By P Gosselin
The Chinese Academy of Sciences found that the Antarctic cold spells shattered records amid global heat waves in late winter 2023, something we never heard from the mainstream media.
Image: NASA (public domain)
In report appearing in the online PhysOrg journal, 2023 “brought an unexpected twist with extreme cold events in Antarctica” – according to a new study published in Advances in Atmospheric Sciences.
“Record cold temperatures were observed in our Automatic Weather Stations (AWS) network as well as other locations around the region,” said Matthew A. Lazzara of the Antarctic Meteorological Research and Data Center at the University of Wisconsin-Madison (UW-Madison). “These phases were marked by new record low temperatures recorded at both staffed and automatic weather stations, spanning East Antarctica, the Ross Ice Shelf, and West Antarctica to the Antarctic Peninsula.”
Kunlun Station recorded its lowest temperature ever observed at -79.4°C, nearly 5°C colder than the old record.
“These extreme cold events were unprecedented and had significant operational impacts,” said David E. Mikolajczyk, the corresponding author of the study.
Read entire article here.
Hat-tip: Klimnachrichten
The earth is currently in a 2.5 million year old ice age called the Quaternary glaciation. One should expect cold records to be set in Antarctica all the time since reliable measurements have only been made there since 1958. That’s 66 recording years out of 2.5 million non recorded years. This blink of an eye is hardly a representative sample of reality for claiming that any record tempertures were actually shattered.
All one can say in truth is Shadoobie, shattered, shattered and have a good laugh.
What would the normal rate of broken temperature records be on a ‘healthy planet?’
Even if we accept surface temperature measurements, we can’t know the answer beyond the start of recorded history, so we lack the perspective to judge what is truly normal.
Therefore, why are these measurements given so much attention? They mainly seem to reflect the short duration of our recorded history and, to a lesser extent, long-term warming.
“so we lack the perspective to judge what is truly normal.”
That’s the bottom line.
Can ‘normal’ be said of any state in a chaotic system?
That is the real issue.
People are using ‘normal’ climate as it there was or ever could be such a condition. The record shows there is no such thing.
It’s simply an invention of non- and pseudo – scientists to make a point about ‘man made’ as opposed to natural climate change.
I’ve not seen “normal” weather in 69 years. Climate cupcakes apparently think the planet is analogous to a giant shopping mall.
Ditto Warm records. The 2.5 million period referred to vs thermometer records back only 150 years is ~ the same probability.
So what about Thwaites, galloping to the sea, could raise sea levels 20 feet…blah blah.
Oops, the glacier is 400 km long and wide trying to get to the ocean through an 80 km wide front. So it moves relatively fast…but it is blocked by a couple of islands if it moves much more out to sea…it’s twice as thick as the bay is deep so it’s not going far….basically everything you read about it is highly exaggerated bullshit.
You forgot the volcanoes
Thwaites
https://images.app.goo.gl/wbspKxjS3MPMSNEz6
Gosselin says:
“Kunlun Station recorded its lowest temperature ever observed at -79.4°C, nearly 5°C colder than the old record.”
But the source says
“The highest point, Kunlun Station, recorded its lowest temperature ever observed at -79.4°C, which was about 5°C lower than the monthly average,”
Good spot.
The article also says ;-
“Interestingly, at the same time, record-breaking high temperatures were occurring in South America, which is relatively close to Antarctica.”
In Chile, temperatures soared close to 40°C (104°F), while Rio de Janeiro broke a 117-year-old heat record.’
For those of you wondering how close Rio de Janeiro is to Antarctica, it is ‘relatively close’
“Rio de Janeiro is to Antarctica, it is ‘relatively close’”
ROFLMAO….. That was a really stupid comment !
Rio is at about 23S latitude. !!
It is nowhere near the Antarctic !
It probably looks quite close on his 8 inch diameter desk globe. Just a couple of inches!
It’s only 3,972 miles away. Practically walking distance!
I think Steven might have been avin’ a laff.
Relative to what? Saturn?
And Los Angeles is “relatively close” to Death Valley. Yet, Los Angeles has never had a temperature recorded that is “relatively close” to the record in Death Valley.
