The Latest On The Federal War Against Internal Combustion Vehicles

From the MANHATTAN CONTRARIAN

Francis Menton

I’m old enough to remember a time when there were serious environmental concerns with internal combustion engine vehicles. NOx and SOx emissions caused a thick layer of brown smog in the atmosphere during calm weather spells in summer and winter; and a layer of black soot would cover the snow along the roadside in the winter. But gradually that all got cleaned up. Today the bona fide serious environmental concerns about internal combustion engines are far in the past. But the war to eliminate them — supposedly on environmental grounds — is just ramping up.

The Biden Administration is all in with the plan to get rid of the ICE car. Why? It seems to have something to do with the non-existent “climate crisis.” Meanwhile, Congress has passed no legislation authorizing the executive agencies to force ICE vehicles off the market. Nor is the Administration honest enough to admit that they are engaged in outlawing the vehicles that 90+% of the people drive.

Instead we get massive and thoroughly dishonest regulations effectively forcing the approaching end of the ICE vehicle without ever directly saying so. All with effective dates far enough into the future that the public will not notice that anything is happening in time for the upcoming election.

Two big new regulations on this subject have just gone final. First, there was EPA’s “Multi-Pollutant Emissions Standards for Model Years 2027 and Later Light- Duty and Medium-Duty Vehicles,” issued on April 18. And then yesterday from the NHTSA (part of the Department of Transportation) we get “Corporate Average Fuel Economy Standards for Passenger Cars and Light Trucks for Model Years 2027 and Beyond and Fuel Efficiency Standards for Heavy-Duty Pickup Trucks and Vans for Model Years 2030 and Beyond.” The first is 373 pages in the three-column, single-spaced format of the Federal Register. The second is 1004 pages in standard double-spaced typing.

If you should take the time to read some or all of the 1377 pages of text, don’t expect to find anywhere in all of that an admission that the plan is to suppress and ultimately eliminate the internal combustion car. Instead it’s happy sweet talk about the supposed “health” benefits of reducing greenhouse gas emissions. Here is an example from among many, this from page 27,844 of Volume 89 of the Federal Register:

EPA is establishing both criteria pollutant and GHG standards in this rulemaking given the need for additional reductions in emissions of these air pollutants to protect public health and welfare and based on EPA’s assessment of the suite of available control technologies for those pollutants, some of which are effective in controlling both GHGs and criteria pollutant emissions. Under these performance-based emissions standards, manufacturers have the discretion to choose the mix of technologies that achieve compliance across their fleets. EPA’s modeling provides information about several potential compliance paths manufacturers could use to comply with the standards, based on multiple inputs and assumptions (e.g., in what we have termed the central case, that manufacturers will seek the lowest cost compliance path).

“Manufacturers have the discretion to choose the mix of technologies that achieve compliance . . . .” Right. Everybody knows that the point of this is to force the majority of new car sales to be EVs or plug-in hybrids by some time in the early 2030s. But they’ll never say it straight.

And it’s the same with the new NHTSA Rule. This Rule sets new fleet-average fuel economy standards. NHTSA — aren’t they supposed to be in the business of “Highway Traffic Safety” (that’s the “HTS” part of their name)? Yes, but in the ultimate mission-creep, they are now the people behind the so-called “CAFE” (Corporate Average Fuel Economy) standards. Obviously, the people cannot be expected on their own to make appropriate trade-offs between fuel economy and other transportation needs (like carrying capacity). Thus, NHTSA now determines that beginning in the early 2030s, manufacturers must achieve average fuel economy for their fleets of 50+ miles per gallon.

But, you say, vehicles with internal combustion engines can’t achieve that figure if they are bigger than a thimble. Exactly. So here is a small piece of NHTSA’s justification:

Reducing gasoline consumption has multiple benefits – it improves our nation’s energy security, it saves consumers money, and reduces harmful pollutant emissions that lead to adverse human and environmental health outcomes and climate change. NHTSA estimates that relative to the reference baseline, this final rule will reduce carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions by 659 million metric tons for passenger cars and light trucks, and by 55 million metric tons for HDPUVs through calendar year 2050. Again, these relative reductions are greater if the rule is compared to the alternative baseline, but demonstrating a similar level of absolute carbon dioxide emissions.

You say that you have a need for a vehicle that can actually carry a couple of passengers and maybe a few suitcases? What kind of a traitor are you? Your options are to buy an EV or hire a ricksha.

