Nuclear Energy Could Be A Godsend For Biden’s Green Agenda. Here’s What’s Holding It Back

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Nuclear energy is effective at scale and produces no emissions, but the technology may not be poised to play a leading role in President Joe Biden’s green agenda.

American policymakers, primarily Democrats and their appointees, are pushing hard to realize the Biden administration’s goal of having the U.S. power sector reach net-zero emissions by 2035, but wind, solar and other renewable generation sources have not yet shown the same degree of reliability that nuclear has demonstrated. Despite these facts, Biden and lawmakers have so far failed to simplify the nuclear regulatory and permitting process, according to energy sector experts who spoke with the Daily Caller News Foundation.

The Biden administration often mentions nuclear alongside solar and wind, but U.S. nuclear capacity has remained mostly stagnant since 1980, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA). While new solar and wind projects are being announced and built with generally increasing frequency, only a handful of new nuclear reactors have come online in the past twenty years, a trend that may not change in the absence of significant policy and regulatory changes, according to EIA and power sector experts who spoke with the DCNF.

“Nuclear’s costs are enormous, because of the regulatory morass created by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC). It would be better to scrap the whole thing and go back to the Atomic Energy Commission, which actually worked to ensure safe, secure and affordable nuclear technologies,” Dan Kish, a senior research fellow at the Institute for Energy Research, told the DCNF. “Nuclear would be the obvious answer if the Greens and Biden truly want to electrify everything and reduce carbon dioxide emissions, but they also oppose natural gas that has reduced coal emissions, so I wouldn’t hold my breath. They don’t seem to want anything that solves the problems they insist exist, so I expect them to continue to reject things that actually work.”

The Biden administration has spent at least $1 trillion to advance its climate agenda, and generous subsidies in the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) and bipartisan infrastructure law of 2021 are designed to accelerate a transition away from fossil fuels. Both the infrastructure package and the IRA contain provisions designed to forestall the early retirement of nuclear facilities. However, neither law sufficiently streamlined the complex regulatory environment for nuclear or significantly reduced the overhead costs of building new capacity, John Starkey, director of public policy for the American Nuclear Society, told the DCNF.

The incentives in the IRA and infrastructure bills are a “great start,” but “more assistance for cost overruns and early mover support for first-of-a-kind advanced reactors would also be helpful,” Starkey told the DCNF.

The administration has expressed a desire to build up a domestic supply chain for nuclear power, which is dominated by Russia and China. However, Biden also designated a nearly one million acres of uranium-rich land in Arizona as a national monument in August 2023, prohibiting future mining claims in the covered area. (RELATED: Enviros Cheered New York For Shutting Down Huge Nuke Plant. Then Emissions Jumped)

There are currently 54 operational nuclear power plants and a total of 93 commercial reactors in the U.S., which combine to supply about 19% of America’s electricity, according to EIA. The average nuclear reactor is 42 years old, and licensing rules restrict their lifetimes to a maximum range of 40 to 80 years, according to EIA.

The potential promise of nuclear energy is also apparent to many policymakers from around the world; more than 20 nations, including the U.S., pledged to triple nuclear energy generation to bring down emissions during COP28, the United Nations climate summit held at the end of 2023 in the United Arab Emirates. However, realizing that pledge in the U.S. may be more difficult than making it given the high costs and regulatory environment that prospective builders and operators of nuclear plants must navigate, multiple energy sector and nuclear experts told the DCNF.

“I think the fundamental issue with nuclear power is a question of risk aversion. People have a very strong association of nuclear power with nuclear accidents and radiation leaks and very severe health hazards. And there is debate,” Brian Potter, a senior infrastructure fellow with the Institute for Progress, told the DCNF. “There’s a lot of debate, which I’m not an expert on, as to how real those risks are.”

“The organizations tasked with overseeing and managing tend to be very risk averse and have a very burdensome process for approval and getting these things built,” Potter continued. “And so overall, it just makes it really, really hard to build these things or to relax regulations around making them easier to build.”

In terms of levelized capital costs, nuclear energy is the most expensive per unit of energy produced of all forms of generation other than offshore wind under the assumption that operation will start in 2028, according to EIA data aggregated by Statista.

Notably, many Democrats and environmentalists are opposed to nuclear energy largely because of perceived safety risks. Historically, major nuclear incidents — Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukushima — have caused significant environmental damage or loss of life, and often are followed by increases in regulation designed to prevent another disaster.

But those incidents, tragic and destructive though they were, are not representative of nuclear power’s overall level of safety, according to Starkey.

“I sense a cooling even from a lot of environmentalist groups that used to sour on nuclear who are now saying ‘wait a minute,’” Starkey told the DCNF. “With regard to things that have happened in the past when it comes to nuclear accidents, the public and Congress, in a bipartisan way on both sides, I’m starting to see more of an understanding of what’s happened. And that deep fear of radiation from 10, 15, 20 years ago, it’s starting to tamper down a little bit.” (RELATED: Elon Musk Calls For More Fossil Fuels And Nuclear Power To Avert Energy Crisis)

The NRC — the federal entity that is primarily responsible for regulating nuclear power —  does not impose a regulatory burden that is too onerous, Starkey added. However, the agency is trying to become “leaner and meaner” while also “maintaining a vigorous standard of safety,” Starkey said.

“We are focused on appropriately balancing our regulatory footprint while continuing to ensure we’re carrying out our safety mission,” an NRC spokesperson told the DCNF. The spokesperson also referred the DCNF to a March speech from NRC Chair Christopher Hanson in which he said that his agency is anticipating applications for two combined licenses, one design certification, one standard design approval, one manufacturing license, three operating licenses and nine construction permits.

Congress has also identified a need for streamlining in the nuclear space, passing a package of nuclear reform bills in the House this week in strong bipartisan fashion. However, the plan of some senators to use the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) reauthorization bill as a legislative vehicle for the nuclear package failed, according to the Washington Examiner.

Despite the missed opportunity on the FAA bill, Starkey remains confident that the nuclear package could still find its way through the Senate at some point in the coming weeks as more chances come around.

The Department of Energy did not respond to a request for comment.

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heme212
May 12, 2024 6:09 pm

I saved 0.40$ off my electric bill today with my solar array adjusted for summer and moved 3x during the day.

i might splurge on lunch out tomorrow

heme212
Reply to  heme212
May 12, 2024 6:10 pm

it’s a small array

cgh
Reply to  heme212
May 12, 2024 6:21 pm

Your array will be wiped out in the first decent hailstorm. The notion of grid-scale power generation from solar is a massive fraud

Bryan A
Reply to  cgh
May 12, 2024 8:41 pm

Raising 3.14MW of Solar Panels on a small farm and thinking you’re going to get 3.14 MWh per hour 24hrs a day is just Pi in the sky thinking

cgh
Reply to  Bryan A
May 13, 2024 7:43 am

There’s usually a problem at sundown.

