By Timothy G. NashJason HayesTom Rastin
Introduction
You don’t need a government agent to tell you what you want or when you want it.
Milton Friedman explained that “market processes” allow individuals to interact and exchange goods and services voluntarily. The prices they charge in these exchanges guide production and consumption decisions, ultimately leading to the most efficient resource allocations, maximized customer satisfaction, and increased purchasing power, and this all occurs with minimal need for government interference.
When it comes to electric vehicles, the absence of a “market process” has ignored consumers’ wants and needs and allowed consumer demand to be misinterpreted. Demand exists only when a consumer needs and/or wants a product and can afford it. However, when government mandates and subsidies push EVs instead of more desirable vehicles, we can’t tell if manufacturers are producing the optimal number of electric vehicles.
With the national debt ready to exceed $36 trillion, we know the federal government cannot continue spending recklessly. Whoever occupies the White House next will need to cut spending dramatically. We suggest they start by eliminating electric vehicle subsidies for producers and consumers.
Markets are sending strong negative signals on electric vehicles as American consumers are increasingly hesitant to purchase them. Government policies are, therefore, wasting tens of billions of dollars—soon, hundreds of billions or more—forcing this immature technology into a market where consumers are not ready to purchase.
Americans have many reasons to pause before purchasing an electric vehicle.
- Consumer Confidence
A recent Gallup survey showed that only 7% of Americans owned an EV. A further 9% were seriously considering a purchase, 35% reported they would consider buying an EV, and 49% were not interested in an EV (this includes 1% who had no opinion). This survey revealed an 11% decline in customer demand for EVs since 2023. The Gallup polling compounded the fact that most EV owners own at least one additional internal combustion engine vehicle. According to Edmunds, 40% of all electric vehicle trade-ins were used as down payments to purchase an ICE vehicle in the second quarter of 2024.
- Purchase Costs
Edmunds also reported that, in the first quarter of 2024, there was still a 42% gap between the average price of an electric and gasoline-powered car. That gap expands to 58.5% in the popular and relatively crowded SUV category. A compact electric SUV costs $53,048, while the equivalent ICE competitor’s manufacturers-suggested retail pricing is $35,722. The smallest gap in MSRP was 18% in the large pick-up truck sector, where EV pick-ups average $76,475.
- Range Anxiety
Range Anxiety is the fear of running out of battery power before reaching a destination due to limited battery range or insufficient charging infrastructure. Other factors influencing range anxiety include knowledge of charging locations, charging times, battery degradation, and changes in performance relative to weather conditions.
- Grid Capacity
EVs will strain an already overworked grid. Fleet charging requirements for larger batteries in delivery trucks and public transportation will compound this strain. Utilities will need to manage the complex timing and location of new EV charging infrastructure. Those complexities will be compounded by rushed transition timelines, like the Biden administration’s goal of EVs making up 67% of all new automobile sales in America by 2032. That burden will be compounded by the demand for electric power to supply AI, Bitcoin exchanges, and data centers.
- Safety concerns and weather conditions
Major safety concerns for EVs orbit around the potential for increased damages during crashes caused by the increased weight of EVs over ICE vehicles. Additional concerns exist over the changing nature of vehicle fires associated with lithium-ion batteries. Fires can be sparked by defects in the battery system, causing flammable and toxic gases to be released, damage to the battery system from a crash, or exposure to salt water due to floods or hurricanes. Electric vehicles tend to perform inconsistently, especially in climates with a wide range of temperatures (extreme heat or cold).
- Resale and/or trade-in value of EVs
The average American automobile, light truck or SUV, is 12.6 years old and rising, meaning the business for the U.S. aftermarket looks rosy. But, the prospect of purchasing a used EV causes concerns for many consumers. In 2024, electric vehicles are depreciating faster than ICE vehicles, and the ability to find a good service center to handle the list of growing maintenance needs is becoming more evident and costly. Finally, the realization that at trade-in, or the end of the useful life of an electric vehicle, its value could be negative. The notion of owning something that may have negative value is not endearing when considering a purchase.
