifacts of NOAA adjustments such as TOBS, FILNET, and SHAP, which all add a positive value to the data.

    The low temp records listed by NOAA are irrefutable, since almost all localized site biases are positive. The snowfall records are also irrefutable, since you can’t bias the existence of it.

    A lot of folks don’t like my reporting on these cold events, and to them I say “tough noogies”, the MSM more than makes up for it by trumpeting every heat wave as “more proof” of AGW induced cliamte change. Care to place a bet on whether this story is reported on by NYT, CBS, ABC etc? – Anthony

  5. Bob B

    You say that October temperatures globally are not that cold.
    This is true. But to a very large extend it seems to be related to warmer Siberia. Siberia was warmed when in August-september the HUGE whole in the polar ice occured and in not time led out a lot of heat from the upper layers of polar waters benieth. This has spread warmth in whole huge Russia and even down to china. But the whole in the polar ice is now closed. On practically all continent the prognoses for first half of november is rapidly cooling.

    And now starts La Nina

    Have patience and see the global november-december-january temperatures!

    Last year the same happened. Even though there was a La nina in sep-oct, the temperatures actually rose when there was a big whole in the polar ice. When it closed, temperatures fell like a rock down nov-dec-jan.

    Enjoy…

  6. Today on KGO 81 (San Francisco) Nancy Pelosi restated that she intends to forward her global warming initiatives early in an Obama administration. She especially hopes to have a filibuster-proof Senate to get it done without resistance. It is her goal to “save the planet.”

    I’m concerned that those in power will have more next year. They are so sold on AWG that they will give no quarter to anyone who even tries to present new data that contradicts their assumptions and proves wrong the models upon which they base their policies. That’s scary!

  7. Anthony,

    Is there a table somewhere of the annual total number of daily records set? IOW, what’s the history of record setting temps (both high and low)? This would say something about the likelihood of extremes happening over periods longer than a cold snap or heat wave.

    REPLY: Don’t know, but worth researching. – A

  8. WOW, they will need to do some serious tweaking and averaging this month.
    LOL

    CO2 taxes and Bottom up Economy, all apart of 2009

  9. Leif Svalgaard (11:03:31) :

    how many record highs and ties were there?

    REPLY: 25/13, which you can see here – Anthony

    Now I wonder what will be highlighted in NOAA’s monthly report for October.

  10. Anthony, you wrote in part, :…but there is an early start to winter this year, not only in the USA, but also in London,…”

    -Nitpick ON-
    That one always bugs me. The seasons start at the same time each year. It bothers me not one whit when someone says we’re getting winter, spring, or summer weather earlier or later.
    -Nitpick OFF-

    Carry on, Anthony. There’s a always a great and thought-provoking conversation going on here.

  11. A silent spring?

    (Which, no doubt, will be blamed on the reintroduction of DDT.)

    And I am wearing my DDT tshirt today … must be my fault.

  12. Of course you all realize this is anecdotal. Many of these stations may have comparable temps on either side of this date. In any case, rest assured that your politicians are working overtime to solve the Climate Change (AKA Global Warming) crisis and no matter how much cold and gloom or ice and snow occurs they will not be diverted from their appointed rounds of saving this great planet from the scourge of an unpredictable climate – no matter how much it costs!!!

  13. I find it interesting that all the temperatures are whole numbers(degrees F). Is that the level of resolution in the USHCN? Here in Canada, most daily temperature readings have 1/10ths of a degree Celcius “accuracy”.

  14. The only way outside of your science that readers can influence future political initiatives is to vote for Republicans.

  15. No mention of records on weather channel when I was watching it. I guess I can cross them off in the future, along with CBS, CNN, ABC, NBC and all the other communist networks.

  16. “”Bob B (11:12:21) :

    Steve, I would wait to see what the global temps are doing before you start to thinking this shows global cooling. So far as I see it Oct 08 is tracking warmer then Sept 08

    http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/

    But I still see the trend for cooling continuing””

    I download the ASU daily temps (from 3300ft) and keep a running monthly average and thus far Oct 08 is a tad under .1C below Oct 07 (there were 3-4 days with no readings for some reason). so the lower Troposphere is cooling and is cooler than the surface, something that runs counter to AGW theory.

  17. evanjones (12:15:31) :

    If we have a spring.

    A silent spring?

    (Which, no doubt, will be blamed on the reintroduction of DDT.)

    A silent spring along with a somewhat silent fall means a very long winter.
    As I recall those birds were a lot more important than people dying from lack of DDT.

  18. The way I see it, it no longer matters how many record lows are broken.
    These records are all falling on deaf ears. The political momentum is so strong to regulate CO2 that the coming Gorites and Obozos will surely try to impose their “rescue” plan on the industrial west.

    Can’t you hear them forging chains and shackles?

