Please can someone look at why many of the parts of the Sea Ice Page seem to be stuck at the beginning of October, and if possible correct the faults.
Or is it just my desktop playing up?
Either way, thanks in advance.
I’m on Firefox as well. Must be something here, then.
Carbon500
November 2, 2022 3:16 am
The UK’s Met Office asks for suggestions regarding improvements to its website.
I’ve put forward a request that they provide links to the key published papers behind the CO2/global warming/climate change story, along with comments about each.
There are thousands of published scripts – but which are regarded as the most important papers?
In the UK, the ruling party and opposition are both controlled by people who have absolutely no understanding of how vitally important energy is to the modern community. When the Tory party rank and file managed, against all odds, to put in someone (Liz Truss) who understood that and would act to get the UK’s energy going again (fracking for gas), there was a storm of opposition from the jilted cabal in her own party – a cabal which thought that only they had the right to rule. They used a movement in the British pound’s value to create a storm and remove her. Well, I have news for Mr Smarty-Pants Rishi Sunak: You may think you are a brilliant manager of money and will get the UK’s finances working smoothly, but you are in just as much self-delusion as the worst of the others. Without energy, the economy collapses, and when the economy collapses it doesn’t matter how well you manage the money, there won’t be enough money to be managed. For all her many faults, Liz Truss did understand energy, and her approach could in time have succeeded, if only her party had supported her and had done their best to make her approach work. Basically, her government would have capped energy prices and cut taxes to keep the country going, while freeing up gas exploration, The money borrowed to pay for it would have been repaid easily with the money generated when the gas started flowing, and there would have been enough left over (the gas reservoir is larger than the North Sea) to start a national fund for the future (as done by Norway). With the ignorant Rishi Sunak running things, it appears that the one thing that could rescue Britain – energy – will be denied them.
“Well, I have news for Mr Smarty-Pants Rishi Sunak: You may think you are a brilliant manager of money and will get the UK’s finances working smoothly, but you are in just as much self-delusion as the worst of the others. Without energy, the economy collapses, and when the economy collapses it doesn’t matter how well you manage the money, there won’t be enough money to be managed.”
Yes, a failed energy sector is going to take Rishi down with all the rest of the nation.
Sunak’s banning of fracking was a political move, not a move designed to help the people of the UK. It was the equivalent of Biden stopping the Keystone pipeline on his first day in office. Sunak has now set the tone for failure.
Sometimes smart guys aren’t as smart as they thought they were. Too bad the whole nation has to suffer for the stupidity of smart guys.
is going to take Rishi down with all the rest of the nation.
If you do not see the brilliance in Rishi’s actions, you are probably one of them conspiracy nuts who refuse to admit the whole purpose IS to bring down the entire nation.
How will we build Airfield One, if we do not first clear the land of plebes with delusions of relevance, citizenship even?
Paraphrasing St. John, “Babylondon will be roost to terrible and evil birds…” How mean must a bird be, to be ‘terrible’?
Back in the 80’s I recall a newspaper article lamenting that Aberdeen, then the “Houston” of the European oil and gas industry, had been ruined by all the wealth generated by the industry.
I expect there are a few home owners in Lancashire who wouldn’t mind being ruined in this fashion if only a politician explained it that way to them.
Yes, you make a good point, and the article says there are 45,000 operating shale gas wells in the USA. These have been hydraulically fracture stimulated in ~ horizontal well bore reaches.
These fracture-stimulated horizontal drill hole segments are but the newer application of multiple technologies. As has been discussed here at WUWT previously, hydraulic fracture stimulation began in about 1948 and more than a million wells in the USA and Canada have been hydraulically fracture stimulated.
(As an aside, years ago a physicist told me about the three types of gyroscopes. Gyroscopes are essential to the shale gas work. Years before the gyroscope lesson, I was fascinated to learn how measurements at the business end of the drill string (drill bit assembly) are communicated in real time to the surface by pressure pulses in the (liquid) drilling fluid. This is now all “ancient history“.)
Research and technology development are continuous and critical parts of earth resource development – oil and gas, lithium, cobalt, nickel, rare earth elements, vanadium, manganese, … Such investments are enabled by multiple, diverse and profitable enterprises.
