Modern Scientific Controversies 2024: The Monarch Wars — Part 2

Guest Essay by Kip Hansen — 8 February 2024 —1900 words/10 minutes

The science on Monarch Butterflies has been getting a shake-up over the last little while. I have taken a deeper dive in the topic and share what I have found.  Part 1 started out with this:

In the worlds of entomology, ecological conservation and threatened and endangered species, there is general agreement on some points about monarchs:

1)  The number of monarch butterflies that have been migrating to overwintering grounds have sharply decreased from the very high numbers seen in the 1980s and 1990s.

2)  Agricultural practices on the great plains of North America and elsewhere have changed to include the use of weed killing agents (Roundup) that have eliminated the once plentiful milkweeds that in the past co-inhabited fields of corn and soy beans.  Milkweed is important as monarchs lay eggs only on milkweeds and monarch larva (caterpillars) only eat milkweed leaves. 

3)  There are a great many advocacy groups oriented to “saving the monarchs” – some are science-oriented and do monarch tracking, counting and tagging.  Some encourage rearing monarchs or gathering and protecting monarch chrysalises until the butterfly emerges. Some encourage planting milkweeds and “butterfly gardens” and supply milkweed plants or seeds.

4)  Commercial enterprises have arisen that mass breed monarchs (and other butterflies) either for scientific purposes (biology or nature classes) or for sale to be released at celebrations such as weddings. [examples, not recommendations:  here and here ]

I covered the first item on the list, population numbers as counted at overwintering roosts in Mexico and California, in Part 1.

This essay will cover list item #2,  the broader issue of milkweeds, Roundup, and their effect on both the populations of Monarch Butterflies and Milkweed species.

If you search in Google for “Why have monarch populations declined?

Google will give you this answer, with a link to the Xerces Society:

“Loss of milkweed breeding habitat due to the widespread use of herbicide-resistant crops. Pesticide use, which kills non-target insects and degrades habitat. Climate change is affecting monarch populations in a number of ways. Logging and development have shrunk monarch overwintering sites.”

The above appears to be an AI response, taking the text of the captions of icons in the middle of the linked page.  The actual full text of the page linked contains this text:

Monarchs require suitable habitat that provides host plants for breeding and flowering plants to provide nectar for adults. In the case of monarchs, the loss of milkweed means the loss of breeding habitat. Loss of milkweed from prime migration routes is primarily due to the dramatic increase in the use of the herbicide resistant crops Commonly known as Roundup™ Ready Crops, these corn and soy crops are genetically modified to be resistant to glyphosate, a broad-spectrum herbicide that kills everything other than the resistant crop, including milkweed. Harsher winters in monarch overwintering sites have caused larger than usual die-offs. Erratic weather may also delay the emergence of milkweed in spring and change the bloom time of flowering plants that provide resources to migrating monarchs. Legal and illegal logging in the oyamel fir forests of Mexico where eastern monarchs overwinter has removed important winter cover for the species and impacted microclimates that protect the butterflies from extreme cold and precipitation. In California, many sites where western monarchs overwinter have been lost due to development.”

The Center for Biological Diversity uses this language:

“Monarchs are threatened by pesticides — including toxic neonicotinoids and herbicides, which are killing off the milkweed plants they need to survive — as well as urban development and climate change.”

Thogmartin et al. (2017) “Monarch butterfly population decline in North America: identifying the threatening processes“ concluded:

“A structural equation model implicates the loss of milkweed as the mechanism by which glyphosate application influences monarch butterfly population size.”

The World Wildlife Fund says:

“Milkweed is the only plant on which monarchs will lay their eggs and the only source of food for baby caterpillars. But urban planning and agricultural expansion have paved and plowed over millions of acres of milkweed.”

A podcast piece on national PBS had this to say, spoken by Scott Hoffman Black, executive director of the Xerces Society for Invertebrate Conservation:

“But on an individual level, whether you’re a gardener, a farmer, manage a park or even a National Wildlife Preserve, you can make sure that we’ve got milkweed in the landscape, native milkweed are the best, as you mentioned, it’s the only host plant for monarchs are these native milkweeds, but also a buffet of flowers. So these butterflies, as you mentioned, migrate long distances, and they need lots of fuel.”

