Another Critical Thinker Reaches The Obvious Conclusion: Intermittent Renewables Can’t Work On Their Own

From the MANHATTAN CONTRARIAN

Francis Menton

Let me welcome to the small and elite club of critical thinkers on the supposed energy transition a guy named Balázs Fekete. Fekete, with several co-authors, has recently (September 18) succeeded in getting an article published in a journal called Frontiers of Environmental Science, with the title “Storage requirements to mitigate intermittent renewable energy sources: analysis for the US Northeast.” Fekete then followed up by publishing on November 14 at Judith Curry’s Climate, Etc. blog a lengthy post summarizing the article, titled “Net-Zero Targets: Sustainable Future or CO2 Obsession Driven Dead-end?”

As with the previous competent analyses of energy storage requirements needed to back up intermittent renewable generation that have been featured on this blog and in my energy storage Report, there is nothing complicated about the Fekete, et al., analysis. The authors call it “a modified surplus/deficit calculation [as] taught to water engineers to size reservoirs for meeting water demand when the water resources vary.” When there is surplus production you add it to storage, and when there is a deficit you subtract; and then you sum over a year (or two, or ten) to calculate how much storage you need. It’s all basic arithmetic. What could be simpler?

You will not be surprised that the conclusion is “CO2 obsession driven dead-end.”

This subject would seem almost too obvious and trivial to cover on this blog. There is nothing complicated here. Everybody who is involved in any way in the energy transition game, and who has even the lowest level of professional competence, simply must be aware of this subject and of these calculations. And yet I just attended the big New York “Climate Summit,” (aka the Krazy Klimate Konference), featuring all of the powerful politicians and bureaucrats and industry leaders who are in charge of our state’s energy transition, and to a person they have no idea about any of this. And by no idea, I mean none, zero, zilch. One guy even came up to me and accused me of being “rude” for laughing out loud at his astounding ignorance. (The only other possibility was that it was intentional comedy.)

Unsurprisingly, the authors of Fekete, et al., make no claim to being “climate scientists.” Climate scientists as a class are way too smart to stoop to doing basic arithmetic. In the intro to the paper, Fekete identifies himself as a professor at the City University of New York — of Civil Engineering. Second author Mihály Bacskó is a former executive of the Hungarian Power Company. The other two co-authors are meteorologists working at the University of Oklahoma. In other words, the focus here is not on scaring the public with frightening scenarios from the occult voodoo of climate “science,” but rather only on whether the proposed solutions will or will not work.

The particular calculations in Fekete, et al., look at data from twelve states of the northeastern U.S. — New England, plus New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland and West Virginia. Rather than using production data from existing wind and solar facilities, the authors obtained daily wind speed and solar irradiation data for the region. For consumption data, the blog post states that the authors applied an assumption of “constant energy consumption,” after determining that “seasonal variations of energy consumption are relatively small (deviate by only 10-15% of the annual average).” (Perhaps this decision could be criticized, but I doubt that it makes any material difference to the conclusion.)

And the bottom line is:

The storage capacity needed to align power generation from solar or wind is around 25% of the annual energy consumption.

In other words, you need three months worth of storage to try to make this work. Previous studies that I highlighted in my energy storage Report — for example, those of Roger Andrews and Ken Gregory — had calculated storage needs in the range of one to two months. However, those studies only used one year’s worth of data for each calculation, and allowed running the storage balance right down to zero. If you think that it’s too risky to run the storage right down to zero before the balance starts to refill, then three months of storage is a much more reasonable figure. Indeed, it’s still rather conservative.

Fekete, et al., don’t get into the specifics of cost of any possible storage solution. But then, they don’t need to. The potential costs are so enormous as to completely rule out any attempt even to start down this road. According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, total U.S. electricity consumption in 2022 was just over 4 trillion kWh. So one-quarter of that would be just over 1 trillion kWh. Just to get an idea of the cost of that much energy storage, this site (Tesla fans) gives a (highly optimistic) cost for Tesla batteries of just over $100 per kWh. So a trillion of those will run you about $100 trillion. That’s four times the entire U.S. economy. Meanwhile, a Tesla-style battery is not remotely up to the job of the energy storage needed to back up wind/solar electricity generation, which would necessarily include the ability to save up power over a year or more and discharge over a year. But then, the economics are so wildly out of line that it’s hardly worth worrying about such technicalities.

