By P Gosselin
How’s the Green New Deal working out in Germany? Not very well at all.
Firstly, Germany has been in recession for almost 2 years now – thanks mostly to the policies of Economics Minster Robert Habeck (Green Party), who incidentally has no education in economics, business or finance. The guy just doesn’t know what he’s doing.
Secondly, German energy prices are among the most expensive in the world, and the German power supply has become more unstable than ever. Germany is now in a rapid deindustrialization tailspin.
E-cars aren’t selling
Another indicator that the Green New Deal is faltering badly: sales of new electric cars have plummeted 27.5%, reports Blackout News here, citing data from the Federal Motor Transport Authority (KBA). “Only 380,600 electric vehicles were newly registered. This corresponds to a decline of 27.5 percent compared to the previous year.”
“Diesel cars were even ahead of purely electric cars at 17.2 percent, reports Blackout News. “These figures show how far away Germany is from the government’s electromobility targets. According to the KBA, there were only 1.4 million electric cars on the roads at the turn of 2024/25, while the target is around 15 million by 2030.”
With the bad figures, it’s only natural that e-car proponents are calling for more subsidies in order to entice consumers to opt for e-cars, and higher taxes to punish those who refuse to cooperate by buying diesel or petrol engine vehicles, which are more reliable and cheaper.
Future remains bleak for e-mobility
So what does the future hold? That of course will depend on the outcome of the coming February 23 national elections. Currently the (fake) conservative CDU/CSU party are leading in the polls (29%) and are expected to win. But a new government under chancellor Friedrich Merz would likely continue Angela Merkel’s disastrous green policies, albeit at a slower rate than the current socialist-Green government under Olaf Scholz.
Growing resistance, AfD on the rise
However, Germany’s new conservative-libertarian AfD party, led by the charismatic Alice Weidel, is steadily closing the gap (22%), and today there’s even a chance of a major upset occurring come the end of February! The momentum is clearly on their side. Elon Musk called the AfD “Germany’s last hope.”
Though a victory by the anti-Green-New-Deal AfD party likely would not mean the chancellorship and thus a takeover of the reins of power, it would be another major setback for the ever increasingly unpopular green movement.
To make matters worse for the German green movement, President Trump will certainly bring energy prices down in USA, and thus further exacerbate Germany’s economic uncompetitiveness. Germany’s needs to wake up from its green fantasies.
In summary, the next four years don’t offer much hope for Germany and its crumbling green movement. To reach the set targets, authoritarian measures certainly would need to be enacted.
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E vehicles are a bad idea no matter how you look at it.
Vehicle ramming attackers seem to like them.
Of course. They are much heavier than ICE vehicles. Makes them excellent battering rams.
They are also quieter, all the better to sneak up on your victims.
What a nefarious idea!
The bad idea is subsidies. If they were not subsidized, and some people still wanted them for their real price, l’d have no problem. I would expect that being niche commuter cars, they would only be wanted by a small percentage of buyers.
BEVs should be a personal choice with no government mandates, tax credits or other subsidies. I have no idea why anyone buys them besides leftist virtue signaling. There will be a market for PHEVs and HEVs with no subsidies.
Correct data show total German EV (BEV plus PHEV) sales in 2024 were down 17,5%, not 27.5%
Germany Full Year 2024 Analysis.
2024’s full year powertrain shares were 13.5% BEV, 6.8% PHEV, 26.8% HEV, 17.2% diesel, and 35.2% petrol. These compare with 2023 shares of 18.4% BEV, 6.2% PHEV, 23.4% HEV, 17.1% diesel, and 34.4% petrol.
Estimates for the percentage gain of global electric vehicle (EV) sales in 2024 versus 2023 vary, but are generally in the range of +20% to +25%
NoTricksZone remains an unreliable source of information
It seems to depend how you count hybrid ones
https://www.carscoops.com/2025/01/ev-sales-in-germany-plunge-over-27-in-2024-after-subsidies-were-scrapped/#:~:text=In%20total%2C%20only%20380%2C609%20new,share%20down%20to%20just%2013.5%25.
I see. So you are looking at falling market share, not falling sales numbers…..
Even the ADAC says EV sales down by over a quarter.
‘Der E-Auto-Boom in Deutschland ist im vergangenen Jahr jäh gestoppt worden. Lediglich rund 380.600 reine Elektro-Pkw wurden 2024 neu zugelassen, wie das Kraftfahrt-Bundesamt (KBA) mitteilte. Das war mehr als ein Viertel weniger als im Jahr davor.’