  19. “” John Schwartz (12:03:04) :

    Noticed this new article out from MIT scientists puzzled at methane increases which “don’t fit the model” (lol). Which, from what I understand, would/should have greatly increased warming–even as we see cold trend continue. “”

    CTRL/ALT/DEL/TILT !!

    Slight English grammar gibberish there; allow me to readjust according to the King’s English (technical term).

    ‘Noticed this new article out from MIT scientists puzzled at models which from what I understand, don’t fit the methane increases (lol) and predict greatly increased warming in the face of real experimental scientific observations, that the trend is to colder temperatures. ‘

    No charge for the service John, and thanks for the alert.

    George

  20. I am shocked that some professor claims that we will see global cooling for the next twenty years or so. Seems he says so here.

    Why haven’t they revoked his license or PhD or whatever?

  21. Hey Anthony,

    Have you noticed that your little red and orange lines on the 2008/2007 great icecapades graph show that in 2007, the meltback stopped two weeks later than this year, so winter kicked in two weeks earlier to get a good start on the big freeze.
    Also if one remembers back to the great rain soaking from the far north that hit the plains States back in the spring, and sent this year’s Iowa ethanol crop down the Mississippi to the gulf of Mexico; the Idaho farmers were saying that their Spring started two weeks late so they were two weeks late in planting, and were already counting their crop losses for the eyar, before they even got started.

    Some ominous premonitions for a global food shortage coming up soon to a place near you. History (and good science) shows that energy input = food ouput; world wide from the most primitive to the most sophisticated food production. Only two places on earth deviate significantly from the world food for energy straight line graph; in the sense of growing more food per energy input than the global norm. They are New Zealand, as the most productive agriculture on earth, and France. Both are somewhat due to fortuitous weather /climate; in the case of NZ being totally surrounded by temperature waterws of the Pacific, and Tasman Sea.

    When I came to USA from Aotearoa; the USA was importing about 200 agricultural scientists per year form NZ, and this on a total immigration quota of 100 persons per year; and with US citizen family members having front row seats (GI war bride effect). I got lucky and ended up on the British quota which was by far the largest (35,000 per year).

    So as the world cools; those pesky Arab/Persiams/Nicaraguans, might want to rethink their oil strategy and the idea of choking off the USA. We don’t get the oil; the world ends up without the food, and don’t look to Canada/Siberia/ Eurasia for more food with the snow line moving south.

    Hate to point out the obvious.

    So Anthony; enquiring minds want to know; when are you going to do the cross town drive perpendicular to lap one, to see what the UHI is across the airport /mainstreet route; since didn’t you say the Reno Owl box was in front of the blast shield at the end of the main runway, where the jet effluent could asphyxiate the owls in the box !?

    You’ve got our attention now.

    George

    REPLY: I’m planning a return visit to do a much more extensive test…patience. – Anthony

  22. Fred,

    “I find it interesting that all the temperatures are whole numbers(degrees F). Is that the level of resolution in the USHCN? Here in Canada, most daily temperature readings have 1/10ths of a degree Celcius “accuracy”.

    The METAR obs is encoded in tenths of a degree Celsius then converted to Fahrenheit for domestic consumption

  23. Just as the US markets have stopped an end of week sell-off crashing on them like a wave from around the world several times lately, so do I think the American polity will stop this carbon encumbering catastrophe in its globe girdling tracks. Palin is a skeptic, as witnessed by her mention early of ‘natural cycles’, and once she and McCain win, it won’t take more than a couple of heartbeats for the skeptical position to become administration policy. So, breathe easier. The worst is over.
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  24. Simon, interesting.

    If humans are to blame for warming, are we also to blame for cooling? Or is this a “heads I win and tails you lose” game.

  25. Easterbrook is predicting 30 years of cooling based on historic Pacific Decadal Oscilations (PDO). See:Global Cooling is Here! Evidence for Predicting Global Cooling for the Next Three Decades, By Professor Don Easterbrook, Western Washington University, Oct 30, 2008 ICECAP.us

    Cooling can cause critical reductions in food productivity, in the face of rising population. The “Little Ice Age” in Europe resulted in reduction in agricultural productivity resulting in massive increases in food prices. e.g. a tenfold increase in the price of wheat in Holland and the price of rye in Germany. See: The Little Ice Age in Europe, Scott A. Mandia.

    CO2 is a necessary “food” for plants. Grain productivity increased 50% from 1972 to 2001. See: Spatiotemporal patterns of cropland area and net primary production in the central United States estimated from USDA agricultural information, Jeffrey A. Hicke & David B. Lobell GEOPHYSICAL RESEARCH LETTERS, VOL. 31, L20502

    In Central U.S. Agricultural Productivity: 1972-2001, CO2Science notes: . . . . it would appear that if either of the twin evils of the climate-alarmist crowd had a negative impact on crop productivity – which is highly unlikely, considering Hicke and Lobell attribute some of the increase in NPP to a “more favorable climate” and that carbon dioxide is an effective aerial fertilizer that also increases plant water use efficiency – that negative impact was miniscule compared to the positive impacts of all of the other factors cited by Hicke and Lobell. Based on this experience, therefore, we may expect to see more of the same in the future, i.e., increased crop yields, even in the face of (and likely partly because of) continued increases in atmospheric CO2 concentrations and air temperatures.

