Artificial Airglow from HAARP May Be Widely Visible in Alaska Tonight

NOTE: The HAARP facility was closed some years ago, and now it is operational again. Back then I was happy it was closed because it (mostly) ended the silly conspiracy theories about weather and climate effects, which were baseless. If you want to expound on those theories again here, watch how fast I’ll delete them. 😉 Anthony


Alaskans and visitors may be able to see an artificial airglow in the sky created by the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program during a four-day research campaign that starts Saturday.

Scientists from the University of Alaska Fairbanks, Cornell University, University of Colorado Denver, University of Florida and Georgia Institute of Technology will conduct a variety of experiments at the UAF-operated research site.

The experiments will focus on the ionosphere, the region of the atmosphere between about 30 and 350 miles above the Earth’s surface. 

Scientists will investigate ionosphere mechanisms that cause optical emissions. They’ll also try to understand whether certain plasma waves — gas so hot that electrons get knocked off atoms — amplify other very low frequency waves. And they’ll investigate how satellites can use plasma waves in the ionosphere for collision detection and avoidance.

Each day, the airglow could be visible up to 300 hundred miles from the HAARP facility in Gakona. The site lies about 200 miles northeast of Anchorage and 230 miles southeast of Fairbanks, or about 300 to 350 kilometers.

HAARP creates airglow by exciting electrons in Earth’s ionosphere, similar to how solar energy creates natural aurora, with on and off pulses of high-frequency radio transmissions. HAARP’s Ionospheric Research Instrument, a phased array of 180 high-frequency antennas spread across 33 acres, can radiate 3.6 megawatts into the upper atmosphere and ionosphere. 

HAARP antenna array.

The airglow, if visible, will appear as a faint red or possibly green patch. Because of the way the human eye operates, the airglow might be easier to see when looking just to the side.

HAARP will create an airglow at a specific point in the sky. The angle of visibility for anyone wanting to look for it will depend on a person’s distance from HAARP.

HAARP transmission frequencies will vary but will occur between 2.8 and 10 megahertz. Actual transmit days and times are highly variable based on real-time ionospheric and/or geomagnetic conditions. 

Additional information about the research campaign will be available on the HAARP website.

The National Science Foundation in 2021 awarded the UAF Geophysical Institute a five-year, $9.3 million grant to establish the Subauroral Geophysical Observatory at HAARP. The observatory explores Earth’s upper atmosphere and geospace environment.

The grant has supported several HAARP research campaigns, including this one. It also helped fund the return to HAARP of the Polar Aeronomy and Radio Science Summer School, which hosted more than 50 researchers in August.

The Air Force originally developed and owned HAARP but transferred the research instruments to UAF in August 2015. UAF operates the site under an agreement with the Air Force.

Pilots flying in the Gulkana area are asked to check with the Federal Aviation Administration for temporary flight restriction details.

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simonsays
November 4, 2023 10:24 pm

First thing i did was google Haarp conspiracy theories.

https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/haarp-weather-control-conspiracy-is-off-in-the-clouds/

Mr David Guy-Johnson
Reply to  simonsays
November 4, 2023 11:37 pm

For a laugh, I take it, because the believers are amongst the creme de la creme of nutjobs

simonsays
Reply to  Mr David Guy-Johnson
November 5, 2023 12:03 am

Yep. No bigger bunch of nutjobs then the European Parliment
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/press/sdp/backg/en/1998/b980209.htm

Reply to  simonsays
November 5, 2023 2:28 am

Ms Rosalie BERTELL, from Toronto (Canada), is one of the best-informed experts about HAARP (the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Programme), a programme which has been developed by the US military.

The one who doesn’t comprehend the last part, is the real nutjob. The military only do research and development on stuff that can serve as weapons …

Duane
Reply to  SasjaL
November 5, 2023 2:47 am

Nope – the U.S.military conducts a great deal of research on phenomena unrelated to weapons. Including communications, navigation, weather, bathymmetry, power systems, physical health, material properties, and so on. You really need to get out more and shed your silly conspiracy theories.

