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Florida Passes Legislation to Stop Lab Grown Meat
- Wednesday, December 24, 2025
Well, it is symbolic. Useless, but symbolic.
As there is a presumption that the availability of “lab grown meat” will enable militant vegans to try to ban actual natural meat. Sillyass response to an equally sillyass animal rights movement.
Agreed. There is no need to ban that which is not going to happen anyway for many reasons. It looks bad.
I’ll bet it doesn’t taste good either
A serious problem from the taste perspective is that lab grown meat has no fat.
What percentage of people know the brain is largely fat.
“Your brain also contains cells, nerve fibers, arteries, and arterioles. It also contains fat and is the fattiest organ in the body — nearly 60 percent fat.”
I wonder if the incessant war on fat has contributed to poor brain function, alzheimers, memory loss, strokes and other problems. A normal diet with meat containis up to 30% fat. School health courses never mention fat in the brain. Much of the non-fat is the protein content of aretries and the rest of the network of blood vessels.
https://www.healthline.com/health/is-the-brain-a-muscle
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Do the artificial meat makers know the composition of the brain? Do they know that tofu has an estrogen-like substance that fools the body into thinking it is a high source of estrogen and can cause man boobs and erectile dysfunction?
Oh the internet is flooded with ‘protesteth-too-much’ denials that come from from the vegan industry nutrition folk. But the “myth” comes from a case of a man who went to his doctor worried that he suddenly began to grow big man boobs. Asked what he was doing differently and the fellow said he began drinking soy milk daily several months earlier.
Some denials mention this case but the find fault with it:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2024/04/20/soy-milk-men-breasts-myth/
“I haven’t seen any data that leads me to believe that drinking soy milk or eating soy products promotes feminization in men, meaning breast growth, or any other …
…”At least two early studies each described a single case of soy consumption linked to feminizing effects in men, among them enlarged breasts, erectile dysfunction and decreased libido. But experts pointed out that the two subjects each consumed unusually high amounts of soy —”
are you guys relieved with this takedown of the myth?
But is it non “GMO”? 😎
Geez, guy, have you shopped in a supermarket anytime in the last ten years? Commercial food products have been flogging artificial meat for years. This is not a theoretical threat – it is an actual today threat.
fake vegetable meat, not lab grown meat.
toxic fake vegetable and process oil meat that contains 5 unlicensed and untested chemical oils and 3 more untested ingredients derived from plants not normally eaten even in their source environments, plus 3x as much salt
Nothing wrong with getting in front of the Left. How many awful policies and programs that were on the ‘progressive’ wish list 10 – 20 years ago are now in force? It also makes sense that the states take this action, not the Federales.
Right- who’d of thought we’d have net zero policies forced down our throats.
It also makes sense that the states take this action
While I agree about preferring state over federal action (pretty much across the board), I don’t understand the celebration of banning this. If any action is to be taken, require that lab-grown meat be clearly identified as such. Then let the market decide.
We don’t want ICE’s banned, would we be in favor of banning EVs?
I agree that the market should ‘decide’, or better yet, be allowed to affect individual preferences. The problem is that the Left doesn’t agree and has a well-established record of implementing bans and mandates in every area of economic activity.
If it turns out that synthetic meat is the greatest thing since sliced bread, FL’s ban will be rapidly and painlessly swept away. Conversely, if it evolves into another one of the Left’s woke wet dreams, the good people of FL will at least have some protection against a Federal mandate.
Ideally, then, the best outcome would be for FL to wait for, and react to, a Federal mandate by nullifying its implementation within the state. But this being politics, they went for a less preferable course of action.
lab grown meat will have toxic dumps beside the factory just like pigs but some of the dumped materials WON’T simply be antibiotics… there will be a LOT of growth hormones and other chemistry used to pump the meat
There’s just something very, very weird about the idea of lab grown meat.
lab grown tissues cultures have been used for medical purposes for decades. In that arena they are quite useful.