Bill Rocks,
In the 1980s we had a drilling company subsidiary working with our geophysicists to invent a device to locate the 3D position of the drill bit with respect to the collar coordinates. We had a particular impediment of abundant magnetite in one region, which eliminated mag methods to help location. We watched ring lasers getting smaller, but saw limits from light escape as ring diameter decreased. There were already problems with signal transmission, but we did not know about pulses in the mud.
I mention these early days as illustrations of how dangerous it is to fail to factor in the ingenuity of people, shown by eventual solutions to problems like these after we put them in the too-hard basket. Bit navigation solutions allowed horizontal directional drilling that is now worth billions to trillions of $$$ to society.
The overall climate change problem is not helped by deliberate actions to silence and criticise ingenuity in favour of enforced settled science. This pathetic approach has the capability to lead to armed conflict.
The world must nurture and value human ingenuity and give it a place in social constructs like the social cost of carbon.
Geoff S
“In the UK, the ruling party and opposition are both controlled by people who have absolutely no understanding of how vitally important energy is to the modern community.”
Don’t narrow it down to just the ruling party and the opposition. No UK party understands the importance of (1) abundant energy, (2) reliable energy, or (3) petrochemicals (e.g. fertilizer). If many individual MPs understands they are keeping quiet about it in spite of parliamentary privilege that is supposed to allow them to say pretty much anything.
Maybe Truss understood, but she certainly didn’t understand that her party absolutely doesn’t.
Now we see Michael Gove putting an end to “investment zones”, saying, explicitly: “anything that might in anyway undermine environmental protections is out”.
Remind me why we left the European single market… Sounds like we’re just going to buy stuff from foreigners until the credit card runs dry.
I’m going to guess it has something to do with a feeling maths and science are a bit…practical, a bit working class, not quite nice; “pongs” and dirty fingernails and all. Whereas land-owning conservative types study Greek and Latin and possibly a bit of English literature. At their most practical they will study politics as a subject.
My father was a civil engineer and came close to punching a neighbour who made it clear he couldn’t be friendly with someone who “made things”.
I shall be fascinated to see how they orate the country to prosperity as we wait for the next election.
Joseph,
‘Mrs.T’. was never really accepted by the ‘old’ Tories.
Accepted, whilst successful – yes, I agree.
Folks like me – I joined the Tories in about 1977 – thought she was pretty good, but we were only in a majority for a while.
She was human, too, don’t forget.
Unfortunately, that is the main story of human history.
It’s dog eat dog until you find that you are the top dog. At that point stability and a few rules of law suddenly become very appealing. The rest of us have to suck it up.
That fine document, the US Constitution, was untruthful in one important respect. Instead of starting with “We the people….”, it should have read “We the rich people of the colonies think you, the rich people of the homeland, aren’t giving us a fair crack of the whip. So pony up and give us more say, or we’ll just take it.”
Sure, they used the fine words about rights to get many of the poorer people on side, but they probably didn’t think it would be fully extended to all kinds of the poor and persons they didn’t really count as full humans.
The Barons at Runnymede did the same thing when they drew up the Magna Carta. Their focus was mostly upwards, not down.
In the Ron Chernow biography of George Washington- the author pointed out that the main reason or at least a significant reason GW hated the British was that they wouldn’t give him a commission in the regular British army after his mostly successful colonial, military service, instead they told him to be happy as a colonial officer only. His giant ego was offended.
If you actually read the US Constitution without thinking of the social class of the authors,, it’s about as socially neutral as any document ever written.
Once upon a time those who studied Greek and Latin were well grounded in logic and would have demolished the alarmist narrative. Now it seems that they take this wonderful degree, political science, but are sorely lacking in both science and logic but well schooled is propaganda.
Our First amendment helps to neutralize the effect of propaganda but the propaganda is incessant, and thus spreading the truth faces an uphill battle.
There is a faction of the Republican party, e.g., Bush/Cheney/McConnell, which would just as soon do away with the little people, making it difficult for true conservatives to take charge. There is still some hope alive for next week.