Reply to  Duane
November 5, 2023 3:46 am

All of the stuff you mentioned relates to weapons and war, in one way or another, but you don’t relise that apparently …

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  SasjaL
November 5, 2023 5:07 am

Along with hundreds of other topics that don’t bring the conspiracy theorists out in full force. For example, supply chains are very important to the military but the study of supply chains is critical to business.

Reply to  SasjaL
November 5, 2023 5:31 am

For those who don’t get it:

* Communications – Needed between troops etc.

* Navigation – Needed for the troops, guided weapons etc.

* Weather – Would you take a chance sending the troops into sudden bad weather …?

* Bathymetry – Needed for submarines …

* Power systems – Reliable and efficiant propulsion for all vehicles, including guided weapons …

* Physical health – Troops …

* Material properties – Equipment should last as long as possible, at lowest weight.

Scissor
Reply to  SasjaL
November 5, 2023 5:46 am

What about Muslim outreach?

strativarius
Reply to  Scissor
November 5, 2023 6:04 am

See London…..

auto
Reply to  strativarius
November 5, 2023 8:55 am

Parts rebranded as Londonistan, you know.
Curries can be excellent.

Auto

MarkW
Reply to  SasjaL
November 5, 2023 7:50 am

I have never seen anyone work so hard to avoid admitting there first claim was in error.

Richard Page
Reply to  MarkW
November 5, 2023 12:03 pm

Backtrack in progress. Beep. Beep. Heavy load (of BS) backing up!

Duane
Reply to  SasjaL
November 5, 2023 4:44 pm

You are the one not getting it. Give it up cupcake.

MarkW
Reply to  SasjaL
November 5, 2023 7:49 am

So you admit that you were wrong, when you claimed that the military only “researched things that can serve as weapons”.

Reply to  MarkW
November 5, 2023 1:35 pm

Obviously you and some others don’t get it. The military is not interested to do research in areas which only have civilian use. It doesn’t make sense, obviously, as it is a waste of time and money … Ex. They tried it with thorium reactors long time ago, but dropped it as soon as they realised that they couldn’t use it to manufacture nuclear weapons.

What I wrote is not in conflict with some of the research they do, may have civilian usage. Like microwaves, which led to microwave ovens. Still, the main purpose was to create microwave weapons, which they managed to do. Well, those weapons have been used against civilians …

MarkW
Reply to  SasjaL
November 5, 2023 6:24 pm

Still avoiding the fact that his first statement was clearly incorrect.

What is it about these conspiracy nutjobs and their complete inability to admit when they have made a mistake?

Reply to  MarkW
November 5, 2023 10:21 pm

Because they don’t understand the equipment that are being used there thus make up stupid claims against it.

I went over this in details a year ago to a certified rockhead who made clear had no idea what the equipment is designed for, and it doesn’t create a bunch of weather calamities as he fervently believed.

Their ignorance is laughable.

MarkW
Reply to  SasjaL
November 5, 2023 6:28 pm

You are the one who declared that anyone who doubts the conspiracy theories about HAARP are the nutjobs because the military only does research on things that can be used as weapons.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/11/04/haarp-artificial-airglow-may-be-widely-visible-in-alaska/#comment-3812235

Reply to  SasjaL
November 5, 2023 9:50 am

Just because something CAN be used in war, doesn’t mean that it can’t be used for other things. Consider how modern hospital emergency rooms have put battlefield lessons to good use saving civilian trauma victims. Do you refuse the benefit from GPS because it was originally developed for the military? You can lead a donkey to water, but you can’t make it think.

Duane
Reply to  SasjaL
November 5, 2023 4:43 pm

The same claim can be made about anything and everything. Designing better cotton thread leads to better uniforms which are worn by people who fire weapons. Better energy efficiency leads to firing more weapons for the same electrical energy input. Better snack foods result in happier troops who as a result fire their weapons more effectively.

Yadda yadda yadda.

Your statements are BS.

Trying to Play Nice
Reply to  simonsays
November 5, 2023 5:05 am

I think the Canadians and the American Progressives would give them a run for their money.