    Carbon sequestration will likely reduce possible agricultural productivity. With rising population in the face of cooling climate, it will be critically important to INCREASE CO2 emissions to continue to increase grain productivity to avoid massive starvation.

    With the world approaching peaking of light oil, it is critical to provide alternative fuels as fast as possible. Carbon Sequestration would starve funds from providing alternative fuels and result in a major economic crash.
    Those mandating carbon sequestration will have on their heads the lives of millions of poor starving needlessly.

    The inadequacies of conventional global warming models are important to focus attention back on peaking oil and the critical need to develop alternative fuels and bring costs down so the developing world can afford to feed itself.

  26. The Temps in AK are less affected by UHI than others due to the rural nature of the sites. Survey sez?

  27. Anthony:

    REPLY: Simple- because there seldom is a day like this when 115 record events occur.

    Of how many stations?

    A quick count reveals these records were set in around 15 different states. How about the other 35?

    Ok – on a more serious note, weather and politics (a popular subject in another thread) I only discuss at the coffee machine.

    I found this an interesting remark:
    …we know that the data used to detect the faint climate signal (0.7-0.9 C) may very well be swamped by…

    The skeptics have told me a 1000 times that we’re coming out of the little ice age and we had the medieval warm period before that. Now how come that we can be sure that those events that happened centuries ago, but we can not know for sure what is happening right now, while we’re in the middle of it?

    How much climate signal do we need for it to be detectable?

  28. With the world approaching peaking of light oil, it is critical to provide alternative fuels as fast as possible.

    I think this is the same error made by the Limits to Growth crowd, and for the same reasons. We have been “approaching” peak oil since around 1859. (Or even before!) Call me when we get there.

    I recommend heavy oil. (tars, bitumens, etc., etc.) And it turns out that if you cook or steam shale you get nice, light oil as a result. We have trillions of barrels of reserves in shale.

    Peak oil: Peek and ye shall find.

    I agree with much of the rest of the post, however.

  29. It’s long been my view that numbers of new high/low (similar to stock metrics that track new highs versus new lows) is a (much) better metric of climate change than averages, because new record high/lows are less influenced (statistically) than averages by local and regional effects.

    My proposal is for a new metric is the number of new monthly highs versus new monthly lows (although daily high/lows would work just as well) as a rolling 12 month number. Ie, the metric would give the integer number of new highs versus new lows for x locations. For example -57 would mean 57 more new lows than new highs over the rolling count period.

    This would be a much more sensitive measure of short to medium term climate change than simple averages. And in particular it would clearly show when warming or cooling was accelerating or slowing over shortish periods (less than a year). It would also be a good ‘headline number’ to get peoples attention.

    I thought about doing this myself, but couldn’t do from the publically available Australian data.

    Others have mentioned this, but this is just one of a number of possible and better metrics than a simple daily average. Why we do not see these metrics is likely because they would not show (enough) warming or open up the question of when and how should we be seeing warming due to GHG; day versus night, summer versus winter, etc.

  30. On TWC Wednesday night, Heidi Klum, er I mean Cullen was speaking by satellite remote to an upstate NY Meteorologist about the 14″ snow. She said something to the effect “Now how does this relate to global warming?” The other Meteorologist said it was a “direct result” of global warming coming up over the mountains. I couldn’t believe what he said! I just had to laugh out loud. At least he won’t be black listed by Ms. Cullen.

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  32. Hummm,

    I wonder if the congress and the extremely green crowd can be taken to criminal court and tried for premeditated murder when people start dying because they can’t afford to heat their homes due to gv’t regulation?

    They’ve got motive ($$$) opportunity (they make or lobby for the laws) and method (taxes under another name, cap and trade – a real concealed weapon!).

  33. Speaking of the Weather Channel, I thought they were tracking record highs and lows in US for the year. I remember seeing that both on TV and on their web site, but when I saw this thread, I went over and couldn’t find it.

    Anyone seen that metric overthere lately?

    (I did, however, find rants against fructose and Halloween candy, and enough claims of nails in “denialist coffins” to corner the iron market.)