- Rental car companies around the world are sending a signal on EVs
Over the past few years, many rental car users have pushed back on driving an EV, forcing European and U.S. companies to reduce their EV fleets. These companies report high repair costs, poor resale value, lack of customer charging centers, and the learning curve it takes to educate first-time users.
Conclusion
This list of reasons why consumers are hesitant about EVs is not exhaustive, but it does provide some clear reasons that companies and government regulators are moderating strategies to transition. Without government mandates and subsidies, it is highly unlikely that even 50% of consumers would choose an EV by the government’s arbitrary date of 2032.
There is a market for electric vehicles, but government mandates and subsidies—regulators predicting winners and losers—cause more harm than good. By forcing technology into widespread use before it is ready for primetime, governments are causing consumers to resist EVs. Instead, government regulators should allow consumer demand, competition, and the “market process” to guide EV adoption.
Dr. Timothy G. Nash is director of the McNair Center at Northwood University.
Mr. Jason Hayes is director of Environmental Policy at the Mackinac Center.
Dr. Tom Rastin is a retired business executive from Ohio.
This article was originally published by RealClearEnergy and made available via RealClearWire.
A no brainer. Biden was for EVs, and then we discovered watching the debate with Trump that he has no brain left—in the sense of severe cognitive impairment.
They didn’t make any sense in the 19th century either.
Well they did for a little while, being more user friendly than a gaggle of horses.
But soon something better came into the market –
more efficient, useful, economical, convenient to use ICE conveyances.
And the strange thing was – government edicts weren’t needed to get consumers to buy them.
Actually the alternative to BEVs was ICE automobiles, at least in the city where it was hard to keep horses. The problem with ICE was starting the car. They had to be cranked. Operating the hand crank was difficult and many women could not do it. and if the engine backfired it could rip your arm off. The invention of the electric self starter by Charles Kettering in 1911and it use by Cadillac obviated that problem and ICE vehicles drove BEVs out of the market.
I’m not quite old enough to witness the end of the overhead spiderweb of electric wires that powered the urban electric trollies, but they did offer significant advantages over the available alternatives (horse and steam power). Electric power is still the choice for some applications (subways), and diesel-electric (hybrid) trains are still popular.
Electric works on fixed route applications where rails can be used in place of wires. Electrified railways are simple. Electrified long haul trucking is not.
S.F. cable cars are also still in operation. Fixed routes, of course.
Early 20th Century. That was when my Great Grandmother owned a Baker Electric. She was born in 1879. Got married in 1899 and gave birth to my grandmother in 1900. She and her husband kept a country store at that time. He sold it and they moved to the city around 1910. That was when she owned the BEV.
When I remodeled our kitchen in 2015 (home built in 1889) I found newspapers in the wall used as insulation, mostly from 1910-12. I discovered that in addition to Baker Electric, there were (IIRC) four other electric car manufacturers in this area.
Fascinating stuff.
Demanding a shift to BEVs now is like requiring everyone to carry a 1980’s tech personal computer. The first Compaq “portable” weighed 28 pounds, and was probably less capable than some smartwatches.
The technology is not there yet, and no one has a clear concept of what is needed to make them viable, except for performance requirements no one has any idea of how to meet. Maybe, someday, but not right now. Or never.
I thought the Osborne ‘portable sewing machine’ was a good option for those early years.
I had one: not so much portable as luggable with cables worn round the neck.
The limiting factor is batteries, and the thing to note is that since the 1980s and the emergence of portable electronic devices, the manufacturers have been going all out to design and produce better batteries, for the better part of 40 years now.
I don’t think there’s much scope for improvement left, I don’t think there’s much scope to bring costs down either, until we run out of oil, I don’t think the technology will ever be economic.
Electric cars have been around since the 1890’s, and the same issues, range and recharge time means the various battery chemistries still do not quite work.