Reply to  Trying to Play Nice
November 5, 2023 12:47 pm

Please do not lump all Canadians into the same basket, some us think for ourselves, and most of us are nowhere near the lunacy of the American left, other than my cousin.

MarkW
Reply to  Nansar07
November 5, 2023 6:29 pm

Somebody elected Trudeau.

November 4, 2023 10:53 pm

expound on those (HHARP) theories again here, watch how fast I’ll delete them

Well, mister Watts, I hope your “debunking”of HAARP ages better than your “debunking”of Chemtrails, recently openly admitted to, nay, promoted, by lord Baal Gates as Tropospheric Particulate Injection….
It is not a conspiracy, when they really are out to get ya!

Mr David Guy-Johnson
Reply to  cilo
November 4, 2023 11:36 pm

If you believe in chemtrails you really are a nutcase. Well done for outing yourself

Reply to  Mr David Guy-Johnson
November 5, 2023 12:24 am

If you are unaware that your messiah Baal Gates is openly promoting Tropospheric Particulate Injection, or the fact it has been going on since the seventies, you are wilfully ignorant, thanks for outing yourself.

MarkW
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 7:53 am

What makes you think Gates is any less a nutjob than you are?
What makes you think Gates knows anything about this subject in the first place?

Reply to  MarkW
November 5, 2023 9:59 am

It is interesting how people who become rich and famous come to think that they are experts on politics and science, despite their only demonstrated talents being the ability to memorize a script or song lyrics and deliver it with the same conviction as a used car salesman selling a lemon to a teenager buying their first car. What’s worse, is that a significant fraction of the population buys into the belief and also thinks that people whose name is a household word somehow magically become experts in quantum mechanics or peace negotiations.

Reply to  Mr David Guy-Johnson
November 5, 2023 3:53 am

A while back I posted something to the effect of people who believe such and such probably believe crop circles are made by aliens I was surprised how many nutjobs made an appearance.

Rich Davis
Reply to  Steve Case
November 5, 2023 7:30 am

As much as I don’t believe that there’s evidence of aliens making crop circles, contrails being ‘chemtrails’, or HAARP being a weapon, I do subscribe to Hamlet’s advice: “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy”.

Crop circles are performance art hoaxes. I’m not so open-minded that I let my brain fall out. Chemtrails could exist and are proposed for geoengineering even if they have not been doing whatever nefarious thing they have supposed to have been doing ‘since the 70s’. HAARP contributing knowledge that will be dual use is certainly likely even if I doubt that the project is a prototype whatever.

Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 1:36 am

But why?
It’s an expensive and inefficient way to do something pointless.

Even if you find a reason why they would do it, throwing things from planes is the dumbest way to do it. Everything diffuses. Focussed and channelled strategies would be far more effective and not leave obvious residues everywhere to expose the nefarious plot.

It makes no sense.

Reply to  MCourtney
November 5, 2023 2:26 am

Don’t be obtuse. Baal Gates is actually demanding tax monies to subsidise the ATMOSPHERIC PARTICULATE INJECTION he is currently perpetrating. Using sulphur compounds, no less!
Jeez, Louise, there are millions of articles on the internet, discussing THESE FACTS from all angles.
There is no conspiracy, sir, it is a friggin’ harvest!

MarkW
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 7:56 am

In other words, your first claim is total nonsense, and you know it.
Demanding that a program be started is not the same thing as saying such a program has been in existence for decades.
Indeed, if he knew for a fact that such a program already exists, as was your first claim, there would be no need for him to demand that one be started now.

Reply to  MarkW
November 5, 2023 8:54 am

Ach, you again!
Do you remember anything you read yesterday, or are you just trying to bait me? Go read something other than Keanes, Friedman and Zuckerberg.

MarkW
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 6:32 pm

In other words, once again, you can’t actually refute anything that I have written.

What is it with these conspiracy nutjobs and their inability to actually defend the ludicrous claims they make?

Reply to  MCourtney
November 5, 2023 2:29 am

By the way, the “reason” your lord Baal offers for his atmospheric pollution, is to reflect the sunlight so he can save all of us by cooling the earth.
Surely readers of a website like this is fully aware (and concerned) about these openly-published, nay, bragged-about programmes?

Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 3:50 am

“Surely readers of a website like this is fully aware (and concerned) about these openly-published, nay, bragged-about programmes?”

Yes, we are aware of these programs. I posted this link a couple of days ago. I said at the time that these people, including Mr. Gates, are crazy to try to manipulate the climate using millions of tons of SO2, or anything else.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/13/what-is-solar-geoengineering-sunlight-reflection-risks-and-benefits.html

Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 4:25 am

I don’t know why we need to replicate the experiment. Until a few years ago ships were injecting huge volumes of SO2 from burning 4%S HMFO. Then the IMO started tightening fuel sulphur content standards.

Reply to  It doesnot add up
November 5, 2023 4:31 am

Then the IMO started tightening fuel sulphur content standards.

I thing of much ridicule to some. I remember how we did it because our historic buildings and statues were melting away. Complaints have stopped, not so?
Yes, I employ hyperbole…and a selectively uncanny memory.

MarkW
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 7:58 am

We are well aware that there are nutjobs out there who want to start researching geoengineering.

Demanding that a research program be started is a long way from claiming that such a program has been in existence for decades, as was your original claim.

Reply to  MarkW
November 5, 2023 8:49 am

I make no claims, I merely remind you of the well-published progress in the art since 1970’s. Not my fault you are too young to remember, or maybe you grew up even more propagandised than I, in which case I can only say: “Phew!!!”.
Or are we now going to say cloud seeding and precipitation promotion and nucleide (sic?) provisioning were all conspiracy theories?
I know for a fact my government used Barium salts…
I remind you Mark, go read something NOT recommended for you by your little glass friend. Google has been weaponised, get it into your head.

MarkW
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 6:36 pm

And yet again, the conspiracy nutjob refuses to actually defend the claims that he made. Instead he denies reality.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/11/04/haarp-artificial-airglow-may-be-widely-visible-in-alaska/#comment-3812177

As near as I can figure, you seem to believe that only your nutjob conspiracy web sites are reliable.
As to your beliefs regarding the sites I do read, you are as wrong on that as you are on everything else you believe.

Reply to  MCourtney
November 5, 2023 2:55 am

What Gates, Soros, Schwab and all the other sociopaths are doing, doesn’t make any sense at all. It’s all about their personal gain. They don’t mind wasting some money, just to gain it all in the end.

Remember, Gates is one of these nutcases, who has admitted in public that there’s a need to limit the population in the world down to 500 million. This is common among modern “philanthropists” today. (A better word would be “mengeleists”.) That process has already started … He was often talking about this until 2019 and then switching to promote his pseudo vaccin. A coincidence? No, he went from words into action. Even Schwab has admitted similar things in public, which should make any intelligent person react.

Reply to  SasjaL
November 5, 2023 3:58 am

I assume you voted me up one? I am very unlikable.
1)I remember Baal Gates using 300 mil as his sweet target.
2) Whereas the accusations against Mengele is supported solely by the testimony of a pathological liar commonly recognised in his home village as the town idiot, with such a bad reputation for spreading vicious lies, the local rabbi issued a formal denunciation of him, the charges against, say, Antonchrist Frauci stand open and undeniable in real time. You could maybe even play with Freud and Faust, Fraustci?
3) A term you could use, is Lysenkoism, maybe, or some other Bolshevik hero, like Biden, or maybe the one that managed to convince Hitler to sign off on a eugenics programme, that Hitler also cancelled after four months, due to public outcry.
4) Maybe find a name from the list of geniuses who operated the US eugenics programme openly until about 1957, the Bolshies have been busy…
5) Find a list of every person that has signed off on Canada’s currently running eugenics programme, apparently they are doing very well.
Mengele was a studious and thoughtful scientist.Go ask the members of that club Jewish Survivors of the Fatal Nazi Experiments on Twins (or somesuch). Scores of’em. Until Montagnier and Venter, the great names in genetics was Mendel and Mengele.

Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 4:43 am

So your Saint Mengele was innocent? No reason for him to flee to South America then, when he had the opportunity to be a part of Operation Paperclip …

Reply to  SasjaL
November 5, 2023 6:32 am

I have no saints, but Mengel’s boss, Hörst I think, was well known and loved by the inmates as the Angel of Auschwitz. Then, circa 1979, the Angel of Auschwitz disappeared, and suddenly we all remembered the Angel of Death, Mengele.
As with all other mass outsbreaks of anti-Semitism, this particular rewrite of history also happened as the interlude to a major change in the international financial system. You know, like just before Bretton Woods? Just like that with Privatisation, and now Stakeholder Capitalism.
As for Paperclip, yeah, why did a brilliant medical researcher refuse to work for the people who bombed and burned Europe (and various Asian enclaves) until everyone had only death or debt to choose from.
Or do you have an excuse ready for Dresden?

Rich Davis
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 7:43 am

Cilo, if you’re openly denying the crimes of the National Socialists, then I have to wonder if you’re just here to discredit WUWT.

Reply to  Rich Davis
November 5, 2023 8:42 am

…then I have to wonder if…

You never wonder, you just assume you know better. Just because I do not believe the same propaganda as you, is no cause to libel me, you!
First sort out the many self-exclusionary contradictions in your own world philosophy, before you try evaluate others’.
You can start by getting off your moral high horse…

MarkW
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 6:38 pm

Is there anything you believe that is actually true?

If you believe that the Holocaust was just propaganda, you are the most vile of reptilian morons. I have never before recommended someone for banning, but you are getting very close.

Reply to  Rich Davis
November 5, 2023 8:55 am

Why did you change the conversation from Dresden to your own misunderstanding of history? Hmmm?

Rich Davis
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 10:21 am

Cilo, I don’t need a justification for what the elite in my grandparents’ and great-grandparents’ generation did a decade and a half before I was born, but it’s fairly clear that Dresden was incinerated because those people valued American (and British, and Russian) boys’ lives more than the lives of those who screamed Ja! to the question ‘do you want total war?’ and whose elite were starving and torturing and gassing Jews and other ‘Untermenschen’ at that time.

The same goes for those incinerated in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, except that their elites were raping and murdering Chinese and Koreans among others.

It would have been better if a more humane approach could have been taken. But there was no better option on the table perhaps. In any case we cannot change the past.

Reply to  Rich Davis
November 5, 2023 12:32 pm

In any case we cannot change the past.

But we can stop the neurotic repetition of a false history made up to excuse genocide, selective censorship and misanthropic financial systems.
(6*10^6)/({3\1945}-{9\1942})>6500/day.
Go work out the practical logistics of that… then we can discuss 7 tons of ladies’ hair, human soap, 14 tons of gold from teeth….
No, we cannot change the past, but we can stop believing obvious lies. Or at least stop demanding others believe it too.

Rich Davis
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 12:51 pm

Let’s just be very clear here that you are trafficking in straight up Holocaust denial.

MarkW
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 6:43 pm

So everything you don’t want to believe, is just propaganda. That’s convenient.

Who cares how many eye witnesses there are. Who cares how much documentation exists. You’ve got a couple of made up quotes and books written by people who were never there, and that’s good enough for you.

MarkW
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 6:39 pm

I don’t know if you really are this delusional, or if you just like making yourself look like a degenerate moron.

Duane
Reply to  SasjaL
November 5, 2023 4:50 pm

You are making up sh*t. You’re a nutjob, obviously.

Reply to  MCourtney
November 5, 2023 7:02 am

Why would commercial airlines waste valuable cargo and fuel capacity to spray “chems” out the back of their aircraft? They would quickly go broke.

Rich Davis
Reply to  karlomonte
November 5, 2023 10:31 am

Oh you just don’t get it do you karlomonte? Obviously Bill Gates is paying them to spread his poisons.

Reply to  Rich Davis
November 5, 2023 4:53 pm

Duh! I be stooopid.

MarkW
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 7:52 am

It really doesn’t take much to convince you.