Poor Nick-
recorded its lowest temperature ever observed at -79.4°C
Get over it. !
He’s probably used to the temperature swings we see in the middle latitudes, where the temperature ranges 30 degrees or more from dawn to 2 PM. That’s because we have the sun showing up everyday. Of course, that doesn’t happen in either the Artic Circle or the Antarctic Circle during their respective winters, so temperatures won’t vary so widely.
Seems obvious….
You just gave a good example of why “monthly averages” should include a variance/standard deviation. Why do you never quote one with your averages?
For exactly the same reason that confidence intervals are never shown on climate models. Tells you everything you need to know. How this can be called science is beyond me.
Remember, Antarctica has been measured to reach late winter temperatures lower than this: -90 degrees Celsius and below. The sublimation point of CO2 at 1-atmosphere pressure is -78.5 Celsius. So why aren’t there big blocks of solid CO2 all over the place there? There’s just too darn little CO2 in the air, that’s why — there or anywhere else on Earth — to condense out. More importantly, physical effects of CO2 doing any major things anywhere on Earth, condensing out as a solid or somehow magically absorbing and then scattering Earth’s heat back down on it, can’t be expected to happen because, among other reasons, there is too little of it in the atmosphere to cause such effects. The only counter-example is photosynthesis — a biological phenomenon that has substantial effects even at the very low 0.04% level of CO2 in our atmosphere. Other than that, it’s ridiculous to expect CO2 at these low percentages to do much of anything, anywhere on this Earth — it’s as if it doesn’t exist.
David Solan
“it’s as if it doesn’t exist.”
Which is why, whenever you ask for empirical scientific evidence of CO2 warming…
…. no-one can produce any, even after 50 or so years of manic caterwauling.
Absolutely correct.
Why on earth would ‘the mainstream media’ report record low temperatures at a few weather stations in Antarctica when, globally, temperature records were being shattered in both July and August 2023?
What is the more newsworthy event?
A warm record by 0.01C is far more “newsworthy ” to the far-left msm. !
You do know last year had a strong El Nino event don’t you, yet still the Antarctic set new cold records.
Still waiting for any evidence of human causation. (except temperature at really bad URBAN sites)
Globe has been far warmer than 2023 for a most of the last 10,000 years.
Stop your idiocy chicken-little panicking . !
Below is the UAH global average temperature anomaly map for August 2023, which at +0.7 C above average was by far the warmest August globally in the UAH record.
You see all those warm colours, the yellows, oranges and reds that cover the vast majority of the globe?
Well, get your NoTrickZone spectacles on and they’ll suddenly disappear!
All you can see with the NTZ specs on is the relatively small blue area at the bottom of the map.
It’s magic!
Here is a better projection for surface average anomaly. The color is exact for stations, shading in the triangles between. It seems more than half was cold, but much of the rest very warm.
Oh dear, Nick’s mummy has given him a new set of crayons. !!
Yes Nick.. there was a strong EL Nino event.
Thanks for confirming that point !.
I have modified your image slightly. I have added a green ellipse circling some very high change anomalies. What are the absolute temperatures? Are they warm enough now to melt ice?
It appears the area of warming is smaller than the area of cooling. Is that correct? If so, should the whole area be shown as close to 0 change?
You can look them up at GHCN. I use the unadjusted values. It is midwinter, so they won’t be melting ice.
In that month, August, the warming area is less than the cooling area, and the continent was below zero anomaly (colder than usual for August). Here is the picture for the other month mentioned here, July:
Probably positive average anomaly for the whole region.
I’ll ask again;
What are the absolute temperatures? Are they warm enough now to melt ice?
You are saying those areas are warm, not me. Show how hot they are.
Better yet what is the standard deviation of the absolute temperatures and the baseline temperatures? Are the anomalies within the standard deviations?
You want to talk temperature? Then let’s talk temperature measurements and their analysis.
The Antarctic sea ice extent reached a record low maximum in 2023 followed by a record minimum in the summer, looks like a reasonable possibility that the max will be around the record low again this winter.
It looks to me like your simplistic interpolation doesn’t take elevation (lapse-rate!) into account, or topographic barriers, or proximity to open ocean and its temperatures. Instead of filling in the lines with crayon colors, you need to build a model to take into account the things I mentioned.