386,000 just like WWUT (that unreliable source of information…..) said.
WWUT was right on the money. Your bait-and-switch of looking at market share says more about you than you might want people to know.
https://www.adac.de/news/neuzulassungen-kba/
EV popularity is merasured by market share
EVs usually include BEVs and PHEVs — all plug in vehicles. I specified that in my prior comment, which was accurate.
Total auto sales fluctuate with economic conditions. Only market share measures EV popularity among new vehicle purchase customers.
So EV popularity is falling dramatically.
If your analysis was to support your claims of EV popularity, EV market share should have *risen*, even as total sales fell.
Instead, sales fell and market share also fell. All you have done is point out that EV’s have suffered a double whammy, when the original WWUT article only suggested a single whammy.
Do you read before you comment?
I wrote that the EV market share in Germany was overstated i the article title. But globally the EV share is still rising. Those are facts not open for debate.
Here is the article title.
‘2024 Registrations Of New Electric Cars Plummet 27.5% In Germany…”Petrol Dominates”
You complained that this was nonsense, as electric cars were losing market share in Germany.
What is interesting is that the growth in the UK is slowing down rapidly.
The number of electric cars in the UK grew by 92 percent between 2020 and 2021. Between 2021 and 2022 the number grew by 67 percent. Between 2022 and 2023 the number grew by 47 percent. And between 2023 and 2024 they grew by only 39 percent. Same with market share. The growth in market share between 2020 and 2021 was 92%. The growth between 2021 and 2022 was 65 percent. The growth between 2022 and 2023 was 46 percent. And the growth between 2023 and 2024 was only 37 percent.
https://www.zap-map.com/ev-stats/ev-market
Their figures come from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders and the Department for Transport.
The article was about EV sales in GERMANY! GERMANY! is NOT “global.
No, PHEVs are not included in the EV category except those who want to skew the statistics to make EVs look better. PHEVs have gas engines as do standard hybrids and ICE-only vehicles. When, if ever, ICE vehicles are banned, so will hybrids and PHEVs because they have internal combustion engines. Also, you must know that PHEVs, while having electric range measured in the 10s of miles, they get worse highway mileage than standard hybrids because they weigh much more. It is not clear that PHEVs actually reduce CO2 emissions. Where I live, about 60% of our electricity supply comes from gas and coal which is typical of the US thus whether EVs or PHEVs actually reduce total CO2 emissions is not clear. Thus with our current electricity supply, an EV is really largely an external combustion vehicle and a PHEV is a somewhat less of an external combustion vehicle. The fuel-to-electricity conversion efficiency along with transmission losses, charging losses, battery losses, manufacturing losses and others must be considered to get overall number for comparative CO2 reduction. I do not know but would not doubt that with our current electricity supply, the least CO2 emission from transportation would be with hybrid vehicles with weight limits.
PHEVs and BEVs are usually combined and data for BEVs only is tough to find.
BEVs (versus ICE) have a huge upfront CO2 footprint and could take 70,000 miles of driving before they offset the extra upfront manufacturing CO2 emissions.
The all electric driving range of a plug-in hybrid electric vehicle (PHEV) battery depends on the make and model of the vehicle, but typically ranges from 15 to 60 miles
PHEVs average 35 mpg and average 50% pf their driving using only batteries. That could be thought of as a 70mpg average for the gasoline with 50% travel with batteries only.
Hybrid vehicles can get between 35 and 57 miles per gallon (mpg) of gasoline depending on the model:
My son bought a PHEV – it was a bit cheaper than the HEV version due to a subsidy – it gets 40+ miles/gal on regular gas alone. He lives in an apartment with only outdoor surface parking and no place to plug it in. But hey, he’s obviously environmentally conscious, right?
https://www.best-selling-cars.com/germany/2024-full-year-germany-best-selling-electric-cars-by-brand-and-model/
Plug-in hybrids are not EVs. They have a gas tank, an engine and a generator just like hybrids but the batteries are bigger than standard hybrids. The main difference is in cost. PHEVs cost less than comparable EVs and more than standard hybrids. When the battery runs low, the engine starts, charges the battery and provides propulsion power just like a hybrid. Many like to include PHEVs in the “EV” category to make the stats look better as you have. For EVs, sales are indeed down 27% as your numbers show.