The agencies know full well that they are forcing a transition to EVs that customers do not want. How fast must the forced transition be? This piece from Atlas EV Hub from March 25 estimates that EPA’s Rule by itself will force EV sales to be up to 69% of new vehicle sales by 2032:

The regulation is set to bring significant changes to the auto industry, potentially putting the United States on the glide path to full electrification. Manufacturers have several options to meet the new standards, and electric vehicles (EVs) will play a pivotal role in ensuring manufacturer compliance with these regulations. Under this final rule, battery electric and plug-in hybrid electric light-duty vehicles could make up 32 percent of all new vehicle sales in model year 2027, increasing to 69 percent by model year 2032.

The NHTSA CAFE Rule would require comparable, or perhaps even higher, percentages of EVs in manufacturer sales to achieve compliance.

Do you believe that the U.S. new vehicle market will switch over to mostly EVs so quickly over the next several years? I don’t believe it for a minute. So what happens when manufacturers produce mostly EVs to comply with these Rules, and then nobody will buy them? This could be very entertaining.

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Bryan A
June 9, 2024 10:21 pm

What happens when most new cars are EVs and no-one wants to buy one?
In a word

Cuba

Reply to  Bryan A
June 9, 2024 10:57 pm

Hah! Beat me to it.
The car rebuilding industry will blossom.

In other news the price of electricity triples because of all the intermittent sources being added to the grid to charge all the electric cars. Then it triples again because road taxes have to be collected on electric vehicles. Then the vehicles themselves triple because there are shortages of lithium and cobalt and copper.

I’d break out the popcorn but since it will be up to $80 a cup by then, I will pass.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  davidmhoffer
June 10, 2024 8:19 am

Imagine how much beer will cost. Beer goes well with popcorn.

JamesB_684
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
June 10, 2024 8:26 am

What popcorn? That’ll be unavailable due to the collapse of farming, due to the lack of viable farming vehicles.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  JamesB_684
June 11, 2024 8:19 am

You had to burst my bubble. LOL But it will be the loss of hops before the loss of popcorn that does me in.

kenji
Reply to  Bryan A
June 9, 2024 11:54 pm

And the Left side of our nation have been doing everything in their power to transform America into Cuba. Remember Obamakkare? Remember how we were all told that the Cuban health system was the BEST in the world? Wherein everything was FREE!? That LIE got Americans to adopt a Cuban-styled healthcare system … where nothing’s FREE as it was advertised, but the medical care keeps sliding toward Cuba’s …

Doug Huffman
Reply to  Bryan A
June 10, 2024 2:55 am

My luxurious but dumb 6,000# BMW DIESEL SUV is twelve years old, and, no, you can’t buy it. 30 MPG if I keep my foot out of it.

AWG
Reply to  Doug Huffman
June 10, 2024 5:46 am

I have a Jeep Cherokee with the 4L I6 that was made in the previous millennia purchased for a whole whopping $11k, Auto-Trader puts it at $6k now and it still gets 22 MPG when not pulling a trailer and it goes places that most modern cars can’t go. Fewer than 90k miles and the only thing that gives away its age is the glue on the headliner is giving way.

I can change plugs, oil, filters for less than $100 and 20 minutes of time.

Reply to  Bryan A
June 10, 2024 5:30 am

I’m working on it. My Toyota Tacoma pick-up is now exactly 20 years old and runs great. It had some rust but I did my own body work on it.

Mr Ed
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
June 10, 2024 6:52 am

Age is a number if you take care of it. The 2.4L toyota is a great engine.
My 88 toyota short box 4×4 has been very reliable and gets good mileage
even with oversized off road tires. The only thing I might change is put
in a solid front axel and take out the independent suspension. I wouldn’t
want to spend a day behind the wheel but for a utility truck on the ranch
it’s hard to beat for maintaining fences, chasing water and such. It’s
never been stuck–which I can’t that about my other full sized trucks..

Joe Crawford
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
June 10, 2024 11:47 am

A quick-fix for the rust is Ospho Surface Prep by Skyco (phosphoric acid with additives). Catch it soon enough and you can skip the Bondo. Just splash on the Ospho, let it sit overnight then paint over it. It’s used all the time in (salt-water) boating.

