Can American Conservation Survive ‘Green’ Energy?

By Portia Roberts

It’s summer, the ACs are cranking, SUVs are loaded, and families are hitting the road for beaches, forests, mountains, and National Parks. Thanks to our unique history of conservation and a culture of preservation, Americans have, for many decades, taken for granted their access to natural beauty. Reverence, even love of that natural beauty is epitomized by our country’s 400 National Parks, hundreds of miles of protected coasts, and 800 million acres of forest, only 40% of which falls under government management.

Organizations like Save the Bay and thousands more founded by concerned citizens serve to champion habitat restoration and protection. Indeed, such was the very foundation of the modern environmental movement spawning nonprofits that advocate for policy, educate, install oyster beds, guard sea turtles, clean woodlands, “save the whales,” remind drone operators about the negative impacts of unmanned vehicles on wildlife, and, of course, constrain or prevent drilling and mining projects to preserve species and habitats.

But now the environmental movement is at odds with itself. The movement’s full-throated embrace of so-called “green energy,” successfully amplified by unprecedented government mandates and subsidies, is leading to habitat-invading and beauty-destroying energy projects at scales that not only rankle onlookers but also those environmentalists still committed to stewardship and conservation—and would shock the founders of the preservation movement.

In California, a 2,300-acre solar project requires destroying thousands of 150–200 year-old Joshua Trees, also the habitat of endangered desert tortoises. Locals object. Officials approve. The power generated in the eastern part of the state will reportedly benefit communities hundreds of miles west. 

Disputes in Maine about where to put massive wind turbine projects pit environmental groups against conservationists intent on protecting wilderness and wildlife. Paradoxically, the state has the nation’s strictest mining laws, precluding any possibility of directly sourcing even a portion of the raw materials necessary to construct the turbines and solar panels slated for deployment to Maine’s electrical grid. Meantime inVermont a solar panel project that would cover 227 football fields of pristine landscape is being vigorously opposed.

These so-called “green” technologies, useful in generating intermittent power in discrete conditions and geographies, not only impact the visual environment but also have as yet unknown impacts on our environment when deployed at scale. However, we are starting to get some indications. 

Scientists are still studying impacts from massive off-shore wind installations on sea temperatures and marine life. Only now are some communities and environmental groups coming to terms with the monumental scale of non-recyclable plastic blade trash on the horizon as those turbines age out. Just this month at Vineyard Wind, a partial blade from a single Eiffel Tower-sized wind turbine failed, dropped into the ocean, and necessitated several beach closures. Add to this other newly discovered consequences such as, for example, studies showing that massive solar installations often proposed for the Sahara Desert would contribute to higher global temperatures. We also know large-scale solar installations cause loss of habitat, confuse birds, drive runoff, pollute waterways, degrade soil health, and disrupt animal migration.

Despite ample evidence that we should proceed with caution regarding industrial scale  deployment of land-invading green energy, the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) promises trillions to subsidize such projects. So-called green energy, with the notable exception of nuclear, is—from mine to deployment—extraordinarily land and resource intensive. Some environmental groups are beginning to raise alarms about both deep sea mining and expanding conventional mining for the vast quantities of critical materials needed for aggressive electrification and large-scale solar and wind projects.

In total acres used per megawatt, coal, natural gas, and nuclear power have tiny footprints compared to wind and solar. A solar power plant typically requires 5 to 10 acres per megawatt while a natural gas plant uses less than a half an acre per megawatt. These estimates don’t even account for the increases in land mined for the necessary metals and mining.

In the 100 years since modern environmental conservation began, we have become increasingly more efficient in the resources and land we use to supply energy. But now, ‘green’ energy policies come at the expense of far greater land and water use. ‘Green’ policies also ignore increased foreign resource dependence and environmental impacts overseas. The production of useful energy, which drives economic productivity, is always about tradeoffs. Americans are unlikely to tolerate increasingly obvious ‘green’ tradeoffs. 

A future with denser, cleaner urban footprints that preserve natural habitats requires that we continue to decrease the natural resources and land we consume, particularly with our population predicted to peak anywhere from 20 to 60 years from now. In addition to affordable cars, air conditioners, and smart phones, virtually all Americans want clean air and abundant, biodiverse seas and wide-open spaces our 19th-century forebearers helped to realize.  You can bet future generations will too. It’s in our nature. And our energy policies and choices should reflect that.