Britain’s 1999 public health insurance cut, the N.I.C.E. Act, eliminated any costly medical procedures for seniors (mostly conservatives) ; thus leaving few alive by-now, compared to young adults (mostly brainwashed progressives) .
Your arguments are presaged on the assumption that someone actually cares. They know full well what they are doing. They are paid or blackmailed into doing it anyway.
Have the carbonaceous shale ‘resources’ been shown to be producible? Poland was unsuccessful with their deposits. China was unsuccessful with theirs. Romania has a large formation that extends from border to border NS and EW that isn’t being produced. Perhaps they need US’s or Canada’s industry to do this.
absolutely no understanding of how vitally important energy is to the modern community
I’m not sure that assumption is correct. They know full well the importance of energy to a modern community, that is why they are restricting it, to destroy the society, deliberately. They are in league with, or under threat by, extra-governmental forces, primarily the WEF, but also others. This is not just restricted to UK, it is also prevalent in other mainly Western countries. These countries are being deliberately destroyed through restrictions in energy availability, pricing productive enterprises out of existence and curtailing of the ability to grow food at scale through limits and taxes on Nitrogen and Methane. This is a very deliberate act, it will all end in disaster if they aren’t stopped.
Tom Abbott
November 2, 2022 3:42 am
Well, in six more days Americans will go to the voting polls and change history.
At worst, Biden’s destructive agenda will be halted. At best, Republicans will win enough seats to actually take some legislative action to help the nation.
The radical Democrats are going down, and they can see it coming.
What’s coming after a Republican victory is an exhaustive investigation of the crimes committed by Hillary Clinton’s Crime Syndicate, and the Obama-Biden Crime families, and their attempts to destroy the Democratic process in the Unied States with the goal of putting radical Democrats in charge in perpetuity.
They almost got there. And they still might get there if Republicans don’t respond appropriately. The radical Democrats have not given up their aspirations to gain complete control over the people of the United States. Republicans need to put a stop to these crimes by exposing the criminals and what they did to the American public.
The radical Democrats know they are vulnerable to being declared criminals and traitors and that’s what they fear will happen if Republicans win. Let’s hope they are correct.
The radical Democrats are actively trying to undermine the United States. Republicans need to make this perfectly clear to the American public. The American Public has a right to know who is trying to steal their freedoms from them. It’s not the Republicans.
Lots of investigations. We need lots of investigations. Lots of things to investigate. Lots of criminal, traitorous Democrats to expose.
A simple majority is enough in the House but the Senate requires two thirds to break a filibuster. ThevAmerican system was specifically designed to limit government power and it still works.
After 2020 we have lost faith in the honesty of elections. So this one is likely to be widely contested. The 2024 presidential election should be very interesting.
NO, 60 votes is all to end a filibuster, i.e. end debate of a measure in the Senate.
2/3 is to override a veto or propose an amendment to the constitution.
A scary thing that most people don’t know is that it only takes 60 votes to approve a treaty, and a treaty has the effect of a constitutional amendment, thus Democrats attempting from time to time to form a treaty banning “small arms” in possession of citizens, that is to overturn the 2nd amendment.
At least no further destructive legislation such as “The Inflating Inflation Act” will be likely.
Brandon (or Kamal?) will be able to veto constructive legislation but, at least, Congress will be able and WILLING to challenge them.
Well Tom a great wish list. From over here in marxist satanic Scotland I am hoping your wishes come true next week.
My only caveat is have you actually seen any prospective “new” politicians promising to muck out the stable?
If Britain (and the western world) is anything to go by, the old adage which states It does not matter who you vote for – the government gets in.
In otrher words all parties are one cheek of the same arse, and will do damn all to drain the bog.
Funny how you think McConnell will be the next Republican leader in the Senate. His fear of loosing that job has been shown in his withdrawing support from Masters in AZ and Bolduc in NH, both who have stated they will not support him for leader, and for Murkowski in Alaska, over 9 million spent against another REPUBLICAN, because the true Republican will vote against him. Hopefully the less conservative senators will hold him accountable.
