by David Turver
The Climate Change Committee (CCC) recently released the 7th Carbon Budget, setting out what the UK’s greenhouse gas emissions have to be in the period 2038-2042. Their report mentioned “misinformation” or “misinformed” on five occasions in the context of low-carbon technologies in general and EVs and heat pumps in particular. But, as we shall see, the CCC itself has been peddling misinformation in its own report on a scale that destroys its own credibility.
Heat Pumps
One of the most interesting passages is where the CCC say “one-third of people who said that they were unlikely to install a heat pump stated that it may not be possible to do so in their home and one-third stated that they would rather wait to see how the technology develops. This is despite heat pumps being a well-established technology, found to be suitable for the vast majority of UK homes”.
The trouble is that, in this interview from 2024, the new CEO of the CCC, Emma Pinchback, still did not have a heat pump in her own home. Her predecessor, Chris Stark, said the cost of heat pumps was too high and that it’s very difficult to install them in existing flats like his. Either they have both succumbed to the scourge of misinformation, or the CCC is peddling its own misinformation.
Renewable Electricity Cost Misinformation
More seriously, the whole basis of their costs, particularly for renewables, is very suspect indeed and is perhaps the biggest source of misinformation in the whole report (see Figure 1).
They assume offshore wind costs £51/MWh in 2025, falling to £31/MWh in 2050 and solar costs at £46/MWh in 2025, falling to £27/MWh in 2050. Their figures for 2030 onwards are lower even than the Government’s generation cost report from 2023 which was hopelessly optimistic. Moreover, they seem to have relied on models for their assumptions rather than look at actual data from renewables auctions (see Figure 2).
The orange line is the CCC cost estimate. The magenta line shows the awards and offers for fixed bottom offshore wind, with the shaded box reflecting that parts of contracts awarded in AR4 have been rebid at higher prices. Of course, there were no bids in AR5. The latest awards for new projects in AR6 were roughly twice the cost estimated by the CCC. Moreover, the trend is upwards, completely opposite to the CCC’s assumption. It is also worth noting that the CCC wants us to have 125GW of offshore wind installed by 2050. It is inconceivable that this can be achieved without significant floating offshore wind capacity. The costs of this technology are even more expensive and rising quickly, with the Government recently announcing that the AR7 offer price of £245/MWh in 2024 money will be higher than the contract awards in AR6. The AR7 offer price for floating offshore wind is more than six times the CCC’s assumption for 2030 delivery. The strike prices for solar power in AR6 are also roughly double the CCC’s assumption for 2030 delivery.
This gross under-estimate of electricity generation costs has knock-on effects throughout their calculations and is the source of much of the misinformation in the 7th Carbon Budget.
However, the danger to our electricity supply does not stop there. The electricity system is “designed around a 1-in-20 adverse weather year (1987), when the report they rely upon also mentions the 1-in-50 year event in 2010. They have repeated the error in the 6th Carbon Budget by looking at just single year events, not the multi-year wind drought from 2009-2011. This is the error that Chris Stark wanted to kill with technical language. This error means they have vastly under-estimated the amount of storage required to keep the lights on and so their capex costs are far too low.
Jolly Hockey Sticks
The CCC’s Balanced Pathway for Electricity Supply is based on a series of hockey stick charts for a vast range of technologies (see Figure 3).
The rate of delivery of offshore wind and solar must rise substantially. Low-carbon dispatchable generation capacity (gas with carbon capture or hydrogen) must increase almost exponentially from zero to over 38GW by 2050. Medium-duration and battery storage must also expand far more rapidly than they have to date, and interconnector capacity must increase fourfold, despite rising scepticism on the Continent. The amount of “time-shifted demand” – a euphemism for charging penal rates for electricity at peak times on dark, calm winter evenings – must rise from zero today to 32TWh by 2050.
Their plans for industry also show similar hockey stick predictions (see their Figure 7.3.3). Apparently, the proportion of energy for industry coming from electricity will almost triple to 72.8% by 2050, driven by all this supposedly cheap renewable electricity and heat pumps. Residual heat will come from green hydrogen, which costs more than six times UK natural gas and more than 20 times US gas.