Actually the batteries are smaller than standard hybrids and usually good for around 50 miles and they are charged from a plug (hence PHEV), not an on board generator. Only two makes that I know recharge the transportation battery from an on board fossil fuel powered generator …. BMW i3 and Fisker. The i3 propulsion is a great design but the car is butt ugly.
Pure EVs aren’t selling
Another indicator that the Green New Deal is faltering badly: sales of new pure EVs have plummeted 27.5%, reports
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Blackout News here, citing data from the Federal Motor Transport Authority (KBA). “Only 380,600 pure EVs were newly registered.
This corresponds to a decrease of 27.5% compared to the previous year.”
“Diesel cars were even ahead of new pure EVs at 17.2 percent, reports Blackout News.
“These figures show how far away Germany is from the government’s electromobility targets.
According to the KBA, there were only 1.4 million pure EVs on the roads at end 2024, while the target is around 15 million by 2030.”
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With the really dismal figures, it’s only natural that pure EV proponents are calling for more subsidies to entice consumers to opt for pure EVs, but there is no money in the budget, because of increased military production being sent to Ukraine where it is destroyed after a few days of use.
Those folks also want to impose higher taxes to punish those who refuse to buy useless pure EVs, and prefer buying diesel or gasoline vehicles, which are more reliable and cheaper and much more useful.
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Future remains bleak for pure EVs
So what does the future hold?
That of course will depend on the outcome of the coming February 23 national elections.
Currently the dysfunctional, out-of-favor CDU/CSU coalition is leading in the polls (29%) and are expected to win.
But a new government under chancellor Friedrich Merz would likely continue Angela Merkel’s disastrous green policies, albeit at a slower rate than the current socialist-Green government under Olaf Scholz.
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Growing resistance to existing politics; the rise of AfD is happening soon
However, Germany’s AfD party, led by the charismatic Alice Weidel, is steadily closing the gap (22%), and today there’s even a chance of a major upset occurring come the end of February!
The momentum is clearly on their side. Elon Musk called the AfD “the last hope to save Germany.”
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Though a victory by AfD likely would not mean the chancellorship, and thus a takeover of the reins of power, it would be another major setback the extremely unpopular green movement.
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To make matters worse for the German green movement, President Trump will certainly bring energy prices down in USA, and thus further worsen Germany’s economic uncompetitiveness.
Germany’s elites have only themselves to blame …
The German people needs to wake up from its propaganda-induced, green coma and vote those elites out.
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In summary, the next four years don’t offer much hope for Germany and its crumbling green movement.
To reach the unrealistic, expensive, green goals, Big Brother, Hitlerite, authoritarian measures, including severe censorship, would need to be enacted.
524,219 EVs purchased in 2023.
380,609 EVs purchased in 2024.
That’s a 27.5% decline in sales.
The 17.5% you calculated was for market share.
Thank you, Mary
pure, 100% EVs
Would never buy one new – way too expensive. A second hand one however after the 70% new price devaluation is a sensible option for a city car, especially those models that don’t have the fast charge option that reduces battery life.
Assuming that you have somewhere to charge it. Most drivers don’t.
Assuming you have guarantees it’s not been in an accident or misused in any way and you have somewhere to charge it
It is very easy to test a battery to determine misuse and remaining life.
… and maybe don’t charge it in the garage. (Hyundai-kona, Canada)
Be careful how many times the battery on that used car has been charged.
With an ICEV, the engine, if it is taken care of, will last for many, many years. It can also be replaced for at a relatively cheap cost.
The battery on the other hand will not last you much more than 7 to 10 years at most, and the cost to replace will exceed the remaining value of your car.
The support for the dangerous and racist AFD party is very foolish.
This is a party that wants to round up people based on their race, not citizenship, and forcibly remove them from their country.
We’ve seen a German party do this before. The final solution to non-German folk is not acceptable.
And the AFD also supports Putin in his fight against democracy.
They are not a right-wing party. They are far-right.
They are ethno-nationalists who will condemn anyone for things that their victims can do nothing about.
‘…their country.’???
Are you seriously claiming that Germans own their country, Germany? Isn’t that racist?