Good enough for our purposes, the general overall point of agreement seems to be that monarch populations, numbers of monarch butterflies, has been greatly reduced due to loss of milkweeds in the general environment, and particularly in the vast fields of corn and soybeans that have shifted to Roundup™ Ready Crops which are no longer co-inhabited by wild native milkweeds, often coupled with the idea that insecticide use in agriculture and home lawns and gardens must be killing monarchs as well as targeted species.

So, if everyone is so certain that the problem, or a great part of it anyway, is the lack of milkweed which is necessary for monarchs to breed and raise each new generation:

What’s the controversy?

To have a scientific finding, it is necessary to actually do some science.  If your hypothesis is that fewer monarchs today has been caused by fewer milkweed plants than there were before, then it follows that someone, somehow, must accurately count monarch butterflies and someone must accurately count milkweed plants.  Since the hypothesis is about fewer – a comparative measure of quantity – then one needs to have past counts and present counts to compare.

First, do we have these counts for monarch butterflies in general?  In the public eye, in the eyes of the Xerces Society, in the eyes of the World Wildlife Fund, and others, the count that counts is the number of monarch butterflies at overwintering sites – estimated by the size of the roosts in California and by the acreage of roosts in Mexico.

But, as we learned in Part 1 of this series, something is going on here, and we don’t know what it is.   In 2020-2021, the Western Monarch roosts were almost nonexistent – fewer than 2,000 monarchs were found – few enough at some roosts to count individually.  Many called this an extinction event.  But, then — a miracle!  The next year, when all were expecting even worse news, the overwintering sites were full of monarchs, well over 200,000. 

According to Chip Taylor, easily the most knowledgeable of all monarch experts, that was simply impossible: “ .. it’s impossible for a cohort of 1849 overwintering monarchs to initiate a cascade of reproduction over 3-4 generations that would result in a large fall migratory population” the next year of over 200,000

I mention this because it means, undeniably, that something is not right, something is wrong, something is inaccurate about the Western Monarch counts as they are currently carried out.  They do not, could not, represent the actual number of free-living, free breeding monarchs west of the Rocky Mountains.  This discovery, which was entirely accidental, as it was sprung on the monarch world by Nature itself, casts the same doubt now about the “counts” of monarchs in the Mexican reserves.

How about counts of milkweed plants?   John Pleasants  produced a paper in 2016  estimating the number of milkweed plants lost to Roundup.   The USGS made a big deal about a follow-up paper by one of its employees Wayne E Thogmartin published in 2017  on the number of milkweeds we needed to add to save the monarchs.  Pleasants and Thogmartin co-authored (with others) “Density estimates of monarch butterflies overwintering in central Mexico” (which was eventually published but had been harshly reviewed) in which they mention that: “There is, however, considerable variation in published estimates of overwintering density, ranging from 6.9–60.9 million ha−1.”  From that impossibly wide range on the number of monarchs overwintering in Mexico, for this winter the estimate would be from 15.25 million to 135 million monarchs, they extrapolate the number of milkweed stems needing planting in the U.S. to “save the monarchs”.

Summarizing:  Neither Monarchs themselves nor the Milkweed plants their breeding success depends on have been counted in any scientifically dependable way – though there have been some efforts and we may have to accept the results as “the best we’ve got for now.”

Now along comes a paper published in August 2023, in CellPress’s Current Biology titled: ”Temporal matches between monarch butterfly and milkweed population changes over the past 25,000 years“ by John H. Boyle et al. that announces these findings:

  • Monarchs and milkweeds both had two concurrent population expansions in the past
  • Neither species shows signs of recent declines in effective population size

Say what?  What exactly do they mean: effective population size?

“The number of individuals that effectively participates in producing the next generation is named effective population size.”