This is what happens when you have a committee firmly ensconced in an ivory tower built on Fantasy Island: the Balanced Pathway becomes unhinged from reality.
S-Curves and Price Dislocations
We also have to suspend our disbelief when looking at their plans for our homes (See Figure 4).
According to the CCC, the proportion of homes with a heat pump (chart a) goes up much faster than it ever has, driven by a miraculous dislocation in the price of electricity compared to the price of gas (e), and a dramatic reversal in the trend of the cost of heat pump installations (f).
They believe the proportion of homes with heat pumps is going to miraculously triple between 2023 (0.59%) and 2025 (1.59%), or rise by 290,000 units, and then rise by more than 1.5% per year from 2029 to 2030 and over 3% per year from 2031 to 2032. 3% of roughly 29 million households is about 870,000 heat pumps per year. The latest Heat Pump statistics statistics show just 42,645 heat pumps were installed in 2024, in stark contrast to the over 98,000 claimed by the Heat Pump Association, using “market estimation techniques to extrapolate the data”. Of course, the CCC uses the Heat Pump Association data. The CCC assumes an average cost of heat pumps in 2025 of £11.4K, falling to £7.8K in 2050. However, the average cost of an air-source heat pump in the final quarter of 2024 was £12.5K, and ground-source heat pumps cost £25K. The trend in cost per kW of capacity installed is up too, not down. In addition, the CCC’s costs exclude ancillary costs such as a new hot water tank and radiator upgrades. They expect the take-up of heat pumps to be supported by government subsidy or discounted finance schemes.
The dislocation in the ratio of electricity to gas prices arises because they assume that electricity policy costs (aka subsidies) are moved either to gas or to general taxation. They want to hide the cost of all these “cheap” renewables elsewhere to mask the true cost. In their most extreme scenario, the price of electricity halves relative to gas between 2024 and 2026, going from a ratio of 4.32 to 2 in two years; that is a lot of cost to take from electricity and load onto gas bills. Yet strangely, the cost of home energy for households with a gas boiler falls out to 2050 after peaking in 2026 in all three of their scenarios (see their Figure 8.4). They must be assuming policy costs fall to almost zero because of the false low-cost renewables assumption.
None of these assumptions are remotely credible.
Overall Costs
The Climate Change Committee expresses the costs of their plans as the difference between the gross costs of their balanced pathway and a notional baseline. They do not provide the raw costs of either their pathway or the baseline, so it is impossible to get to the bottom of their actual cost estimates.
As we have seen above, they are under-estimating the costs of renewable generation and heat pumps. This is underlined by their estimate of electricity supply capex to 2030, which is just £88.5 billion (from their Figure 4.1), about a third of NESO’s estimate of £260-290 billion for the cost of Miliband’s Clean Power 2030 plan.
They say that EVs cost 37% more than petrol cars in 2023, but that premium will turn into a discount of 2.7% by 2028, growing to a discount of over 12% by 2050. This, coupled with falling electricity prices, drives an adoption rate of EVs faster even than Norway. But if their electricity price estimates are unreliable, then this prediction must also be consigned to the dustbin.
These faulty assumptions are carried through into their overall capital and operating cost estimates (see Figure 5).
Their assumption of unreasonably low-cost renewables is how they manage to claim that there will be net benefits arising from their plan from 2040 onwards. This extraordinary claim is made despite spending ~£10 billion per year (see their Figure 7.12.2) on “engineered removals,” by which they mean Bioenergy with Carbon Capture and Storage (BECCS), a net energy sink, and Direct Air Carbon Capture and Storage (DACCS). They want us to spend over £30 billion on BECCS capex by 2050 and over £6 billion per year on opex from 2045. In addition, there is nearly £25 billion in capex and over £3 billion per year in opex by 2050 on DACCS machines to suck CO2 directly from the air. The total cost of all their engineered removals amounts to £180 billion by 2050. They would have us believe that despite this massive spending, their plan is cheaper overall than their mythical baseline of no further climate action.
It does seem rather odd that we need quite so many taxes, subsidies and other Government interventions to achieve these goals. It is almost as if the collective wisdom of the market does not believe the CCC’s misinformation.
