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By Paul Homewood
I though the British press was bad enough!
The latest climate change predictions for Ireland – with temperatures no higher than 10 degrees in summer, and as low as -15 in winter – would have a disastrous impact on agriculture. A climate similar to Iceland’s would make it impossible to grow vegetables such as potatoes and carrots, which means that food prices will soar.
The latest research from Irish and international climate experts shows that Europe is warming twice as fast as the global average. The melting Arctic ice is causing sea levels to rise and this disrupts the main Atlantic current that makes Ireland’s climate temperate. Coastal communities are already feeling the impact of extreme weather patterns. Our vulnerability to climate disruption was evident in 2023, the warmest year on record, when a severe marine heatwave caused damaging flash floods.
Last week’s landslide in Papua New Guinea – caused by extraordinary rainfall – killed 2,000 people. Could such a catastrophe happen in Ireland? In February, Dublin was named as one of 36 major cities most at risk from rising sea levels and flooding.
Then there is worsening air turbulence. One person died and more than 70 people were injured recently on a Singapore Airlines flight because of severe air turbulence and just days later 12 people were injured after a flight from Doha to Dublin experienced turbulence. Studies have found that this problem increased by 55 per cent over the North Atlantic between 1979 and 2020.
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Wonder if the increase in flights across the Atlantic since 1979 has any correlation to the increase in instances of turbulence? Inquiring minds and all that…..
There has been no increase in relative instances.
All those planes cutting through the atmosphere has to leave a mark.
(I bet the wakes from all those boats and ships cutting through the water is the cause of sea level rise!)
Both ideas need more study.
Where’s my grant money check?
Boats are displacing water e.g. directly rising sea level.
I am particularly impressed with the ice floating on the Arctic Ocean melting causing the sea level to increase. Now that is a development in hydraulics/fluid dynamics none of us were aware of before Climate Change rewrote the laws of physics.
“a development in hydraulics/fluid dynamics”
It’s mental gymnastics – Olympic standard, too.
Alas poor Archimedes.
“Eureka” he shouted as the thoughts of a deep thinker ‘spiralled’ into history. He certainly knew how to float your boat, but obviously that was before we adopted the more modern science of woke.
Rod,
These days many people seem to be ignorant of the “Eureka” story in which Archimedes deduced that, inter alia, when floating ice melts, the water level changes only minutely. Part of the much-mentioned dumbing down of recent education, perhaps. Geoff S
‘Let’s all dream up the most disastrous scenario we can imagine and then pay some scientist to say that it will happen ‘due to climate change’.’
It’s rather like saying ‘let’s imagine that Scotland are going to win the Euros in 2024 and how 50 million English folk are going to all need anti-depressants for the next 20 years!’
So there’s going to be some cool air coming down from the NW over Ireland and Scotland in early June. This is not new. It happened in 1989, when it snowed down to 1500ft in the Cairngorms in early June that year – I was out the following weekend hiking and I was walking on firm neve at 4000ft around 6.30am. The winter before had been incredibly mild….
We’re all still here 35 years later, Scotland is still growing potatoes considerably further north than Ireland grows them.
“50 million English folk are going to all need anti-depressants for the next 20 years!”
That bit is true …
due to the constant bleating of doom from the climate catastrophists.
Not to mention the price of electricity and other commodities.
… and the very real prospect of not have any at all..
And all because of the Net-Zero anti human anti-science agenda.
Translated: Net-Zero energy…
“The melting Arctic ice is causing sea levels to rise and this disrupts the main Atlantic current that makes Ireland’s climate temperate.”
This is the old “Gulf Stream disruption will cause another Younger Dryas” theory.
First, sea levels are irrelevant. It’s about salinity.
Second, even if Greenland suddenly melted tomorrow all at once, which it won’t for maybe several hundreds of thousands of years, it wouldn’t cause another ice age.
If the Gulf Stream shut down, because it was warm enough to melt the Greenland Ice Sheet, then where would all of this cold air come from?
Our current Holocene interglacial is probably good for another one or two thousand years, before post-glacial rebound causes the N. Hemisphere landmasses to accumulate ice.
The gulf stream will only shut down if the Coriolis, which is an effect of the rotation of the earth, stops.