This is quickly followed byRethinking Monarchs: Does the Beloved Butterfly Need Our Help?by Janet Marinelli on  January 15, 2024 in YaleEnvironment360

The lede to the article is:

The Eastern monarch butterfly has long been thought to be in peril, but new studies indicate that its U.S. populations are not in decline. Scientists say the biggest threat the species faces is from well-meaning people who rear the butterflies at home and release them.”

Further, in “Opposing global change drivers counterbalance trends in breeding North American monarch butterflies” by Michael S. Crossley et al. (2022) in Global Change Biology:

“Here, we compile >135,000 monarch observations between 1993 and 2018 from the North American Butterfly Association’s annual butterfly count to examine spatiotemporal patterns and potential drivers of adult monarch relative abundance trends across the entire breeding range in eastern and western North America. While the data revealed declines at some sites, particularly the US Northeast and parts of the Midwest, numbers in other areas, notably the US Southeast and Northwest, were unchanged or increasing, yielding a slightly positive overall trend across the species range. ….  Overall, our results suggest that population growth in summer is compensating for losses during the winter and that changing environmental variables have offsetting effects on mortality and/or reproduction.

Bottom Lines:

1.  Yes, monarch counts at overwintering sites, both in California and in Mexico, have been down.

2.  The very high counts of the 1980s and 1990s may well have been the boom years predictable by chaotic population dynamics (or mine here)

3.  The California “great rebound” shows that the counts may not be including all the overwintering monarchs – certainly not in California and, by extension, maybe not in Mexico.

4.  Using “effective population size”, it has been found the neither Monarchs or Milkweeds have declined overall.

5.  Monarchs do not need further protection and certainly do not need to be listed under the Endangered Species Act as “endangered”.

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Author’s Comment:

It takes a lot of nerve to do research and publish findings that are contrary to long-standing shared viewpoints in any field.  Kudos to those mentioned above who have done so.  We can only hope that the United States Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) and the National Marine Fisheries Service (NMFS) follow the letter of the law and use all available science before acting on the constant drumbeat of demand to list the Monarchs as endangered.

One more part to this series, I think, on the last two points on the list.

Thanks for reading.

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Tom Halla
February 8, 2024 10:37 am

The Center for Biological Diversity are being their normal selves. Neonicotinoid pesticides are seed treatments, which act as a systemic against sucking insects on the crop treated. As no one is planting milkweed treated with neonics, there is no way that pesticide could affect monarch butterflies.
Their attitude is to never let reality enter into a good argument.

Milo
Reply to  Tom Halla
February 8, 2024 11:16 am

The USFWS still spends money breeding “red wolves”, which are big coyotes. They can’t understand why when released into NC, the “red wolves” breed with coyotes instead of each other, making more dangerous local predators.

Reply to  Tom Halla
February 8, 2024 11:34 am

The farmer next door rotates corn, soybean and wheat annually. Milkweed grows abundantly every year within inches of his round up “contaminated” field. Are we to believe that miniscule traces of glyphosate is specifically killing milkweed? The stuff is expensive, no one sprays it indiscriminately. Listen to a farmer…

https://youtu.be/LMG4kuEN_kM?si=UUyYHgQRLzsdKA9J

Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 8, 2024 4:01 pm

I didn’t know.
Thanks Kip, you’ve fixed some ignorance.

Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 8, 2024 6:20 pm

“corn and soybean fields were co-inhabited by milkweed, even if the farmer plowed between rows”

Plowed between the rows?
Corn is a couple of feet apart, soybeans are close enough that the field is carpeted, There IS NO plowing between the rows.

We had a small 30hp tractor, it only plowed three feet deep.
The big tractors can reach 6 feet deep with ease and they do it to break up hardpan, or compacted soils that prevent proper drainage.

There are tillers that can till the soil, think metal tines that arc down to the earth from the mechanism that rides above the corn on narrow tires.

My Brother in Law mows between his peach and apple trees in the orchards, but smaller annual and biennial plants are planted much closer.

As David states, it costs thousands to spray small fields. The large fields (Midwest) cost upwards of tens of thousands of dollars. The farmers must post signs before spraying and also post records of when fields have been sprayed.

Their sprayers, spray close to the plants within inches, not a drop is wasted if they can.