In fact the improvements made with respect to battery life, time between and speed of charging, have come mainly from developments in the device hardware and software.
Batteries are containers and as with all containers, how much they can hold is determined by their size. You can’t get a quart into a pint pot.
And rechargeable batteries unlike other containers in effect get smaller with use.
Battery fires. Enough said.
Rather than describe myself as EV hesitant I’d describe myself as a refusenik.
I’m an EV but also a new ICE refusenik. I don’t want a ‘Big Brother is watching you 24/7’ car .
Yes!! Thank you! Total invasion of privacy in “newtech” ICE vehicles – stay away, keep up repair and maintenence of “oldtech” vehicles and many will last a LOT longer. As usual, comes down to personal responsibility.
Agreed. My 21-year-old Explorer has all the new tech I can stomach. It is bad enough to have to pay the ransom every year to keep using it. To be told what to drive and do and have the increasingly demanding overseer crack the whip is simply too much for an experience, driving, which used to be the epitome of freedom.
Indeed. I can carry a can of gas to ensure I make it to the next station, or if I get locked in a traffic jam in sub-zero temperatures.
Even if I could afford the necessary accessories for home charging or assuming they were available to apartment dwellers like most of us are, the limitations of the technology cannot soon, or perhaps ever, be overcome so that the average person could comfortably risk the adventure.
But, we the deplorables, do not matter.
It is unlikely that EVs will ever make general sense. They are destined for narrow market segments, already saturating. There are three reasons.
Time to update your worldview
Electric vehicle battery prices are expected to fall almost 50% by 2026
https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/articles/electric-vehicle-battery-prices-are-expected-to-fall-almost-50-percent-by-2025
The Rise of Batteries in Six Charts and Not Too Many Numbers
https://rmi.org/the-rise-of-batteries-in-six-charts-and-not-too-many-numbers/
Global EV sales up 30.5% in September as China shines, Europe recuperates
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/global-ev-sales-up-305-september-china-shines-europe-recuperates-2024-10-14/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14014851/charts-electric-car-sales-SLUMPED-Volkswagen.html
If you look at my third link you can see the Q1 slump too, but they are so shameless to show how it developed after that.
They don’t quote Mr. Bean, though.
My bad… just saw that article the other day and assumed it was current. I would like to see the breakout of just EVs and not combined with hybrids. It only presents data for a bit of Europe for BEVs.
I have owned a true hybrid since 2007. Still going strong with no battery concerns. The problem with a plugin hybrid is that it solves BEV range anxiety but not battery life.
Plus when the battery isn’t charged you have a horrid choice between the same “forever fillup” as an EV or reliving the not-so-fond memory of the power of a Ford Pinto.
The battery life “problem” is an invention of your overactive imagination, not based on data.
Those batteries last forever?
They do not last as long as the head gasket on an 6 cylinder engine.
The first thing to go out on the several cell phones I have had is the battery. I didn’t imagine it.
Remove China from that graph and you have zilch in the way of an increase in sales.
Yep The IEA published their ‘World Energy Outlook 2024’ in October
They say over 7m electric vehicles were sold world wide in the first half of 2024 and expect the “share of electric vehicles in the total global fleet is likely to approach 5% by the end of 2024″. China was responsible for almost 80% of the growth
They also say
Sales of PHEVs increased 70% in China while BEVs rose by only 15%.
In the US Sales of PHEVs increased 25% whilst BEV sales rose 5%
https://www.drive.com.au/news/ev-sales-australia-first-nine-months-of-2024/
https://www.meathchronicle.ie/2024/11/01/electric-car-sales-slump-continues-in-october/
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/money/other/new-car-sales-up-10-but-ev-slump-continues/ar-AA1tlhod?ocid=BingNewsSerp
Well, I clicked on your first Goldman reference. You seriously misrepresent what it actually says—that by 2028 battery prices MIGHT come down enough to reach EV/ICE price parity. That still leaves range anxiety and used resale value as big problems.
EV advocate lying through his teeth?