I have been reading up a bit about the AfD. They are far right, which is terrible of course, but they are against Sharia law being applied in Germany, so they get a plus score for that. They are actually very far right, which is really terrible, but they are opposed to excessive immigration which means they have a sound pro-Germany (and pro-Germans) policy on migration. They are now revealed as extreme right, which is unbelievably terrible, but they have recognised that “climate change” is a scam, thus giving some hope to Germans that the AfD would make their energy supply more reliable, which would have a positive effect on the German economy. The gloves have come right off now, so we know from other political parties that AfD are actually N*z*s, which means that they should not even be allowed to stand in the next election, but their energy policies would also cut costs for German businesses and consumers, which could rejuvenate the entire German economy.
So, on balance, where does that place the AfD?
Balance? In today’s Germany? Wow that really is a radical idea.
All the people calling AfD “right, far-right” etc.. are ULTRA-leftists.
AfD’s policies seem rather rational, national centrist, don’t they. ! 😉
“Far right” is anyone to the right of Leon Trotsky.
The far far far left have been in charge for so long that when you take one step to the right it is extreme 😉
You praise their right-wing policies (and anti-Green policies that are neither right nor left).
But you ignore the far right policy I pointed put. Forcing German citizens out of their own country just because they are not white,
Note: The reference I gave was from the Telegraph. Hardly a pinko rag.
‘We will send foreigners back to their homelands. Millions of them. That is not a #secretplan. That is a promise”‘
‘Germany’s Scholz vows to increase deportations after visit to Solingen mass stabbing site‘
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240826-germany-s-scholz-vows-to-increase-deportations-after-visit-to-solingen-mass-stabbing-scene
‘We will have to do everything we can to ensure that those who cannot and are not allowed to stay in Germany are repatriated and deported,” Scholz told reporters in the western city, where he laid a flower at the scene of the crime.’
So Scholz must be an ultra far right politician too then.
With so many alternatives on offer for Germans now, it’s no wonder they can’t get a government that works.
You have given us your interpretation of their policies.
Other people are less extreme in their interpretations.
Given the extreme hatred you have shown in the past for anyone and everyone to the right of the socialists, I hope if you’ll forgive me for taking your opinions with a couple of pounds of salt.
It also happens to be paywalled, so we can’t judge for ourselves, can we?
Mike,
The AfD (and Musk) are realistic, and pro-German people, and pro-Germany
That is why the AfD has become so popular among the German people.
But not among the elites of the other, shrinking parties, which use the government-controlled Media for censorship, and use the Big Media foghorn to blast the hate-AfD message, and scare-monger/shame the over-taxed, over-regulated German people, trying to make ends meet, with stagnant/decreasing real wages, in an economy that has been in recession in 2023, 2024, and 2025, an economy further burdened by tens on millions of culturally different people from all-over.
However, that hate-message is no longer working in the Republics of Georgia, Hungary, Slovakia, and Moldova, and in the UK, Germany, Italy, and France
Yes, far right ultranationalism is on the rise all over Europe, and in the US. It is not a good moment in history, and it will get worse.
Put down your crack pipe. Look at CA as the poster child of the left. Beautiful weather, abundant resources and sh!t government. They can’t control fires, homelessness, crime, corruption…..
“The only alternative to California is fascism.”
Best comment in the thread
You have to remember, that according to the far left….. Trump is also a Nazi ! 😉
ie… a rational country-loving realist !!
Merkel ‘ruined’ Germany, Ukraine conflict, ‘Hitlerite’ censorship: Key points from Musk’s talk with AfD leader
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/merkel-ruined-germany-ukraine-conflict-hitlerian-censorship-key
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The billionaire spoke with right-wing politician Alice Weidel on Thursday evening
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A collage of tech entrepreneur Elon Musk and Alternative for Germany co-chair Alice Weidel © Samuel Corum / Thomas Lohnes / Getty Images
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Tech entrepreneur Elon Musk has hosted a lengthy conversation with the co-chair of the right-wing Alternative for Germany (AfD) party, Alice Weidel.
Up to 150 experts were expected to monitor the talk livestreamed on X on Thursday evening for potential violations of Germany’s election laws, according to Politico.
Musk earlier ruffled feathers in Berlin by praising the AfD’s policies, including its tough stance on immigration. .
During his talk with Weidel, he reaffirmed his belief that “only AfD can save Germany” ahead of the 2025 parliamentary election.
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Merkel ‘ruined’ Germany.