Bryan A
Reply to  cgh
May 13, 2024 7:55 pm

That particular problem starts well before sundown. Solar only produces anything close to nameplate from 10am until 2pm local time. After 2pm the declining incident angle of the sun on the panels decreases generation until its almost nil by 4pm AND ramps up similarly from 8am until 10am. However this is only in the summer months. In winter the incident angle is so low in the sky that solar barely produces 1/2 nameplate at noon and barely averages 10% over 24 hours. Then falls to almost zero on stormy winter days

Even less at more pole ward latitudes

MarkW
Reply to  heme212
May 13, 2024 11:50 am

You should thank everyone who is being forced to subsidize the purchase of your electricity.

heme212
Reply to  MarkW
May 13, 2024 6:43 pm

reread what i wrote

Bryan A
Reply to  heme212
May 13, 2024 7:57 pm

I think Mark missed the /sarc

May 12, 2024 6:09 pm

Bidens net zero is to appease greenies and nothing else. Nuclear offends greenies so it won’t happen. Net Zero is aimed at buying greenie votes. End of story

cgh
May 12, 2024 6:18 pm

Some problems with this article. Let’s start here.

Historically, major nuclear incidents — Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukushima — have caused significant environmental damage or loss of life“.

There was no radiation-related loss of life or injury at TMI or Fukushima. Chernobyl is not relevant because such a reactor design could not be built in any nation with a competent nuclear regulatory body and competent nuclear designer and builder.

I think the fundamental issue with nuclear power is a question of risk aversion.”

Potter comes close but like all of this article misses the mark. There is indeed risk aversion. It’s called financial aversion. Prior to TMI, private capital was available for new nuclear construction and even developmental nuclear construction such as Fermi 1. But the real effect of TMI was to destroy immediately private investment in new nuclear power. TMI showed that millions or billions in investment in a facility could be destroyed immediately by operator error, inadequate operator training, poorly designed instrumentation. All of the capital required to build an NPP could be recovered only very slowly from the electricity rate base, far too low a rate to compensate the investor adequately for losing all of the sunk capital in an NPP.

The result of TMI was immediate. Irrespective of whether or not NPPs were useful, hundreds of planned NPPs in the United States were canceled forthwith because of withdrawal of all of the financial institutions from nuclear power.

Hence private financing disappeared completely for nuclear power in the US and everywhere else around the world. Only nuclear power plants backed by a government guarantee of the construction and investment loans were possible. This situation will not change any time soon. Incentives for construction of new NPPs are largely irrelevant compared to the power of the disincentive for private capital.

Bryan A
Reply to  cgh
May 12, 2024 9:00 pm

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_and_radiation_accidents_and_incidents#:~:text=Serious%20nuclear%20power%20plant%20accidents,%2D1%20accident%20(1961).
Per.WIKI generating electricity by Nuclear Generation has been around since 1954 when the first plant was constructed. Since then there have been exactly 28 incidents 19 of which resulted in ZERO deaths. Total there have been less than 350 deaths from nuclear incidents of which Chernobyl had 28, Fukushima had 1 and 3 Mile Island had exactly zero. Air travel is far more risky with hundreds of deaths per incident
According to WIKI
Aviation accidents and incidents

Bureau of Aircraft Accidents Archives (B3A) The total fatalities due to aviation accidents since 1970 is 83,772. The total number of incidents is 11,164.

28 nuclear incidents vs 11,164 aviation incidents
<350 Nuclear incident deaths since 1954 vs 83,772 aviation deaths since 1970

Keitho
Editor
Reply to  Bryan A
May 13, 2024 12:05 am

What were the other 321 deaths caused by Bryan?

Bryan A
Reply to  Keitho
May 13, 2024 8:19 am

Debatable Cancer deaths
After the fact.
Had to include them or else someone might complain😉😘

Reply to  Keitho
May 13, 2024 2:34 pm

None of those 321 ever smoked or were exposed to “second hand smoke”?
None ever used a product that The State of California has declared could cause cancer?
All of their family histories were explored?
In other words, how all those 321 deaths be attributed to JUST those few incidents?
Also, how many of the 321 were Chernobyl alone?

Reply to  Bryan A
May 13, 2024 7:10 am

To say nuclear compares favorably with coal mining danger
is a massive understatement.
https://arlweb.msha.gov/stats/centurystats/coalstats.asp

Bryan A
Reply to  Thomas Finegan
May 13, 2024 11:11 am

But any and every mining is fraught with inherent dangers
Even…
Copper Mining
Cobalt Mining
Cadmium Mining
Lithium Mining
Quartz Mining
Iron Mining
Etc. Etc. Etc.
There isn’t any type of mining going on today that doesn’t have built in dangers whether open pit or underground

MarkW
Reply to  Bryan A
May 13, 2024 11:54 am

Even open pit mining can be dangerous.
Working alongside trucks that are the size of a 3 story building will never be completely safe.

Bryan A
Reply to  MarkW
May 13, 2024 7:59 pm

Just force them to run on Batteries. They’ll get to the bottom of the pit and never make it back out again

Reply to  Bryan A
May 13, 2024 9:34 pm

Doesn’t uranium mining now involve injecting a solution down a borehole, which dissolves the uranium, which is pumped to the surface. No chance of cave-in deaths, at least.

kingjim1954
Reply to  Bryan A
May 14, 2024 3:46 pm

Now I suppose you expect the public to do the math.

oeman50
Reply to  cgh
May 13, 2024 5:07 am

Excellent point about Chernobyl, cgh. The Chernobyl disaster contaminated over 100,000 square kilometers of land. Not so at TMI and Fukushima. It also outright contaminated some personnel to the extent some had to buried in lead-lined coffins. No one died from acute radiation effects at TMI or
Fukushima.

cgh
Reply to  oeman50
May 13, 2024 7:40 am

I understated things a bit regarding Chernobyl. Not only was it a reactor type built to incompetent standards in a nation which cared nothing for safety culture, RBMK reactors were built as weapons projects to produce plutonium for the Soviet weapons programs. With a conflicted mission to produce both weapons materials and electricity, it was inevitable that there would be a conflict between the two missions to the detriment of safety.

Weapons projects do not have the same safety considerations as purely civilian ones.