Reply to  Joe Crawford
June 11, 2024 3:46 am

I waited until I could put my fist through the holes. Then I cut some aluminum sheet metal and used rivets then painted with Toyota matching paint. Doesn’t look bad for a 20 year old truck which I have never washed once. 🙂

paul courtney
Reply to  Bryan A
June 10, 2024 12:50 pm

Mr. A.: Yes, and after a few years of grinding economic failure, we’ll step down one rung

Haiti
Where you buy the EV with poultry, but you can’t afford to charge it.

62empirical
June 9, 2024 10:30 pm

The US car companies (and I hope you are reading this), should take care of thier largest and most important customers first…the government agencies, military, law enforcement, and of course, Congressional members. THEY should get the first EV cars, so they can lead by example. I’m happy to wait a few years for mine, so our lawmakers have a proper transportation vehicle before allowing us “little people” to have one.

guidvce4
Reply to  62empirical
June 10, 2024 5:35 am

That would be absolutely beautifully karmic to see. Resulting in abandoned EVs all over DC due to the incompetence of whoever was supposed to plug them into chargers overnight. Justice served, finally.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  62empirical
June 10, 2024 8:43 am

I’m still looking for the CEO with enough business sense to say, “We will build what our customers want to buy. If it fails to meet some arbitrary and mythical sweet spot determined by who knows what and have to pay a fine, that’s just a cost of doing business. We are here to serve our CUSTOMERS”. Think that auto company would lead sales for a few years at least?

Rod Evans
June 9, 2024 11:42 pm

A famous UK politician said on his death bed to a close friend, a basic truth, something all politicians must acknowledge, but they resist doing so.
“The people always win in the end”

Coeur de Lion
June 10, 2024 1:45 am

I do hope Trump gets in

strativarius
Reply to  Coeur de Lion
June 10, 2024 2:08 am

Our only hope is Nigel Farage – the sole anti net zero voice in politics.

Farage’s right-leaning Reform UK party plans to make scrapping Britain’s ambitious net-zero climate targets central to its pitch at this year’s U.K. general election”
https://www.politico.eu/article/nigel-farage-reform-uk-new-party-targets-net-zero-for-uk-election/

At last, there’s someone to take a punt on.

Greytide
Reply to  strativarius
June 10, 2024 4:51 am

Funny how anything to the right of the left is always the “Far Right”. Bit like acidification of the oceans when it is just a little less alkaline.

kenji
Reply to  strativarius
June 10, 2024 4:58 am

Well … America took a punt on Trump in 2016 and our nation has never operated as well as when we had a pragmatic businessman in charge.

Richard Greene
Reply to  kenji
June 10, 2024 5:19 am

Real GDP growth averaged about 1% annually under Trump, the slowest since Herbert Hoover

Deficit spending was unprecedented. The Fed financing Trump’s HUGE 2020 and 2021 budget deficits was the sole cause of the high consumer price inflation rates in 2021 and 2022

2020 was the first year of fascism in the US

The rushed to market Covid shot, financed by Trump, was a disaster. The censorshi[ of ivermectin, that could help Covid patients, was unprecedented. Trump gave Fauci and Birx lots of face time on TV to scaremonger about Covid.

The January 6, 2021 election protest at the Capital was much too late, and in the wrong location, to protest state election fraud.

CO2 remained categorized as pollution during Trump’s four years, and he never made an intelligent statement on climate science in his entire life.

There was no Mexico border wall as promised

And only 8% of the Keystone XL pipeline extension was completed.

Trump fans look at the Trump years with rose colored glasses, seeing none of the disappointments and promises never delivered.

Reply to  Richard Greene
June 10, 2024 5:59 am

Yeah. It’s all imaginary. Trump voters are suffering mass delusion. Probably caused by something Trump put in the vaccines.

Reply to  Richard Greene
June 10, 2024 6:57 am

Who are you voting for this time around, Richard? Biden or Trump?

Reply to  Tom Abbott
June 10, 2024 2:02 pm

RG always voted for himself.. He is the only important person.

Writes me, me, me on the ballot paper.

Drake
Reply to  Richard Greene
June 10, 2024 7:18 am

Gosh you are such an idiot.

#1, GDP 1% annually, when you include the year of STATE government China Virus shutdowns in every large Democrat state designed to crush the economy before the 2020 election.

#2, China Virus related budget deficits. Its like you don’t remember the state sponsored spread of a lab produced disease by Brandon’s buddies, the CCP.