ROFLMAO.. and the fungal infection chooses a month when the El Nino was in full swing
Thus completely agreeing why my post.
How many feet can you fit in you stupid gob at once, fungal ??
Let’s look at Spain before the EL Nino, shall we.
And still, ABSOLUTELY ZERO EVIDENCE OF HUMAN CAUSATION.
You are a moron, fungal !!
“chooses a month when the El Nino was in full swing”
It is the month this article is about. It is in the headline in big letters
“July-August, 2023”
Idiot… the El Nino started in May-June.
By July-August, the transient was well on its way.
The fungal infection is using the El Nino, thus proving my point
It has been a very long El Nino event hasn’t it.
Do you have any evidence of human causation?
Your point is .. as usual.. utterly pointless.
Gosselin wrote an article about cold events in Antarctica in July-August 2023. Again, it’s in the headline, in big letters. It is what we are invited to discuss. TFN showed us what was really happening in August 2023. He didn’t choose that month. Gosselin and WUWT did.
The topic is Antarctica, the fungal infection tried to make it about the whole globe, despite knowing that the planet was under the effect of a strong El Nino.
Don’t you find it interesting that Antarctica still set record lows despite that strong El Nino?
I notice you still totally avoid the main point..
Do you have any evidence of human causation?
And that’s your problem.
You don’t stop to think. Too busy rolling on the floor laughing your… (straight jackets will do that to you).
As Nick mentions, and as anyone with a functional brain in their head will realise, I was responding to the months referred to in the latest silly NTZ article.
If this site is in financial difficulty, as it appears to be judging by the latest funds appeal, then that is in no small part down to the fact that its primary cheerleaders on the comments are imbeciles, such as your good self.
People see the sort of abusive, incoherent nonsense you come out with and they just laugh. Not with you; at you.
Keep it up. Let’s see how low the WUWT comments per post become in the coming months (if it has months).
You are a moron.. you don’t have a functional brain.
You were the one brought up the warmth elsewhere when the topic was a record cold in Antarctica. It was irrelevant.
You KNOW that warmth was from the El Nino event.
You KNOW you have no evidence of human causation.
Look at the imbecilic rant you put forward to hide that fact.
You’re keeping it up, lol! Even I underestimated your stupidity.
WUWT: behold your finished product…
This idiot and his ilk are the reason you are haemorrhaging readers.
That and your continued interface with reality.
Poor fungal infection… nobody under-estimates your stupidity…
Everyone knows it is infinite. !
Still trying to pretend to itself that the 2023 El Nino warming was anything but natural..
Still yapping mindlessly in a gormless attempt to avoid the question of human causation.
What a sadly pathetic little monkey.
“the reason you are haemorrhaging reader”
Except he’s not… You are WRONG, as always…
Let’s look at the first 2 posts in this sub-thread.
fungal infection.. NEGATIVE 20
… for your idiotic diversionary tactics away from the Antarctic topic and attempting to use the non-human-caused El Nino as a crutch.
B.nice .. POSITIVE 19..
For drawing attention to your denial of the non-human-caused El Nino.
You are the one totally divorced from reality.
Perhaps if you actually got some basic education, you might not be that way.
Well, because ‘record temperatures’ are used to connect them with melting glaciers and icecaps at the poles and ( rapid) sea level rise. That alarm/panic system needs to continue to be able to implement Co2 emission reduction and carbon credit system policies that the big financiers love to control the population. And it seems that anything that supports the alarm is being highlighted and anything that counters it ignored. It is actually quite a simple system..
On a side note: the Big financial players who head the Fed and the BIS play ball with this and use it to weaponise their idea of ending private property which the neo marxist of course also like.
‘You will own nothing and be happy’ is kind of a joke (but not really).
By tying everything together (assets, deposits and derivatives) they have already legally stolen everything you own since 2013. You are only allowed to consider something your ‘own’ by granting custody rights, on THEIR terms. Houses, cars..the lot. The piece of paper like the deeds to yr house or your car cert is no longer legally valid.
The slogan should really be: you own nothing and they’ll be happy. That is what happened during the Great Depression and will shortly be upon us..Good luck!