Latest Alarmist headline: Global Warming is going to stop the rotation of the Earth!
In the body of the article: That means no more potatoes and carrots in Ireland!
There is a cold water current counter to the Gulf Stream between it and the Greenland coast.
The flow rates are what are important. Gulf Steam wins.
Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation is real, but there is no evidence it can be shut down.
Day After Tomorrow was pure science fiction with the emphasis on fiction. It was based on a SciFi story called The Coming Global Superstorm (2004, Bell and Strieber). Oh, did anyone notice the frozen mammoth with food still in its mouth seen at the Museum of Natural History? How did that happen 10,000 years earlier with no CO2 from fossil fuels? What caused that Global Superstorm?
Then there is a 50 mile diameter eye in the superstorm, which is not an unusual eye size in hurricanes, that was able to instantly freeze everything due to somehow bringing air from miles up (cold due to low atmospheric density) able to instantly push much denser, much warmer air out of the way? SciFi at its best. Funny how the North Atlantic in that movie did not freeze. Think about that.
The closing remark is worthy. We cannot continue to consume our natural resources without consideration of the consequences. Those consequence may be minor or major and may be near term or far future, but we need to consider them.
Catastrophic climate change due to CO2 is a fiction, not a consequence.
CO2 being the control know is a fiction, not a truth.
OT,
UAH May just in.. +0.9C
Everywhere has dropped except the Tropics (about 34% of the planet’s surface area)…
… showing that the El Nino warmth is still hanging around.
“with temperatures no higher than 10 degrees in summer, and as low as -15 in winter”
Are they predicting IRISH COOLING ??
Only for Guinness…
“No Potatoes, Warns Irish Times”
Blame the British! Everybody else does.
But seriously, yes I know this is alleged climate science, but seriously: do they really expect us to believe this utter tosh? It’s just another bog standard bbq summer in these islands. Which I suspect is really annoying the green fraternity. Today is cloudy and ~19C a real underwhelmer. Undeterred, the clerisy proclaim:
“Warmest May and spring on record in UK, Met Office figures show”
https://www.itv.com/news/2024-06-03/warmest-may-and-spring-on-record-in-uk-met-office-figures-show
What this really means is – in my urban sprawl – overnight temperatures have been warmer. That’s how desperate its become for the cause.
Will the Welsh get a warning on Leeks? We English have already been warned…
Climate change could make beer taste worse – BBC
Today is cloudy and ~19C a real underwhelmer.
You should be so lucky !! On Anglesey, we’ve got 15C, cloud & light rain.
But it was…
“Warmest May and spring on record in UK, Met Office figures show”
June isn’t doing any blazing at all here in central England.
Warm beer ugh!
They are relying upon the totally discredited “Atlantic conveyor tipping point” theory to say that global warming will cause global cooling. It was always balderdash built upon bullshit, but it still remains. Hollywood bought into that theory, and totally lost their asses on several disaster flicks based upon that silly conjecture. This is the kind of tequila-fueled late night dormitory bull session yak that produced the warmunist manifesto.
The Earth is always going to attempt to convey heat energy from where it is, to where it isn’t. Otherwise referred to as the Second Law of Thermodynamics. The equatorial region will always receive much more incoming solar thermal energy than the polar regions – it’s spherical geometry and the way our planet rotates on its own axis in its orbit around the sun.
The oceans, made of liquid water with four times the specific heat capacity of air, and covering over 70% of the Earth’s surface, are the naturally dominant conveyors of heat from equator to pole. Oceanic currents are the motive mechanism to delivery that flow of stored thermal energy. There are only two places in the northern hemisphere for these oceanic currents to flow toward the north pole – the extremely narrow passage of the Bering Strait between Alaska and Russia, and the vastly wider passage between North America (including Greenland) and Europe. Hence the Atlantic conveyor is by far the most effective transport corridor for ocean currents from equator to the Arctic.
A little bit of fresh water input due to ice melt – infinitesimally small compared to the mass of water in the Atlantic Ocean – simply cannot overturn the most powerful water flow on the planet. Especially considering that there is no freaking way that the relatively minor amount of land bound ice (sea ice having effectively zero effect given that it’s so thin, being just a couple meters on average) can suddenly and catastrophically melt near instantaneously, releasing a veritable gusher of fresh water.