#3, 2020 lead to the first year of fascism in the US, 2021, witness the day one executive orders of Brandon and the whole of government leftist bureaucrats freedom to dominate the populace in every way possible.

#4, How was any of the anti hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin TRUMP’S fault, you @sshat?? All part of the leftist media all out assault on TRUMP! to help Democrats get elected.

#5, The Supreme Court rejected the Texas suit over unconstitutional changes in state election regulations by Democrat governors BEFORE the election. All was lost at that point.

#6, If TRUMP! was a fascist as you claim, he would have ignored the laws in place requiring the process to change regulations, etc. His administration was playing by the rules.

#7, He built as much wall as the federal courts allowed him to build. It was about funding which Congress did not provide although he did work arounds, and liberal courts delayed every move he made.

#8, Again HE followed the rules getting the pipeline restarted through the proper processes. I do think he should have declared an energy emergency and started construction, stopped by Obama, immediately, but HE was playing by the rules.

#9, You are a @sshat. TRUMP has learned from the Brandon administration over the last 4 years, HE will just do everything immediately with executive orders on day 1. You and the media will call it fascism, but when Brandon does it, not a peep from you.

BTW: When TRUMP! tried to end Obama’s use of “prosecutorial digression” in his DACA tactics the liberal courts got involved and in the end the SCOTUS determined that President TRUMP! could not fully undo by executive action what Obama did by executive action, thus making a judgement (Roberts the deciding vote) that Obama was more of a president than TRUMP!. Fascism by those in black robes.

You, at least whichever of your multiple personalities that is posting today, are truly and totally clueless.

Mr Ed
Reply to  Richard Greene
June 10, 2024 7:26 am

“2020 was the first year of fascism in the US”
I’m not a fan of Trump but he was better than the Clintons by far.

Here is some current fascist/corporatists

Tom Donilon is the Chairman of the BlackRock Investment Institute
and is a policy director in the Biden White House and served
as the National Security Advisor in the Obama administration.
He also served in the Clinton and Carter administrations.

There are more BlackRock members in this administration:

Tom’s wife Catherine Russell is also in the WH as the staffing director
Tom’s brother Mike is in the WH as a policy director
Brian Deese is on the National Economic Council
Wally Adeyemo a Yellen top advisor
Michael Pyle is the chief economic advisor to VP Harris

BlackRock has some 8 trillion under management….

Corporatism became one of the main tenets of fascism, and Benito Mussolini’s fascist regime in Italy advocated the total integration of divergent interests into the state for the common good

JamesB_684
Reply to  Richard Greene
June 10, 2024 8:28 am

Congress controls spending. The President can veto, but ultimately Congress is to blame for all deficits/debt.

Reply to  Richard Greene
June 10, 2024 10:11 am

Trump changes political parties about every six years. He gets what he can get for himself and then changes parties. He might go back to being a Democrat after being elected. There is no telling.

I’m not in favor of Biden either but at least he seems to be somewhat honest even if misguided.

Trump wouldn’t even take the stands to explain his company’s inaccurate corporate records.

In the case where his assets were inflated, he said that the companies should have done “due diligence” which is saying it is okay to rob a bank if they don’t have great security.

I would prefer two different candidates.

Reply to  scvblwxq
June 10, 2024 11:59 am

Trump wouldn’t even take the stands

Tell me again how you don’t understand how our legal system works.

Reply to  Tony_G
June 11, 2024 4:27 am

Hunter didn’t take the stand either.

I wonder if that will be criticized.

Reply to  scvblwxq
June 10, 2024 12:18 pm

Explain how Trump is going back to the Democrats. At least with a straight face.

I certainly agree he has changed the Republican party, but what the Democrats are today is anti-private business, plain and simple. He has nothing in common with them.

As for the kangaroo court, how could he take the stand in front of that judge, who allowed the prosecution to bring in all sorts of irrelevant testimony while limiting the defense to the point where they couldn’t even argue about corporate records? The defense would have had him on the stand for weeks.

Your understanding of real estate is weird. When you go in for a loan and are asked about your assets, it’s not your decision how they’re valued. Due diligence simply means the company making the loan has to decide how much to value your assets for their own satisfaction. A loan is a negotiation, just like any business transaction.

Since Trump satisfied the loans in question, there wasn’t even any bank that was in any way unhappy with these transactions.

