GROAN – Quantifying the Media Brainwashing of Weather=Climate

From the University of Michigan and the Eye-rolling Climate Science Department, because asking your doctor about severe weather is the dumbest thing you can possibly do. And for the zillionth time, WEATHER IS NOT CLIMATE!


Weather emergencies affect older adults’ views on climate and health

People over 50 who recently experienced an extreme weather event are far more likely to express concern about the effects of climate change on their health

Nearly 3 out of every 4 older Americans have experienced at least one extreme weather event in the last two years, a new University of Michigan poll finds. And living through such an event appears to make a big difference in how they view the potential impact of climate change on their health.

The new findings from the National Poll on Healthy Aging show that 59% of people aged 50 and over are concerned about how climate change could affect their health.

The percentage expressing concern was even higher among those who had recently lived through a weather emergency such as a wildfire, extreme heat, severe storm or power outage lasting more than a day. In all, 70% of those who had experienced at least one such event in the past two years expressed concern about climate change and their health, compared with 26% of those who had not lived through such an event.

Other groups of older adults were also more likely to say they are concerned about the effects of climate change on their health, including women, those reporting fair or poor mental health, and those who live in urban areas.

Only 6% of people over 50, though, had talked with a health care provider about how extreme weather might affect their health and how they could prepare or protect themselves.

This finding suggests more opportunity for older adults to ask their doctors and other health care providers about things like how to protect their lungs from wildfire smoke, how to prepare for prolonged disruptions to their supply of medications or the electricity that powers their medical equipment, or how to know where to find cooling centers, warming centers and emergency shelters in their community.

“Our findings suggest a need to help more older adults understand and take steps to prepare for the impacts of wildfires, hurricanes, tornadoes, extreme heat waves, winter storms and more, especially when it comes to the medications, medical supplies, electricity and access to care that these emergencies can disrupt,” says Sue Anne Bell, Ph.D., FNP-BC, a nurse practitioner and associate professor at the U-M School of Nursing who worked with the poll team. Bell specializes in studying the impacts of disasters and public health emergencies among older adults.

The poll is based at the U-M Institute for Healthcare Policy and Innovation, and supported by Michigan Medicine, U-M’s academic medical center.

In addition to the national poll report, the team compiled data for Michigan adults aged 50 and older compared with those in other states; an interactive data visualization is available at https://michmed.org/MDKQ2. An article summarizing the Michigan findings is available at https://michmed.org/28dbD.

The poll was conducted in August 2024, before some of the most extreme climate-related emergencies of the past year, such as September’s Hurricane Helene – the deadliest hurricane to strike the U.S. since Hurricane Katrina in 2005 – and the wildfires in the Los Angeles area in January of 2025.

In all, 2023 and 2024 were nearly tied for the number of weather and climate disasters with costs of more than a billion dollars, and the number of disasters of such magnitude has grown over the lifetimes of today’s older adults.

In addition to concern for their own health, 74% of people aged 50 and over say they are concerned about the potential impact of climate change on the health of future generations. That includes 43% who say they are very concerned, and 31% who are somewhat concerned.

Those older adults who had lived through a weather emergency in the past two years were more likely to express concern about future generations, with 83% of them saying they’re concerned, compared with 45% of those who had not experienced a weather emergency.

Extreme heat was the most common extreme weather event experienced by poll respondents, with 63% saying they had experienced at least one major heat wave in the past two years. Poor air quality due to wildfire smoke was next most common, at 35%, and 31% had been in the path of a severe storm. Prolonged power outages (lasting more than one day) were next most common, at 13%; power outages may be due to factors other than extreme weather.

The poll also asked older adults which potential future effects of climate change concerned them most. The most-cited potential future effect was more extreme heat events (70%), followed closely by air pollution and poor air quality (69%), loss of basic infrastructure like power and water (68%), more frequent severe storms (68%), and changes in infectious diseases (66%).

“These kinds of events can affect an older adult’s health directly – for instance, people with asthma and other lung diseases can have trouble breathing due to wildfire smoke, home medical equipment can be affected by power outages, and older adults can be more vulnerable to extreme heat and cold,” says poll director Jeffrey Kullgren, M.D., M.P.H., M.S., a primary care physician at the VA Ann Arbor Healthcare System and associate professor of internal medicine at U-M.