You Vill Eat Zee Bugs
Not content with meddling with the energy system, industry and the way we heat and insulate our homes, the CCC also wants to interfere in the food chain. Alternative proteins are mentioned 34 times in the report. This is a euphemistic phrase for things like insect proteins, although they did note that their Citizen’s Panel was not too keen on eating bugs.
They also want to cull our cattle and sheep, calling for the number of livestock to almost halve (see their Figure 5.3), from 44 million this year to 25.8 million by 2050. In essence, they want to sacrifice our sheep and cattle on the altar of Gaia to appease the weather gods. They also want to cut meat consumption by a third, from 1,011g per person per week to just 678g.
Conclusions
What we have in the latest Carbon Budget is a Soviet-style five-year plan, where the Government is being urged to meddle in our lives to an unprecedented extent. The CCC wants more Government interference in energy, homes, industry and even the food we eat. All their calculations are underpinned by woeful cost assumptions, and they have repeated the same mistake about low wind years from the 6th Carbon Budget. The so-called Balanced Pathway is totally unhinged from reality. They have the brass neck to publicly worry about misinformation, despite propagating obvious untruths in their own report. Misinformation is supposed to be created by mistake, and disinformation is the knowingly spreading of false information. Sadly, we must conclude that the CCC is spreading disinformation.
The renewable electricity cost assumptions are far too low and carry through to much of the rest of the report. It does not take a genius to look at the results of the renewables auctions to check their figures. The NESO plan for Clean Power by 2030 has been in the public domain since November, so it is inconceivable that the CCC was unaware of their cost estimates.
This has not stopped Simon “Nine Times Cheaper” Evans from Carbon Brief promoting the false headline figures as gospel truth (see Figure 6).
We can only hope that Parliamentarians are more diligent than Dr Evans and can muster the analytical skills to pull the Carbon Budget apart and subject it to forensic scrutiny before blindly adopting it as the law of the land.
I have made three FOI requests about the 7th Carbon Budget. It will be interesting to see the results.
David Turver writes the Eigen Values Substack, where this article first appeared.
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The UK energy economics is like watching a slow moving train wreck … plenty of victims of a political juggernaut as it runs into the wall of reality.
But the sun and wind are free, aren’t they, Nick?
Nick…..?
Nick…..?
(Talking of misinformation….)
Sure they are but harvesting that “Free Energy” is a Bitch.
Acreage Intensive
Mineral extensive
Low density
Part time availability
Weather dependent
Time of day dependent
You can’t add more sunlight (Solar Fuel) at night
You can’t add more wind (wind fuel) during still conditions
You can’t throttle wind if it’s too strong (9-50mph goldilocks zone)
And you constantly have to replace both after severe storms or Hail Damage
I will never survive..
I have just gone through 3kg of nice beef T-Bone stakes and 3 Rib eye chops. = 6 kg this week.
next week the same.
The local country butcher will go broke if this was to happen here.
how do they calculate the meat and fat content??
Does it include bone?
I buy a lot of meat at the local market. It gives plenty of people employment.
Do they want all markets to go bust.
Out in France that would be real popular!!!
Once they’ve co eted the whole countryside in solar panels there won’t be room for animals or anything else for that matter.
Cows love to Rub against structures so Solar Panel supports would be ideal and would likely tend to reorient the panels away from the optimum solar angle over time. Solar and Agriculture don’t mix well.
Trying to drive a harvester through a field Or a combine through a corn field shared with Solar Panels to collect grain would certainly be a feat to behold. How many panels get destroyed with each harvest?
Given the fact that the solar panels shade the ground underneath them, I have a hard time understanding how one could grow crops under them.
Shade-tolerant cultivars!
200 yards from my house I have a farmer currently working all hours during lambing. At the top end of the village is an abattoir. Both would likely close under this ‘plan’. The mainstream political parties in the UK really don’t understand the impact of the Climate Change Act and the CCC’s communist centralised planning on the economy of the country.
Did they budget for this?
Heathrow Airport is experiencing delays and travel chaos this morning after an electric car exploded and erupted into flames.
An electric car was seen engulfed in flames inside an airport tunnel, which connects Terminals 1, 2 and 3. GB News
Time for popcorn?
The car was completely destroyed.
Oh dear.
