Foreword: I had originally planned to post a story on this, but Steven Goddard of the UK Register sends word that he has already done a comparison. It mirrors much of what I would have written. There is a clear discrepancy between the two data sources. What is unclear is the cause. Is it differing measurement and tabulation methods? Or, is it some post measurement adjustment being applied. With a 30 percent difference, it would seem that the public would have difficulty determining which dataset is the truly representative one.
UPDATE: The questions have been answered, see correction below – Anthony
Arctic ice refuses to melt as ordered
Published Friday 15th August 2008 10:02 GMT – source story is here
Just a few weeks ago, predictions of Arctic ice collapse were buzzing all over the internet. Some scientists were predicting that the “North Pole may be ice-free for first time this summer”. Others predicted that the entire “polar ice cap would disappear this summer”.
The Arctic melt season is nearly done for this year. The sun is now very low above the horizon and will set for the winter at the North Pole in five weeks. And none of these dire predictions have come to pass. Yet there is, however, something odd going on with the ice data.
The National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) in Boulder, Colorado released an alarming graph on August 11, showing that Arctic ice was rapidly disappearing, back towards last year’s record minimum. Their data shows Arctic sea ice extent only 10 per cent greater than this date in 2007, and the second lowest on record. Here’s a smaller version of the graph:
The National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC)’s troublesome ice graphThe problem is that this graph does not appear to be correct. Other data sources show Arctic ice having made a nice recovery this summer. NASA Marshall Space Flight Center data shows 2008 ice nearly identical to 2002, 2005 and 2006. Maps of Arctic ice extent are readily available from several sources, including the University of Illinois, which keeps a daily archive for the last 30 years. A comparison of these maps (derived from NSIDC data) below shows that Arctic ice extent was 30 per cent greater on August 11, 2008 than it was on the August 12, 2007. (2008 is a leap year, so the dates are offset by one.)
Ice at the Arctic: 2007 and 2008 snapshotsThe video below highlights the differences between those two dates. As you can see, ice has grown in nearly every direction since last summer – with a large increase in the area north of Siberia. Also note that the area around the Northwest Passage (west of Greenland) has seen a significant increase in ice. Some of the islands in the Canadian Archipelago are surrounded by more ice than they were during the summer of 1980.
The 30 per cent increase was calculated by counting pixels which contain colors representing ice. This is a conservative calculation, because of the map projection used. As the ice expands away from the pole, each new pixel represents a larger area – so the net effect is that the calculated 30 per cent increase is actually on the low side.
So how did NSIDC calculate a 10 per cent increase over 2007? Their graph appears to disagree with the maps by a factor of three (10 per cent vs. 30 per cent) – hardly a trivial discrepancy.
What melts the Arctic?
The Arctic did not experience the meltdowns forecast by NSIDC and the Norwegian Polar Year Secretariat. It didn’t even come close. Additionally, some current graphs and press releases from NSIDC seem less than conservative. There appears to be a consistent pattern of overstatement related to Arctic ice loss.
We know that Arctic summer ice extent is largely determined by variable oceanic and atmospheric currents such as the Arctic Oscillation. NASA claimed last summer that “not all the large changes seen in Arctic climate in recent years are a result of long-term trends associated with global warming”. The media tendency to knee-jerkingly blame everything on “global warming” makes for an easy story – but it is not based on solid science. ®
Bootnote
And what of the Antarctic? Down south, ice extent is well ahead of the recent average. Why isn’t NSIDC making similarly high-profile press releases about the increase in Antarctic ice over the last 30 years?
The author, Steven Goddard, is not affiliated directly or indirectly with any energy industry, nor does he have any current affiliation with any university.
NOTE OF CORRECTION FROM STEVEN GODDARD:
The senior editor at the Register has added a footnote to the article with
excerpts from Dr. Meier’s letter, and a short explanation of why my analysis
was incorrect.
To expound further – after a lot of examination of UIUC maps, I discovered
that while their 2008 maps appear golden, their 2007 maps do not agree well
with either NSIDC maps or NASA satellite imagery. NSIDC does not archive
their maps, but I found one map from August 19, 2007. I overlaid the NSIDC
map on top of the UIUC map from the same date. As you can see below, the
NSIDC ice map (white) shows considerably greater extent than the UIUC maps
(colors.) The UIUC ice sits back much further from the Canadian coast than
does the NSIDC ice. The land lines up perfectly between the maps, so it
appears possible that the UIUC ice is mapped using a different projection
than their land projection.
Click for larger image
Because the 2007 UIUC maps show less area, the increase in 2008 appears
greater. This is the crux of the problem. I am convinced that the NSIDC
data is correct and that my analysis is flawed. The technique is
theoretically correct, but the output is never better than the raw data.