Both of those cases were judges gone wild. And don’t even get started with the “rape victim” who bragged about getting her story from an episode of one of these TV procedurals.

I don’t like Trump at all, but the legal stuff in New York has been straight out the banana republic playbook, and I’m not talking about a defunct mall store.

Reply to  scvblwxq
June 11, 2024 4:25 am

“I’m not in favor of Biden either but at least he seems to be somewhat honest even if misguided.”

You really *don’t* have a clue about politics, do you. “somewhat honest”, that’s funny! Ever hear of “the Big Guy”?

You have missed the mark completely. Maybe you have listened to too much CNN leftwing propaganda.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  scvblwxq
June 11, 2024 8:21 am

Last and only time Trump changed parties was in 2009, due to the economic “policies” of the newly elected president. 15 years is not 6 years.

Reply to  scvblwxq
June 12, 2024 6:17 am

“…his company’s inaccurate corporate records.”
Please cite legal and accepted accounting practices to substantiate the charge that the records were inaccurate.

Reply to  Richard Greene
June 10, 2024 2:05 pm

RG has just outed himself as a staunch far-LEFTIST.

Out of the closet for all to see.

Goes along with his rabid support of so much of the AGW-cult mantra.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  strativarius
June 10, 2024 7:29 am

Except even Farage acknowledges that Labour are going to win and Reform will mostly take seats from the Conservatives as he said to Laura Kuensburg on the BBC last sunday.

Reply to  Dave Andrews
June 10, 2024 12:26 pm

This is true. Best thing the Conservatives could do is collectively resign and try to bring in Farage themselves.

Not that he’s a great fit, but the idiocy that led to Sunak effectively reduced the most successful political party in world history – the party that brought them Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher – to a sideshow.

That’s what Green does for you. The Tories went Green Lite and did their best to make Brexit ineffective and lost at least half of their support – the half of the party that actually cares about politics.

But there’s no softening this… the UK is headed down Germany’s path like a freight train.

Reply to  Joe Gordon
June 11, 2024 4:30 am

“But there’s no softening this… the UK is headed down Germany’s path like a freight train.”

That’s true. Both of them heading for a Net Zero trainwreck.

Reply to  Coeur de Lion
June 10, 2024 6:45 am

Trump and MAGA majorities in both houses.

Reply to  More Soylent Green!
June 10, 2024 6:58 am

That’s what we need. Then we won’t have to worry about the government taking our internal combustion engines away.

Drake
Reply to  More Soylent Green!
June 10, 2024 7:28 am

The only hope for the US.

Look what Miele is doing in Argentina. NO news about all the great results and massive gnashing of teeth by the leftist bureaucrats who lost their no show/no value jobs. The US media will not cover the good of the libertarian bent. It would hurt the Democrats in the US.

Miele ran as a TRUMP! conservative. TRUMP! must preside as a Miele conservative.

Housing values around DC MUST drop 30% or more due to the massive outflow of the unemployed liberal bureaucrats. Anyone still employed MUST be required to clock in at the office EVERY DAY, but the commute will be much easier once 50% of them are gone from the roads.

TRUMP! will not have the obstruction of old school Republican house and senate leaders. The last 3 elections have cleared many of them out. I think he will have the ability to chose who he will work with in the congress to institute the massive changes needed.

Reply to  Drake
June 10, 2024 12:28 pm

Miele… I hope he can keep it going there. He’s brilliant. It’s too bad we can’t adopt him and make him our president.

Duane
June 10, 2024 3:53 am

It seems pretty clear that there is no statutory authority that authorizes any administration to unilaterally destroy a major industry and major source of personal and commercial transportation. With the current makeup of SCOTUS that is not sympathetic to overreaching by the executive branch, sooner or later a group of states or private litigants are going to take the administration to court to overturn the regulations. With the publication of these two new rules, that time is likely now, this year. The rules will not survive.

kenji
Reply to  Duane
June 10, 2024 5:06 am

Sorry, I beg to differ. The SCOTUS has already declared the EPA to be the FINAL authority in all things “science”. The SCOTUS has endorsed the EPA’s endangerment finding that Co2 is killing the planet. Hence, anything the EPA does to eliminate or reduce Co2 is saving lives. And anything that doesn’t reduce Co2 is KILLING people. The SCOTUS has settled the science … or at least settled that the EPA is the final authority.