Moreover, the Chernobyl 1986 accident had a precursor event in 1975 at Leningrad Unit 2. A power runaway resulted in melting of some of the fuel before operators managed to shut down the reactor. RBMK reactors were, by design, dangerously unstable. And in the case of Chernobyl, it didn’t help matters that the plant was under weak management.It didn’t help matters that the emergency shutdown system was by design inadequate to shut down the reactor under any emergency condition. It didn’t help matters that the emergency shutdown system itself injected large POSITIVE reactivity into the reactor, exactly the opposite of what it was supposed to do.

In short, if safety protection was the object, RBMKs were designed by a gang of vicious idiots at the Kurchatov Institute. But then, these were the silly a*****s who created the Kyshtym disaster in 1957. They are also the ones who turned Novaya Zemlya into an uninhabitable, irradiated moonscape.Seen in this light, Chernobyl Unit 4 in 1986 was only the last of their dismal performance. It’s a sign of how utterly corrupt the Soviet Union was that none of them were disciplined for repeated, egregious failure.

Reply to  cgh
May 13, 2024 8:56 am

I also recall reading that at Chernobyl, it was the night crew running something that they were not trained on, and the person in charge made some bad calls when things started going wrong.

No regulation is going to fix that.

antigtiff
Reply to  Tony_G
May 13, 2024 10:14 am

After the event, a Russian prevented handing out iodine to the people because he thought it might scare them.

MarkW
Reply to  antigtiff
May 13, 2024 11:59 am

It took a week before the Soviet Union admitted to the outside world that an accident had occurred. It was only after radiation was detected in Europe and an analysis of the isotopes in the cloud proved conclusively that the cloud had come from a meltdown.

MarkW
Reply to  cgh
May 13, 2024 11:58 am

Don’t forget that part of the safety system was shut down so that they could run a test that should have been run prior to start up.
The operators lied and said that the test had been run at the proper time so that they could get the plant certified on time and everyone get their bonus’s.

Reply to  cgh
May 13, 2024 9:40 pm

The Soviet government culture, that produced so much environmental and human tragedy, is similar to the top-down Biden and other woke governments’ laws that they think can bend the laws of physics and economics into making wind and solar work on a large scale.

Reply to  oeman50
May 14, 2024 3:33 am

The Chernobyl disaster contaminated over 100,000 square kilometers of land.

FSVO ‘contaminated’ . In fact it ‘contaminated’ the whole world. FSVO ‘contaminated’.
The Doom Pixie and her chums claim the same for coal and oil and gas, and the EPA agrees with them.

In fact the area round Chernobyl is absolutely teeming with life. And has in general lower radioactivity than many places in the world do naturally.

Many people never left.

Reply to  cgh
May 13, 2024 9:09 am

“There was no radiation-related loss of life or injury at TMI or Fukushima.”

Not true, based on two independent reports:

Two workers at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant were hospitalized for radiation burns received in the days following the 11 March 2011 earthquake and tsunami that caused hot shutdowns and loss of coolant of the three reactors that were operating at that time.
(see: McCurry, Justin (24 March 2011). “Japan nuclear plant workers in hospital after radiation exposure”, The Guardian )

Three workers were exposed to radiation over 100 mSv, and two of them were sent to a hospital due to beta burns on 24 March.
(see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_50 )

Reply to  ToldYouSo
May 13, 2024 2:39 pm

Could be.
Honest question. I don’t know the answer.
How many firefighters have been trying put out a house fire that had solar panels on it’s roof?

Reply to  Gunga Din
May 13, 2024 4:57 pm

We don’t have many of those in my rural FDs area, but I can say for sure that none of us would go up on to that roof. We don’t really do roofs a lot, only if ventilation is needed – but in a case like that, well, it won’t get the ventilation.

Reply to  ToldYouSo
May 13, 2024 2:43 pm

For those down-voters:
“There’s none so blind as those that who will not see.”
—attributed John Heywood in 1546
(see https://writingtips.org/theres-none-so-blind/ )

I love twitching your erroneous belief systems!

MarkW
Reply to  ToldYouSo
May 13, 2024 3:19 pm

So you get upset when others fail to appreciate your lies and distortions?

Reply to  MarkW
May 13, 2024 9:53 pm

It’s not about what’s best for humanity or even the environment – it’s all about control. Once the solar/wind/net zero crash and burn, don’t be surprised if some other boogeyman is dreamed up and becomes the thing to scare and panic people into submission.

Reply to  PCman999
May 14, 2024 3:41 am

Oh so true.

What I fear most is a pandemic that peoples will say ‘well Covid wasn’t after all so bad’ and ‘ damned if I have the vax’ then 1/3 of the earths populations die from it.

Governments are crying ‘wolf’ altogether too many times for comfort.

Reply to  MarkW
May 14, 2024 6:26 am

No.

Reply to  ToldYouSo
May 13, 2024 9:49 pm

“Erroneous belief systems”

You came up with 2 injuries from the most publicized nuclear incident in recent memory. Any car accident, thousands a day, will likely result in more injuries and unfortunately actually deaths rather than injuries – compared to several nuclear reactors together getting hit with a one-two punch of very strong earthquakes followed up by a huge tsunami chaser. The only thing missing was a Kaiju!

Reply to  PCman999
May 14, 2024 3:53 am

Precisely.

I can think of two windmill related deaths just from memory. A wind turbine blade killed a dock worker, and a parachutist was killed when she flew into a wind farm.

That beats Fukushima hands down.

The fact is that nuclear power is in fact the safest way, death or injury per watt hour, to generate electricity. It also has the highest power density, meaning that again its environmental impact per watt hour is the least – and way below solar or wind.

Only the fear of radiation, which is vastly over hyped, holds it back as regulations have quadrupled the cost of nuclear power in the last two decades.

Reply to  Leo Smith
May 14, 2024 6:47 am

“How Many Accidents Are Caused by Wind Turbines?
“. . . No other death count is as shrouded in mystery as that caused by wind turbines. The US government doesn’t keep tabs on how many people have died in turbine-related accidents, and neither do most other countries where renewable energy source has been erected . . .
In Scotland, there have been 229 recorded fatalities associated with wind farms since the year 2000 . . .
“The study linked above by Scotland Against Spin indicates that in 2020 alone, there were over three hundred accidents caused by wind turbines in the United Kingdom, eleven of which resulted in human fatalities. The study found that the number of accidents involving wind turbines has been increasing each year, with the majority of accidents occurring at onshore wind farms.”
https://injuredcase.com/how-many-accidents-are-caused-by-wind-turbines/
(my bold emphasis added)

Found in Web search that took all of about 15 seconds.