  34. Anthony…

    Some interesting facts you may want to follow up on with an article:

    – Since July, record low max temps have dominated record high max temps in the U.S. (I prefer to compare these instead of record lows vs. record highs because lows can be affected greatly by UHI in many places)

    – There have been more months this year where record low max’s outnumbers record high temps than vice versa. Last year, record max temps outnumbered record low highs almost EVERY month

    – Since March, record low max temps outnumber record high temps in the U.S. 8,649 to 6,224

    – Last year, the number of record high max’s in a month topped 2,000 seven different months (including over 6,000 in both March and August!). This year, it hasn’t happened once.

    REPLY: Whats the source of these numbers? – Anthony

  35. Philip_B: “My proposal is for a new metric is the number of new monthly highs versus new monthly lows (although daily high/lows would work just as well) as a rolling 12 month number.”

    I agree. I have never liked the averages. Too smooth. But, you must realize that record highs and lows are conditioned on the length of the record. In year 1 every daily temperature is a record, and in year 2 as well. In year 3 some daily readings fall between those of year 1 and 2, so some non-record days occur. And so on. As the years in the record book increase, the likelihood of a record setting day decrease.

    So I suggest using deciles instead, as in counting the daily highs and lows that fall in the top or bottom ten percent. That system would be significantly less (but not completely) dependent on the length of the record.

  36. After last winter’s brutal impact in many places, and the subsequent food shortages earlier this year, I believe we now have a glimpse of our future. Be brave. Hold on for dear life. Do not despair.

  37. One other point on food supply.

    There are business news stories about how farmers in many locations can’t get loans for seed etc for next year’s crop because of the financial crisis. In Russia for example, wheat production may be down as much as 50% next year.

    Mike Dubrasich, deciles are are a good idea, and there are many other metrics I could think of.

    See below for some very interesting time_of_day analyses of Australian temperature data.

    http://gustofhotair.blogspot.com/search/label/weatheranalysis

  38. Anthony mentioned in the top: “I find the -25 below in Alaska interesting, since it bested the old record by 4 degrees.”

    I’m more impressed by the south Florida records:
    Miami 6F colder, Ft Lauderdale 7F colder, and Key West 5F colder.

    In fact, the Key West figure astounds me about as much as it can without ever having been further south than Key Largo. Key West is surrounded by water and while it moderated the air temp by 5F (from 55 to 61), the old record was still smashed.

    Also….

    Can us peons in the peanut gallery format tables like you did at the top?

    REPLY: Sadly, the comments engine edits out most special HTML, sorry – Anthony

  39. I wouldn’t put a lot of credence in the NOAA climate records. I know that much of the data has been massaged, expunged, and manipulated. I have the daily records for Bangor, ME (KBGR) that go back to the end of 1926. NOAA is using an abbreviated version that starts in 1946 with some interruptions.

    Using their data, on Jan 25th, 2004 a new record low was recorded – 12F eclipsing the old record of -10 set in 1982. My records show the record low to be -14F set in 1948.
    Their records show that on July 14th, 2006 a high temp of 93F tied the old record set in 1952. My data show the record to be 99F set in 1995 ( I distinctly remember this day because it was the highest temperature recorded since 1975).

    There will be many high temp records set for Bangor since the records of the 1930’s and 40’s are no longer part of the official NOAA climatology.

    I know that Farmington, ME has also been adjusted and their record warm years in the 1930’s no longer exist.

    How much of the historic record is tainted is anyone’s guess. Hopefully my example is an exception to the rule.

  40. Philip, you sound like a farmer. It is exactly highs and lows that farmers track to determine shorter term climate/weather change. Crops are such good indicators of temps. So are birds, game animals, bats, and insect cycles. All are used to help farmers stay in business when weather is noisy. Under that noise, farmers seem able to detect trends. I know how they do it.

  41. In mid-October 2006 there was the arctic blast that gave the Buffalo area record snows of 2 feet.
    In April of 2007 we had that freeze that killed just about everything south of the Ohio River.
    Now we have this, freezes in Florida for the first time in October EVER recorded and all-time monthly low temperature record. The year after it SNOWED IN NOVEMBER in Florida for the first time ever, and the freeze in January that went right down to the Glades. Did I mention 2 feet of snow in New York?? This just two weeks after they got record early (and accumulating) snows out west.

    If the flavor of the generation climate catastrophe this go round was “The Ice Age Cometh” the media vultures would be circling in the hay fields, ready to attribute any weather event, or non-event, to global cooling, AGC. Hansen would have doctored temperature anomaly charts derived from his own program with encrypted algorithms that create cold bias and similar to his current practice; no one would be able to see them and he would tell us all how silly we are for not buying into end of the world Ice Ages soon-to-be-here mantra. The mile thick glaciers that would push the empire state building out to the Hudson Canyon. Warn us of ‘Climate refugees’ flooding southern international borders, falling sea-levels that would ruin all port towns and cities economies. Falls in sea-ice would be changing wind patterns but gains in ice would mean global cooling has taken effect. Record snowfall would be AGC, not global warming putting more moisture into the air in places where it snows. Icebergs reaching New Zealand would be Antarctica trying to claim adjacent land areas, rather than Antarctica melting into the sea. The only animals one would hear about would be penguins swimming north to mid-latitudes in an apparent attempt to spread beyond their habitat into new, cooler areas. We’d hear stories about Polar Bears in Iceland or seals in Canary Islands, not manatees in Long Island Sound or Cod off Greenland. Speaking of polar bears, it would be a well known fact that their numbers are increasing if the greens instead decided to push the Ice Age agenda, unlike that other twisted version of polar bears they have. The one of starving, drowning bears swimming in vain through Arctic waters. Funny how something that has supposedly never had to swim before can suddenly swim for hundred of miles. Seems like an instinctual behavior to me. Just as a bird builds a nest and a fox, a hole.