Who’d have thunk it?
“MIGHT”.
MUN,
Explosion and fire at a large lithium-ion battery recycling plant in Missouri. It forced evacuations from nearby homes, and the 225,000 sq. ft. plant appears to be a complete loss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k3pNoHP-_w
I can’t help but ROFLMAO when you come here plugging EV’s after seeing that factory explosion and fire — regardless of sales trends in China.
Fun factoid. The plant is owned by Critical Minerals Recovery. I was curious as to whether they were recycling EV, consumer, or both. Turns out their server isn’t available. Probably burnt up despite the CMR available web blurb that they have ‘the most sophisticated fire suppression system in the world’. Oopsie.
So My Username, you must grind your teeth to stubs every night thinking about how much resale value your EV is losing as it charges overnight in your garage?
It’s been well observed that any mobile “asset” is really a “liability”, but the devaluation rate of used EVs is a shocker.
I think Losername only grinds his/her teeth if Trump wins.
It may be he is losing sleep worrying about his house burning down.
Bout time you figured out what the official narrative always is Mr.user.
1… are expected to…. yawn
2… RMI propaganda pap
3… China EVs more for the rubbish dump in 5-10 years
https://www.drive.com.au/news/ev-sales-australia-first-nine-months-of-2024/
https://www.meathchronicle.ie/2024/11/01/electric-car-sales-slump-continues-in-october/
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/money/other/new-car-sales-up-10-but-ev-slump-continues/ar-AA1tlhod?ocid=BingNewsSerp
That 30% represents a whopping 4% increase in market share
Oh and as for shining…more like glowing from the fires
In September 2024, global sales of electric vehicles (BEVs plus PHEVs) increased 32.5% year-on-year to 1.508 million units.
This broke the previous record set in December 2023.
Here are some other highlights from September 2024 EV sales:
China: Led EV sales with 1,115,000 units
(BEV) sales reached 644,000 units, which was 57.3% of all new energy vehicle (NEV) retail sales.
United States: Sold 127,000 units
United Kingdom: Sold 83,000 units
Norway: Led market share with 84.7%
Sweden: Second in market share with 59.5%
Finland: Third in market share with 54.2%
New EV days’ supply: Remained stable at 93, indicating steady demand
Average transaction price: For new EVs was $56,328, down 0.5% month over month
Average incentive package: For a new EV was over 12%, far higher than the industry average
Battery prices down 50% sounds like green reamers fantasy land.
Now think of a flood like in Valencia (Spain) where many EV’s would have been in the water for many days. It is estimated that between 5000 and 7000 cars are a complete loss because of water damage. Luckily EV market share is still low here, Most people don’t have $56,328 to invest in a new car.
China is a totally command driven economy from the top to the bottom. Take them out of the graph to visualize those economies where consumers have a choice of what to buy. Compare those volumes to ICE vehicles and you’ll get a better sense of what is going to happen next year.
“Expected”’. Climate Fantasy World seethes with expectations, like oil expected to run out within a decade – every decade since 1970, fossil fuels expected to be stranded assets – not, oil demand expected to fall – hasn’t, electricity prices expected to fall as more and more wind and are added to the mix – they persistently go up.
I expect we can expect the expectations to continue for some time.
I can never update my worldview enough to accept your apparent desire to believe in magic or to desire the dictatorship that you seem to espouse.
Remove all mandates, scare tactics, and artificial incentives, and see if the pig flies on its own. I doubt even you will buy tickets on that flight.
I hope that someone is working on a mostly organic fuel cell running on ethanol.
Methanol yes. Ethanol, not chemically possible without invention of a new catalyst.
I prefer non-toxic fuels 🙂
Water. Think hydro!
“They cannot hold used resale value because of limited battery life.” ISTVAN
Battery life is not limited
That is a conservative myth
Promoted by people who hate BEVs
Resale value is weak because few people want EVs. And there are irrational fears of short battery lives that do not match reality.