Portia Roberts is the Policy Director for the National Center for Energy Analytics and holds an MA from Johns Hopkins SAIS.  

This article was originally published by RealClearEnergy and made available via RealClearWire.

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July 29, 2024 2:13 pm

The American Enterprise Institute:

“Trump often says that a lack of drilling is what’s been driving “massive inflation.” “We’re going to drill, baby, drill, we’re going to bring down your energy costs,” he said at a rally last month. “We have the highest energy costs anywhere.”

“By any measure, this is nonsense. (To be sure, high gas prices contributed to inflation, but high inflation also helped drive up energy prices. This stuff is complicated.)”

“Trump often boasts that gas prices were $1.87 per gallon when he left office. They weren’t, but they did get that low in April 2020, only partly thanks to his energy policies. The COVID epidemic smothered demand for gas, thanks in part to his lockdowns.”

“Meanwhile, under Biden, domestic oil production has hit record highs, surpassing production under Trump and nearly doubling Saudi Arabia’s output. We’re the largest producer of natural gas by far, producing almost as much as the next three countries (Russia, Iran, China) combined.”

“Now one reason most people don’t know this is that the Biden administration doesn’t brag about surging fossil fuel production since Biden promised to wean the country off fossil fuels (also, much of this has nothing to do with Biden’s misguided energy policies anyway). But that’s part of the problem, too. Many Democrats want Biden’s “war on fossil fuels” rhetoric to be true as much as Republicans do. It’s easy for politicians to mislead when so many people want to be misled.”

‘The Dangerous Lie Behind Trump’s “Dictator for a Day” Comments’
https://www.aei.org/op-eds/the-dangerous-lie-behind-trumps-dictator-for-a-day-comments/

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ferdberple
Reply to  scvblwxq
July 29, 2024 5:13 pm

what’s been driving “massive inflation.”
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imagine the government gave everyone a “free” billion dollars. That would solve poverty yes? but how much would a loaf of bread cost? which billionaire would go to work to bake the bread?

Unless the government grows the economy faster than it hands out money, inflation and poverty will be the end result. There is no free lunch.

You need a surplus to build roads, schools, bridges, police, defense, health-care. And the accountants name for surplus is profit.

Yet the government would have us believe that people that have never turned a profit in their lives can somehow spend our tax dollars better than we can.

Reply to  ferdberple
July 30, 2024 4:29 am

“And the accountants name for surplus is profit.”

Anathema to Kommies.

Reply to  scvblwxq
July 30, 2024 4:26 am

“high inflation also helped drive up energy prices”

it’s high energy prices that drove up inflation- along with massive budget deficits

Reply to  scvblwxq
July 30, 2024 4:27 am

“under Biden, domestic oil production has hit record highs”

not because of him- despite him- and it would have been much higher with Trump

SteveZ56
Reply to  scvblwxq
July 30, 2024 6:45 am

Whoever wrote this for the “American Enterprise Institute” has probably been making deals with Hunter Biden.

Biden’s policies of shutting down the Keystone XL pipeline, reducing drilling leases, and providing massive subsidies to wind and solar have sparked inflation in many ways.

Increases in the cost of petroleum products and natural gas not only affects automobile travel (with the price of gasoline), but it also makes truck and rail transport of freight more expensive, and increase the wholesale cost of goods delivered to retail stores (including grocery stores), who then pass along these costs to the consumers. Airlines also have to recuperate the increased cost of jet fuel, which contributes to higher prices for flights. It also becomes more expensive for people living in northern states to heat their homes in the winter.

The Biden administration’s push toward subsidizing electric cars has exacerbated the problem, since most electricity is generated from coal and natural gas, and electricity used to recharge cars is not available for other uses, which puts a strain on the electrical grid and tends to raise electric bills.

The administration has tried to artificially drive down gasoline prices by periodically raiding the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, but this was intended to provide fuel for the military in the event of foreign attack, or even an emergency such as a hurricane which temporarily shuts down oil production in the Gulf of Mexico. In the event of a real emergency, the United States may face a serious fuel shortage due to Biden’s short-sighted draining of the SPR for political points. Even when it is full, the SPR could only supply America’s oil needs for about 30 to 45 days, depending on consumption by the military.