Why on earth would ‘the mainstream media’ report record low temperatures…
When the narrative is one of global heating?
Don’t you mean “earth on fire?”
At least that is the whole scare mongering point.
‘What is the more newsworthy event?’
Well, Copernicus showed that we have went well past 1.5 degrees of warming.
As 1.5 degrees of warming was widely noted as the point at which disaster strikes, Net Zero people have went relatively quiet about how we must shut things down to avoid going past that catastrophic threshold.
2 is the new 1.5!
“Newsworthiness” (i.e. “click-bait”) is ALL that underpins the whole AGW conjecture.
I mean, what the AGW hullabaloo has spawned isn’t august congregations of apex scientists from the core physics disciplines, instead it’s inflicted on us rank propaganda outfits such as Covering Climate Now. https://coveringclimatenow.org/
Pathetic.
‘…. when, globally, temperature records were being shattered in both July and August 2023?’
Copernicus said the new temperature record was 17.16°C on 22 July 2024.
What do scientists say is the optimal temperature of the Earth?
Show your working.
And Copernicus is just another model, from some of their recent attempts, well and truly taken over by the AGW-cult scaremongers.
Optimum for who?
It certainly isn’t optimum for humans at the present.
The WUWT Real-time global temperature on the right-hand side of the pages says the temperature is 58.11°F / 14.51°C, and that temperature is including the Tropics.
That is much too cold for humans without protection from that cold.
A person could only live outdoors with few clothes for a few days before they died from hypothermia.
And yet, it was reported by early explorers that the natives in Tierra del Fuego slept naked at night in the outdoors, even in below freezing temperatures.
Topic is Antarctic cold records… Not the 2023 El Nino, which we all know has no human causation.
2023 warm period is NOT AGW
Stay on topic little twit.. we don’t need your fungal infection
Kunlun Station was only started in 2009, so a ‘coldest ever’ or ‘hottest ever’ doesn’t count for much. Also, new higher equipment was installed in 2022, which could have been where the new record was measured.
We do need to keep an eye on time periods etc before getting excited about new records.
According to UAH, land areas in Antarctica as a whole were above average in July 2023 (+0.12C above 1991-2020 average). August was -1.38 below the same average, but still only the 10th coldest in the UAH record.
Why didn’t the mainstream media report this!
Ask them
I’ll phone up Rupert Murdoch and ask him why the 10th coldest August in Antarctic land areas wasn’t front page news at a time when global average temperature records were being shattered.
Knock yourself out.
Still in absolute DENIAL of the strong El Nino.
Still totally incapable of showing any human causation.
What a useless AGW-cultist twit you are.
Oh dearie me, the fungal blatant ignorance continues.
Although UAH SoPol states that it goes from 60ºS to 90ºS.
UAH only really measures to about 80ºS, It actually misses most of the Antarctic.
Regardless, UAH SoPol did record a well below normal anomaly in August 2023.
You must have looked that up, so why didn’t you mention it ??? DECEIT !
And why the sudden moronic attempt to discount measured surface temperatures…
Its not as though they are affected by urban warming !
Why continue to expose your gormless ignorance !!
Better take that up with Dr Spencer and Dr Christie then; your heroes, bless…
So where did the data this post is referring to come from then?
Not the unreliable surface temps, surely?
I did mention it, numbskull. STUPIDITY!
Look at your pathetic ranting.
And still no evidence of human causation for the 2023 El Nino.
What a sad, sad excuse for a AGW-cult troll you really are.
You are probably so, so stupid that you think the Antarctic surface sites are tainted by urban cooling.
Your stupidity is tending to infinite, at a vapid rate.
I have to wonder what effect the Hunga Tonga eruption in 1/2022 had on
Antarctic temperatures. Also since the Humboldt Current begins in the
Antarctic and ENSO has a large impact on the entire planets weather
I would be of the mind there in a connection that is not being considered
by the media between those.
Yikes!! I wonder if wind chill is even a factor at that temperature?
Tel me something I don’t know-
Brutal frost ‘outbreak’ to hit four states (msn.com)
Dontcha know how cold works?
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Blame it on CO2.
Makes sense HT water vapor blocked SW solar from the South Pole