Oh … and the Chief Justice also declared that Congress has the power to TAX your planet killing Co2 … because … (see above)

Drake
Reply to  kenji
June 10, 2024 7:31 am

Why the down votes when kenji just stated FACT??

Congress must define CO2 as NOT A POLUTANT, thus ending the “endangerment” finding mute.

Michelle Savard
Reply to  kenji
June 10, 2024 2:05 pm

Actually, it is not the case that the EPA is the final authority in all things “science”. The EPA has been spanked by the Supreme Court when they attempted to overreach when it comes to ” wetlands”, for instance

You’ve got things entirely backwards with regards to CO2. Without CO2 all plants and animals will die.

AWG
Reply to  Duane
June 10, 2024 5:51 am

 no statutory authority that authorizes any administration to unilaterally destroy a major industry and major source of personal and commercial transportation.

I never want to hear politicians whine about our National Security when they have a myriad of agencies that only exist because of Congress / Parliament funding them and granting nominal (and questionable) authority – when these agencies are given unrestricted ability to “destroy major [domestic] industries”

Richard Greene
June 10, 2024 5:08 am

The upfront “CO2 emissions” for manufacturing a BEV are 70% larger than an ICE. It will take about 70,000 miles of driving the BEV to eliminate that difference (Volvo study).

If your electricity depends on a lot of coal burning, then the upfront CO2 gap may never be closed.

The BEV costs more, depreciates faster, and the insurance costs more than an ICE.

Refueling a BEV on the road is very inconvenient versus refueling an ICE … and the ICE range is longer, in all weather conditions.

If you can afford to pay more, and want to get less, a BEV may be your next automobile

2024 Toyota Corolla MSRP
$22,050

2-24 Toyota Corolla hybrid
$23,500 … The hybrid Corolla SE delivers up to 565 miles and 485.9 miles of city and highway range

2024 Tesla 3 MSRP
$40,380

BEVs are for rich, leftist losers who do not care about value.

Drake
Reply to  Richard Greene
June 10, 2024 7:32 am

Always love when a different of your multiple personalities comments on the same post, LOLOLOL!

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Richard Greene
June 10, 2024 8:29 am

You left out resale value. Who would want a used BEV without a full battery replacement?

Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
June 10, 2024 2:10 pm

Those EV graveyards are going to be filling very quickly !

Currently, wealthy people often “roll-over” to their next new ICE car every few years, providing a cheaper 2nd hand ICE for someone less wealthy.

I can’t see this happening with EVs.

John Pickens
June 10, 2024 5:09 am

People will just keep fixing and driving their ICE cars, you say? Don’t worry, the regulators will just start banning gas stations. Simple!

Reply to  John Pickens
June 10, 2024 5:32 am

Then the regulators will have to live in fortresses.

Coach Springer
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
June 10, 2024 7:12 am

I don’t know. Fauci banned helpful drugs for deadly diseases and got away with it – first for AIDS then for COVID.

Reply to  Coach Springer
June 10, 2024 8:30 am

What would his motive have been ? Mostly he made the same “decisions” as “First Doctors” of many countries did, reacting to WHO memos. Since all paths were unproven, it would be very difficult for someone in his position to take a radical path when the stats pointed to seriously high body counts. Not sayin’ I like the guy, just that I wouldn’t want his job…

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  DMacKenzie
June 10, 2024 8:49 am

What stats? He has already admitted he had no evidence for what he did, he was just making it up as he went along. My guess…? His retirement portfolio was heavily invested in the companies “selected” to produce these vaccines, and if anything else effectively treated the malady, these experimental vaccines could not get even an emergency approval for roll-out. Case closed.

Drake
Reply to  Joseph Zorzin
June 10, 2024 7:35 am

Try getting close to a Federal Judge. THEY are the “final arbiters” and are well protected when forwarding leftist causes.

Note that Brandon’s Injustice department did nothing when crowds of protesters showed up to conservative justices houses over the Roe vs Wade decision.

ScienceABC123
June 10, 2024 5:14 am

Back in the 1800s when crude oil was cracked to separate out the different components there was little to no use for gasoline. Most cracking towers simply burned the gasoline off at the top of the cracking towers. If everyone were forced to give up their gasoline powered vehicles, what would happen to all the gasoline produced in the oil cracking process? Most likely it would have to be burned off just it was in the 1800s.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  ScienceABC123
June 10, 2024 8:30 am

Oh, the CO2….