There is tremendous market…swoop up those batteries at cheap prices 😉
More Greene gaslighting.
Can you provide objective evidence that EV batteries don’t have a limited life?
If battery life is “not limited” that would make it “unlimited.” Which of course it is not. And the cost to replace when the time comes will by far exceed the value of the car.
So EVs, in addition to being an inferior product compared with ICE vehicles, are essentially disposable crap that won’t even provide a meaningful trade-in value for a “down-payment” on the EV’s replacement, which for the vast majority with a lick of sense will be an ICE vehicle or mild hybrid vehicle.
Battery life is limited. Whether it is 1000, 10000, 100000, or 1M recharge cycles, it is limited.
Furthermore, batteries are not easily or safely recycled. The jury is still out on what percentage of battery materials can be recovered and can be reused.
I was at a Ford dealer last month, looking for a specific build of a Super Duty pickup. The only way to get what I actually wanted was to special order it. The sales guy wanted to sell me an F-150 Lightning, as they had several on the lot. Pretty substantial discount if I would buy one… However, it doesn’t meet my requirements. The manager told me he can’t get more Super Duties on the lot until the EVs sell … and they are not selling.
I live in the U.S. pacific NW, and we have relatively inexpensive electric prices, and the power companies are really pushing solar installs. EVs still don’t work well for most people at our latitude and cloudy environment.
You could have stopped at “EVs still don’t work well.” No qualifying statements needed.
Aside from virtue signaling, there is no reason to trade a car that can travel long distances and be refueled in about five minutes for one that doesn’t go very far and takes, comparatively, eons to refuel, with a side of a nasty propensity to light itself on fire.
If I were in the market for a new vehicle, I would probably at least look at a gas/electric hybrid, and not the kind that needs to be plugged in.. However, that if is very big, since my 15 yo F-150, and nearly 20 yo Toyota Matrix are both running just fine, and life is sure easier without that monthly vehicle mortgage payment, thank you very much
I have owned a Ford Escape AWD plus Class 1 tow hitch full hybrid since 2007. The only hybrid related problem in now 17 years was a $25 battery compartment cooling fan replacement about 10 years ago. Go for it.
BTW, at my recommendation Charles Rotter owns a 2010–Mercury rather than Ford brand, basically the same vehicle. His is still going strong also. He just took me to a Vietnamese restaurant for dinner here in Fort Lauderdale in it two weeks ago.
Yes, there is a lot to be said for “mild hybrids”. Not over priced in relation to straight ICE, Significantly improved mileage. Mechanically simpler than plug ins. Prius or similar. The Prius lasts forever. Battery replacement is simple and fairly cheap, if you ever need it. No need for charging points. Have one, and like it a lot.
I had a 2011 Sonata hybrid till this past January [135K miles]. It was a nice vehicle..
I was worried about the 13 y/o battery but it was the transmission that failed. The cost of replacing the transmission was nearly the resale value of the used car. The Li battery was fine but the market for an old hybrid is small since few want to risk having to replace the battery soon after purchase. I get that. The dealer would not even take it as a trade-in. Lol
So to me, drive something you like till it falls apart and don’t expect much of a resale.
My 2006 Diesel F250 with 51K miles is doing great, in 2030 I would b willing to sell it assuming the nut zero folks are still pushing their plans. I am thinking it would be worth 10 times the original price. Maybe I should sell futures on it!
And both cars are not ‘Big Brother knows where I am 24/7 cars’.
3.a
There is no market case for widespread public chargers unlike petroleum and distillate.
There’s no market case for the EVs that need them either. When governments choose the winners and losers, the governed all lose.
To me, one of the biggest issues with used EV’s is the condition of the battery. Did the previous owner never rapid charge it to 100% or run it ’til full empty or did they beat it like a redheaded stepchild, thereby significantly reducing its life. I predict that at some point that EV manufacturers will provide some way of interrogating the battery to determine how much capacity is left. When that happens most used EV’s will be rather worthless.
Rather insensitive to redheads and step-children.