    Heat waves and droughts would come and go; little would be made of them. There’d be global cooling conferences, headed by Al Gore himself (only he’d have a nobel prize for alerting the world of the coming Ice Age), every month of the year; just as there’s now global warming conferences every month of the year. Every global cooling conference would be held in air conditioned room because every time they have one of these things, it’s 105°F outside; just as it snows during global warming conferences in London and Washington. 100°F heat for the first time in 30 years waves would strike the “Live Earth” global cooling concert in an ironic twist; the same way it snowed for the first time in 30 years in South Africa for that lame entertainment venue. There’s be cooling tax legislation proposed, same way carbon taxes are imposed. You know, you would have to pay extra to use the A/C because all that evil cold air would escape your house and get lose in the outdoors to make extra ice. You’d be told to unplug your freezer during times of non-essential use and open it sparingly.

    But a mere 30 years from now, global warming would return and we’d be told once again that global cooling was a myth and anything that doesn’t agree with global warming, such as an October snowstorm, is merely anecdotal.

  42. Pamela,
    Here in Kansas, I live near a wildlife refuge. The Canadian Geese that usually stay here thru the winter (and leave their droppings all over the place) have disappeared. I am not sad that they are gone (for the first time since I have lived here for 10 years). But, I am curious why they left. Do they know something I don’t? Perhaps they read the Farmer’s Almanac.

  43. Pamela – Minor point, but they are Canada Geese, not Canadian Geese (unless they have passports or birth certificates…). They may not be where you are, but they are here on Vancouver Island in hundreds. And to keep closer to topic, I have been tracking forecasts versus actual temperatures since the start of the year and the meteorologists have been too high between 2-5C consistently. I suspect they are basing their forecasts on the last 30 years, not what is actually happening with the PDO shift. I just bought a home met station so I should be able to keep things a bit more scientifically in future – but it sure is cold!

  44. Hello guys !

    Yes, as you might have guessed, I’m going to say once again that global temperatures are getting higher and higher since the end of la nina. Once again, while it was cold in some place in the US or whatever, the global temperature for 10/29 is the highest ever measured. Following AMSU, September will be the 3rd warmest ever – the first 2 being 2006 and 2007, respectively. Now you can still “believe” that sep08 being “only” the 3rd we have a proof of cooling, but this would mean turning science upside down.

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  46. Flanagan-

    You are mistaken. The daily AMSU readings are not accurate, as they have to be adjusted due to satellite drift. Not only was October 29 likely NOT the warmest ever measured, but September was only the 8th warmest in the UAH record, not the 3rd warmest. And it was also cooler than September 2007, 2006, 2005, 2003, 2002…most of the years this decade.

  47. Flanagan (01:35:33) Now if we were warming, September would be first warmest, not third warmest. This data, in fact, shows we are cooling. Sure, it’s not much of a trend over the last few years, but it’s longer than your trend, over the last few months.

    See NOAA’s CFS ensemble graph for projections of a deepening La Nina over the next 8 months. That’s going to produce a few N’ths warmest months where N is greater than one, demonstrating cooling.
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  48. Smokey (09:49:45) Double check those graphs, please. The scale is different, but they agree on the 300mb and 700mb lines which are the only two on both graphs. I don’t believe Flanagan has manipulated the graph, but they both refute his point, that relative humidity has not dropped.
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  49. If a “spike” were a trend, the the DOW should either be 100 or 100,000.

    A “spike” is just a “spike”. And Cap and Trade will not reduce emissions – it just means we pay more for the appearance of reducing emissions.

    Al Gore wants to be your CO2 Banker!

  50. Kim (12:45:27) Hi, Kim and welcome. I’m grateful you capitalize your name and don’t double underline your comments. Al is busy lining up more anonymous and internet donors to finance his $300,000,000 propaganda campaign that nobody wants to claim they’ve helped finance. Man, if the point of it is to save the world, why wouldn’t people want to be identified with it? That they hide tells me there is something to be ashamed of. Now, what might that be?
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  51. Pieter, merging policy with grabs for personal wealth are the Nancy Pelosi way.