All of politics is and always has been about symbolism. Humans communicate and think through symbolism. Nothing silly about recognizing that there are forces in the world today determined to wreck our standard of living and, among other things, force us to eat bugs and lab grown “meat”. It’s real, not a fake concern.
Gov. DeSantis stands on the forefront of turning ideas, beliefs, and symbols into concrete action. He is the only Governor who has ever served who willingly took on one of the largest and most recognized corporations in the world on their home turf. The howling was immense from the left and the smug Democrats who were determined to grind DeSantis and the Florida Legislature into the dust
Of course, it did not turn out that way. The legislation denying woke Disney’s sweetheart backroom deal with a Democratic governor and legislature 60 years ago – a deal no other private entity has ever enjoyed in the history of the state – remains the law, and Disney quietly gave up their “symbolic” lawsuit against DeSantis and the State of Florida, and of course the rest of woke world pretended “move along now, nothing to see here.”
he’s doing things to encourage insular idiots to vote for him
he needs to burn in hell with Gaetz
So, who are the “7” idiots that voted you down?
The only idiots are those who voted him up.
Ahhhhh, you crying yet again makes me laugh! Go eat some bugs, loser.
The only idiots are those who voted him up.
Why? You favor banning products instead of letting the market decide?
There is no lab grown meat yet, and lawyers are already circling.
Curious ==> On the contrary, there may be no lab grown meat in Florida, but it is being served in California on a market test basis and has been approved for sale in Singapore and the United States.
“The lab-grown chicken sold in Singapore came from the San Francisco-based company Eat Just, the parent company of Good Meat. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) gave Upside Foods its approval in November 2022, after working with them for more than four years, and Good Meat received FDA approval in March 2023.”
Not so “Curious George” could just as easily change his handle to “Clueless George”.
Making statements of such ignorance just shows he is not so curious as to actually do a VERY LITTLE bit of research.
Where can I buy lab grown meat, and how much does it cost?
I should think it’s a matter of definition. If it didn’t come from an animal- it shouldn’t be called meat. It could be called fake meat.
“it is being served in California on a market test basis”
Link, please.
Link, please.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/01/business/lab-grown-chicken-san-francisco/index.html
Yes, the vultures are circling. 🙂
do they like lab-grown meat as well?
“Lab grown meat” is any artificial meat … i.e., a product claimed to be like meat but has no animal flesh in it. These products have been selling for years throughout the world.
incorrect. Lab grown meat is not a vegetable substitute, it is actual animal tissue grown, essentially, in petri dishes (but of course significantly larger vessels).
Two observations beyond good for DeSantis.
First, “WEF says consumption of naturally grown meat is the source of GHG and climate change.” True they say that. But it is NOT true. Methane is a GHG in the lab in a dry atmosphere, but not in the real world averaging 2% specific humidity. Methane’s two narrow short IR absorption bands are completely swamped by two much broader and taller water vapor absorption bands. Ruminant digestion contributes nothing to climate change.
Second, central Florida north of Okeechobee up to Orlando, and north of Orlando to near Gainsville, is BIG beef cattle country. Florida even has cowboys. The west coast north of Naples and Big Cypress is big tomato country. The area east and northeast of Okeechobee is big citrus country, centered around Indian River County. The big 3 of Florida ag. We leave regional pork to the Carolinas, and regional chickens to Georgia.
“Ruminant digestion contributes nothing to
climate changeglobal warming.Stop using their language
Rud ==> You know who owns much of that cattle land…..Deseret Ranches. 300,000 acres
KH, thanks. I did not know that. Interesting.
But probably irrelevant in the larger picture as lab grown is unlikely to go very far without extensive regulation and legislation against animal grown.
That’s about 450 sq. miles- or a square a bit more than 20 miles on a side. Not much in a large state like FL.
Has anyone done a cost comparison vs feeding the cows Beano?
Hard to do when lab beef does not yet exist at scale. Pretty sure cows would win. And Beano isn’t necessary since methane is not a significant GHG in the real world.