While not all inflation is due to the Biden administration’s energy policy, if a future Trump administration actively promoted development of petroleum and natural gas resources, eliminated the subsidies for wind and solar, and allowed market forces (not “electric mandates”) to guide the automotive industry, the inflation rate would probably be cut in half by the end of 2025. The remainder would have to be wrung out by a more sensible fiscal policy and spending cuts by Congress.

Reply to  scvblwxq
July 30, 2024 7:43 am

Understand what inflation is. It is not rising prices.

Inflation is growing (inflating) the money supply faster than the rate of growth of the true GDP. Any money created in excess of the true GDP devaluates the currency which in turn causes prices to rise.

Rising prices are a consequence/symptom of inflation.

Reply to  Fraizer
July 30, 2024 10:05 am

Inflation is defined as too many dollars chasing too few goods. As noted, rising prices are the result, not the cause.

Your explanation of how that happens is fine except for ignoring the fact that all dollars added to the economy in excess of any GDP growth are fiat currency. There was no value created from goods production to justify the additional printing of the fiat currency in circulation. Value is what counts in exchange of currency for goods and services.

Michael S. Kelly
Reply to  doonman
July 30, 2024 11:50 pm

“…all dollars added to the economy in excess of any GDP growth are fiat currency.”

That’s obsolete terminology. Today we say that all dollars added to the economy in excess of any GDP growth are Stellantis currency.

Reply to  Fraizer
July 30, 2024 11:24 am

Understand what inflation is.

People have been conditioned to NOT understand.

Tom Halla
July 29, 2024 2:14 pm

The Green Blob also does not care about wildlands management, having the delusion that “leaving it alone” is adequate. The “pristine” terrain in Australia and North America were actively managed by the indigenous people since the end of the last Ice Age.

Reply to  Tom Halla
July 30, 2024 4:30 am

They are now demanding to lock up all forests- not just in wilderness areas and national parks. They say that it might not be possible to get to 100% net zero- close but not 100%, so they need to find a some process that is carbon negative- voila, forests! Lock’em up!

Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
July 30, 2024 8:59 am

Its cheap to let trees grow to store carbon for 80 years or so, and demand is there by rich folks to have their dream home in enchanted forest… Not so cheap to fight the additional forest fires….

Reply to  DMacKenzie
July 30, 2024 9:26 am

Most forest owners- and I’ve had a few hundred as clients- want that nice check they can get every few decades from a timber sale. If the state and enviros restrict logging, it’s illegally a “taking” the way I see it. Then the state should have to pay the owner the amount they could have gotten from the timber harvest.

I’ve had some very, very, very wealthy clients- one was a billionaire. He also liked $$$ from timber sales. They all liked the $$$.

A forest can be more enchanting if it gets a proper “improvement cut” because most have been butchered in the past (we call it high grading- they took the best and left the rest). A proper cut will try to reverse that- take the worst and leave the best- then the next harvest will be very profitable.

Reply to  Tom Halla
July 30, 2024 8:55 am

Setting fires to flush out game is NOT active forest management. Who knows how many neighboring tribes were burnt out by such a hunting strategy ?

Tom Halla
Reply to  DMacKenzie
July 30, 2024 9:40 am

That is not the purpose of using fire to manage brush. One wants fairly young bushes for deer or similar browsers to eat, and open enough to hunt them.

Bryan A
July 29, 2024 2:23 pm

Conversion to Green Energy will require
50 times more Global Copper Mining for ICV/EV replacement
160 times more arable land usage for Solar Power to replace conventional power
480 times more arable land usage for Wind Power to replace conventional power
5000% more Lithium mining and processing for needed batteries in allotted timeframe
3000% more quartz mining for Solar PV manufacturing
30 times current coal mining for cooking coal to refine Silica into Silicon and structural steel for wind masts
Increases in other materials mining
…Neodymium
…Cobalt
…Nickel
…Tungsten
Increases in Oil and Gas drilling and refinement for Petrochemical stocks for
…Lightweight EV components
…Lightweight Wind Turbine Blades
…increased synthetic Rubber production (EVs go through tires every 15-20,000 miles)
…increased Asphalt production (EVs tear up road surfaces faster)
Increased tire wear and quadruple usage over 80,000 miles equals 4 times the microplastic waste washing into the environment
Increased cost of plastics and other petrochemical derivatives as gasoline was a waste product of petrochemical refinement and will become a costly unrecoverable waste product with no ICV usage outlet to recover costs. Other Petrochemical products will have to absorb those costs.