November 4, 2023 11:14 pm

Get your tinfoil hat 🙂

Reply to  Hans Erren
November 5, 2023 6:23 am

Make sure it is real tin, the aluminum stuff doesn’t work.

Reply to  Hans Erren
November 5, 2023 8:57 am

Seems to me, most opted to just reach for the chamber pot…

Bruce Cobb
November 5, 2023 12:42 am

You aren’t fooling me. It is a way for E.T.s to “phone home”.

Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 5, 2023 2:32 am

…a way for E.T.s to “phone home”

The kinda ET that likes our flavour, texture and easy preparation?

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 4:28 am

No, more the cute kind that crash-landed, ride flying bicycles, and really are just homesick.

MarkW
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
November 5, 2023 6:45 pm

That’s what the military industrial complex wants you to believe.
Obviously ET was just an advance scout for the greys who want to eat our brains.

November 5, 2023 1:58 am

They certainly ‘picked their moment’ didn’t they…
They’re gonna be blown away by the real thing this weekend…

quote:””GEOMAGNETIC STORM WATCH (G2): NASA and NOAA now agree: A full halo CME is expected to hit Earth’s magnetic field this weekend. Its arrival probably during the late hours of Nov. 5th could spark a G2-class geomagnetic storm with auroras in northern Europe, Canada and US states from New York to Oregon.

From here

Couldn’t they just let off a few sparklers, bangers and firework-rockets like normal folks do on November 5th?

Aurora.PNG
strativarius
Reply to  Peta of Newark
November 5, 2023 2:48 am

These days it’s all imported Halloween stuff.

Kids don’t do penny for the Guy – that means making a Guy….

Instead they go door to door with mummy and daddy

Rich Davis
Reply to  strativarius
November 5, 2023 7:55 am

#StandWithFawkes

strativarius
November 5, 2023 1:28 am

Something to haarp about….

“”Just Stop Oil yob slammed by judge after she asks to delay trial so she can fly to India

The protester reportedly requested that she could fly the 9,000-mile round trip before her trial.””
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1831626/just-stop-oil-trial

November 5, 2023 2:10 am

Story Tip
Published Wednesday, November 1, 2023

Offshore wind farms can “steal” the capacity of other farms in their wake at distances of up to 50km away, a study has found.

According to a researcher from the University of Bergen in Norway, efficiency can be reduced by up to 20 per cent from this distance due to wake loss.

https://eandt.theiet.org/content/articles/2023/10/offshore-wind-farms-can-steal-the-capacity-of-other-farms-up-to-50km-away/

Reply to  Ben Vorlich
November 5, 2023 3:54 am

Every new report is a hit on windmills.

The windmill experiment needs to be ended. They are not fit for purpose.

Richard Page
Reply to  Dave Andrews
November 5, 2023 9:44 am

Yeah I think many people saw that one coming. I remember getting shouted down (or the post equivalent) when I mentioned it a few months ago. Let’s just get rid of them, the disadvantages vastly outnumber any small advantage, then we can perhaps move on?

Ptor
November 5, 2023 2:44 am

Sorry dude, the fruition of the work of Edward Teller, Bernard Vonnegut and Harry Wexler and the US military’s dream of full spectrum domination is not a ‘conspiracy theory’. Please, to preserve your own integrity, refrain from using that term…it is an ad hominem response to documented scientific reality and infers an inability to follow through with genuine discourse. When the Navy/Airforce announced that it had succeeded in it’s ‘mission’ with HAARP and was turning it over to the Uof A, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX3IOHpe6sY there were alternate means on the go to actualize/miniaturize the functionality they had achieved. Maybe just ponder why the military and DARPA would have spearheaded such a project before you censor and call people names. You can always call LBJ a nutjob https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKB4L6r17FE&t=8s

MarkW
Reply to  Ptor
November 5, 2023 8:06 am

Anyone who believes that full spectrum domination is even possible is a true nutjob.
It would take gigawatts of power, and require millions of antennas placed all over the world.