Fekete, et al., in a very understated manner, put it this way:

In the absence of energy storage technology that can store several months worth of energy, one has to conclude that all studies suggesting that solar or wind are price competitive with other forms of energy should be retracted.

The Fekete blog post at Climate, Etc. contains two other subjects of interest. One relates to the peer review process. It appears that one of the peer reviewers made a run at getting the paper blocked, without stating the nature of any substantive criticisms:

One of the reviewers stated that “The manuscript contains fundamental errors that cannot be rectified through author revisions” without venturing into any details.

Fekete calls this effort “unscientific, unjust, and unethical,” which is again quite an understatement. Sadly, such conduct is the norm in what goes by the name “climate science” today. Fortunately, in this case, another reviewer was supportive, as was the staff of the journal.

The second subject of further interest in the blog post is that another reviewer criticized the draft paper for alleged “lack of references to the “plethora of work” related to integrating renewables to the current energy systems and transitioning to a sustainable energy future.” The criticism caused the authors to “roll up their sleeves” and go out and review some 360 papers recommended by the critic. Here is a list of what they found:

  1. The inter-annual and seasonal variations were rarely studied.
  2. The vast majority of the studies were limited to diurnal and minute-by-minute variations.
  3. The publications only investigated the use of few hourly storage capacities.
  4. The primary sustainability metric was reducing CO2 emissions.
  5. Most of the publications were limited to low renewable penetration.
  6. No publication attempted to address complete decarbonization.
  7. Even the most ambitious “deep decarbonization” scenarios stopped at 25-50% renewable contributions that was considered “high renewable penetration”.

And in summary:

Most of the reviewed papers assumed that solar and wind will be always supplemented by some form of “firm generation capacity”, which is the obfuscated name of using fossil fuels complemented with “carbon capture and sequestration”.

In other words, the orthodox “peer reviewed” scientific literature is almost completely lacking in consideration of the most important, fundamental problem of transitioning to an energy system based on electricity generated by the wind and sun. Well, now there is one competent paper in the mix. They will do their best to ignore it, at least until the whole wind/solar thing has conclusively shown that it can’t work.

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charlie
December 5, 2023 2:38 am

 “The manuscript contains fundamental errors that cannot be rectified through author revisions” without venturing into any details.

Another disgrace to the profession. Does anyone know if, in such circumstances, a potential publisher would go back to him and ask what these fundamental errors are. And can I hope that if failed to provide them that he or she would be struck off a list of reviewers they use?

observa
December 5, 2023 3:07 am

Government Dictated Energy Policy (GDEP) describes it well-
Eliminating fossil fuel use means ‘ruining billions of lives’ (msn.com)

observa
December 5, 2023 3:14 am

The climate changers are getting desperate with Vampires-
Explainer-Energy efficiency could offer major climate wins. But what is it? (msn.com)

c1ue
December 5, 2023 5:07 am

Several notes:
1) The entire EU has had 2 incidents in the lsat 5 years where wind performance across the entire region was down 30% or more for 3 months and 6 months, respectively.
2) What is the lifespan of a lithium battery? If it is 20 years, then the cost is $100 trillion every 20 years = 20% of GDP every year. Ouch.
3) Even disregarding cost – I am quite certain there is insufficient lithium, copper, etc to build $100 trillion of lithium battery storage every 20 years just for the US. People don’t seem to get the enormous scale of electricity generation. I saw an iron oxide based storage solution – the problem is that it stores something like 1 MWh per acre – meaning you would need 1 billion acres of land. But it also uses A LOT of iron – as in a majority fraction of world iron production. Using lead acid – better but still ridiculous numbers as opposed to actual world production.
The requirements for grid scale storage are simple: cheap, efficient, scalable.
Lithium is none of these three – it is not clear ANY battery storage can be any of these 3.