    Remember when she was all about “saving” Pier 39. Upgrading the structures there (with taxpayer money) was going to be tantamount to drawing business development and bringing more consumer dollars to Fisherman’s Wharf she said. Then we found out her husband owned the structures.

    Pelosi’s era is on a collision course to disaster. First of all she is facing Cindy Sheehan in an election this year. Sheehan is interesting in that she is a carbon copy of Pelosi politics-wise, yet carries none of the politico stigma that Pelosi deservedly carries. Prepare to be surprised by how close this race ends up being. But a Tuesday Victory notwithstanding, be prepared to see Pelosi’s numerous and highly visible conflicts of interest lead to a premature and highly embarassing departure from office within 2 years.

    So far the failure of CC policies has been her saving grace. She is so deeply involved and invested in multiple subsidy-grabbing business ventures, that having a more favorable environment for her meddling will only bring about her political suicide faster.

    Nancy Pelosi is the walking talking poster child embodiment of government corruption and conflicts of interest. I wonder how she’s spinning the early arrival of our winter weather and bare trees in October. Who knew we would live up to our “Golden State” moniker because all the tree leaves are orange and yellow right on the heels of summer.

    Even as Pelosi touts the grave threat of Global Warming

  52. Maybe a short explanation about the recent cold in Alaska would be in order.

    Like the heavy clould cover that contributed to the cold temps was the result of more moisture in the atmosphere, due to more water in the oceans, due to more glaciers melting.

    Would that add to the discussion?

    And how about an explanation of how a hurricane, Ike, managed to make landfall in Texas, smash Galveston, then continue on thru Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvannia and hit New York with enough power to knock out power to over 100,000 New Yorkers.

    Anymore WINTER tornados expected to hit the Midwest again, this coming January, like January 2008?

    Snow one day, tornados the next, what’s next?

    Yeehwaww, baby.

  53. You’re right, kim, they were different graphs saying the same thing. Thanks for pointing that out. And I must express my appreciation to Flanagan for [probably inadvertently] providing a link to another excellent site that questions AGW/globaloney.

  54. From icecap.us, it looks like Tibet had some unusual snow too:

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/10/31/tibet.snowstorm/ doesn’t seem
    to say all this:

    At least seven people have been found dead after ”the worst snowstorm on record in Tibet,” China’s state-run news agency reported Friday. About 1,350 people were rescued in Lhunze County—another 300 were trapped—after nearly five feet (1.5 meters) of snow blanketed much of Tibet this week. The storm caused buildings to collapse, blocked roads and killed about 144,000 head of cattle, the state-run China Daily newspaper reported. The seven people who died either froze to death or were killed as a result of collapsing buildings, and one person is still missing, China Daily said. The BBC added: Heavy snowstorms have hit eastern Tibet over the last few days, worsening the situation for survivors of the earthquake earlier this month. Temperatures plummeted as snow started falling on Sunday.

    At least two people are reported to have died and many more are missing. Snowfalls have blocked roads, caused avalanches and led to widespread power cuts. Thousands of people have been living in tents or temporary shelters since the earthquake on 6th October. Relief materials including food and blankets are flooding into the area. Heavy snowstorms are rare for this part of Tibet in October, and temperatures are unseasonably cold. In Lhasa, the regional capital, the average maximum temperature in October is 17C (63F), but yesterday the high was just 8C (46F). The wet season for Tibet is generally March to September, so should be soon coming to an end.

  55. Hello…GLOBAL warming, not United States warming. If you actually read the IPCC report http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/syr/ar4_syr.pdf you will find that the models/data (page 32, for example) indicate that some areas have become colder, some warmer…what matters is the mean change as well as where it is happening.

    In any event, none of this addresses the much more straightforward problem of ocean acidification. Increase atmospheric CO2->increase ocean CO2->decrease ocean pH->change calcite saturation state->alter dynamics of ocean ecosystem, beginning with the primary producers (i.e. plankton).

  56. Well, global temperatures have been trending down slightly since 1998 (or 2001 if you want to skip the 1998-2000 El Nino/La Nina). They’ve been down sharpish for the last year and a half. CO2 has increased significantly. And the AquaSat is making a monkey out of positive feedback theory.

    Kit ‘n’ Mike (and the Rev) are showing how the 20th Century temperature rise (esp. from 1980 – 2002) has been exaggerated by a factor of two.

    All this comes in after IPCC AR4, which is giving the phrase “SO last year” new life.

    So I think we need to do a wee bit more study before we rush in and starve a few million poor . . .

  57. Would that add to the discussion?

    Well, it would bring up the subject of homeostasis. But that is not a discussion that favors the AGW side of the argument. Best avoid.

    And how about an explanation of how a hurricane, Ike, managed to make landfall in Texas, smash Galveston, then continue on thru Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, Pennsylvannia and hit New York with enough power to knock out power to over 100,000 New Yorkers.