July 29, 2024 3:24 pm

There are two dangerous lies being promoted by many scientific organisations, government entities and private interests benefiting from market distortion.

A. Atmospheric CO2 can alter the global energy balance.
B. So called “Renewable Energy” is the cheapest form of energy production.

Neither are true.

It is unlikely the promotors of these lies will ever suffer the consequences because they are sucking the life blood out of productive sections of the community to benefit their own circumstances. They will avoid the squalor their lies are leading the broader community into.

Rud Istvan
July 29, 2024 3:43 pm

True personal story. The WH130 (Wisconsin Highway 130) old (now paved, formerly gravel) road that after coming 2.5 miles down WCounty C connects my Uplands dairy farm to WH12 (south to the Iowa County seat Courthouse and the all important Farm and Fleet, Ford tractor and truck dealers, and Walmart) runs along the top of a major ridge running roughly east/west. The next easily visible major roughly E/W ridge to the west was recently despoiled by a number of massive wind turbines. Not only do they ruin an otherwise very rural landscape, their construction ruined that formerly heavily wooded farm ridge far more than narrow old two lane WH130 did to ours, winding since very long ago thru century plus old farm fields and woodlots.

BTW, my beloved dairy farm is so remote that the nearest cell service to this day is the Frank Lloyd Wright Talliisin visitor center parking lot just before WH12 north crosses the Wisconsin River into Spring Green. One more reason I love it—the remote farm automatically shuts out the digital on demand world. Rejoice in the real world where you can do an honest day’s manual work harvesting vital winter firewood or fixing pasture fences undisturbed.
(Of course, I also have a somewhat slow DSL and a very expensive rooftop digital TV antenna carefully aimed at the tallest Madison broadcast tower 40 miles away, both for when I wish to reconnect on my terms.)

J Boles
Reply to  Rud Istvan
July 29, 2024 4:55 pm

Rud, a long shot here, been wanting to ask you this, did you know my brother’s late father in law, a Veroqua, Wisconsin dairy farmer, Martin Overbo?

Bob
July 29, 2024 4:05 pm

Wind and solar energy have nothing to do with science or the climate. They are vehicles for people who don’t like fossil fuel and nuclear to attack these industries. They are vehicles for the CAGW crowd to achieve power and control. Wind and solar have no redeeming values the same as the CAGW crowd.

Reply to  Bob
July 29, 2024 6:03 pm

Maybe the CAGW crowd will change its mind about nuclear.

Chinese pebble-bed reactor passes “meltdown” test
https://www.ans.org/news/article-6241/china-pebblebed-reactor-passes-meltdown-test/

New testing done at China’s Shidaowan nuclear power plant has confirmed its ability to be naturally cooled down, an industry-first milestone for achieving commercial-scale inherent safety, according to researchers.

The Shidaowan plant, a demonstration high-temperature, gas-cooled reactor with a pebble-bed module (HTR-PM), went into commercial operation last December.

Shidaowan’s twin 100-MW units house tiny uranium capsules encased in graphite shells about the size of billiard balls (dubbed “pebbles”), which make the energy density of the fuel much lower than in a traditional nuclear reactor with fuel rods. In the pebble design, the nuclear fission reaction occurs more slowly than in conventional reactors, but the fuel can withstand higher temperatures for longer and the heat resulting from the fission reaction is dispersed, enabling a passive cooling process.

“The results of the tests manifest the existence of commercial-scale inherent safety for the first time,” according to findings published in the journal Joule.

Reply to  scvblwxq
July 30, 2024 4:36 am

“Maybe the CAGW crowd will change its mind about nuclear.”

I bet a few will but most won’t. Here in Wokeachusetts, the green blob utterly detests nuclear- having succeeded in shutting down most in the region. They’d much prefer destroying fields, forests and whale habitat for “green” energy.

mal
Reply to  scvblwxq
July 30, 2024 7:28 am

The US demonstrated this technology in the early 90s, Bill Clinton shutdown the demonstration reactor and anymore federal money into said project and research. I get very angry when this is present as first as new and a breakthrough. We should be using this tech since it well over thirty years old.