Reply to  MarkW
November 5, 2023 9:01 am

Everyone is a frigging nutjob to you. I just realised how unbalanced you really are.
your growing-up task for this hour: Go find out what the hell “full spectrum dominance” means, before you take part in a conversation you obviously do not grasp the basic vocabulary of. Hint:we are talking military strategy, not antennas.
Nutjob!

Richard Page
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 9:46 am

Not all of them, cilo, just the obvious ones that seem to feel the need to draw attention to themselves and their personal fantasies.

Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 10:11 am

Inasmuch as I agree with most of the things that Mark says, I take offense at your insults to him. Way to go to convince people they should believe you.

Reply to  Clyde Spencer
November 5, 2023 11:34 am

Aw, c’mon man, have a sense of humour! Calling him a nutjob is certainly no less amusing than him calling everyone who disagrees with him a nutjob, is it? Or are all nutjobs conspiring against you decent folk?

MarkW
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
November 5, 2023 6:48 pm

It’s not like he’s capable of putting together a rational argument in support of the nutty and occasionally vile things he believes.

Rich Davis
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 10:34 am

88!

Reply to  Rich Davis
November 5, 2023 11:32 am

I was going to say: “That sums up your mentality” when I realised the phrase may be mistaken for a speculation on your IQ, so I’ll just smile condescendingly.

Rich Davis
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 12:33 pm

Ouch, cilo, that’s a low blow. I’ve always been so embarrassed about my low IQ. It probably explains why I don’t understand you when you say that the Jews made up stories about genocide in order to make the dollar the reserve currency. Anyone could see that. At least a proud Aryan like you.

Reply to  Rich Davis
November 5, 2023 12:37 pm

Jews made up stories about genocide in order to make the dollar the reserve currency

I never said anything of the sort, thus you again display a concerning lack of either reading comprehension or intellectual honesty. Otherwise you would acknowledge that my remark specifically stated I am not referring to your IQ, but to your puerile attempt at associating me with Bolshevik nonsense like neo-Nazi 88 HH etc symbolism, like a child still fascinated by symbols and decals.
Grow up.

Rich Davis
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 1:06 pm

I never said anything of the sort

Oh really?
Admittedly it’s as coherent as a homeless man’s meth-addled screed, but I think it’s all there…

As with all other mass outsbreaks of anti-Semitism, this particular rewrite of history also happened as the interlude to a major change in the international financial system. You know, like just before Bretton Woods?

But we can stop the neurotic repetition of a false history made up to excuse genocide, selective censorship and misanthropic financial systems.
(6*10^6)/({3\1945}-{9\1942})>6500/day.
Go work out the practical logistics of that… then we can discuss 7 tons of ladies’ hair, human soap, 14 tons of gold from teeth….
No, we cannot change the past, but we can stop believing obvious lies. Or at least stop demanding others believe it too.

Reply to  Rich Davis
November 5, 2023 4:54 pm

Bingo.

MarkW
Reply to  Rich Davis
November 5, 2023 6:49 pm

I doubt cilo knows what he has said from one moment to the next.

MarkW
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 6:46 pm

Anyone who believes things that are physically impossible, is a nutjob.

ozspeaksup
November 5, 2023 2:55 am

last i read about it theyd managed to keep a “ball” of plasma in the ionosphere for a brief period of time. then they shut it down
so?
whats the power drain to do that? must be pretty damn HUGE

and how come THEY can fiddle with upper atmospherics(which may? have effect on mag fields in the area?) when a poofteenth of some trace gas is supposed to be so Naughty they have to ban it all cos it might upset someones applecart or an ozone hole

November 5, 2023 4:53 am

So many conspiracy theories… so little time. It is incredible how many otherwise sane individuals have bought into this crazy theory. About once a week I get questioned from an interviewer about HAARP intentionally burning Maui. Perhaps they really AREN’T sane after all.

Richard Page
Reply to  gwrightstone
November 5, 2023 9:50 am

Erm, whatever made you think they might be sane in the first place? A clinical derangement like that is not a sign that a person is thoroughly grounded in reality.

Reply to  gwrightstone
November 5, 2023 10:17 am

I long ago decided that humans are not basically rational creatures. They are only capable of rational behavior for short periods in order to achieve their irrational goals.