“But there are also indirect effects, including mental stress, lack of access to medications and medical care, and in extreme cases, lack of ability to evacuate safely or find shelter,” he added.

Bell notes, “Planning and preparing for emergencies is especially important for those with complex health conditions and disabilities, who should ask their regular health care provider for advice as well as seek information from their local and state emergency preparedness authorities.”

Poll respondents reporting a health problem or disability that limits their daily activities were slightly more likely than other older adults to say they had spoken with a health care provider about how to prepare for a climate-related emergency, at 8% vs. 5%. Among all older adults who had had such discussions, 64% had taken at least one action to prepare.

The U.S. government’s Ready.gov website offers information about how to prepare for and cope with extreme weather events and other emergencies.

Bell previously worked with the poll team to explore what older adults have done to prepare for emergencies; read the report here.

The poll findings come from a nationally representative survey conducted by NORC at the University of Chicago for IHPI and administered online and via phone in August 2024 among 3,486 adults ages 50 to 94 across the U.S. The sample was subsequently weighted to reflect the U.S. population. Read past National Poll on Healthy Aging reports and about the poll methodology.

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rbcherba
March 24, 2025 10:16 am

I’m a ’59e (engineering) graduate of the UMich and am embarrassed by its climate stand, which infects all departments.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  rbcherba
March 24, 2025 11:19 am

Blue-Green family and I agree.
Stuff at MSU included.
I stopped making alumnus donations to both because of the woke and ideological nonsense being pursued.

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
March 25, 2025 5:00 am

best to tell them that if they keep asking

I never gave a penny to my alumnus. They kept bugging me year after year. So once I said, “OK, I promise to send you a dollar”. A year later they called and a guy said, “you haven’t sent us the dollar yet”. 🙂

mohatdebos
Reply to  rbcherba
March 24, 2025 12:15 pm

You should be. As a Michigan resident I am more concerned that U of M is planning to spend billions of dollars to achieve net zero “carbon emissions.”

Tom Halla
March 24, 2025 10:35 am

Gee, in Texas, my healthcare providers who ever mentioned politics were as or more right wing than me. Most never mentioned politics, but those who expressed an opinion on it were libertarian to conservative.
And the “Climate Change is Gonna Kill You Right Soon Now” theme is pure leftist dogma.

insufficientlysensitive
March 24, 2025 10:38 am

If it’s a concern for medical consultants, take a look at their fellow professionals at the American Society for Civil Engineering. They wallow in ‘climate change’, nobly preparing for all the dinars and shekels they’ll gain by designing megatons of structures to ‘save’ us from the rising of the seas and the disasters of super-hurricanes. Their trade magazine has been flooded for a decade about their wise preparations for AGW – without a speck of application of the scientific method, which calls for skepticism and evidence before accepting the total surrender of the political community from the UN on down, to the legend of disastrous warming changes due to CO2.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  insufficientlysensitive
March 24, 2025 11:22 am

Just for clarity:
Medicine is an art, not a science.
Engineering, likewise, is not a science.
Both use science, of course.

That intelligent, educated individuals gobble down this nonsense is the real point you make. It is demonstrating a tragic loss of critical thinking.

FYI, it is not a legend. It is a lie.

hiskorr
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
March 25, 2025 6:27 am

I’ve heard it said differently: “Math is the only pure science. All the rest use engineering.”

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  hiskorr
March 25, 2025 12:23 pm

I like it.

Reply to  insufficientlysensitive
March 25, 2025 1:39 pm

I frowned after the climate change alarmism under engineers thinking it odd.
Then i reread and noticed i glossed over ‘civil’ before engineering.😁

Giving_Cat
March 24, 2025 10:41 am

For clarification; Our response to climate change has resulted in extended power disruptions. Not climate change, our response.