Prior to writing the article, I had done quite a bit of comparison of UIUC
vs. NSIDC vs. NASA for this year. The hole in my methodology was not
performing the same analysis for last year. (The fact that NSIDC doesn’t
archive their maps of course contributed to the difficulty of that
exercise.)
My apologies to Dr. Meiers and Dr. Serreze, and NSIDC. Their analysis,
graphs and conclusions were all absolutely correct. Arctic ice is indeed
melting nearly as fast as last year, and this is indeed troubling.
– Steven Goddard
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The question Goddard asks in his Bootnote, “Why isn’t NSIDC making similarly high-profile press releases about the increase in Antarctic ice over the last 30 years?” is a serious, information seeking question if you don’t believe their is an agenda driving the NSIDC data. If you do, then you would probably take the question rhetorically and answer, “Well, duh…”
There is a good running Sea Ice discussion at CA: http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=3336
I also like this link: http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm
Andrew,
Can I suggest you modify your story. The link is to The Register – an internet type tabloid – not the Telegraph
REPLY: Thanks, I had been reading a story on the Telegraph this morning, and had “Telegraph on the brain”. Fixed.
But to show we all make similar mistakes from time to time, I’ll point out that my name is Anthony, not Andrew. 😉
There is another website /www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/en/home/seaice_extent.htm from Japan which gives ice coverages. This curve looks similar to NSIDC curve. However, for the last few days, the difference to the 2007 curve appears to be a bit larger.
Keep in mind that NSIDC gives an area with at least 15 % ‘sea ice’, while the http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/ website probably only shows areas of full ice coverage. Consequently, the UIUC ice area should be considerably smaller than the (presently) 6.07 million km2 of IJIS and a very similar number of NSIDC. Maybe, you could check this from your pixel data.
Why doesn’t the NSIDC have a similar graph showing sea ice in Antarctica? Oh, yeah, I forgot, there’s no panic down there about shrinking sea ice.
There are firsthand reports at http://awberrimilla.blogspot.com/ which is a blog about a sailboat trying to nagigate the NW passage. They’re right in the midst of the diciest part and dealing with new ice forming close to old ice dissapating.
A lot of the posts are really exchanges between crew and support folk. It takes a lot of reading between the lines to figure out what’s happening, but it’s a lot more interesting than comparing Arctic maps or trying to figure out the weather might be changing them.
The bias at NSIDC appears to be inexplicable. Perhaps they can only get the budget they desire by creating pseudo crises?
See detailed comparative graphs by
Aaron Wells’ Sea Ice Stretch Run #2 Comment 612
These look much closer to the Cyrosphere comparison above.
I remember that NSIDC ice graphs of a month or so ago showed the blue line almost exactly between the average line and the 2007 line. Now the blue line is touching the 2007 line in June! It looks like they “adjusted” it down. Does anyone have copies of older graphs to check this?
Oh, I just stumbled on another sailboat taking on the NW passage from the other direction. They’re in the same area as the Berri. Lotsa Polar Bears. Must be waiting for the ice to freeze the boats in place. 🙂
http://www.69nord.com/english/expe/logbook.html
The QuikScat satellite confirm the extent from the maps above:
http://www.ifremer.fr/cersat/ARCHIVE/images/psi/quikscat/25km/north/2007/QMO/20070812.GIF
http://www.ifremer.fr/cersat/ARCHIVE/images/psi/quikscat/25km/north/2008/QMO/20080811.GIF
Also note that the ice thickness seems to be better than last year; so if recovery speeds up compared to the slow recovery in oct-nov-dec last year, the ice will maybe be back to “normal” in 2009.
Btw, here is NSIDC curve for Antarctic:
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_timeseries.png
… and as mentioned; keep in mind the 15% limit.
Ah, El Reg’s Mr. Goddard! Who is he, one may ask, as a “Steven Goddard” doesn’t even exist on the interweb before April 2008.
Yet the Register chose him to continously enlighten us with his views on climate change without criticism. Is he perhaps having some connection to IT professional John Atkinson, who was allowed to post a similarly incoherent article on the Register? Is it just a coincidence that someone using the moniker “John A.” pops up regularly on the blog of Stephen McIntyre, who works in IT as well and is known for making powerful oil interests heard?
I am pretty certain that NSDIC retrospectively altered their graph for the period late July to early August. The original graph showed it tracking away from the 2007 position and then it was altered to showing it tracking towards it.
Has anybody got a copy of the original graph to show the alteration?
I have had problems in the past with NSIDC. I was emailing back and forth last February with an NSIDC expert on a technical item (the age of an in-situe formed ice shelf that ‘suddenly’ broke free, like they ever slowly break off, sheesh). I contended that it was a relevant problem of interest since if there was no ice there during the MWP and it formed during the LIA, what’s the problem.