By accident or by design?
Bad luck?
For who?
The smoke from an EV fire is rather toxic. Probably not a good place for popping popcorn.
After they remove the remaining debris, they will have to inspect the tunnel for structural damage. If they find any, it will have to remain closed until repairs can be completed.
Yes, its a noble effort, as were Paul Homewood’s pieces on the same subject. But It will probably none of it help.
The only thing that will fix this is a U-turn by Starmer. The only thing that will bring about such a U-turn is blackouts. Or maybe the prospect of a landslide win for Reform
David Cameron, Gordon Brown, Theresa May, Boris Johnson and now Starmer/Miliband all have been committed to the same agenda. The original Climate Change Act of 2008 which set up the process of Carbon Budgets was passed under Gordon Brown with only two or three dissenting votes. The later strengthening of the Act’s provisions took place under Theresa May without even being put to a vote.
Miliband was the sponsor of the 2008 Act, and thus had known form when Starmer appointed him. Starmer knew what he was doing, and has come out with the same rhetoric about the supposed climate crisis.
The SNP, Liberals, Plaid (Welsh Nationalists) all have been in favor.
The question that occurs to one is: do any of them actually believe this stuff? But then you also have to ask whether they really believe the equally lunatic and unscientific ideas on sex/gender and “race” that they go along with. I do not know, but one’s advice to people in the UK has to be:
People in the UK have to think realistically about what they will do during a week long electricity outage. You could probably get by just running low voltage lighting sparingly off large batteries, and wrapping up in several layers of fleece. But it will not be fun, and the old will die in numbers.
I have a few acoustic guitars…
Buy candles while you still can or the wax to make them.
Make sure you make them, before the power goes out.
Now think what is the central power behind all those politicians. Who is providing them with the ”money”. Who can print all the ”money” needed to corrupt the system. Who is behind the inflation killing your savings? Who has more power than your government and using politicians as puppets to dictate their plan so that their imploding centrally controlled economic system can live just a little bit longer?
A Central Bank System is no different than a Centrally Controlled Soviet-style system. In both systems it is NEVER We The People.
If the politicians weren’t deficit spending, the Central Bank wouldn’t have the power to do anything,
With the deficit spending, that bank has two choices, high interest rates or high inflation.
High interest rates will reduce economic activity, usually causing a recession and reducing inflation.
In my village, in rural North Shropshire, we’ve had three 10-minute blackouts since Christmas. Can’t be that far off they become more widespread.
I’m bubble wrapping a couple of Citroen Picasso diesels for my grandchildren . Current road tax with AdBlu is £20 p.a. So clean!! Had some range anxiety yesterday. Down to the last bar on the fuel gauge with a warning squeak! Seventy miles to go!!
At the very least, many pitchforks are needed.
Are they bio-degradable pitchforks?
Unfortunately the prospects for Reform winning a landslide have just nosedive. Not helped by a thoroughly incompetent energy policy launch that demonstrated they have no idea how to unwind net zero and restore a working low cost system.
I remain convinced that having lots of people die off, especially retirees, is part of the plan.
My brother in Holland has solar panels..but he also has an efficient wood burner AND a generator with fuel storage. He is covered. As he has many solar panels on the roof of his (large) houseboat he is able to keep a steady 18 degrees C and uses his stove to go up to 22-24 C. The costs are offset by the money he generates from putting electricity back on the grid in summer. Alas for him and many others this scheme will end in 2026 as was expected. It is likely reversed into people actually PAYING for putting electricity back into the grid. Oh, the irony!😃
Paraphrasing a wise man, “….do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it’s funny.”
It’s worth mentioning that, despite all of the above, the only way the CCC can get their figures to work is by imagining 38 GW of “low carbon dispatchable capacity”, i.e. the fabled “Dispatchable Emissions Free Resources”, that has all the benefits of existing thermal generation capacity, with the only downside being that no such technology exists, or is even on the horizon.
Edit:
Also, 433 GWh of “medium-duration storage capacity (excl hydrogen)”, another wholly imaginary technology that appears to require us to suspend the laws of physics.
They might as well have been writing an episode of The Jetsons.
