By P Gosselin
German online agriculture information site agrarheute.com here asks whether the climate models wrong since the East “East Pacific has been cooling down more and more over the past 30 years” and this “contrary to all predictions”.
Modern agriculture knows that oceanic cycles have significant consequences for global agriculture.
No explanation for cooling
“Why does this part of the eastern Pacific contradict climate models, scientists ask, and they can’t find a simple explanation,” reports agriheute.com. The cooling of the East Pacific has defied the forecasts made by climate models, which predicted a warming due to “greenhouse gas” emissions.
The region of cooling is the ocean area that “stretches west of Ecuador” and “could reduce greenhouse gas warming by 30 percent”. The false prediction by climate models risk misleading the agriculture industry, as it is known that ocean temperatures impact growing conditions around the world.
Major impacts around the world
“The steady cooling also has global implications. The future of the cold region could determine, among other things, whether California is hit by a permanent drought or Australia faces increasingly severe wildfires,” agrarheute.com adds. “It affects the intensity of the monsoon season in India and the likelihood of droughts and famines in the Horn of Africa. It could even change the scale of climate change worldwide by altering the sensitivity of Earth’s atmosphere to rising greenhouse gas emissions.”
Relying on faulty climate models could put farmers totally on the wrong track.
Lots of unknowns
“The problem is that if we don’t know why this cooling is happening, we don’t know when it will stop or if it will suddenly turn into warming,” said Pedro DiNezio of the University of Colorado at Boulder.
If natural phenomena are causing large oceanic regions to cool, then it is not a stretch of the imagination to think that natural factors are likely causing other regions to warm. It’s the cycles, stupid!
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Therein lies the alarmist paradigm
No one fully understands climate yet, to say it’s settled, is a blatant lie
Curiously, there were 67 comments when I wrote this, and no one has used the phrase coastal upwelling, a well-known phenomenon which draws cool subsurface waters to the surface and is known to occur along the coasts of Peru and California.
Regards,
Bob
I would seem that the surprised climate models didn’t account for it either. 😎
Bob, you might be able to answer this.
Hunga Tonga was a submarine eruption that had actually been “happening” since December before the big eruption..
It must have added a large amount of energy to the ocean around it at whatever depth it was erupting.
Where would the main ocean currents take this energy, and how long would it take to be detectable?
What effects might it have?
My understanding from looking at circulation charts is that the South Pacific gyre would take the energy south towards the Antarctic, (how long would it take?) then link into the Antarctic Circumpolar current.
I mentioned that in another thread, but several people ignored it.
Bob, I initially had the same thought about upwelling. But what would have caused an increase in upwelling necessary to cool the East Pacific over time?
The only reason we need to know the “why” of any weather anomaly is so it can be ultimately blamed on human civilization. Or to find evidence to fight off the bogus blaming with actual truth. Authority and truth don’t matter anymore. No one trusts a word anyone says out side of the tribe. It’s the nut-job echo chamber political world we live in. It’s very toxic psychologically.
People would be far better off to shut it down and go do something else.
Really? The UN has already released a video explaining there is no ice or snow in Antarctica or the Arctic, so clearly all the coolth went to the East Pacific because humans are evil. Once all humans are dead everything will be FINE! Oh, but not them, they are GOOD humans because they want all humans to be dead because humans are evil, except for them. Got it?!?!? You evil human assholes?!?!?!? Just die and the climate will be FINE!!!!!!
So eventually half the world will be boiling and the other half an ice age. Jeez oh Pete we gotta get this climate change figgerd out. We need more $ to study this.
“Why does this part of the eastern Pacific contradict climate models”
Do the models agree for some other part of the world? I’m not saying climate models can’t work, but results from the earliest ones look poor with the passage of time.
O further thought prognosis might be worse if the model accuracy were good everywhere. .
“Why does this part of the eastern Pacific contradict climate models, scientists ask, and they can’t find a simple explanation,” reports agriheute.com.”
It’s the unconscious humour that is so endearing about the climate narrative.
Paraphrasing. Climate wrong, models right. The climate is guilty of misinformation and must be cancelled. How dare it contradict The Settled Science!
From what I’ve read on this site about the El Nino Southern Oscillation, cooling of the East Pacific (La Nina) causes droughts in California but heavy monsoons in east Asia, while warming of the East Pacific (El Nino) results in heavier rain in the American west but weaker monsoons in east Asia.
From the ENSO meter on this site, we’re in a strong El Nino now, but there were La Nina conditions in 2020 through 2022. Whether this is good or bad depends on which side of the Pacific one lives.