I also took another 15 second to find:
— size of nuclear exclusion zone around Chernobyl nuclear disaster is about 4,143 square km
— size of the nuclear exclusion zone around Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster is about 371 square km.
(see https://www.britannica.com/story/nuclear-exclusion-zones )

I’m not aware of human exclusion zones being implemented around wind farms as a result of accidents there.

Reply to  PCman999
May 14, 2024 6:33 am

“You came up with 2 injuries from the most publicized nuclear incident in recent memory.”

No, I cited two independent references that reported on radiation burns received by workers at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant as a direct result of its reactor meltdowns and reactor building explosions.

The subject was limited to “injuries at Fukashima” . . . not any comparison to car accidents.

Reply to  ToldYouSo
May 14, 2024 3:39 am

Ive been in hospital too, and I am exposed to radiation every day. The Guardian has more spin than a helicopter rotor.

If you sit in the sun you will get ‘radiation burns’

200mSV is unlikely to show any effects at all. Or very minor ones.

An equivalent headline might be ‘solar farm worker in hospital after breaking leg tripping over solar panel wiring’

Reply to  Leo Smith
May 14, 2024 7:10 am

“200mSV is unlikely to show any effects at all.”

So you say . . . but it appears that nuclear regulatory agencies have a more conservative take:

“The effective dose limits for a nuclear energy worker is set at 50 mSv in any one year and 100 mSv in five consecutive years. The dose limit for pregnant workers is 4 mSv from the time the pregnancy is declared to the end of the term. In addition, licensees must ensure that all doses are as low as reasonably achievable, social and economic factors being taken into account ( ALARA ). Regular reporting and monitoring demonstrate the average annual doses to the most exposed workers (e.g., industrial radiographer) are approximately 5 mSv per year.”
https://www.cnsc-ccsn.gc.ca/eng/resources/radiation/radiation-doses/

Tom Halla
May 12, 2024 6:20 pm

Part of the Green Blob depends on Byzantine regulatory procedures to achieve their goals, which are also mostly opposing doing anything constructive. Fundraising depends on selling risk, for which they cannot admit it always a tradeoff. It is always Risk, with no concern for Benefits.
Of course, some are nihilist Luddites, as with the quote from Paul Ehrlich that having cheap unlimited power would be like “giving an idiot child a machine gun”.

Editor
May 12, 2024 6:27 pm

“They don’t seem to want anything that solves the problems they insist exist, so I expect them to continue to reject things that actually work.”. Getting close. The reality is that greens oppose anything that works. No maybes or seem-tos about it. Greens oppose anything that works. Period.

Chris Hanley
May 12, 2024 6:38 pm

In terms of levelized capital costs, nuclear energy is the most expensive per unit of energy produced of all forms of generation other than offshore wind

If the LCOE comparisons do not include the costs for necessary storage and much shorter lifespan of intermittent generation it is deception.

Reply to  Chris Hanley
May 14, 2024 3:54 am

If the LCOE comparisons do not include the costs for necessary storage and much shorter lifespan of intermittent generation it is deception.

If the anti-nuclear lobby’s massive regulatory burden were lifted, it would be the cheapest.

vboring
May 12, 2024 6:38 pm

This substack details the fallacious basis for excessive nuclear energy regulations, and explores the consequences.

https://jackdevanney.substack.com/

Aetiuz
May 12, 2024 6:47 pm

I think you’re missing the point. Biden’s agenda isn’t to transition to a net zero energy economy. His agenda is to destroy America. When you realize that, everything he does make sense.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Aetiuz
May 12, 2024 9:28 pm

I think Joe believed he could become “the best president ever” by saving the world from Carbon Dioxide. He probably doesn’t know it that way. More likely he knows the term “greenhouse gas” and all the hype is driving his administration. It appears he was never very bright and gets dimmer every day. His only agenda has been to build a legacy — a failure of gigantic size.

MarkW
Reply to  John Hultquist
May 13, 2024 12:02 pm

He is building a legacy, just not the one he intended to build.

Reply to  Aetiuz
May 12, 2024 11:45 pm

It isn’t just Biden’s agenda, it’s all those people who subscribe to the
World Economic Forum and probably several other organizations with
a similar agenda.

ScienceABC123
Reply to  Aetiuz
May 13, 2024 7:44 am

I’ll have to disagree. Democrats have long held the belief they could make anything happen by simply passing legislation to force it. The destruction they cause by doing so is to them either: 1) an unforeseen consequence, or 2) evidence of others sabotaging their efforts. Remember, Democrats never admit to being wrong.

antigtiff
May 12, 2024 7:09 pm

These people have the right idea https://www.copenhagenatomics.com

Curious George
Reply to  antigtiff
May 13, 2024 8:06 am

They offer two products, highly purified salts, and molten salt loop.

antigtiff
Reply to  Curious George
May 13, 2024 10:18 am

Lars has the right idea….. https://www.thorconpower.com

May 12, 2024 7:25 pm

and produces no emissions,

What does this mean?

How do you make nuclear reactors without emissions?

How do you mine uranium rich ores without emissions?

It is a nonsense statement.

Even when operating there are heat and/or water vapour emissions.

Iain Reid
Reply to  RickWill
May 12, 2024 11:55 pm

Rick,
it simply means that there are no CO2 emissions from operating the plant, the only emissions that the blinkered NGOs and politicians look at.
All the others you mention apply to every type of generation, including ‘green renewables’.
Of course it’s nonsense but that is the narrow spectrum upon which generation emissions are looked at and counted.

Reply to  RickWill
May 13, 2024 5:30 am

The issue — climate change — is caused by CO2 emissions.

Reply to  Warren Beeton
May 13, 2024 9:04 am

No it isn’t.

The Dark Lord
Reply to  Warren Beeton
May 13, 2024 9:23 am

so you are saying that CO2 is basically BRANDO … its got what climate change needs ?

MarkW
Reply to  Warren Beeton
May 13, 2024 12:04 pm

There is no evidence to support such a belief.

Reply to  Warren Beeton
May 13, 2024 3:00 pm

The issue — climate change — is caused by CO2 emissions.”

The real issue is whether “(CAGW, AGW, or what is now called “Climate Change”) are really an issue at all. Man’s CO2 emissions are just being used as a power and money grab.
There is NO “existential threat” other than a lust for power and money at our expense.

Reply to  Warren Beeton
May 14, 2024 4:01 am

Believe that and I have a bridge to sell you.

No one knows what causes climate change, why the last ice age happened or why we are in an interstadial now, or why the Younger Dryas happened, or why we have had both considerably warmer and considerably colder periods in the last 8000 years.