Someone
Reply to  ScienceABC123
June 10, 2024 9:52 am

Do not worry about where gasoline would go. There are 8 bln people in the world, and there will be ten. The developing countries will happily consume it all.

AWG
June 10, 2024 5:37 am

The other day I was reading through one of those slide-show click-bait websites about the Top Cars/SUVs/Trucks for the money. Many of them you can’t get in the former United States for Reasons. The Toyota diesel Hilux and SUVs built on that platform and others like it are examples.

The NHTSA denies these vehicles even though they may be safer than the rubber-room vehicles we are regulated into buying because, I’m sure, its a matter of typical regulatory overreach, bureaucratic sadism and garden variety vindictive corruption.

Trying to not emote over these, but rationalize my anger at them, I was thinking of TCO of vehicles, particularly the CAFE standards, which at one time were just about saving fuel due to the beatdown drivers took at the gasoline pumps during the 1970s government fiasco in meddling in the energy markets.

Savvy people look at the TCO, from purchase to sale and all costs in between. There are models of cars I would categorically avoid because of continuing maintenance costs. We were told that the CAFE was to ease the burden on our wallets, but at what expense both monetarily and convenience did that nominal mileage boost cost?

All kinds of safety gear were added (air bags, collapsing steering wheels, etc.) which added weight which meant using less steel, which decreased the integrity of the car which necessitated designing in “crumple zones” and abandoning body on frame construction. Then they really went after the corner cases and regulated bumper heights which reduced the ground clearance and thus the overland utility of SUVs. They ordered that the whole design of the front end of the car be modified to minimize harm to pedestrians who are hit by cars at crosswalks.

To pursue higher fuel efficiency at the same time they wanted to clean the air, they forced engineers to detune engines (which meant burning more fuel) they forced ethanol which also reduced fuel mileage due to less energy per gallon. One conflict after another, and each conflict ended up costing the manufacturer and the downstream customer more money to pile on tech that has nothing to do with moving a person from Point A to Point B – it was all to gratify some drone in Babylon DC.

Now our engines are overdesigned with computers and sensors and a vast array of technical items that only exist to squeeze out a little more fuel mileage. We have tire inflation monitors because under inflation reduces fuel mileage, etc. All of these come at a cost both in money and in convenience as the car goes into “Limp Mode” if any one of the myriad of sensors or control devices doesn’t respond well to the car’s computer.

So now we spend tens of thousands more for a car to save a few thousand in fuel at the pump. We are forced to pay up front all of these alleged “cost savings”, for most people that means financing tens of thousands of dollars more rather than a a pay as you go each time one hits the fuel pump.

The shorter version of this rant is: They hate us and want us to suffer at our own expense.

Drake
Reply to  AWG
June 10, 2024 7:45 am

The increase in fuel efficiency for a given cc engine size and HP output would always have happened. All the other stuff, to some extend, would also always have happened. All this without government mandates because when one company did it and advertised the advantages of better milage or higher safety, they would have had increased sales.

The current problem is the fact that NO ONE knows how much of the cost of an ICE engine is money used to BUY lower CAFE numbers by paying TESLA and other electric car manufacturers for their ZERO petroleum fuel usage miles.

Red94ViperRT10
Reply to  Drake
June 10, 2024 8:54 am

…ZERO petroleum fuel usage miles…

Ain’t no such thing. There is no utility anywhere that produces energy from 100% nuclear nor 100% hydro, or even a mix of the 2. So there will ALWAYS be fossil fuel usage to move a vehicle.

Reply to  AWG
June 12, 2024 6:28 am

“…We were told that the CAFE was to ease the burden on our wallets..”

Mayor Pete just announced that going to EVs would save the owner $600 in fuel costs over the life of the vehicle.

Wow, with that incentive I’m rushing out to buy a BEV costing $10 0- 20 thousand more than the equivalent ICE vehicle.

(And we are told Pete went to an elite business school!)

J Boles
June 10, 2024 5:55 am

I hate that word “consumer” as if there is someone who does not “consume”, just say people.

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  J Boles
June 10, 2024 8:34 am

Consumers are endangered species. Consumer = person with money enough to buy something.
Not sure which comes first massive population reduction or massive poverty.

June 10, 2024 8:14 am

All with effective dates far enough into the future that the public will not notice that anything is happening in time for the upcoming election.