Where I grew up in Pennsylvania, it was a misdemeanor to let thistle or milkweed go to seed on your property.
This is not unusual in farming areas.

Why?
Farmers go to great lengths to eliminate weeds in their plantings, i.e., they deep plow and disc three times during winter months. A nearby milkweed or thistle can seed entire fields.
Thistle is unpleasant for cattle to eat. Pigs will eat it fresh, slowly, but never dried or partially dried.
Milkweed is toxic to cattle and bad for milk.

Cows are bright enough to leave the live plants alone, usually. But harvested with forage, it causes significant problems.
Near where I grew up was a pond and wetlands where milkweed grew abundantly.

The town mowed before seeds were released where they could with a lot of area unmown. I’d lay odds, this is still true today.

What has happened since a little before 2000?
Farmers were encouraged to now plant to the edges of their properties and to leave fields fallow for a few years. Many farmers were paid to not plant some fields.

Nowadays there is a Conservation plan that induces and rewards farmers who set aside fields for Conservation (CRP), established 1985.

Except when farmers began profiting substantially from the corn to ethanol era, many withdrew substantial amounts of land from CRP and returned them to production.

Rational Keith
Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 10, 2024 4:36 pm

Yes, mechanical tilling as I describe to ‘ATheoK’.
I cover physical arrangement and suggest that timing of tilling weeds in their growth is important.
For soybean, rotation with corn may help as mechanical tilling works well with corn.
Tilling in the fall may also help, I read.

Rational Keith
Reply to  ATheoK
February 10, 2024 4:18 pm

Traditionally corn was planted in rows both ways, so mechanical tilling could go between plants in two directions.
There may still be exhibits at the Labour Day fall fair in Mt. Pleasant IA. Old Thresher’s Reunion – Wikipedia
(Some farmers planted their rows at 45 degrees to the adjacent road, so passers by could be impressed.)
I don’t recall depth of tilling, I am skeptical of some claims herein, perhaps repeated tilling was needed. For some weeds a key is to till at the right stage of growth of the weed.

Rational Keith
Reply to  Rational Keith
February 10, 2024 4:23 pm

Soybean may be a much newer crop in eastern IA, also much in demand, many farmers rotate it with corn as it puts nitrogen back into the soil.
(Otherwise, ammonia is injected into the soil.
Newspapers regularly report attempts at stealing ammonia from the wheeled tanks on farms, to use in making an intoxicant for the Chicago market.
Often thieves botch the theft, creating a leak. Ammonia is toxic.
(Various substances are used in production of some intoxicants, depending on availability. Where I live pharmacies may hide certain anti-histamines as they get stolen to make intoxicants. ‘Where there’s a will there’s a way.’)

Tom Halla
Reply to  Rational Keith
February 10, 2024 7:24 pm

It is decongestants , pseudephedrine used in a recipe for meth.

Richard Page
Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 8, 2024 4:13 pm

It hasn’t. Despite alarmist claims to the contrary, and manipulation of the few studies done, bees appear to be unaffected by neonicotinoid pesticides on the plants which should also be a guide for butterflies.

Rational Keith
Reply to  Richard Page
February 10, 2024 5:04 pm

And commercial beekeepers coordinate with orchards to avoid times when insecticides are used.
(Many travel their hives with progression of season, starting south and progressing northward.)

BTW, another eco-flapper industry is claiming honey bee populations are in decline. Typically only failures are heard from, successful people just keep working.
Hives must be kept clean, especially in cold wet climates like the midwet coast in winter, and bees need extra food if winter is longer/colder than usual.
Like any farming, beekeeping requires smart hard work.

Reply to  Rational Keith
February 10, 2024 7:13 pm

USDA data says honey bees, the only cultivated bees, are increasing but there does seem to be evidence that (hundred? thousand?) of other bee populations are declining. This is probably due to various things such as habitat destruction, but disease seems to be a major factor.

Reply to  Richard Page
February 10, 2024 7:10 pm

Applies to seed treatment but not necessarily to spray treatment, which is done, according to my reading. I’m not saying this is evidence of killing bees or butterflies, only that it is not evidence that such killing doesn’t happen.

Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 8, 2024 6:32 pm

They have proven that neonics in nectar are not enough quantity to harm bees.

Bees gather nectar to process into honey to store, where butterflies, moths, hummingbirds, etc. gather nectar as food.

Reply to  ATheoK
February 10, 2024 7:16 pm

Good research has come up empty as far as neonicotinoids use killing bees, studying the actual bee colonies.

Reply to  Tom Halla
February 10, 2024 7:02 pm

I believe the figures I’ve seen is that somewhere around 75% to 80% of neonicotinoid use is for seed treatment, the rest is sprayed on growing plants. Regardless, there seems to be plenty of real evidence that neonicotinoids are not responsible for bee damage, as is still frequently proclaimed despite abundant evidence to the contrary, and perhaps it is just as unlikely those particular chemicals harm very many butterflies, although I don’t know what evidence there is either way.

However, “pesticides” is a much larger category than just neonicotinoid. Evidence about neonicotinoid per se does not speak to potential harm from many other agricultural chemicals, some of which, including neonicotinoids, certainly get onto milkweeds. In the past, spraying against insect damage was, for insects, birds, and many other non-damaging critters, not unlike firebombing an entire city to get rid of one munitions factory.

February 8, 2024 10:53 am

And yet, not a single swallowtail butterfly has been counted in these parts for years, where they used to be abundant.

The monarchs have a way better lobby than swallowtails because schoolkids come to see them annually. A five-year program that will provide $10 million in grants to benefit Monarchs on roadsides and highway rights-of-way was signed into law in 2021. Called the Monarch and Pollinator Highway Act, the bill was authored by Jimmy Panetta (D-CA) and Oregon Democratic Sen. Jeff Merkley. It’s main purpose is to seed milkweed along highway rights of ways.

It is clear that neither Monarchs or Swallowtails vote. But the parents of schoolchildren do.

Giving_Cat
Reply to  doonman
February 8, 2024 11:35 am

> “not a single swallowtail butterfly has been counted in these parts for years”

Toronto, Geneva? Seriously, when you say “here” please provide context.

Reply to  Giving_Cat
February 8, 2024 7:31 pm

“Here” could be anywhere and the results will be the same. Monarchs are counted everywhere they should appear each year. Swallowtails, not so much.

How many swallows return to Mission San Juan Capistrano each year? Nobody knows or cares. But they do have a festival and a parade.

Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 8, 2024 6:42 pm

I have found swallowtail eggs on carrot plants in the garden. Queen Anne’s lace which smells like carrot even though I have been told is not related is endemic in the East coast area.

My wife brought home two cuttings of a plant I only know as “butterfly bush”. It attracts swallowtail butterflies from midsummer through autumn.

When I was at the opal mines in Northern Nevada, I saw black swallowtails in the surrounding desert and in Southeast Oregon at the sunstone diggings.

billbedford
Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 11, 2024 3:01 am

“The Butterfly Bush” is usually buddleia davidii

February 8, 2024 11:00 am

It would displease the farmers I suppose: Roundup ready Milkweed ???
There seems to be enough money around for the Monarch. Find a molecular
biologist, CRISPR technology and that’s it …

Giving_Cat
February 8, 2024 11:30 am

An unrecognized issue is “better” farming practices with technology. Active field operations have increased acres planted per plot. Fewer interstitial sites where plants like milkweed and animals like frogs used to thrive as farmers level and fill properties for more planting. Fewer wild pockets.

Aside. Glyphosphates are magical chemicals unlike our master, CO2. All the uproar and legal findings make no scientific sense.

Giving_Cat
Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 8, 2024 2:15 pm

> Smart farmers leave those wild edges.

This!

Unfortunately more and more farming is corporate agribusiness and not farmers.

Pardon a moment of paranoia. Our increasing dependence upon monoculture crops to maximize yield and reduce costs is very biologically dangerous. A natural or engineered pathogen would sweep through entire crops unchecked.