Given that the Royal Society showed that the storage requirement is over 100TWh as hydrogen their storage estimate is less than 1% of what is needed allowing for the conversion loss. Just another of their fantasy projections.
As I noted on a previous thread about the CCC report you only have to read this small quote from page 306 to know they are living in fantasy land
“For the typical household bills will be lower in 2050 than in 2025 for heating and driving with minimal changes to food costs
Bills for energy and driving lower and minimal food price rises in 25 years time! When has that ever happened in modern times ?
You have to believe in fairy dust to accept this.
Are the going to legislatively suspend inflation?
Hasn’t the Central Bank System we are living under not always been a Centrally Controlled Soviet-style five-year plan economic system?
All that climate stuff is just an invention to make that imploding Central Bank System kick the can a little bit further down the road.
Where do you think inflation comes from? It is the Central Banks printing ”money” like there is no tomorrow to ”stimulate” their failing economic system killing your savings. It is poverty forever just like the soviet system.
NET ZERO FOLLY
As most self respecting scientists know, man-made carbon dioxide has virtually no effect on the climate. It is a good gas essential to animals and plant life. Provided dirty emissions are cleaned up, we should be using our substantial store of fossil fuels while we develop a mix of alternatives including nuclear power to generate energy. There is no climate crisis, it has always changed and we have always adapted to it. It was not warm in the Ordovician ice age when atmospheric carbon dioxide levels were 4000 ppm and have been 15 times higher than the 420 ppm it is now. There was no industrial revolution then to be the cause. The present quantity of man-made carbon dioxide is insignificant compared with water vapour or clouds which comprise a vast majority of green-house gases. Man has no control over the climate. Statistically we are overdue a period of cooling.The sun and our distance from it have by far the most effect. This always varies a little in cycles as the earth’s axis of rotation varies. Most importantly, the Net-Zero (carbon dioxide) Policy will not do anything to change it. Countries like China, Russia and India are sensibly ignoring this and using their fossil fuels. They will be delighted at how the west is letting the power elites, mainstream media and government implement this Policy and the World Order Agenda 21/2030, to needlessly impoverish us as well as causing great hardship and suffering.
We’ve got 400 years of oil and gas and 1000 years of coal.
No need to panic just yet.
I think that Emma Pinchbeck with her Oxford classics degree is amply suited for the job. After all she’s as well qualified as most of the CCC.
Any body such as the CCC should be populated with scientists and engineers not bloody classics graduates. It makes my blood boil.
Even then can you really trust the scientists; post Covid I’d say definitely not.
Just because someone pulled a white coat out the dress-up box it doesn’t make them a scientist. Unlike accountants, physicians, and engineers, scientists are self-identified. There can be no criminal penalty for claiming to be a scientist, and people do.
Any time you see it reported that “scientists say”, think “artists say” and you will have exactly the same level of confidence. You need to do some due diligence to know you are dealing with a bona fide scientist before you can even know it is worth checking their claims for credibility.
I blame the media. They may do a poor job of holding politicians to account, but they don’t even attempt to test a “scientist”. (What is it about the self-identified that they are never to be challenged when in fact they should be challenged most vigorously? But I digress.)
Scientists are political…
Considering they want to take most of the country back to the middle ages, a degree in the classics sounds appropriate.
Sadly UK politicians are the kind of people who believe they are doing a good job by acting as if they know what they are doing by following what the virtue signalers say..
Rather than asking questions of those who do not see the UK having any kinds of climate/carbon dioxide issues other then choosing the most appropriate fuels to use while we are busy building a multitude of clean nuclear energy resources we have a political class that just loved the power they gave themselves by completely mishandling the the COVID19 ‘scare’.
Anyone can be frightened by what they are told but it is still essential that they ask their local Members of Parliament just what has gone wrong in Britain in the past two to three decades to reduce us to such a mess of cheats, liars and lies everywhere you look in politics, central or local, in the media especially the BBC, and in much of life generally..
In what way do you think they mishandled the “scare”?
I mean, we had 40,000 in hospital because of the virus at the peak, at least 100,000 deaths in the first year, the idea that we could’ve carried on as normal is questionable at best.
And no, “Sweden” is not an answer.
Kids in Sweden were not fnucked up though, were they. It was a pariah state until it wasn’t because it has done better.