“Lab grown” is nothing but a common or colloquial description of any artificial meat. There has been large scale production and distribution of artificial meat for many years. It is a real thing, not science fiction.
Link, please.
Just go to Amazon and type “plant-based meat” in the search box.
vegetable concocts attempting to ape meat, not at all similar to animal tissues grown in a lab.
Would adding that chemical to cow feed (free range is still pretty extensive) actually have much effect on the amount of methane burped out?
Insects are a good source of protein and have been staples in the diets of may peoples over the past 300000 years.
The unanswered question is, how much energy is needed to produce the quantities of insects needed to feed the world, how much processing to make them palatable to normal 21st century people, and given all the ducks are lined up, what % of the people will willingly choose them for their diets?
Lab grown meat. Do we not have enough problems with overly processed foods? The wave of non GMO vegetables will likely become a tsunami with this. What long term studies (over 10 years) of the impacts to human biology have been completed?
Just another fad, I hope.
I prefer to eat my insects in the form of chicken.
Range chicken.
Birds are dinosaurs!
I’ve heard prawns/shrimps described as the locusts of the sea.
A nice King Prawn Madras. Yummy.
That, of course, is why Neanderthal and Cro Magnon cave art is full of pictures of ruminants being hunted.
Ancient peoples did hunt. They also gathered. They ate whatever they could get their hands on.
I did not say exclusively bugs. Staple does not mean primary or exclusive.
Most people would rather starve than eat bugs. Then again, when I see a lobster- it looks like a huge bug!
This parallels the high energy density of oil/methane/coal and easy of processing, transportation, and use.
Beef is high protein, easy processing, transportation, and use.
What is wrong with these people?
In all fairness, the so-called fake meat might have a place in space ( no poem intended) for long duration missions, but somehow they gotta convince me that it not only tastes good, but has all those amino acids and vitamins and minerals and even the fat that real steaks provide. SPAM and vienna sausage prolly best choice for now and near term.
Anyway, our govmnt here has even more than Rud mentioned, like many, many strawberry patches all around east and south of Tampa and yes, citrus plantations until south west of the lake where we see sugarcane and then palm tree plantations.
And many of you thot it was all oranges and grapefruits, lemons and limes down here. Oh yeah, then there’s trees once north of Tampa all the way to the ‘bama border of the Panhandle and/or north into Georgia for paper, lumber and those pellets coming into favor as in the U.K. Peanuts anyone? Try south Geoorgia/’bama and Florida all the way to I-10.
Nice place to settle down once awway from the big metros.
Gums promotes…
Didn’t know about the strawberries.
Forgot big sugar, a powerful force in FL politics. We only use Florida Crystals ‘turbinado cane sugar’, because unrefined and local. The one good thing Jeb Bush did as Gov was strike a big sugar deal to buy back some of their land south of Okeechobee, to partly recreate the natural Everglades headwaters pathway big sugar completely destroyed before anybody knew Everglades was actually a river, not a swamp. Unfortunately, Gov Rick Scott did not follow through with the promised funding.
Humans cannot survive long in space (spending a year in low orbit is already detrimental to health, and getting out of Earth magnetic field would expose them to high radiation), but even if they could, the energy consumption of fake meat production would make it impractical.
But, but… is the lab meat treated ethically? /s
As long as they don’t shake the test tubes too hard …
So they propose that the backyard BBQ be replaced by a bug zapper with a bucket underneath?
The question is not: Should “Lab Grown Meat™” be banned?
That, to me, is a stupid question. The question is “Should Lab Grown Meat be mandated, subsidized by governments, forced down the throats of us citizens (sorry — not punny)? Has Lab Grown Meat (each specific product) been thoroughly tested as safe for human consumption? tested for unintended ingredients from chemical reactions? etc etc etc Tested for allergic reactions? All those things….on thing is sure, it is not “just meat”.
Florida, however, has every right to protect it’s billion-dollar beef industry.