Eventually the NSIDC expert sent me to RealClimate.org. Go figure. He and his lunchroom buddies have already imbibed in green fool-aide.
I’m glad to see that you use white to show the true color of ice at the artic .If you look at the accuweather site on global warming they have a post about the ice melt of course .I’m not sure what year their picture was supposed to be from but the thing that got me was the color of their ice .It is purple in color .I’ve never seen purple ice before .And the red on their map .What is that icey hot.
Sorry Anthony – blame that one on a senior moment
[snip ad-hom]
The rest… there seems to have been a sharp upward spike in the past few days in Antarctic ice, it looks like there may be another record in the south.
Mr. Conrad –
Regardless of who Goddard is or is not – can you refute the substance of his report? To say that he never existed before 2007 on the internet is absurd. Did you personally look through every Google hit?
Anthony, Is the raw data direct from the satellite available? It should be fairly straight forward to do the data processing, especially a pixel by pixel processing, and draw conclusions. It looks like the pictures that are displayed are just that.
I sure hope we don’t have another science group going green.
Mr Conrad,
Implying that anyone who writes articles that debunk global warming is funded by “powerful oil interests” is kind of silly. I believe the ratio of nutbar pro-warming funding to oil interest funding is 1000 to 1.
Al Gore himself has a 300 million budget for just this year to propagandize. (Admittedly most of that goes to fund the energy budget of his home and private jets and yacht).
Tens of thousands of scientists and journalists rely on AGW funding just to pay their salary. They are bought and paid for.
There is a link on Anthony’s site to the earlier graph you all are talking about.
http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/when-graphs-attack/
Joseph Conrad –
Interesting suggestion that Steven Goddard and John A. may be the same person. If true, the Goddard penname is likely a mischevious tweak of GISS. So what? Please address the facts of the article. What information that is presented as fact is untrue?
Calling people big oil shills just doesn’t work anymore, if it ever did. It resonates in the AGW echo chamber, but the public isn’t buying it. The public view Exxon as a company that provides a product that makes their life easier, not as one hell-bent on destroying Mother Earth. Public opinion polls showing greater than 65% approval for more domestic drilling make this point crystal clear.
Making your case to the masses, persuading them to elect like-minded leaders, and implementing coices involving sacrifice is hard work. Ad homs are so much easier, but not very effective.
Mr Conrad,
What an awfully supercilious little posting. Can you answer this poor layman a couple of simple questions.
If you don’t agree with Goddard why don’t you post an alternative hypothesis?
Is it more fun to sneer than to debate?
Why are the AGW alarmists incapable of reasoned discussion?
I onkly ask these questions because I have an enquiring mind, you understand. Something that you seem to lack.
Thanks for the posting, Mr Goddard. Your contributions to sanity are much appreciated out in the world of us non-scientists.
Alan Millar (11:43:57)
I’ve copied and saved every daily graph from NSIDC since July 31, except for Aug 1. (Also, the Aug 9 graph wasn’t updated; it actually went from Aug 8 to Aug 10}. The axes on the graph change on Aug 5, but it still shows regular ‘adjustments’ to the line’s slope every 2-3 days, sometimes up, sometimes down. The biggest change happened Aug 1, when several days’ worth of an uptick were changed downward. So far, this year’s line is generally running parallel to last year’s line.
So far I’m up to 14 daily .bmp files totalling 34MB.
Anthony – You’ve got my e-mail if you want me to send you these images for use here.
Perhaps you all harassing Joseph Conrad (why the heck do posters in the climate change debate always either adopt founding fathers or 18th century authors for their pseudonyms?) could point out Mr. Goddard’s analysis to me. What’s that? He counted the number of pixels of ice on the pretty picture?
This is ridiculous. There isn’t anything scientific about this piece at all. Let me know when you’ve got an analysis that goes a tiny bit further than counting pixels on pictures… perhaps a mathematical analysis of recent years’ trends and their deviations from the mean ones, or an analysis of the methodology used by NSIDC to calculate their data? I’m not interestied in how many pixels are a different color on two pictures.
REPLY: COUNTERS, Pixels ARE DATA IN A DIFFERENT FORM. Pixels are formed from numeric data, into a corresponding RGB value. There are graphical histogram programs that count the number of matching pixels of specific RGB values. Using the color scale provided, and its corresponding RGB value, it is an easy and certain mathematical exercise to turn those pixels back into real data, with no loss, no rounding, no floating point error. I’m really surprised that you would snark with “He counted the number of pixels of ice on the pretty picture?” Very unprofessional.
Take a breather to consider dialing back the snark a bit. – Anthony