As for handling the scare, Ferguson, when he wasn’t getting his leg over, put it like this:
Neil Ferguson reveals how China inspired lockdowns: ‘It’s a communist one-party state, we said. We couldn’t get away with it in Europe, we thought… and then Italy did it. And we realized we could’
https://www.climatedepot.com/2020/12/27/neil-ferguson-reveals-how-china-inspired-lockdowns-its-a-communist-one-party-state-we-said-we-couldnt-get-away-with-it-in-europe-we-thought-and-then-italy-did-it-and/
Hey presto, another lost generation.
Sweden had a tiny fraction of the cases we had, they had no need to impose the measures we had in the first wave.
Also, in case you’ve forgotten, the UK government tried to follow a very similar approach to Sweden in both the first and second waves, however in both cases events meant that the choice was between “lockdown” or total collapse of the healthcare system.
Why? You think “lockdown” did anything to not get the virus? How many had the virus and never became ill and don’t know they ever had it? You think masks did anything to stop it from spreading?
Why what?
Why did we have more cases? Simply because millions of us fly to France/Italy/Spain every winter, and in Feb/March 2020 they brought the virus back with them 1,500 times and spread it across the country.
Lockdown certainly delayed people getting the virus, which was the point, the alternative was vastly more cases in March/April 2020, to the point at which the NHS would certainly have collapsed, and that’s just as bad for those needing treatment for other conditions as it is for Covid patients.
As it happens, by delaying cases into 2021, they infected vaccinated people, so it also saved several hundred thousand of their lives.
Do masks stop it spreading? A bit, probably, maybe 10% if used properly, but that was the point, 2 meter rule, closure of some businesses, hand washing, etc, if you can find 10% here and another 10% there, then maybe you can get R down low enough to avoid more severe restrictions, such as closing schools.
Various little measures and annoyances such as masks, or a total lockdown? You choose.
The Great Barrington declaration covered it – no lockdown was ever, ever required.
If you think they were…
-1
How the truth stings.
-3, the real truth stings harder.
As you seem to constantly find out to your disadvantage.
I’m friends with several in the health care fields, they were all working overtime for well over a year to handle the load.
The US had over a million deaths from the COVID-19 “scare”.
There’s 350 million people in the US, about a 2.5 million of those die every year from all causes. However, surprisingly none of them died of the flu in the Covid years, amazing aint it.
According to the CDC in 2019, a total of 2,854,838 resident deaths were registered in the United States.
#diedsuddenly has entered the chat. Hope those boosters work out for you and your loved ones.
“UK politicians are the kind of people who believe they are doing a good job”
And when it becomes all too apparent that they did quite the opposite, they employ/deploy the Blair defence:
I did it in good faith
I did it because I believed it was the right thing to do.
I cannot apologise…
It’s worked a treat since 2003
Can anyone fill in the figures for wind generation as I have never seen them in print?
For on-shore and off-shore:
Costs for:
The initial survey of land, sea and wind speeds
Rental of land for on-shore turbines
The cost of the turbine itself and installation
Connection to the grid
Maintenance
Length of life before replacement
Removal of outdated turbine and foundations
Cost of replacement
Opportunity cost of money involved
Costs of providing backup
Then divide relevant costs by 6m kW hrs for on-shore
13m kW hrs for off-shore
to get the initial capital required, yearly running costs and backup, and eventual replacement or removal costs as well as the opportunity cost of the money involved.
I have based the actual output per turbine per year on figures on Business Norway website.
On-shore 3MW capacity 22.8% actual production = 6m kW hrs per year
Off-shore 3.6MW capacity 42% actual production = 13m kW hrs per year
If anyone can provide the figures I would be most interested
If you search for the following pdf you can get some figures for the costs of building and operating a 450MW floating offshore wind farm. No decommissioning costs though.
BVGA-1644-Floating-Guide-r2.pdf
It was published on behalf of the UK Crown Estate and Crown Estate Scotland in May 2023
Can’t say I have ever come across anything that gives information in the detail you are asking about.
Dave and Michel, Thank you for your comments. The reference to the pdf which I have found very interesting and gives some figures that can be used to calculate the cost of off-shore floating wind power.