Back in the day, Wisconsin, a diary state, banned the sale of margarine — referred to as “fake butter”. Michigan, I believe, settled for banning “yellow” margarine, to prevent consumers from confusing it with real butter.
Lab Grown Meat still has to be grown….it requires the same inputs, in different formats, as farm-raised meat. It is not magically “created from nothing” in laboratories.
Let’s see a good piece on what, exactly, those inputs are and exactly where they come from….
Back in the day, I got the task of making the oleomargarine yellow.
In 1951, the W. E. Dennison Company received U.S. patent 2,553,513 for a method to place a capsule of yellow dye inside a plastic package of margarine. After purchase, the capsule was broken by pressing on the outside of the package, and then the package was kneaded to distribute the dye. [Wikipedia]
John ==> You’re piece of history!
Yes, at some point the 800 lb. gorilla will attempt to subsidize/ mandate this. Very much the obverse of what they did in the Carolene Products case, the ill effects of which we’re still suffering. All the more reason for the states, as sovereign per the 10th Amendment, to get in front of this.
PS – The diary state?
Frankinmeat
So much for free markets…
Amen brother.
Good lad.
I was curious about the progress with lab grown meat, since it was first demoed as hamburger in 2013. Lab grew beef and fat separately, then ‘ground’ together.
So I did an hour of quick research. DeSantis sure grabbed headlines.
Turns out lab grown chicken is being served on a very limited novelty basis in Singapore. Apparently there are real difficulties in further scaling production to bigger bioreactors to lower cost. Chicken is easiest because it doesn’t have fat marbling. Also by far lowest meat value. Unlikely to build a viable business that way.
As of YE 2022 there were over 150 companies trying to develop lab meat, backed by $2.6 billion. Other than the one US company serving small quantities of lab chicken in Singapore, nobody else has anything yet. That is a whole lot of failure for $2.6 billion of investment.
Finally, the green crowd has already declared that lab grown meat is NOT vegetarian or vegan despite no live animals being involved. Of course—it is the principle of the thing, not the thing itself, that matters. Meat ain’t vegetable.
Unless one chooses to rename the Boca Burgers.
Rud ==> Yes, I wasted a half-hour finding out the same “almost nothing….”.
I’d like to know how they determine the meatness or vegetableness of lab grown cells….
Here is the thing I don’t care what other people eat with a few exceptions. Growing meat(?) in a lab is your choice, eating meat(?) grown in a lab is your choice. I don’t think it should be called meat. None of that is a problem for me, my problem is the government. There is no way that they won’t stick their nose into the matter and demand we have to do this or that or not do this or that. Governments are full of power hungry control freaks who think they can control everything we can or can’t do. It is bad. Most elected politicians aren’t the problem, the problem is the lifetime bureaucrats and administrators and employees in all the various government departments.
Bob agree. There are three underlying root causes, and each has a simple solution.
‘So Paxton already sued.’
He’d be my pick to head up DoJ. Progressive heads would explode.
The words discrimination and segregation are neutral until a category is attached. Unfortunately these useful words have been weaponized.
You segregate your sox based on color. Should you go to prison for that?
You discriminate between Taco Bell and Burger King based on your personal tastes? Awaiting the prison sentence?
Sex discrimination is definitely different from gender identity discrimination is greatly different from sexual orientation discrimination is different from racial/ethnic/age discrimination.
The way Biden has bastardized Title IX is horrific and we will be suffering the consequences for years just as we did from Obama’s “Dear Colleague” letter (which was illegal and had horrific consequences).
I think the politicians are the problem. They a have the power to reform the system.
Politicians are indeed the problem.
The go with the “squeaky wheel gets the oil” when they should pursue the greatest good for the greatest number.
There is no human right to compete in athletics, especially self identifying the eligibility criteria.
if we eat all the bugs, what will the turkeys eat?
On my Wisconsin dairy farm, the wild turkey flocks are always finding lots of bugs in our alfalfa contours. Now that they are back, we don’t worry anymore about alfalfa bugs. Got wild turkey bug control.