    Well, that might bring up the embarrassing fact that Accumulated Cyclone Energy (as well as frequency and severity of storms) has been on the downtrend for the last thirty years. Better skip a bit, Brother.

    Anymore WINTER tornados expected to hit the Midwest again, this coming January, like January 2008?

    Well, that was due to record cold air resulting from the PDO reversal. So, Ix-nay on the Ornados-tay.

  58. Tom-

    But the U.S. has always reflected “global” warming, at least in the records we have. U.S. temperature trends closely follow global temperature trends, for the most part. After all, the U.S. is a very large country with many, many weather stations. Most of the warmest/coolest U.S. years are also among the warmest/coolest years globally. Therefore, the fact that 2008 has been so remarkably cooler than recent years in the U.S. should not be dismissed as insignificant.

  59. Tom (20:05:55) Your ocean acidification question has been exaggerated drastically, and seems to be the fallback position from which to demonize CO2 once global warming started to turn into global cooling. Increased CO2 in the oceans will act just as increased CO2 does in the atmosphere, as a fertilizer for plants, and the increased biomass will simply accelerate the biological processes in the oceans which ultimately lead to virtually permanent sequestration of carbon as carbonates and hydrocarbons. So relax; the sky is neither falling, nor are the oceans boiling. Hippogryphs, now, those you must watch out for.
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  60. Besides, carbonic acid is about the weakest acid going (as any aquarium owner worth his salt knows).

  61. ej (13:24:14) Tom fails to realize that we all carry a tiny ocean around inside of us. Are we all huffing and puffing trying to compensate for the acidification of that little ocean caused by a 40% rise in CO2? Heck, no. The acidification scaremongers are grasping at straws while the earth cools. Why the heck can’t they assume the mantle of scientists, and question their assumptions?
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  62. One of my former university classmates is now a lead editorial writer for a strongly pro-AGW national newspaper. For years I have sent him scientific information to challenge his fervently pro-AGW beliefs, but to no avail.

    I’ve given up trying, so I just sent him this final note:

    “Time to leave the good ship AGW Titanic?”

    Seriously, I don’t think there will be forgiveness for those who promulgated this AGW fraud, especially if future cooling is severe.

    The poor are already going hungry due to a doubling of corn prices, driven by the absurd use of corn ethanol for motor fuel.

    Wind power is ineffective, because it requires almost 100% conventional back-up, and causes serious upsets in the power grid.

    Enough of this AGW nonsense – times are tough enough without Obama further damaging the ailing US economy by declaring CO2 a dangerous pollutant. How dumb can you get? And McCain is not much better.

    My poor, dear America! What is to become of you?

  63. Climate Science: Is It Currently Designed To Answer Questions?

    http://ecoworld.com/features/2008/10/30/climate-science-is-it-currently-designed-to-answer-questions/

    Excerpt:

    What historians will definitely wonder about in future centuries is how deeply flawed logic, obscured by shrewd and unrelenting propaganda, actually enabled a coalition of powerful special interests to convince nearly everyone in the world that CO2 from human industry was a dangerous, planet-destroying toxin. It will be remembered as the greatest mass delusion in the history of the world – that CO2, the life of plants, was considered for a time to be a deadly poison. – Richard S. Lindzen

  64. I remember the weekend of October 22, 2006, as being an extremely warm weekend with many high temperature records being set. Does anyone know the number of high records set? — it would be interesting to compare that number to the 115 records set around October 29, 2008.

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  67. G’day All!

    I am more than intrigued by this discussion regarding record temperatures either way, i.e warmest -coolest etc occurring in the U.S. and elsewhere. I live at
    175 degrees E, 40 degrees S. The west coast of the lower North Island, New Zealand. Compared to lat 40 north there is very little land at 40 Sth. Despite this fact and the fact that we are an island in a vast oceanic environment, we also reflect the ongoing cooling trend of planet Earth.

    In my 51 years of existence I have from an early age, possibly four years old, held a fascination as to why the weather, and therefore climate patterns, change over short term periods, and why there is such an inconsistency in the patterns over the short period. We all like a little consistency in our lives, even if it is just to make a decision about when to take a holiday to get the best weather prospects.

    My interest in the weather & climate became heightened at the age of 16 when I decided to become active in amateur astronomy. I was equally intrigued soon after to find that astronomers, not climatologists, meteorologists and geographers ( the latter day scientists), held strong views and seemed to be leading the discussion on historical and current global climate trends, based mainly on the orbital elements of the earth ( long term effects) and solar activity, sunspots and associated phenomemna (short term effects.)

    The hottest ever temperature recorded for anywhere in New Zealand full stop was in February 1973. This has never been surpassed! If we are to believe the AGW (with the emphasis on the G) proponents, New Zealand should not be an exception to the warming trend. Therefore the 1973 record should have been broken by now!