John Hultquist
March 24, 2025 10:55 am

I’m well over 50 [What’s that got to do with it?] and have – most of the time – prepared for disruptive weather events.
If my taxes helped pay for this carp, I want my money back. 🤠

Curious George
Reply to  John Hultquist
March 24, 2025 11:49 am

Discuss it with your plumber and your letter carrier as well. 🙂

Russell Cook
Reply to  John Hultquist
March 24, 2025 2:33 pm

People over 50 who recently experienced an extreme weather event are far more likely to express contempt at the news media / enviro-activists / woke 20-something researchers when it comes to blaming this stuff on Clima-Change™ because we’re old enough to remember when the craze of our youth or just prior to it was global cooling, plus we readily see how critical thinking is never applied to the issue by zealot news media / enviro-activists / woke 20-something researchers (insert old guy yelling at clouds meme here).

oeman50
Reply to  John Hultquist
March 25, 2025 4:54 am

Good one, John.

63% saying they had experienced at least one major heat wave in the past two years.”

Two years is…wait for it….WEATHER!

And “major hear wave” is called SUMMER!

Ex-KaliforniaKook
March 24, 2025 11:08 am

Part of the problem for us old folks is that we were hounded by the coming ice age scare. Many of us worked with our dads, uncles, and grandparents. My dad and uncles discussed the scare of their day: “The Earth is going to Burn!”, and Grandpa would chuckle and tell us about his generation’s fear of a coming ice age.

So, us oldsters can’t forget that the science is NOT settled, and in fact appears very periodical. Dad doubles down by telling me every Fall that Global Cooling has returned, and every Spring that Global Warming has returned. Very old joke, and reminding him he’s only right for the Northern Hemisphere doesn’t stop him from making the joke again.

Actually, it’s kind of refreshing.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Ex-KaliforniaKook
March 24, 2025 11:24 am

Dad jokes are great.
Kids moan. Wives shake their heads and roll their eyes.
Dad jokes are great.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
March 24, 2025 6:59 pm

Cloud A to cloud B: “Shirley you can’t be Cirrus.”
Cloud B: “Oh, but I am. And don’t call me Shirley”.

Reply to  Ex-KaliforniaKook
March 24, 2025 12:02 pm

That “coming ice age scare” was so important they even beamed Mr. Spock down from the Starship Enterprise to play “Leonard Nimoy” as the narrator of a documentary about it. 🙂

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  David Dibbell
March 25, 2025 6:55 am

I remember when Spock declared that there was no intelligent life on a certain planet. I now have to wonder if he was describing Earth.

LetsGoViking
March 24, 2025 11:11 am

Balderdash, I say.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  LetsGoViking
March 24, 2025 11:25 am

Don’t sugarcoat it. Tell us how you really feel.
/humor

Reply to  LetsGoViking
March 24, 2025 1:03 pm

Balderdash, I say.”

And poppycock, not to mention piffle, fiddlesticks, blatherskite, codswallop and humbug. !

Mr.
March 24, 2025 11:18 am

When we read this sort of stuff (tosh?), one must wonder how “newly-discovered” lands ever became populated by the various peoples who lived in those times.

I mean, can we imagine say Columbus reporting that when his ship reached land across a vast uncharted ocean, the crew were wary about landing there, feeling that the weather was “a bit fresh” for their liking?

Seriously, urbanised humans these days are becoming an endangered species because ambient climatic conditions aren’t Goldilocks.

(Maybe that’s nature’s way of bringing about “The Great Re-Set” that leftists crave?)

Reply to  Mr.
March 24, 2025 11:50 am

Many of us remember when air conditioning was a luxury. If we have an air conditioner in our homes, it was a window unit and we only used it on the worst days. Our cars had no a/c, just windows.

But the younger generations go from climate-controlled homes to climate-controlled garages to climate-controlled autos to climate-controlled workplaces. If they work in an office, they probably have a sweater to wear when the office gets too cool in the summer.

It’s a small wonder they believe the climate is heating.