Laws of Nature
July 29, 2024 4:45 pm

>> But now the environmental movement is at odds with itself.
Actually, I don’t think so, it is just that there is a name missing for those very concerned citizens, who do not care about the local environment, while they are hellbent to stop climate change (supposedly by limiting anthropogenic CO2-production).
These people are simply not-environmentalists, even if they might not even know that themselves.

I am not sure how to call them, they are not climate alarmists either, they are already fully alarmed and do not want to share or hear any message, or- god beware- facts, but spring into action.
Harris is one of those btw.

Reply to  Laws of Nature
July 29, 2024 4:53 pm

Pick your poison.

Trump just said if he is elected Americans won’t have to vote anymore.

Reply to  scvblwxq
July 29, 2024 7:33 pm

Still found no cure for your TDS, I see.

He did not say that.

He said that if the Dems get back in their might not be elections ever again.

Reply to  bnice2000
July 29, 2024 8:08 pm

Link?

Google it and see for yourself. It’s the top news story of the last two days.

‘Trump tells Christian voters they “won’t have to vote anymore” if he is elected in November’
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-christian-voters-turning-point-action/

‘Trump urges Christians to vote: ‘You won’t have to do it anymore’
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/27/politics/video/trump-christian-vote-vinjamuri-nr-digvid

‘Trump Tells Christians They Won’t Have to Vote After This Election’
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-07-27/trump-tells-christians-they-wont-have-to-vote-after-this-election

‘Trump urges Christians to vote, says they won’t have to again if he wins 2024 election’
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/27/trump-christians-wont-have-to-vote-again

In December Trump said he would be a dictator for a day. That’s long enough to get rid of Congress and the Supreme Court.
‘Donald Trump repeats comment he would be a dictator ‘for one day’ if reelected in 2024′
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2023/12/11/donald-trump-dictator-one-day-reelected

Nikki Haley was the candidate I favored.

Reply to  scvblwxq
July 30, 2024 4:39 am

Even if it he did say and meant it- he can’t stop elections even if he wanted to. Besides, he could die in the next 4 years. He’s old and not terribly healthy.

mal
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
July 30, 2024 7:30 am

He can still out golf most golfers half his age.

Reply to  mal
July 30, 2024 8:36 am

You don’t have to be healthy to play golf unless you carry your bags around 18 holes. He may not be ill but he’s not terribly healthy either.

JonasM
Reply to  scvblwxq
July 30, 2024 9:19 am

I watched that part of the interview. He definitely did not mean what the media says he meant.
The discussion was about the Christian right, and their apparent propensity to not vote. Trump said that he wants to convince them to vote this time, to get him into office. Once he shows the rest of the US how much better the economy and life in general is under his administration, he expects an overwhelming majority to vote conservative next time, which means the Christian right fringe doesn’t have to come to the polls next time. There will be enough voters to keep Republicans in power.
Any other interpretation of his statements is just TDS in action.
Not sure I fully agree with his statements, but they were totally clear in context.

Reply to  scvblwxq
July 30, 2024 10:19 am

Watch the recorded clips of Trumps speeches to see what Trump says. Then you can decided first hand what Trump says.

Quoting media reports about what Trump says is a waste of time. Journalists are paid to report the biased opinion of their bosses, not the news of events as they actually happen.

Reply to  scvblwxq
July 30, 2024 11:29 am

Do you trust CNN, CBS, and USA Today to report accurately about climate?

Reply to  Tony_G
July 30, 2024 5:19 pm

CNN et al are where TDS sufferers go to get their anti-facts and leftist propaganda and opinions.

A large part of the insidious and seemingly incurable TDS disease.

Reply to  Tony_G
July 30, 2024 5:27 pm

Certainly NO-ONE with even a single working brain cell would trust any comment they made about Trump.

scvblwxq is basically just a parrot nailed to a perch, ala Monty Python.

Reply to  bnice2000
July 31, 2024 12:48 pm

You tried to deceive the WUWT viewers with a false claim. Shame no you.