Virtually all used EVs are essentially worthless, when compared to their acquisition cost. And because of the high cost of the batteries, they are basically disposable.
Disney’s First Law is, “Wish and it will come true.” The support for EVs through incentives (both ‘carrot’ and ‘stick’ variety) seems to be those advocating managed economies to be hedging their bet on a wish.
When you wish upon a star…..
Red star – Wikipedia
Not necessarily, if the future government is dominated by the Democratic Party they will dramatically increase taxation, they admit it themselves.
It’s the one thing you can always count on democrats for. They raise taxes. Everytime.
“Tax tax tax, spend spend spend, elect elect elect” has been their mantra for over 100 years.
And the People get poorer and poorer. Maybe you have more dollars but what can you buy with them? The inflation tax kills the purchasing power of the dollar like snow on a hot summer day.
Democrat, definitely not Democratic.
I noticed that during the Vietnam War. Democrats think the Democrat Party stands for democracy. They are the least democratic party in existence. Prior to the Civil War, they supported slavery. The Whigs collapsed when the Kansas-Nebraska Act was passed. That act extended slavery to new Western states. The Republican party was formed from the remnants of the Whig party and various anti-slavery factions. They were never a third party. They came in second to Buchanan. And in the next election, Lincoln won. The Democrats are also the party of the KKK. Did you see Kamala trying to hang the KKK banner on ICE? It’s interesting that they managed to get most blacks to back them–through many, many lies. Notice that Republicans are called racists–sheer projection by the Democrats. It should be noted that the US is actually a Constitutional Republic–not exactly a pure democracy.
The greatest threat to democracy (per the Democrat’s definition) is restoration of our Constitutional Republic.
When they do, they will need to cut spending even more, since the usual reaction to excessive taxation is a reduction in both economic activity and government tax receipts.
Is there a more up to date math based discussion that this:(2017) ??
https://seekingalpha.com/instablog/28869285-blue-sky-sunshine/5006326-are-electric-vehicles-environmentally-friendly
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The Leaf would need to be driven 275,000 miles just to break even with the CO2 emissions of a “new” Camry. Since this exceeds the assumed vehicle life of 150k miles, we must conclude that the Leaf would NEVER achieve a net CO2 reduction, barring other changes
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In any case the environmentally friendly path forward would be to give incentives towards smaller fuel efficient cars, independent of the technology.
EVs typically do less than 9000 miles per year, or 72,000 miles in 8 years when the battery is performing at 75% of rated, due to aging.
Nothing can be done about, until new materials research points the way.
Neither Chinese BYD, nor Tesla have found that way yet.
BEV batteries lose about 20% of range over 20 years. NOT 25% in 8 years.
Probably about 12% in the first 8 to 10 years.
Source?
Bear in mind that battery decay is not linear, you can’t take the result from the first years of life, and extrapolate that for the next 20 years.
There’s a reason why the manufacturers offer an 8-year warranty.
Sure he can – everyone loves linear extrapolation. It is usually crap, but it is easy and makes for impressive statistics.
The EPA is in love with linear extrapolations. Most of their junk science regulations are based on them (see “linear no threshold.”).
According to a 2021 Volvo study, an electric vehicle (EV) like the XC40 Recharge would need to be driven roughly 70,000 kilometers (around 43,000 miles) to offset the higher manufacturing CO2 emissions compared to its gasoline-powered equivalent (XC40 ICE) due to the increased carbon footprint associated with battery production, meaning it takes a significant mileage to “break even” on emissions despite emitting zero tailpipe emissions while driving.
The numbers in your comment are nonsense.
Who cares about CO2 emissions? If I was rich enough to own a BEV I want to know how long the battery lasts.
The earth needs more CO2 not less.
While this article is right on target the take home message is that government is the last place to look for what works. If the government has to subsidize or mandate a product know that it can not compete with other choices on the market. It is a loser.