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Weidel slammed former Chancellor Angela Merkel for her ‘open-door policy’ during the 2015 migrant crisis, when Germany accepted around 1 million asylum seekers from Africa and the Middle East.
Merkel “basically ruined our country,” Weidel stated, arguing that the phaseout of cheap nuclear energy
“destroyed the backbone” of the German economy.
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Merkel recently criticized the decision to abandon Russian gas, but she is the main cause of Germany’s present malaise, because:
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1) she and Sarkosy and Poroshenko and Zelensky, etc., had no intention of implementing the Minsk Agreements, which were an extremely good deal for Ukraine, which is now ruined,
2) she shut down the nuclear plants, and
3) she was a big promoter of the super-expensive, disastrous ENERGIEWENDE.
4) she was a big promoter of “refugees” from all over, which set up cultural clashes, crazy people driving trucks into shoppers during Christmas time, and social/economic/political unrest to the point of rendering Germany ungovernable and dysfunctional.
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In an interview with France 2 TV in December, she called the past arrangement a “win-win situation,” saying it provided Germany with low-cost energy, which is a bold-faced lie, because Germany has the highest electric rates in Europe.
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She thinks we suffer of amnesia
https://www.windtaskforce.org/profiles/blogs/merkel-ruined-germany-ukraine-conflict-hitlerian-censorship-key
The Minsk agreements were “ruined” by Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine and its reneging on the commitments made in the Budapest agreement, nothing else.
The Minsk Agreements were renounced by Merkel, Sarkosy, Poroshenko, and Zelenskyy, before Putin took action in February 2022, to protect the Russian-speaking people in east Ukraine, who had been bombarded for 8 years, from 2014 – 2022
About 10,000 died, 20,000 were wounded, all because they did not want to be ruled by the Neo-Nazi clique installed in Kiev in 2014
And here we go again. Anyone to the right of the socialists is far right and racist.
….but, but THEY are “progressives”
Audi are facing a lawsuit:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg52543v6rmo report from Norway. However, Norway gets most of its electricity from hydroelectric power plants.
For the person who down voted me, my comment was neutral.
Key quote:
“Little by little taxing petrol and diesel engine cars more, so they have become a lot more expensive to purchase, whereas electric cars have been exempted from taxes.”
That distorts the market badly.
Norway gets about 100% of its electricity from hydro, the cheapest and cleanest of all sources. It is a major exporter of fossil fuel.
Norway, along with the U.K. , has significant oil and gas drilling facilities in the North Sea.
Also it has two power plants that are fuelled by local coal, which it also exports.
It is fortunate that it does have the topography to make hydroelectric power feasible.
I don’t particularly object to Norway adopting an all electric personal transport system, after all there are electric trains and trams in use, but what I do object to is one country being used to say if they can do it so can every other country. Norway has a population a third of the size of London, with a density of 37.3 people per square mile. The U.K. has a density of 727 per square mile. Germany has a density of 611 per square mile. Larger countries have smaller densities but huge distances to cover, therefore electric cars are impractical for various reasons.
I could care less if AfD worships Hitler, I would just safe myself, the economy, social security. How people keep voting the same parties when they are destroying your nation is beyond me.
My prediction: Next 5 years we will see a total collapse of EU economy. In 2029 the rise of right wing anti-EU parties but no majority so no change in sight. The new EU commission will issue EU debt with new 5 year plans. Which of course will fail as they understand nothing about economy. In 2034 it will be a disaster and budget cuts have to be forced. Starting with money transfers to Eastern EU, where the citizens will revolt. They’re too poor for this green madness and without free money they gain nothing out of the EU. By 2040 the EU might break apart and/or euro will be gone.
All your green dreams about going EV are destined to fail. Nobody got money to pay for all that.
Propaganda to convince people that they are destroying the planet contributes to guilt, depression and suicide. Perhaps there is some component of self destruction in voting patterns.
But to your point on destruction by politicians, the mayor of LA is an example of such a deluded, probably mentally ill, incompetent and corrupt person. She seems to take joy in her city’s pain, showing sorrow only when some blame is cast in her direction.
She seems to have no comprehension of how much damage is due to her incompetence and how long and difficult recovery will be.
https://modernity.news/2025/01/12/la-mayor-lambasted-for-smiling-in-new-pr-video-as-city-burns/
“I would vote for Hitler if he promised me cheap groceries” is quite an alarming take.