Reply to  scvblwxq
July 30, 2024 5:24 pm

What Trump is saying is they in four years he will be able to destroy all the Democrat voting maleficence, that delivered such a fake result in 2020.

Sorry you don’t have the brains to comprehend that.

Reply to  bnice2000
July 30, 2024 11:28 am

Don’t expect sc to understand context.

Trump was talking to people who usually don’t vote, essentially telling them that after this election they won’t have to vote again. The essence of the message was “Get out and vote THIS time so I can make things better, then you can go back to sitting out elections”

Reply to  Tony_G
July 30, 2024 5:28 pm

scvblwxq is basically just a parrot nailed to a perch, ala Monty Python.

Regurgitating prattle is its thing !

Reply to  bnice2000
July 31, 2024 1:04 pm

I never claimed to be an on the scene reporter. That’s why I give the readers the link so they can look at the material themselves.

You make up stuff and present it to the WUWT readers as fact. What’s your excuse?.

Reply to  scvblwxq
July 31, 2024 1:19 pm

**I** make stuff up and present it as fact? You need a good look in the mirror.

I notice that you still won’t answer all the challenges to your oft-repeated (bot) claims. You are called out every time, but never respond. Why is that?

ferdberple
July 29, 2024 4:56 pm

Reverend Moon, when asked where the money would come from to build his temple remarked, “from where ever it is now”.

When asked were the energy would come from to build all the windmills and solar panels required for green energy, the politicians said “from all the green energy we are building”.

Reply to  ferdberple
July 30, 2024 4:40 am

I’ve had EV owners tell me they’re helping to save the planet, not realizing that most electricity, even here in Wokeachusetts, is not green.

ntesdorf
July 29, 2024 5:13 pm

The ‘Environmental Movement’ has engendered the Battle-of-the-Idiots.

John Hultquist
July 29, 2024 8:31 pm

Meanwhile, under Biden, …”

Meanwhile, despite Biden and … {There – fixed it for you.}

observa
July 29, 2024 9:30 pm

Have you got a shortcut in your brain deplorable?

Australians blame wind, solar for high power bills as media campaigns take hold | RenewEconomy

Good grief somebody must have hard-wired them that correlation is causation.

observa
July 30, 2024 3:27 am

Steve Nowakowski’s exposure of proposed wind turbine rollout in Queensland getting some traction in the MSM media now-
Environmentalist reveals more than 17,000 wind turbines are being proposed for the nation (msn.com)
His Youtube video of what’s going on is pretty damning and it will feed in directly to the upcoming Federal election debate over nukes vs fickles.

Reply to  observa
July 30, 2024 4:44 am

it actually says “17,119 wind turbine projects”

so, is it projects or turbines? Probably projects- since 17 K wind turbines would hardly get Australia to net zero

July 30, 2024 4:24 am

“But now, ‘green’ energy policies come at the expense of far greater land and water use. ‘Green’ policies also ignore increased foreign resource dependence and environmental impacts overseas.”

There is now a movement to stop or at least drastically cut back on forestry work- all of it, not just poor forestry practices- for the purpose of having forests with one focus- sequester carbon. Of course people will still want wood products so yes, it’ll come from other nations which are less likely to do it well. This new vision for forests is called proforestation. The #1 visionary for this is William Moomaw, here in Wokeachusetts, formerly an editor or reviewer for the IPCC. He’s a chemist and he thinks he understands forests. He doesn’t. Not a clue. I’ve tried discussing forest issues with him but he refuses. After all, I only have a BS in forestry and 50 years experience. And, not from an Ivy League school. Apparently, he only talks to PhD’s gotten at those schools. And, he lives in a nice 4,000 sq. ft. home, mostly made of wood of course. The state government here calls their vision of forestry “climate smart forestry” which means cut far lighter and far less often. Of course that will kill forestry because such a system is uneconomic- the meaning of which escapes such burro-crates.

mal
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
July 30, 2024 7:33 am

The funny part of such educated idiots, do they not understand wood used in housing is sequestering carbon?

July 30, 2024 8:14 am

I can imagine a future (although I don’t think it’s physically possible) where everyone lives in cities with indoor farming in controlled environments and all the land not in cities completely covered with solar panels and wind turbines, with only a few “national parks” reserved for “nature”.

Worse, though, is that I can easily believe that there are a lot of people who would see that as a good thing.