I was reading Thomas Sowell’s book “Basic Economics.” One of the stupid things our government does is subsidize sugar. SUGAR!!! So we have more sugar than we know what to do with. The argument is that it utilizes swamp areas that weren’t being used to grow sugar cane. However, it is actually using limited resources to grow more sugar. We are talking about workers, fuel, trucks, energy, etc. It’s diverting resources from other areas. And the world price of sugar would be lower without the government subsidies.With all this extra sugar, they are adding it to all of our foods as filler–more stupidity.
“A compact electric SUV costs $53,048, while the equivalent ICE competitor’s manufacturers-suggested retail pricing is $35,722.” FROM ARTICLE
This false claim is far from reality
The very popular compact Tesla Model Y is $44,990. or $37,490 after the $7,500 tax credit, NOT the claimed $53,048
The compact Toyota Corolla ICE is $22,050, NOT even close $35,722 for the claimed average ICE compact car.
These authors are so far off on these data, that take only one minutes to find with Google, that it is impossible to take them seriously on the subject of electric vehicles.
I saw a Rover P5 from the early 60s today, I wonder how many of today’s BEV’s are still going to be on the roads in the 2080s?
Google. Right.
Buying a car that I want and need has become impossible. All I want is a normal cheap hatchback. Not a driving computer and entertainment system. Why am I forced to buy a car with 80% features that I don’t use? For that reason I keep driving my current car as long as possible, the next might be an used car, the less things I don’t need the less things that can brake down and cost me money.
I agree that is why I love my 1953 Ford so much. It does everything I need a car to do and looks and sounds so cool doing it.The only electronics in the car is the vacuum tube radio. I added an aux input to the radio for my MP3 player. With the 6 volt system is also easy to make a USB recharge port with a three terminal 5 volt regulator and it won’t even need a heat sink for an amp and a half.
Economic illiteracy is strong in the ruling class.
Commie Harris claims she is a Capitalist.
In Germany, the first country to go “green”, EVs aren’t popular. Volkswagen plans to close ‘at least’ 3 German plants.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a62737852/volkswagen-financial-woes-german-plant-closures/
$140 margin per car is getting very squeezy-
Volkswagen Battles Crisis with Earnings Below $140 per Vehicle
If I were Ford with a normal ICE margin car retailing at $36000 they could have had a buy one get one free promotion rather than subsidising EV buyers-
Ford is losing $US36,000 on every electric car it builds
China makes a good, well appointed BEV that sells for $10;000.
That vehicle would kill much of the ICE market and wipe out a huge number of jobs in the US.
Adding a $30,000 tarrif to that vehicle would solve the disruption and each car sold could be $30,000 not collected via income tax.
There is simply no way to make that vehicle for that price using high cost energy, labor and regulation without $30,000 in subsidies. Better to use tarrifs not subsidies if you are a taxpayer. The difference is jobs.
Yep, Trump knows what he is doing.
I wouldn’t give anybody half that for a worse-than-useless EV. It will not “kill much of the ICE market” because *nobody wants them.*
What about people who live in an apartment or condo and can’t plug in where they park. Also most of the electricity used to charge an EV comes from burning fossil fuels and there is loss in the process.
Now one cannot park an EV within 50 feet of anything of value.
So, Commie Harris advocates women should have the liberty to choose what to do with their bodies, but the American people do not get the liberty to choose what they drive.
Such duplicity is what we face.
Personally, I agree with pro-choice, but I am anti-abortion for moral reasons.
The doctor when performing a medical procedure must act in accordance with the needs of both patients. In an abortion, there are 2 patients. Let us also play in the Constitutional Rights in a trial. The aborted baby is denied the right to trial before execution. My perspective and you need not agree.
It is appalling that people are calling for a Constitutional right to kill. That sets a precedent for future abuse and should follow the original Roe vs. Wade that stated clearly that there is no Constitutional right to an abortion.
Back to the original point. We either have liberty on all matters or we have none. The sole responsibility of the government is to protect the people from the government and this is being ignored massively.