Having rubbed shoulders with Mensans for decades, I have also concluded that having a high intelligence is also no guarantee of rational behavior. The major difference between a member of Mensa and the general public is that the Mensans are generally able to better articulate their rationalizations for their irrational behavior.

Richard Page
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
November 5, 2023 12:08 pm

That is a truly profound insight into the human condition. I may have to borrow it.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
November 5, 2023 5:26 pm

I’m an intelligent guy: 148 IQ measured as a teenager growing up in an impoverished, fatherless environment. People often would not realize my meaning when I told them I “feed my ego with my intellect.” Human emotions and other psychological limitations/impairments limit our ability to act rationally at all levels. That’s why propaganda works.

littlepeaks
November 5, 2023 6:06 am

What frequencies will HAARP be using. One of my hobbies is amateur radio, and I am interested in what their signal(s) sound like running this magnitude of power.

Reply to  littlepeaks
November 5, 2023 6:26 am

From the article:

“HAARP transmission frequencies will vary but will occur between 2.8 and 10 megahertz”

littlepeaks
Reply to  karlomonte
November 5, 2023 6:46 am

Thanks. I missed it. Must be jet lag — just got back from Korea on Friday evening — need more coffee.

Reply to  littlepeaks
November 5, 2023 7:04 am

That’s a loooooong trip.

Bob N
Reply to  littlepeaks
November 5, 2023 7:47 am

I will not be happy if HAARP interferes with my Amateur (Ham) Radio reception. Was awful in years past when the “Russian Woodpecker” over the horizon radar was rampant.

Reply to  littlepeaks
November 5, 2023 9:13 am

Dude, far’s we know, that array is just that; an array antenna, tunable and steerable over a wide range. We assume they use microwave frequencies, but the original documentation was not specific enough for me to remember. What I do remember, is that the project was the winner of an open tender to find a use for the vast gas field under Alaska, which was too far away to economically exploit. Unlimited power, how big can you build?
As for the full facts? It was a friggin’ military job, whatever you hear is lies, and what little truth there is, probably support the lies. But if they work at a few Megs, then that array can be pointed just about anywhere on earth, re-opening the weapon question…
Then we can start discussing Whittaker ca. 1904, and scalar beams, but apparently maths is double-plus ungood these days.
Point is, they used it, then closed it, and now they lent it to some organisation with no accountability to anyone outside their boardroom. And now they tell us it’s just a toy, we are gonna play a bit with the geomagnetosphere at interesting times. For profit, apparently.
I suspect the Apocolypse will come about when some sod decides to save on operating costs by bringing the asteroids closer to earth, for cheaper mining and transport.

Richard Page
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 9:52 am

Bloody hell cilo, just reading the crap you’ve written makes me want to go and have a shower to get clean again.

Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 10:20 am

We assume they use microwave frequencies …

You should read more carefully.

Reply to  Clyde Spencer
November 5, 2023 11:42 am

You should read more carefully.

Have been. For twenty years or so. A lot more went on there than we’re told, amateurs had real problems understanding what came out there, signals not easily explained by stated techniques. It led to wild speculation, but nobody tried countering it with honesty.
Today’s article is but one of many hundreds I’ve read, and I was not limiting my comment to data on this page, forgive me for exceeding your attention span.

Richard Page
Reply to  cilo
November 5, 2023 12:13 pm

Alternatively they told these amateurs what was honestly going on and they refused to accept it, being already lost in their own private fantasy world of government secrets, cover-up’s and re-runs of the X-Files!

MarkW
Reply to  Richard Page
November 5, 2023 6:55 pm

cilo reminds me of a commercial I’ve been seeing lately.

“There’s pod Carl, and non-pod Carl.”

michael hart
November 5, 2023 3:59 pm

On the artistic side of this physical phenomenon, some years ago Bristol University Physics Department engaged an artist in residence, Richard Box.

Perhaps his most celebrated piece was a field full of fluorescent light tubes planted in the ground under a high-power AC transmission line. No electrical contacts, of course.

It was quite impressive.
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