Reply to  Giving_Cat
February 8, 2024 6:56 pm

milkweed and animals like frogs used to thrive as farmers level and fill properties for more planting”

Illegal in most states, if not all.

They do cut down wood (trees) borders, pull stumps and join fields together, but these are not lowlands or wetlands.

Duane
February 8, 2024 12:26 pm

An obvious question here is, since milkweed fluorished in non-Roundup resistant crop fields, which would have been ALL cultivated crop fields worldwide before a few decades ago (i.e., 10 thousand or so years since agriculture became a thing for humans) … then did intensive agriculture result in non-natural increase in the milkweed distribution that in turn accelerated monarch butterfly populations?

If so, then current populations as measured in the last few decades might represent a “return to normal” dropping from the “peak monarch” populations of a few decades ago.

Humans obviously have greatly affected the distribution and character of plant life on Earth, whether in forests, grasslands, or savanna, Over the course of thousands of years, regardless of any changes in climate, that is well understood. In the Great Plains of the midwest, which 150 years ago were carpeted with native short grasses and tall grasses (depending upon how far east or west) in prairies, have now nearly completely disappeared. It is estimated that 167 million acres of tall grass prairie in the Great Plains existed in the middle of the 19th century, and today they are a remnant of less than 10% of that figure, mostly in Kansas.

So did the rise of agriculture in the Great Plans cause milkweed to contract, or expand? I don’t know. If intensive agriculture including irrigation and cultivation cause milkweed populations to expand beyond what was supported in the native prairies, then it makes sense that monarch populations would expand during that era too. And that if current agricultural processes now result in fewer milkweeds, then fewer monarchs could be the result.

Duane
Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 8, 2024 2:33 pm

Thanks Kip. The paper is behind a paywall, but the public summary is certainly interesting. The researches based their estimates derived from genomics, rather than field counts of butterflies, and conclude that there actually has been no reduction in monarch population over the last 75 years (that’s certainly contrary to what the field counts show). They also discuss in the summary that the expansion of agriculture in the eastern states that was accompanied by large scale deforestation over the past 200 years definitely increased the monarch population size.

The summary did not discuss the western areas of the Great Plains that have also seen a wide scale change in plant types from tall grass and short grass prairies to cropland and livestock range. But it certainly seems plausible that such a large scale change in plant types could have impacted (increased) milkweed production and therefore monarch populations.

My point being, even if monarch populations actually have seen significant reductions in recent decades due to changes in agriculture practices, it may just be a “return to norm” rather than an ecological catastrophe.

Reply to  Duane
February 8, 2024 2:09 pm

The straight-stemmed milkweed varieties in our native grass acreage in the Great Plains are frequently dead prior to the Monarch migration. A few weeks of high heat combined with low rainfall in August usually does them in.

However, the climbing type of milkweed is much more tolerant of drought (in my area). That is where I find caterpillars and chrysalises that I take to middle school science classes.

I find the climbing type of milkweed in vacant lots in the city, and in field edges in the country where there are fence posts and trees for it to climb.

Some buddies in the states to the east of me (and closer to the main monarch flyway) get significantly more precipitation and their straight-stemmed milkweed does survive until the monarchs arrive.

Bob
February 8, 2024 12:36 pm

Very nice Kip. The biggest problem here is that there is more and more evidence showing there is little reason to accept so called scientific findings. That is a bad thing. Scientists have no one to blame but themselves. I am not suggesting that all scientists are liars and cheats but clearly some are. My point is that all honest scientists need to call the bad ones out. The bad ones are doing great harm to the profession.

Giving_Cat
Reply to  Kip Hansen
February 8, 2024 2:17 pm

> Very few scientists are fraudsters or crooks.

No scientists are fraudsters or crooks. The problem is fraudsters and crooks who claim to be scientists.

February 8, 2024 4:44 pm

Off topic:

First ever February tornado in Wisconsin tonight.
Can blaming climate Change be far behind?
So far on the car radio no. Milwaukee Journal Sentinel

February 9, 2024 8:11 am

The FIRST thing the global fascists go after is to lie about/corrupt numbers. And numbers are involved in about everything (example, elections).