All of that tends to refute the claim that all modern climate change is man made.
And that refutation is supported by complete lack of correlation between smoothly rising CO2 and massive ‘pauses’ in rises in global temperature,.

We know for example that the El Niño/La Niña quasiperiodic changes have a far far greater effect on global temperature than CO2. And yet the myth persists.

antigtiff
May 12, 2024 7:49 pm

Copenhagen Atomics has videos on Youtube….the one 12 days ago has an example that a golf ball sized quantity of thorium would provide the energy used by the average person in a lifetime……and current mining of all kinds produces enough thorium as a byproduct to power the world. AI is advancing rapidly….and it is scary…..soon it will be asked if CO2 is causing global warming….AI will review everything related to the subject…and give an answer.

Reply to  antigtiff
May 13, 2024 4:17 am

We will then bow before the great AI God. Soon, temples will be built to worship it.

The Expulsive
Reply to  antigtiff
May 13, 2024 6:34 am

Machine learning only returns the answers that its programming will allow it to learn. AI, which is the current term used to encapsulate machine learning, is hence a facility of programming and not actual independent thinking, though some engineers add “yet”. It is possible that the programmers will instruct that the program review all of the literature related to climate, or they may limit the review to a specified field. The result will be a function of the program’s field of review, which means that it can result in a contrived answer, though it could also result in more questions.
Thorium reactors have yet to achieve commercial viability, partly due to the perceived regulatory issues around the use of resultant U 232. In short, those uses scare people.

May 12, 2024 7:58 pm

Nuclear is NOT the answer, since its use does not address the real cause of Climate Change, which is simply the cleansing our atmosphere of industrial SO2 aerosol pollution by banning the burning of fossil fuels.

The cleaner our air becomes, the hotter it will get!

Bryan A
Reply to  BurlHenry
May 12, 2024 9:03 pm

But they don’t blame SO2 they blame CO2 and Nuclear Generation is Boogie man free

Reply to  BurlHenry
May 13, 2024 5:29 am

The cause of global warming is the annual release of 40 billion tons of CO2 from the burning of fossil fuels; the reduction of aerosols had only a one time warming effect, but the accumulation of atmospheric CO2 — up 48% since 1750 — has a far larger , and ongoing effect. And as long as mankind continues to burn fossil fuels, global temperatures will continue to increase.

antigtiff
Reply to  Warren Beeton
May 13, 2024 6:17 am

Where is the proof? Can you prove it? AI can remember everything and computes in a very short time……many may be surprised when AI answers the global warming question.

Reply to  Warren Beeton
May 13, 2024 6:22 am

Warren Beeton:

You are mistaken. CO2 has NO climatic effect.

See “Scientific proof that CO2 does NOT cause global warming.

https://doi.org/10.30574/wjarr.2024.21.3.0884

Bryan A
Reply to  Warren Beeton
May 13, 2024 8:23 am

The cause of Global Warming™ is Mann’s Mannipulation and Karl’s Karlization of temperature records both current and historic to create an artificial increase in modern times

The Dark Lord
Reply to  Warren Beeton
May 13, 2024 9:28 am

then why did global temperatures go down from the 1940’s to the 1970’s ? CO2 and temperature are not coorelated … no coorelation = no causation …

Reply to  Warren Beeton
May 13, 2024 9:43 am

The cause of global warming is the annual release of 40 billion tons of CO2″

No it isn’t.

MarkW
Reply to  Warren Beeton
May 13, 2024 12:07 pm

Funny how there is no correlation between the emissions of CO2 and the temperature of the planet. Either in the short term or the long.

Reply to  Warren Beeton
May 13, 2024 10:08 pm

What about all the CO2 emissions produced from the peak temperature in 1941 to 1975, when the world was generally cooling???? Special magic fossil fuels that ran out during that time?

Why was it warmer during the Minoan, Roman and the Middle Ages?

Why are you scared about roughly a degree of warming over a century?

Why do you think ice covered tundra is better than the grasslands and forests that that they once were?

Reply to  Warren Beeton
May 14, 2024 4:03 am

No, it isn’t

Rich Davis
Reply to  Warren Beeton
May 15, 2024 3:12 pm

We can only hope. Warmer is better. But unfortunately the warming is trivial.

Reply to  BurlHenry
May 13, 2024 10:01 pm

I don’t know why you got downvoted – there is much more correlation between the beginning of pollution controls and the start of warming in 1975-ish – after 30 years of cooling regardless of all the emissions during WW2, the reconstruction of Europe afterwards, and all the other post-war development all around the world up to 1975 – than with CO2 emissions.

Ronald Stein
May 13, 2024 6:22 am

Everything that needs electricity is made with the oil derivatives manufactured from crude oil, INCLUDING all the parts of wind turbines, solar panels, and EV vehicles. In an all-electric world, there will be nothing to power without oil!

In a world policymakers want to be dominated by wind turbines and solar panels to generate occasional electricity whenever the wind blows or the sun shines, there will be nothing to “electrify” as there will be nothing that needs electricity. We cannot manufacture anything without fossil fuels, and they are the raw materials of everything we take for granted.

In the 1800’s nothing needed electricity. There was none.

May 13, 2024 6:36 am

“SA set to export nuclear reactors in 5 years”
Watch the video by South African nuclear physicist Dr. Kelvin Kemm

https://www.biznews.com/interviews/2024/05/09/sa-set-export-nuclear-5-years

Also read Dr Kemm’s excellent article: HBO’s Falsified Chernobyl ‘Documentary’ – OpEd

https://www.eurasiareview.com/08072019-hbos-falsified-chernobyl-documentary-oped/

Sensible and competent people like Dr Kemm need to be allowed to explain nuclear to politicians and regulators. The same applies to explaining climate and weather to the politicians by sensible and competent people who know what they are talking about.

Curious George
Reply to  Michael in Dublin
May 13, 2024 7:56 am

Due diligence indicated before ordering.

Reply to  Michael in Dublin
May 13, 2024 10:16 pm

Sounds like a PR con job to drive up their stock. S. Africa desperately needs reliable power, but it needs to get rid of corruption and graft even more.

Reply to  PCman999
May 13, 2024 10:32 pm
JamesB_684
May 13, 2024 6:57 am

Providing reliable energy capacity is not the real intent of Net Zero policy. Increasing the cost and limiting access to goods, services and travel is the first order goal. The second order goal is increasing control over the people.

tedms
May 13, 2024 7:06 am

Unmentioned in this article about what is holding back nuclear energy is the unsolved problem of nuclear waste. Until there is an actual solution with storing such waste for thousands of years nuclear plants should not be built.