    Some speak of retreating galciers, and we have many of those. New Zealand also has two significant advancing glaciers on the lower west coast of the South Island. Franz Josef & Fox glaciers are the largest westward advancing glaciers in the Southern Alps, and have been bucking the trend of shrinking since the mid 1980’s. Photographic evidence that I as a casual holiday maker have recorded, shows a dramatic advance of both of these glaciers. AGW spokes-people site this pair of galaciers as the exception that proves the rule. I agree – except that the rule I refer to is the rule that states that world wide galaciers have been retreating since the late 1800’s (circa 1880). Both Fox & FJ were doing this until the mid ’80’s!

    Glaciers like Fox & FJ require heavy & steady rainfall to fall as snow to add weight to their Neves ( the top plateau of a glacier). This extra weight in turn provides the push that extends the length of the glacier down the valley & out into the plain below.

    In the past five years the major weather events in New Zealand have all been in the form of major winter events. July 2003, snow falls on the Manawatu plains (where I live) for the first time since 1977. August 2004, The snow is so heavy in the Pohangina Valley (northern Manawatu) that limbs break off scores of trees that are several hundred years old! Modern farm buildings have their rooves collapse due to people sucumbing to the practice of flattening the roof pitch through complacency!

    June 2006, The east coast of the South Island receives their heaviest snowfall since the early 1930’s. Individual farms are isolated for several weeks without power. To their credit, the “Mainlanders,” ( according to South Islanders, their Island is the “Main Land,” while us North Islanders live on “Pig Island!) handled the situation extremely well. Good pioneering stock which could prove handy over the coming decades!

    November 2006, flotillas of ice bergs off the east coast of the South Island, as far north as Christchurch ( 43 degrees south). Some brave souls claimed that this was a sign of global warming, i.e. the melting of the Antarctic ice sheets. Commonsense sggested that this was a sign of the Antarctic expanding under colder conditions. Drop an ice cube in warm water and see how long it lasts compared with an ice cube in cool water. I rest my case.

    2008! What an interesting year. The major La Nina event that started just over a year ago gave us a ‘green drought!’ Two weeks of fine weather, two days of rain, three weeks of dry weather, two days of rain. This sequence went on from November 2007, to this year’s winter solstice (June 22nd). Dry periods long enough to cause soil moisture deficit, but enough rain to stave off true drought. Then the day after the solstice the rain returned with a vengence. By the end of October we had exceeded the normal total rainfall for the year. Since the spring equinox one could have been forgiven for thinking that the hemispheres had swapped and it was we (the southern hemisphere) that were heading into winter, and not the other way round.

    August 2008, in the Tararua Ranges, a dividing range to the south of me (5,000 ft/1500m) avalanches occurred ther for the first time since 1929. Areas where snow drifts are normally 1m thick at worst, have been consistently 3m thick and lead to avalanches.

    In Doubtful Sound, a part of Fjiordland in the SW corner of the South Island, people are recording surface ice where none has been known for over 25 years.

    In the first week of November 2008, Invercargill, at 47 degrees south – one of the most southerly cities in the world, experinced a November snowfall for the first time since 1978.

    All of this is anecdotal eveidence for sure, but my point is what is happening in parts of the U.S. is not happening in isolation. I have visited the U.S. in 1991. Then as now the rest of the world doesn’t exist according to your media. Your country is so large it is easy to see where that comes from, even if you don’t agree with it.

    There is a groundswell of lay scepticism rising against the AGW protagonasts, but the groundswell needs direction. The so called ‘ordinary Joe’ knows the difference between hot & cold, and won’t be held in contempt by the arrogant scientist for too much longerwithout reacting. Many of those ‘scientists’need to remember where the money really comes from.

    So do politicians. It is our turn to vote for a new government today. The outcome of our election may not be as earth-shattering as the U.S. one earlier this week, But like Fox & FJ it could be indicative.

    Rap up & keep warm!

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  69. In the last two decades we have seen an overall trend of our planet warming up. the 90’s produced some of the hottest years globally we have seen since we’ve been recording temps. We have also seen a trend of extremes in weather, extremely active and dangerous hurricane seasons, and hot and cold records to the extreme. The overall consensus in the scientific community is that yes the planet is warming up as a direct result of human activities. Regardless of what you believe or choose not to believe, our vehicles and energy needs create pollution. Lots and lots of pollution. We are destroying the air we breath and poising the water we drink. Who in L.A. does not have lesions in their lungs do to pollution? Global warming aside, any effort to reduce the rate at which we are poisoning ourselves should be looked at as a good thing. There is no one out there that can argue that running a petroleum vehicle is good for our air quality. It’s really irrelevant how you feel about global warming. We are poisoning our planet and need to take steps towards a cleaner society. Only a fool would argue against that.

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