No pesticide logic was simple. We supply class A milk to the big Richland dairy (bottled milk, yoghurt, sour cream, ice cream—no cheese), and applying pesticides to the alfalfa would not consistently permit a class A milk rating, plus would increase raw milk testing costs significantly.
Plus, since advent of ethanol, all our corn now goes to ethanol. We get back the spent distillers grain, an ideal ruminant feed supplement. So we grow less alfalfa and more corn. And my dairy farm makes more money. All good—turkeys, bugs, distillers grain, more money.
oops. i think we’re neighbors. now i need to behave. up by rockbridge
I’d have no problem with ethanol if its use wasn’t mandated. But it is – and the regulatory burden of compliance (RINS) falls on refiners rather than blenders, thereby creating a big financial disadvantage for small refiners lacking captive retail outlets. Not exactly Free Markets 101.
The original mandate made physical sense. Octane enhancer forcing replacement ground water polluting MTBE. And oxygenate enhancer reducing summer smog. The ethanol mandate was ‘up to 10%’. Depends on region and season. The 10% blendwall was set for premium gas in LA in summer. Has since been eased so that lots of places now sell pure regular gas with no ethanol at one pump, because of all the ethanol problems with small gas engines.
Someone who can do the math without DEI. Excellent.
I won’t be eating any tumor-meat.
Interesting reply. Some science helps clarify two simple responses.
Lab meat is derived either from stem cells or regular cells, never from tumor cells. There is a big difference.
Even eating cancerous tumor meat would likely not cause harm. The answer lies in how the evolved digestive system solved the alien protein immuno problem. It breaks all proteins down into just the constituent amino acids for absorption into the blood steam. So no immune response is possible, At that point, there is no aberrant tumor protein left to infect anything. BTW, the same basic biology puts the lie to all GMO complaints. Lack of understanding of basic biology.
The few human genetic exceptions—celiac and Crohns—are known digestive disorder diseases where the gut is ‘leaky’ prior to full protein digestion. In the former, the gut absorption cells are allergic to gluten before the wheat protein is fully digested into amino acids. In the latter, immune inflammation hits the gut mucosa before full digestion for reasons unknown.
There are of course possible exceptions. Prion disease (BCE, CWD KJD) partly proves misfolded proteins are not fully digested. At least in CWD, that is because the deer don’t contract it thru digestion, rather contact. In the case of BCE, it is probably because the prions get absorbed by the ruminant stomach prior to digestion. Now the KJD cannibal version is still a big rare question. Brains were cooked and eaten.
The only animal cell research I’ve done which required maintaining cell cultures was osteoblast motility, so I get what you are saying. I was just engaging in a bit of rhetoric.
I receive an education every time I read reader posts.
Thank you.
I was told it’s because prions are beta-bonded proteins which can’t be broken down by the digestive enzymes.
All life on this planet is based on carbon, and it starts in with CO2 in the air. Plants absorb it and turn it into various carbon compounds that become it’s structure. Animals (or insects) eat the plants and absorb these compounds into their own structure. These animals (or insects) are eaten by other animals and so on up the food chain, eventually everything dies and decomposes and the carbon is released back into the atmosphere as CO2 and methane and the cycle starts again. No animal (or insect) can make it’s food into more carbon than it contained in the first place. Eating insects and/or lab grown ‘meat’ will not affect this cycle one iota. Insects are a larger source of methane than human activity, and I have heard it said that grass will produce more methane if left to decompose in open atmosphere than it does in a cow’s digestive system. To be honest I’m not sure if that is true, but I doubt there would be a significant difference, and as we all know methane adds nothing to the GHE despite all the hype and drama. Most of the above I learned at school back in the 1960’s. What are they teaching these days?
Simlple, Shark…feelings count more than facts.
Gums sends…
Ever do any composting. You will discover grass decomposing does emit something (both CO2 and methane).
you will discover only if you’ve ordered your junior science kit.
The only possible results, good or bad, of lab grown meat will be in the legal restrictions against animal grown meat.