Curious George
Reply to  tedms
May 13, 2024 7:30 am

Nuclear waste is a political problem, not a technical one.

tedms
Reply to  Curious George
May 13, 2024 7:52 am

Even if you define the problem with nuclear waste as “a political problem, not a technical one” the argument still stands. Until there is an actual solution with storing such waste for thousands of years nuclear plants should not be built.

paul courtney
Reply to  tedms
May 13, 2024 9:00 am

Mr. ms: In the US, we call the solution you seek “Yucca Mountain”. Are you unaware of it? I know it’s not taking deposits, but it could today if NV didn’t have idiots for elected officials. What do you think, if what you seek is there and complies with your specs, but politicians are stopping it?

tedms
Reply to  paul courtney
May 13, 2024 10:25 am

Yes, I am aware of Yucca Mountain. I am also aware that it is dead as a proposed site for long-term storage. Some of the criticisms for this site included the existence of fractures in the mountain that could serve as a conduit of water to the waste site and then to the environment.

MarkW
Reply to  tedms
May 13, 2024 12:10 pm

It’s dead because of politicians. Yet more proof that the problem is political not technical.

tedms
Reply to  MarkW
May 13, 2024 2:22 pm

Yes, politicians killed the project but you did not address the technical problem mentioned above.

MarkW
Reply to  tedms
May 13, 2024 3:21 pm

The claims of problems were all addressed, there was no technical issues involved. It was a 100% political decision.

tedms
Reply to  MarkW
May 13, 2024 5:14 pm

Please cite the study that addressed the existence of fractures in the mountain that could serve as a conduit of water to the nuclear waste site and then to the environment.

Reply to  Curious George
May 13, 2024 9:36 am

“Nuclear waste is a political problem, not a technical one.”

Really???

So, independent of politics, what technical approach has be deemed to be generally “acceptable”—in the USA—for addressing the long term storage or reprocessing of nuclear waste radionuclides having half-lives of, oh, 10,000 years or more? (For reference, plutonium-239 has a half-life of 24,100 years and is a byproduct of the fission reaction used by U-235 fueled nuclear reactors to produce power.)

Waiting . . .

MarkW
Reply to  ToldYouSo
May 13, 2024 12:11 pm

Reprocess the fuel and use those long lived radionuclides as fuel.

Problem solved.

tedms
Reply to  MarkW
May 13, 2024 2:12 pm

Even France that reuses nuclear fuel has to deal with its nuclear waste. The problem is not solved.

MarkW
Reply to  tedms
May 13, 2024 3:22 pm

After reprocessing, the only “waste” left is the stuff that only needs to be stored for a few decades.

tedms
Reply to  MarkW
May 13, 2024 3:47 pm

Wrong. Please cite a source stating that “after reprocessing, the only ‘waste’ left is the stuff that only needs to be stored for a few decades.”

Reply to  MarkW
May 13, 2024 2:16 pm

“Problem solved”

Except for the scientific fact that not all of long-lived radionuclides can be used to produce power in nuclear fission reactors . . . many are neither fissile or fissionalbe. Nuclear (power) chain reactions require requires both the release of neutrons from fissile isotopes and the subsequent absorption of some of these neutrons in fissile isotopes.

Fissile materials can fission by absorbing a neutron with very low kinetic energy. U-235, Pu-239, Pu-241 are all fissile.

Fissionable materials can fission by absorbing a neutron if it has enough kinetic energy. The neutron has to bring enough kinetic energy to the nucleus to cause it to fission. U-238, Pu-240 are fissionable.

All fissile nuclides are fissionable, but only some fissionable nuclides are also fissile.

Nuclear physics 101. Nuclear fission reactor design 102.

cgh
Reply to  tedms
May 13, 2024 7:50 am

There are plenty of solutions to used nuclear fuel. Kindly stop ignoring them.

Your notion of “thousands of years” is simply ridiculous. The half-life of uranium is counted in hundreds of millions to billions of years. Do you intend to outlaw or ban seawater?

tedms
Reply to  cgh
May 13, 2024 8:52 am

“There are plenty of solutions to used nuclear fuel.” Not one of these so called “solutions” have been adopted by the US.

Reply to  tedms
May 13, 2024 9:24 am

Because of POLITICS, I live right next door to the Hanford Nuclear Reservation where politics and greenretards help shut down the construction of a nuclear plant.

The solutions of used nuclear fuels have been solved back in the 1960’s but politics and greenretards oppose the full reprocessing that would greatly reduce waste the way France has been doing for decades already.

You are way behind fella.

The Dark Lord
Reply to  tedms
May 13, 2024 9:31 am

we don’t have a waste problem becasue we don’t use much nuclear power … look at France …

Reply to  The Dark Lord
May 14, 2024 10:08 am

OK . . . I looked at France:

“France has 18 commercial nuclear power plants with a total of 56 operable reactors.”
https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-a-f/france

I also looked at the US, using the same website:
“The USA is the world’s largest producer of nuclear power, accounting for about 30% of worldwide generation of nuclear electricity.”
The US currently has 94 operable reactors, about 68% more than France.
https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-t-z/usa-nuclear-power

OK, now what?

MarkW
Reply to  tedms
May 13, 2024 12:12 pm

Because the politicians won’t permit there to be solutions.
Hence the original comment that the problem is political, not technical.

paul courtney
Reply to  cgh
May 13, 2024 9:01 am

Mr, h: Agreed, there’s a trollish scent to this one.

tedms
Reply to  paul courtney
May 13, 2024 11:06 am

Why trollish? Because I disagree with using nuclear energy as a substitute for fossil fuels to solve a non-existent problem with CO2 but introduces the specter of actual long-term radiation hazards?

MarkW
Reply to  tedms
May 13, 2024 12:13 pm

The fact that you believe that there is a long term with no solution that you are willing to accept, is proof of trolldom.

tedms
Reply to  MarkW
May 13, 2024 2:03 pm

So called “fossil fuels” coal, oil, and natural gas has served humanity well. They can continue to do so particularly in the USA with plenty of such deposits. The “problem” with CO2 is greatly overstated. Nuclear power is like a Rube Goldberg machine, overly complicated with no solution adopted by the US to its nuclear waste.

Even France that reuses nuclear fuel has to deal with its nuclear waste. It is the US, not I, that has no long-term plan for dealing with such waste.