I see that the document is copyright, so is it allowed to discuss the figures in a public forum.
The results from the calculations are quite interesting.
Well I have put some of the costs up on WUWT in the past and there has been no comeback. As long as you give the source I don’t think it should be a problem.
Thank you for that Dave, I suppose it comes under fair comment in the same way as a newspaper book review.
BVGA-1644-Floating-Guide-r2.pdf
It was published on behalf of the UK Crown Estate and Crown Estate Scotland in May 2023
The reference to the pdf which I have found very interesting gives some figures that can be used to calculate the cost of off-shore floating wind power.
I hope the following thoughts add up and make sense, but stand to be criticised.
It does mention decommissioning costs of £66 million.
As for the cost of building the wind farm it seems to come out at £1662 million, with operating and maintenance costs of £32 million per year.
There seems to be no mention of whether the Crown Estates charge any rental cost for the use of the seabed, nor is there any mention of servicing the capital cost of
the farm.
Following on with a back of an envelope calculation:
450MW * 8760 hours/year = 3,942,000 MW hrs/year
3,942,000 MWhrs * 44.2% = 1,742,364 MW hrs/year available
Using Michel’s % it would be
3.942,000 MWhrs * 22.1% = 871,182 MW hrs/year available
With Operating and Maintenance costs quoted as being £32 million/year the running costs per MWhr work out at either
£32m / 1,742,364 MWhrs = £18.37 per MWhr = 1.84p/kWhr
or
£32m / 871,182 MWhrs = £36.73 per MWhr = 3.67p/kWhr
If financing the capital costs are included at 4% this would be £66.5m per year and thus more than treble the cost to 5.65p or 11.39p kWhr.
This begs the question as to whether the people investing in off-shore generation would accept 4% return on capital.
Another cost not included is that of getting the electricity from the North of Scotland to where it is going to be used plus a profit margin for the retailers.
Any comments would be most welcome.
You’re dividing by the wrong amount. You are making the implicit assumption that it doesn’t matter when the power is produced, its of equal value. It isn’t. You need to divide only by the number of kWh that are produced in fit with demand. Don’t know how much that will be, but a lot lower than the total output.
Look up Ruud Istvan’s piece on LCOE – which is correct in method except for not making this adjustment.
True costs of wind electricity | Climate Etc.
So to take your example, you have 100 kWh of faceplate. That delivers 22.8kWh of production. But probably only half of that is produced when its usable, so its not 22.8 but 11.4kWh. I don’t know if one half is the correct figure, just a guess. You can download csv data from
http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk
And make sure you do the NPV analysis in accordance with usual accounting standards. The standard textbook is Brealey and Myers, Principles of Corporate Finance.
“heat pumps being a well-established technology, found to be suitable for the vast majority of UK homes”
Who exactly made this “finding”?
It goes against everything I have been hearing.
It is very easy: people believe the report because they want to believe it and have emotionally invested in the Green Dream. And if things turn out the opposite ‘we’ have to double and triple down on ‘our’ efforts. Clearly ‘we’ have not done enough. It is also easy to see that it is EXACTLY the same approach in regards to the Ukraine conflict with the addendum of reference to moustache man and flawed analogies w WW2, Churchill etc.
Britain needs to get rid of CCC today, they are liars and cheats. Fire up all fossil fuel and nuclear generators. Build new fossil fuel and nuclear generators. Remove all wind and solar from the grid. Enhance the grid.
A lot of wasted words, as it’s all a scam by the WEF.
The 7th Carbon Budget shows annual methane emissions in CO2-equivalents declining from about 85 Mt in 2008 to about 57 Mt in 2025(?). Yet, everything I have read indicates a concern about increasing methane (~0.01 PPMv/Yr), approaching a concentration of 2 PPMv, which is why the UN is pushing the Global Methane Pledge. Further, the 7th Carbon Budget is recommending reducing annual methane emissions from its current level (57) to less than 30 Mt in 2030, where it is essentially flat. Presumably, the decline us limited by natural emissions. However, most sources suggest that natural emissions are about 2/3rds of the total, not half. None of that really makes any sense, and I’m not left feeling that the rest of the Budget is any more reliable.