Biden is a terrible Hitler but he sure loves war.
Norway, according to the BBC, is going to be first to 100% BEVs.
“A third of cars are now electric, and it will pass 50% in a few years,” says Kjell Werner Johansen from the Norwegian Centre for Transport Research. “I think the government accepts that a few new petrol or hybrid cars will still be on the market, but I don’t know anybody who wants to buy a diesel car these days.”
I don’t know what financial incentives there are for BEV ownership there are in Norway. The regular rate for electricity in Norway is 9.79 øre per kWh from January to March, and 16.93 øre per kWh from April to December. A norwegian Krone (100 øre) is about $0.09. The Norwegians aren’t happy that supplying electricity to Germany and the UK is increasing the cost of electricity at home.The cost in the UK is around £0.25 per kWh. Petrol is more expensive in Norway than in the UK so driving an EV in Norway is very cheap.
89% of Norwegian electricity is Hydro and 9% wind. Along with that and large reserves of gas there aren’t many countries in the same fortunate position as Norway’s population
There were very generous incentives to buy EVs in Norway for several years courtesy of their sovereign wealth fund built on the profits of their substantial offshore oil and gas fields. As well as generous subsidies these even included reduced road tolls, free municipal parking and access to bus lanes.
Once a critical mass was reached many of these incentives were reduced or withdrawn
The household income is $125,000 in Norway, plus they get hugely generous subsidies to buy EVs, etc., which makes it much less expensive to own and operate an EV in Norway, than a gasoline vehicle, especially in the south
Cold temperatures are rough on batteries. In fact most batteries can’t even be charged when the battery drops below 0C.
You charge a 0 C battery once, and you will deposit ions on the anode, because the anode cannot absorb them.
This coating of ions is not reversible, and will permanently decrease the output strength of the battery and its life.
If they were free I still wouldn’t want one.
I’d get one for my ex-wife. But only if she promised to only charge it in the garage.
Nasty.
Alice Weide is a lukewarmer, not a principled opponent of the Narrative. Not good enough.
Do you have a candidate that is better?
Regardless, lukewarmers are correct.
It is not my business telling Germans who is a better candidate. I do not want to be accused of American collusion.
Lukewarmers tend to degenerate into opportunistic position of scaling the parasitic climate industrial complex down, but not calling for putting a definitive end to NetZero madness. Perhaps humans do not cause much of climate change, but to be on a safe side, why not to switch from fossil fuels to renewables, if we are going to run out of FF soon anyway? They make statements like “market is not ready for EVs yet”, implying this is overall a good idea, just not implemented correctly and a little prematurely. BTW communists say the same thing about communism, I doubt it is a mere coincidence. They oppose dismantling climate industrial complex proposing instead finding a level at which it can “sustainably” drain society resources. They try to sit on both chairs and change their tune depending on what seem most profitable for their political carrier at the moment. If this is the best Germans have, it is their problem.
“To make matters worse for the German green movement, President Trump will certainly bring energy prices down in USA, and thus further exacerbate Germany’s economic uncompetitiveness. Germany’s needs to wake up from its green fantasies.”
If Trump cut oil prices by the amount he claims the US oil companies would be losing money on every barrel, not happening! During his last administration he got the Saudis and Russians to cut production so that the US producers could make more money.
I suppose the usual suspects will pop up to assure us that the fact that the total number of EVs is still increasing, proves how popular they are.
At least the deadenders can continue to cite Norway for EVs, and continue to omit the fact that it’s a rich oil & gas exporter and electricity exporter.
Hey that’s not fair-
Government urged to put brakes on fast EV charging plan | The Courier | Ballarat, VIC
We want a level playing field except for dumping fickle energy without FCAS on the communal grid of course.
You claim Trump will bring petrol prices down for certain.
What evidence do you bring to the table to make this claim?
In 2015 and 2016, when Obama, one of the most anti fosile fuel presidents in history fuel prices were lower than in 2017, 2018, 2019 and even 2020 when Trump’s destruction of the economy caused oil prices to go negative for a short time, prices on average were still higher than under Obama’s last years.
Oil production under Trump was decimated and it has been slowly recovering from that destruction.
So, again, what evidence do you have that Trump will lower fuel prices when evidence from history shows he never lowered fuel prices in his first term?
I see downvotes. What I do not see is a single person who can argue I am wrong. That is because I am not. Your feelz do not matter to me!