MarkW
Reply to  tedms
May 13, 2024 3:23 pm

The problems with nuclear waste have all been solved. It’s a non-issue taken up by those who ulterior motives.

tedms
Reply to  MarkW
May 13, 2024 5:01 pm

Tell that to the US that has no long-term plan for dealing with nuclear waste.

Reply to  cgh
May 13, 2024 2:31 pm

“The half-life of uranium is counted in hundreds of millions to billions of years.”

Uhhhhh . . . uranium has many isotopes . . . you seem to be referring to the low radioactivity isotopes of U-235 and U-238.

U-232, U-233, U-234 and U-236 have much shorter half-lives.

Also, you post:

“There are plenty of solutions to used nuclear fuel.”

Would you care to inform us a few that YOU deem are practical at this time? Many would like to know.

old cocky
Reply to  ToldYouSo
May 13, 2024 7:53 pm

U-232, U-233, U-234 and U-236 have much shorter half-lives.

According to wikipedia (take that as you will), U-232 has a half-life of tens of years, U233 and U234 tens of thousands, and U236 tens of millions.

There are also a number of isotopes with half-lives in the micro-second, millisecond and second range, and a couple with a few days.

Which do you regard as being a storage problem?

Reply to  old cocky
May 14, 2024 8:49 am

“According to wikipedia (take that as you will), U-232 has a half-life of tens of years, U233 and U234 tens of thousands, and U236 tens of millions.”

Thank you for the confirmation . . . as I stated, these half-lives are all much shorter that the “hundreds of millions to billions of years” that you mentioned being the “half-life of uranium”.

As to answering your question “Which do you regard as being a storage problem?”, given the context of discussing nuclear waste from fission reactors:
1) the most dangerous long-life (half-lives in excess of 1,000 years) radionuclides in spent nuclear fuel are the gamma ray emitters Sn-126, Zr-93 and I-129,
2) also dangerous are minor actinide (i.e., exclusive of plutonium) isotopes of transuranic elements elements found in spent nuclear fuel, the most dangerous of these being neptunium-237, americium-243 (a gamma ray emitter), curium-245 through -248 and curium-250 (some decay via gamma ray emission), all of which have half-lives well beyond 1,000 years.

old cocky
Reply to  ToldYouSo
May 14, 2024 4:45 pm

Thanks for pointing out the decay products, although that wasn’t the question.
Just as a matter of interest, where do the trans-uranics come from? Is there some form of fusion occurring, or are they impurities or decay products of impurities?

as I stated, these half-lives are all much shorter that the “hundreds of millions to billions of years” that you mentioned being the “half-life of uranium”.

Please check who you’re replying to. cgh made the original claim, which is pretty much correct for naturally occurring isotopes. The shorter-lived ones have already decayed. You brought up the shorter half-lives of U-232, U-233, U-234 and U-236. It seemed worth noting their half-lives and the myriad of short-lived isotopes.

The Dark Lord
Reply to  tedms
May 13, 2024 9:29 am

breeder reactors are the solution … an actual real world solution …

antigtiff
Reply to  tedms
May 13, 2024 9:49 am

Copenhagen Atomics have answers for all questions….they point out that the coal industry has killed and is still killing people in numbers far beyond nuclear.

MarkW
Reply to  antigtiff
May 13, 2024 12:14 pm

I read somewhere that there is more energy in the uranium found in a ton of coal, then you can get from the chemical energy available in a ton of coal.

MarkW
Reply to  tedms
May 13, 2024 12:09 pm

The problem of nuclear waste was solved over 50 years ago.
Reprocess it, and the problem goes away.

The greenies who hate cheap energy have prevented the US from using the solution that the rest of the world already uses.

Reply to  MarkW
May 13, 2024 2:56 pm

“The problem of nuclear waste was solved over 50 years ago.”

“Solved”??? . . . I think not.

“The U.S. has 88,000 metric tons of spent fuel in nuclear power plants in around 30 states and adds 2,000 tons each year.”
“Right now, U.S. nuclear power plants store the spent fuel in giant concrete cylinders that are more than 10 feet tall with layers of concrete and stainless steel several inches thick.”
https://whyy.org/segments/us-nuclear-waste-store-tons/
(my bold emphasis added)

ROTFL from seeing such ignorance.

MarkW
Reply to  ToldYouSo
May 13, 2024 3:25 pm

Speaking of ignorance, you should be proud of yours.
The only reason why the power plants have to store the stuff is because Jimmy Carter shut down reprocessing and Harry Reid shut down Yucca Flats.

The problems have been solved, the trouble is that those who are against nuclear power won’t permit the solutions to be implemented.

Reply to  MarkW
May 14, 2024 9:17 am

“The only reason why the power plants have to store the stuff is because Jimmy Carter shut down reprocessing and Harry Reid shut down Yucca Flats.”

“As of 2023, Canada’s existing inventory is about 3.3 million used nuclear fuel bundles. If stacked like cordwood, all this used nuclear fuel could fit into about nine NHL hockey rinks from the ice surface to the top of the boards. At the end of the planned operation of Canada’s existing nuclear reactors, the number of used fuel bundles could total about 5.6 million.”
https://www.nwmo.ca/en/canadas-used-nuclear-fuel

“In 2021, the volume of radioactive waste stored or to be stored in France was around 1.8 million cubic meters. Over one million of them were of low-to-intermediate or very low radioactivity and required short-term management. The remaining eight percent of the total nuclear waste present on the French territory in 2021 had a lifetime of hundreds of thousands of years.”
Nuclear waste present in France 2021, by level of radioactivity, published by M. Garside, Apr 26, 2024 as linked at https://www.statista.com/statistics/463624/france-radioactive-waste-nuclear-industry-by-type/

“4,801 MTU spent nuclear fuel in storage (2016)
11,772 MTU spent nuclear fuel projected by 2050 . . .
“Fuel from the single PWR is first stored in a pond and then put in a new dry independent spent fuel storage installation, constructed to keep up with the reactor’s lifetime output
“Reprocessing has become largely unpopular in the UK; there are no plans to replace the closed LWR and AGR fuel Thermal Oxide Reprocessing Plant (THORP) or the Magnox reprocessing plant, expected to close in 2020”
https://www.stimson.org/2020/spent-nuclear-fuel-united-kingdom/

“The second critical challenge is increasing spent fuel in storage. Japan has been utilizing nuclear power generation for more than half a century and has 19,000 tons of spent fuel in storage. Spent fuel stocks are managed by respective nuclear power stations (NPSs) within the maximum controlled capacities determined for each NPS. The controlled capacities in all facilities across Japan total 24,000 tons, 80% (19,000 tons) of which is occupied as of 2023.”
https://www.enecho.meti.go.jp/en/category/special/article/detail_186.html

Now, you started off saying something about ignorance . . .