The only mechanism that can subvert the existing Atlantic conveyor system is plate tectonics, operating over timeframes of hundreds of millions of years, causing the arrangement of the continents to shift such that either the Atlantic gap closes, or the Pacific gap opens up. If the human race were even to last that long, that is plenty of time to learn to adapt to that kind of climate change. Frankly, the much nearer term climate change that can really hurt humans in the northern hemisphere is the return of another glaciation period like the last one that ended just 16 thousand years ago. THAT would be catastrophic, and humans will have nothing to do with creating it.
This theory was always hogwash, easily disproved, hardly worth the effort. But the warmunists and their stupid handmaidens in the media keep dragging it out like Lenin’s corpse and say, “See! Catastrophe’s a comin’!. Just like Hollywood said it would, but you yahoos wouldn’t listen to your intellectual superiors!”
Most curious thing about “climate change” is that it seems that everywhere is warming faster than the global average.
2nd paragraph, 1st sentence…”climate experts” gives it all away. Need read no more of the article, except to see how far the “experts” will go to expose their lack of intelligence. The leftists climate cult is at the spreading fear stage again. Nothing more than that, its just what they do.
The more their pet EVs pile up in the showrooms and on the docks, the power bills rise with the tech heads warning about grid stability and the deplorables get jacked with their solar and wind farms the more fantasmagorical they get with their signs and portents of the dooming. They’re losing control of the message and outcomes and getting increasingly hysterical about it.
Election time also in Ireland.
All the land is warming faster than the ocean, its basic physics not climate. More regurgitated propaganda.
They grow lots of potatoes in Russia. I’ll wager the climate there is more extreme that anything forecast for Ireland.
re: “No Potatoes, Warns Irish Times”.
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Not a problem with a Keto diet … (who was it that ‘pushed’ the Food Pyramid anyway?)
Studies have found …… Leading scientists say …. Fact-checked -True …..
Is destructive elitism a psychiatric disorder, or is it a new profession for people, with an expensive but bad education, who can’t get a real job?
(Yeah, I know, they’re not mutually exclusive).
Wrong. The PNG landslide was NOT caused by “extraordinary rainfall. It is elementary geology that the whole PNG landscape has been shaped by myriad events like that landslide. Ordinary rainfall, always heavier sometimes than others with natural variation, has forever been aiding landslides.
It is sad that many people lost their lives in this awful way. It was not their fault, it was not the fault of any people. They were simply in the wrong place at the time. It will happen again as unpredictable Nature interacts with human population growth and movement.
What is wrong with the feeble-minded people who bleat “climate change” when all that has happened is what has happened forever, naturally.
Get some education, please, before you bleat again. Geoff S
Yup! They’re getting rattled and hysterical-
Moment lawmaker suggests family road trips are ‘killing the planet’ (msn.com)
You have to imagine it happening because it never WILL happen!
Wow!
Dr. Phil calls on Biden to dismiss Trump’s hush money conviction (msn.com)
That’s big as he’s gotta lot of clout and he’s calling on the crazies to back off and behave themselves before things get really out of hand.
“Irish and International Climate experts” Who are they?
So global warming causes freezing temperatures in Ireland
Are we allowed to do Irish jokes these days? I get lost with all the woke nonsense
TYPO?
Should, “I though the British press was bad enough!” be “I thought the British press was bad enough!”?
Apparently, the Irish forgot to send their journalists and newspaper editors to schools offering a complete curriculum.
Or maybe they were too drunk to attend. I’ve heard that happens a lot in Ireland.
There are two things that will save Ireland. The first is a recent discovery that the earth rotates about 1500 KPH at average Ireland latitudes so it is impossible for any sub-supersonic aircraft to fly east across the Atlantic. This will reduce the Irish population to zero in about ten years. A small garden can supply enough carrots and potato for the rear-guard. The second is that the reduction in inhabitants will free up a lot of room for grass to grow, and Ireland being Ireland that will mean a lot more sheep about. The albedo effect from all these sheep is calculated to reduce expected global warming to -1.5 degrees, a 3 degree swing. Conditions will finally stabilize when the sheep are shorn for sweaters, painted black, and the marooned North American Irish figure out you can get home foing the wrong way ’round.