MarkW
Reply to  More Soylent Green!
March 24, 2025 12:21 pm

I have a friend who worked in the computer room at our college back when Jiminy Carter was president. Carter ordered all government agencies to reduce energy usage.
The computer room had big chillers that were used to keep the humidity low, this was in Atlanta. After refrigerating the air to squeeze the water out of it, they then warmed the air.
Since reducing the amount of dehumidification would invalidate the warranty on those very expensive computers, they decided that the way to meet Carter’s new orders was to no longer heat the air before it was released from the chillers.

It got so cold in the computer room that the workers had to wear coats. They even had to put small electric heaters in the computers, to keep them from getting too cold.

In the middle of a typical Atlanta summer, my friend managed to come down with pneumonia.

DMA
Reply to  More Soylent Green!
March 24, 2025 1:54 pm

“Our cars had no a/c, just windows.” But we had wing windows that haven’t been seen since before the ice age scare.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  DMA
March 25, 2025 6:56 am

Those wing window (vents) were fabulous.
Discontinued because in an accident or two, someone banged their head.

Reply to  DMA
March 25, 2025 1:44 pm

Wing AND sliding windows…and green moss over time.

oeman50
Reply to  More Soylent Green!
March 25, 2025 5:00 am

Our cars had 460 air conditioning: 4 windows down and 60 mph.

Sparta Nova 4
March 24, 2025 11:18 am

The sample was subsequently weighted to reflect the U.S. population.

Homogenized data.

A lot depends on the wording of the questions.

“Did you beat your wife again last night?” is the old comedy version of this.

Mr.
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
March 24, 2025 11:51 am

Once collected data is “treated” in any way, is it still “data” or a collection of “numerical constructs infused with assumptions”?

(asking for pedant friend 🙂 )

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Mr.
March 24, 2025 1:00 pm

The latter.

Bruce Cobb
March 24, 2025 11:26 am

Maybe they should worry about how climate propaganda is affecting their mental health.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
March 25, 2025 1:47 pm

Well, some time ago on the BBC a psychologist suggested taking up…wait for it..: CLIMATE ACTIVISM.
So, scared of Climate? Become a Climate Activist. Officially approved.

The Expulsive
March 24, 2025 11:55 am

I have never discussed climate with any of my physicians. My daughter is a physician, she might mention the weight epidemic in America, and her thoughts on why, but I don’t think she would want a patient to discuss climate.
Also, a real engineer gets a degree in applied science, and to be able to practice effectively you need to understand the underlying science that applies. Most engineers end up doing something other than engineering once out of school for a few years (usually for opportunity, advancement and money), but that does not mean they know little about science.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  The Expulsive
March 24, 2025 1:03 pm

That is correct. Engineers are not scientists, but we do use science.
The climate modelers could use more than a little help from engineers.
Analysis of alternatives pops up quickly as does identifying and challenging assumptions.

March 24, 2025 12:12 pm

“Nearly 3 out of every 4 older Americans have experienced at least one extreme weather event in the last two years, a new University of Michigan poll finds.”

Two questions.
Did they define just what makes a weather event “extreme”?
Did they ask how many “extreme” weather events in their lifetime?
(OK. Three questions.)
Why only the last two years?
(OK. Four questions.)
Are they counting hurricanes when they went to Florida for the winter?

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Gunga Din
March 25, 2025 6:58 am

Question 4: Why did they bother with the survey if they already had determined the outcome?

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
March 25, 2025 1:49 pm

The answer is obvious..

Rud Istvan
March 24, 2025 12:15 pm

Scraping the bottom of the barrel.
I am in my mid seventies, and have lived thru blizzards and tornadoes in Chicagoland, and several severe (cat3+) hurricanes here in south Florida.
My prep comprises updating my hurricane go bag beginning of every season. Don’t need any help from the government or my doctors.

Mr.
Reply to  Rud Istvan
March 24, 2025 1:32 pm

Do you need to tape your windows Rud?

Living in a tropical cyclone zone as a child, we were too poor to afford rolls of tape, so our Mum used to tack blankets to the tops of the window frames inside our house, and also rig up rolls of towels that could be placed at the outside bottoms of the doors and drawn in up against the outsides with twine under the bottom door frames once they were closed.

I guess that kept the driving rainwater out, and also helped minimise the build-up of pressure inside the house.