Curious George
May 13, 2024 7:28 am

No mention of the dirty word “France”.

May 13, 2024 8:41 am

From the above article:
” ‘The incentives in the IRA and infrastructure bills are a “great start,” but “more assistance for cost overruns and early mover support for first-of-a-kind advanced reactors would also be helpful,’ Starkey told the DCNF.”
(my bold emphasis added)

Hmmmm . . . read that carefully and it basically says that cost overruns for “first-of-a-kind advanced reactors” are inevitable . . . that it is simply not possible to get a reasonable/conservative cost estimate for such.

With such an attitude, one might expect to see actual costs allocated to future rate payers be, oh, 2X to 10X that being fronted at the time of selling such projects to governmental and regulatory bureaucracies . . . kinda like what is being seen right now with offshore wind turbines.

The Dark Lord
May 13, 2024 9:19 am

The only Agenda nuclear power can possibly help is a President 12-15 years from now when the first new nuke plant comes online assuming it gets approved TODAY …

rxc6422
May 13, 2024 10:57 am

“Historically, major nuclear incidents — Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukushima — have caused significant environmental damage or loss of life, and often are followed by increases in regulation designed to prevent another disaster.”

This is a flat-out lie. No one was harmed by the accident at TMI. Based on the discredited theory of collective dose, some people might, in the future, suffer from cancers that they would not have otherwise experienced, but no one knows who that will be, or has been.

The only known direct fatality at Chernobyl was the poor guy who was standing right above the reactor when it exploded. One guy. Yes, about 35 firefighters died. They die all the time, fighting fires. How many died running into the WTC buildings? Long term claims of radiation induced cancers are worse than TMI , but suffer from the same problems.

An increase in thyroid cancers was identified, and I think that a few of thise people died, but they were being studied extensively to identify the cancers. Large amounts of land have been isolated, but researchers have discovered that the wildlife population has increased enormously because hunting is forbidden. Where is the ” significant environmental damage and loss of life”?

No one died at Fukishima, either, although I heard that a Japanese court has ruled that ONE person developed cancer because of the accident, and was entitled to compensation. Where is the significant environmental damage? 30,000 people were killed directly by the tsunami, including hundreds on a train.

What rubbish.

Reply to  rxc6422
May 13, 2024 3:07 pm

“Where is the significant environmental damage?”

(regarding the Fukushima nuclear disaster)

Well, in answer to your question:
“A large area around the Fukushima nuclear power plant will be uninhabitable for at least 100 years.”
https://www.loe.org/blog/blogs.html?seriesID=30&blogID=7

And

“Some studies investigating the effects of the Fukushima nuclear disaster on birds and insects have reported population declines in some species, as well as declines in overall biodiversity among these groups in the exclusion zones.”
https://www.britannica.com/story/nuclear-exclusion-zones

MarkW
Reply to  ToldYouSo
May 13, 2024 3:27 pm

Amazing groups with long standing anti-nuclear agendas are taken as gospel, while people who actually know what they are talking about are ignored.

I guess when your mind is dominated by fear of even tiny amounts of radiation, it becomes impossible to view anything rationally.

Reply to  MarkW
May 14, 2024 8:55 am

You’re exactly right . . . you are guessing.

Reply to  ToldYouSo
May 14, 2024 4:10 am

LOL!

Massive decline in bee populations coincident with the advent of win farms in the UK.
Massive increase in deer populations, coincident with the building of a solar farm.

coincidence is not causality.

Reply to  Leo Smith
May 14, 2024 8:54 am

Did you mean to post that to britannica.com ?

May 13, 2024 5:32 pm

Automobile accidents have killed about 5 million people in the US since they were first introduced, and about 45,000 deaths per year now.

Reply to  scvblwxq
May 16, 2024 7:15 am

. . . and, of course, as everyone knows, automobiles are very similar to nuclear power plants, the subject of the above WUWT article.

/sarc off

Fishlaw
May 13, 2024 6:58 pm

I lay 90% of the blame at the door of Jimmy Carter. He worked for “The Father of the Nuclear Navy”, Admiral Rickover, and therefore Carter had intimate knowledge of the safety and reliability of nuclear power. He took office during the OPEC crisis and he did not do a damn thing to push nuclear power plants. If he had done his job, as a leader, we would be flush with electricity. What a loser.

May 14, 2024 12:35 am

Historically, major nuclear incidents — Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukushima — have caused significant environmental damage or loss of life, and often are followed by increases in regulation designed to prevent another disaster.

Er no. Three mile Island killed no one and had no impact on the environment. Fukushima killed no one and had minimal impact on the environment. In fact if Fukushima had been allowed to vent the mildly radioactive hydrogen it wouldn’t have had a gas explosion either. The regulations caused part of the accident.

Even the worst of the worst – Chernobyl – killed less than a hundred – mainly fire fighters – and had far far less effect on the environment than anyone except the few who knew, expected.

Its time to stop tacitly accepting the myth that ‘nuclear power is dangerous in an accident’ when its clear that far more environmental damage is caused by arrays of bird choppers and sunlight blocking solar panels even when they are working as designed.

In addition its time to stop comparing the cost of a power station to the cost of a windmill, when the windmill without backup and grid upgrades, can’t do the same job.

People need to consider the renewable grid with all its extra bolt on kit to an all nuclear grid.

Reply to  Leo Smith
May 14, 2024 7:25 am

I would add that Chernobyl is completely irrelevant since it was of a design and construction that would never be allowed in the west (or anywhere else now) and a major contributing factor to the accident was the deliberate bypass of key safety systems.

rxc6422
Reply to  Fraizer
May 14, 2024 8:11 am

I don’t want to sound like someone who is defending RBMK designs, but I have to say that the reactor at Chernobyl did try to protect itself several times before the actual reactivity insertion event. The operators and the people running the test turned off a number of safety features well before the actual accident, and they did their very best to override the safety systems and establish the state of the reactor at the very tip of an unstable regime, well outside the limits of the intended design. It was only waiting the actual start of the test to set off the reactivity insertion event.

The AEC built a “similar” graphite moderated, water cooled reactor at Hanford, because it was good for dual use applications, and the AEC built all sorts of different types of reactors during its history. Some were more successful than others. And we even had our own really bad reactivity insertion accident (SL-1), which killed 3 operators and made a mess in Idaho back in the early 60s. We learned from all these designs, and from the various accidents and “interesting events”, so that the current reactor designs are quite stable, safe, and reliable.

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