December 5, 2023 6:55 am

And after we get rid of the medieval warm period we’ll have to get rid of physics and economic principles…

unwaveringconch1233
December 5, 2023 7:34 am

Copying comment from the article on Dr. Curry’s blog:

Saying solar is not going to be relevant just because currently it is not the biggest renewable energy contributor is not necessarily a convincing argument – (https://www.nrel.gov/news/program/2023/how-renewable-energy-is-transforming-the-global-electricity-supply.html). The recent massive growth in solar energy indicates its significant potential in the renewable energy landscape. People aren’t stupid and they like money. Long-term planning and economic viability drive the development of power plants, and the increasing investment in solar reflects its potential.
Solar’s integration into the grid involves both transmission and distribution. While building more transmission lines to connect regions with varying solar availability is a complex task (right now there is little to no interconnection between ERCOT, East, and West), it offers a clear path to achieving a higher (30%+) share of solar in the grid which helps offset regional intermittency (ie resiliency). Distributed solar, a key component of a “smart grid,” plays a crucial role in enhancing grid resiliency. Despite challenges like power quality issues and reverse energy flow in aging infrastructure, these challenges present opportunities for grid improvement. The current distribution infrastructure, nearly 50 years old, needs upgrading, and addressing issues like system outage detection can be vastly improved. How is it almost 2024 and the most common way a grid operator finds out there is a system outage is a customer physically calls them? There is so much room for improvement, and the infrastructure will need upgrading regardless. Why not include smarter data collection so operators can quickly and efficiently localize grid outages and restore power to the most critical areas like people’s homes who need constant medical care? Why not add distributed PV that can provide voltage support at the end of distribution lines where there are little to no voltage regulators. Why not provide smarter metering options for people to save money by reducing their own electricity load through demand response or distributed generation?
There is a very clear path to adding orders of magnitude of renewable generation onto the grid before we’d run into any large issue (issues which people have been studying for decades now: see above statement that “people aren’t stupid”). The article does a good job articulating the challenges with storage for extremely high renewable penetration, but my entire point is that the immediate next steps to a stronger grid and cheaper electricity are clear. Don’t let perfection be the enemy of progress. It’s an incredibly complex and challenging undertaking and saying people will freeze to death or die because of renewables is too much alarmism for my taste. Notice how I didn’t use the term “climate change” once in this post, renewables offer more to the grid than CO2 reduction.

Reply to  unwaveringconch1233
December 5, 2023 5:37 pm

Goodnight.

heme212
Reply to  unwaveringconch1233
December 7, 2023 11:22 pm

that’s all hand waving until you first demonstrate that solar produces more electricity than was consumed producing and deploying an array. If it does, then .GOV wouldn’t need to subsidize it so heavily. (yes, people like money).

and the comparisons need to be legitimate. I am sick of NEVER being able to get more than 1.9 kW out of my 3.01 kW rated arrays. Also, practical experience needs to be included. As in Scottsbluff NE

unwaveringconch1233
Reply to  heme212
December 8, 2023 12:23 pm

As with every power plant there is an estimated energy payback period because you produce energy year over year, so every solar plant ever made will always produce more electricity than was consumed, the question is just when that time occurs. As with most energy questions the answer is the much-maligned “it depends”, with utility scale solar falling somewhere between 3-8 years depending on location (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/energy-payback-time).
I do completely agree with you that the transparency and information about distributed PV is severely lacking, and the fact that the rated capacity that is advertised is for noon on a clear sunny day is misleading. But again, it depends. Someone with a 3 kW array on their house in Tucson, AZ will have much different emotions about their investment than someone in NE. The slope of your roof, direction of your roof, and any possible shading by trees or power lines all affect an array, so this information needs to be distributed to the consumer much better.

Also seen on the “people like money” front – https://www.imf.org/en/Blogs/Articles/2023/08/24/fossil-fuel-subsidies-surged-to-record-7-trillion

heme212
December 7, 2023 11:08 pm

when they announced that the 2025 ramcharger would have a 130 kW on-board generator I was almost shocked (lol) at the overkill. but then i remembered that the generator needs to refill the batteries..as well as power the truck. and do it quickly.

Nice to know there are engineers who can still do the math.

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