Necessity being the Mother of Invention, and all that . . .

Coeur de Lion
March 24, 2025 12:23 pm

Come on, man up, everybody!

Gregory Woods
March 24, 2025 12:23 pm

I have experienced extremely good weather over the last 77 years.

March 24, 2025 12:42 pm

It’s all so obvious…..no amount of money will fix today’s weather, but taxes can fix the 30 years of it called climate.

Bob
March 24, 2025 12:49 pm

This is pitiful. Number one most people 50 years old would likely kick the snot out of you for calling them old. Number two they probably had to include people in their fifties to insure at least some in their poll had been brainwashed by the worthless education system. Three most retired people 62 plus are in pretty good health and don’t need a bunch of college kids telling them what do. Those seniors who aren’t in good health likely have lots more important things to worry about than so called CAGW. Everyone involved in this worthless study should be fired.

Reply to  Bob
March 25, 2025 5:10 am

To me, at 75, and some of my peer friends, anyone under 50 looks like a kid. 🙂

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
March 25, 2025 9:07 am

I remember watching John Wayne in “The Sands of Iwo Jima” 10 or 15 years ago when it struck me. Not only was I now well over twice the age of the character he was playing but I was also well over the age John Wayne was at the time!

March 24, 2025 12:52 pm

I’ve lived in southern Sydney, the central west of NSW and Newcastle region.

I’ve seen floods, droughts, and experienced things called “heat waves”.

It is just WEATHER, and none of it has changed much in several decades.

Rick C
March 24, 2025 1:14 pm

This is just an attempt to measure the effectiveness of their propaganda campaigns and generate additional alarmist talking points. Love the use of the phrase “lived through” as though the minor weather related discomfort of a heat wave was a life threatening trauma. DOGE the lot of them.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Rick C
March 25, 2025 7:00 am

A very insightful post. “Lived through.”

Reply to  Gregory Woods
March 24, 2025 5:53 pm

Greens running the agenda because of Merz’s cowardice and betrayal of the people who voted for him.

Look to AfD to win biggly next election as all betrayed conservative voters vote to that party.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  bnice2000
March 25, 2025 7:03 am

When will they conduct the wake on Germany?

March 24, 2025 2:30 pm

If leftist alarmists and the media (but I repeat myself) weren’t constantly bleating about climate change global warming, no one would think to ask about something so completely irrelevant to your health as your concern about climate change global warming. It’s as relevant as asking how your concern for commercial air travel safety affects your health. It doesn’t. Unless you’re a chronic worrier, then you have mental health problems to address.

Editor
March 24, 2025 2:39 pm

This poll is a good example of priming responses through questioning. The actual poll questions are found here (pdf download.).

Reply to  Kip Hansen
March 24, 2025 5:04 pm

Kip, that link does not work.

Perhaps this one, although ‘final’ indicates some revision?
https://www.healthyagingpoll.org/sites/default/files/2025-03/0428_NPHA-Climate-Change-Report-Qs_FINAL_03-17-2025.pdf

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Zig Zag Wanderer
March 25, 2025 12:25 pm

Oh boy. Read it. Did you beat your wife AGAIN last night?

Leon de Boer
March 24, 2025 5:12 pm

What has astounded me is the Billions in different departments EPA, NIH, NASA that was being spent on very dubious reasons and I am not a US citizen and paying the bill. Perhaps it time for Australia to have an audit of it’s departments and see if they have gone the same way.

Ed Zuiderwijk
March 24, 2025 5:24 pm

This caricature is almost funny.

March 24, 2025 5:41 pm

> Nearly 3 out of every 4 older Americans have experienced at least one extreme weather event in the last two years, a new University of Michigan poll finds

What they don’t say, but which is almost certainly true is that nearly 3 out of every 4 Americans have experienced at least one extreme weather event in every 2 period period since they were born – and so did their ancestors.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  StuM
March 25, 2025 7:05 am

How many of those were heat related and how many were winter storms?
My years in Michigan were covered by moderately pleasant summers and brutal winters.

I recall a 3 week period of time where 16 of those days were listed as the coldest temperature in CONUS.