I maintain that congress and all state legislators have no authority to pass legislation that takes effect past their election dates to their office periods and doing so is unconstitutional.

If there is no limit to legislating in the future, then future unborn citizens need no voting rights as we can just legislate the future for them now.

Surely, that sort of tyranny demands that there are limits to such ideas. Since there are elections every two years, then the limit for future legislation should end there.

STOP legislating the future. It is the antithesis of a representative democracy.

Sparta Nova 4
June 10, 2024 8:17 am

One would want to believe (even if a faulty belief) that NHTSA would be more concerned about LiPO battery fires than millage efficiencies.

Just me, I suppose, but safety is safety and economy is economy, and they do not necessarily mix.

jvcstone
June 10, 2024 9:12 am

I’m not sure how these constantly metastasizing government bureaucracies ever got the unconstitutional ability to make law, but it really needs to stop. A real populist president would fire 50% of the federal employees on day one and call that a good start.

LT3
June 10, 2024 11:32 am

But let’s keep civil aviation pumping 60+ billion gallons of water into the Stratosphere every year and pretend water vapor is not a greenhouse gas that has not been building up in the stratosphere for 7+ decades.

michael hart
June 10, 2024 12:32 pm

The last paragraph sums it up well. It could indeed be very entertaining.

US politicians have made themselves the same hostages to fortune as has happened in the UK and elsewhere. The have, with legislation, painted themselves into a corner from which there is no apparent escape.

But politicians and their minions are not always as stupid as they appear. In the UK, I believe the numerical targets set by the utterly ridiculous Climate Change Act of 2008 are subject to change. This can be overnight, by decree of, I think, the Home Office minister. Political pain, yes. But it can done immediately once reality fully digs its iron claws into green dreams and the rending of grass-fed flesh becomes too much to bear.

How it will go in the US, I’m not so sure.
Perhaps, like in Vietnam, victory will be declared before withdrawal. That’s going to happen anyway in the Ukraine so there will be plenty of chances to practice the media story, irrespective of what happens in the November election.

John Hultquist
June 10, 2024 12:46 pm

Take very good care of the vehicle you now have.
I will check out before the forced transition. That is, when gasoline is banned.
Of course, voting differently is an option.

Reply to  John Hultquist
June 10, 2024 1:52 pm

If they ban gasoline I will rejet and burn ethanol. That I can make myself.😉

June 10, 2024 3:01 pm

I think that too many people have a false impression of the powers and authority of the President under the Constitution.
“Executive Orders” have been vastly abused for decades.

CD in Wisconsin
June 10, 2024 3:08 pm

“Reducing gasoline consumption has multiple benefits – it improves our nation’s energy security, it saves consumers money,…:

I don’t know how many WUWT regulars beside myself have noticed, but the automakers are switching from V6 and V8 engines for SUVs to turbo 4-cylinder engines for better fuel economy to meet CAFE requirements. My Ford Escape has one.

The problem with this is that turbocharged engines usually give you the best fuel economy and horsepower with premium fuel instead of regular. Premium unleaded fuel (91 octane) generally costs about $1 more per gallon than regular unleaded.

The better fuel economy with turbo 4-cylinders doesn’t save me money when I am paying $1 more per gallon every time I fill up. I could of course use regular unleaded, but I don’t want my horsepower to suffer for it. I like spritely acceleration when I step on the gas.

Government bureaucrats can be such idiots.

Bob
June 10, 2024 3:59 pm

Nothing could be more clear our government is the problem. They are creating crisis where there are none. Our government needs to be drastically cut.

stevo
June 11, 2024 12:16 am

“So what happens when manufacturers produce mostly EVs to comply with these Rules, and then nobody will buy them?”

Tesla ‘graveyard’ photo shows major shift in Aussie EV marketIn Victoria alone, some 2000 Teslas arrive in Port Melbourne every month without any buyers. And they’re starting to pile up.Thousands of Teslas are sitting idle at Australian ports as interest in electric vehicles stalls and new and more affordable options enter the Australian market. Aerial photos of a port in Melbourne highlight the dramatic shift as Teslas that once rolled off the assembly line to eager buyers now simply wait to find a home.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/tesla-graveyard-photo-shows-major-shift-in-aussie-ev-market-222758407.html

heme212
June 11, 2024 12:44 am

so what happens?

if covid was any indication they will pit compliers against non-compliers and allow peer pressure to do their work for them.

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