The swamp is deep, and shallow. McConnell, with any luck and a HUGH red wave, will not replace Schumer. Tim Scott, Ted Cruz, or better yet Mike Lee, the most conservative US Senator would change the whole landscape leading up to the 2024 election.
If, as is slightly possible, the Rs pick up 4 to 6, the Republican caucus could kick out 3 to 5 RINOs such as Romney, McConnell, Collins and Murkowski IF she squeaks in, and rule with 51 votes.
This election cycle Burr from NC, and Ben Sasse, both leftist RINOs, are already gone so that are two less to worry about.
Romney and McConnell, both up in 2024 and from strongly conservative states, would need to go along or face the wrath of the voters in their next elections. Collins is in her last term either way. Better yet, when they don’t get any committee chairmanships, and possibly very few seats on ANY committees, especially Judiciary, they caucus with the Dems and show their true colors (colours for you in the UK and Aus., ETC.).
BTW, IF there is a BIG senate pick up, the Republicans could have as many as 26 of the 34 seats in this year senate cycle, a BIG advantage for years to come.
Next cycle with a big majority of 23 to 10 for the Dems, and Dem HELD seats in Montana, Wisconsin, Arizona, Ohio, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Nevada and especially West Virginia, that margin could change to 18 for the R, 15 for the D, and for the first time in MY lifetime, the Rs WOULD HOLD a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. IF McConnell and Romney were also replaced with CONSERVATIVE Republicans all the better. For that to happen, a Republican, by necessity, would also have been elected President and the House would be majority R. Thus with a conservative dominated US federal government, they could legislatively clean house on all of the last 60 years of entitlements and leftist government expansion of federal power. Heck, they might even institute looser pays in the courts, ending lawfare as we know it.
I CAN dream, can’t I?
BTW: How it the Dem ploy of supporting the FAR RIGHT EXTREEMIST R candidates working out for them? We shall see, but they may have saved the R from having 3 or 4 more RINOs in the senate!
Tom, I hope with you. However, you assume that the Republicans actually know what “legislative action” to take “to help the nation”. I fear that the generally low quality of candidates on both sides will just result in lot’s of theater that will help CNN’s ratings.
Just to be clear Tom, what crimes did Obama commit that he needs to be so worried about? I am unaware of Obama being charged with any crimes while in or out of office. Your friend Donald on the other hand…..
There is a point to be made about the recent data for the Greenland ice sheet. It is not that the overall mass loss and resulting slow sea level rise has reversed or stopped.
It is the demonstration that the slow increase in atmospheric CO2 to the present levels IS OBVIOUSLY NOT CAPABLE of suppressing the net surface accumulation of ice mass. 2021-2022 ended well above average for the base period 1981-2010, and 2022-2023 to date is at the high end of the base period range.
Acceleration of sea level rise due to higher CO2 levels in the atmosphere? Doubtful.
True, Bill….but the global temp has gone up 0.3% so one might argue that there is an amplification factor of 300….so the validity is in question should you use it as a point of discussion with a warmunist….
But, that “amplification” suggests that it is a spurious correlation — just coincidence that they are moving in the same general direction. Like a log floating down a river, it is not responsible for the river being in flood; CO2 is not responsible for all the warming.
I don’t have any reason to dispute the static radiative warming effect of ~2 W/m^2 of an increase, say, from 280 ppmv CO2 in pre-industrial conditions to the present value of about 420 ppmv. (Or ~0.03 percent to ~0.04 percent) Rather, I challenge the claim that the energy involved in this static effect must accumulate on land and in the oceans. It need not, as it is so easily transferred to the atmosphere as the working fluid of its own heat engine operation, driving circulation through high altitudes.
Mean Precipitation For a future warmer climate. . . Globally averaged mean water vapour, evaporation and precipitation are projected to increase.
Increased precipitation would include raising water levels in lakes, rivers, water tables and increased snow on the polar ice caps & glaciers. That’s hardly a recipe for accelerating the rate at which sea level is rising.
Balance Transferred from previous Open Thread:
“..blah blah we’re all so fat blah blah it is the fat no it is the sugar no it is the starch blah blah…”
I aim this at the bloke who stated the terrifying dangers of ‘simple sugars, like fructose blah blah’.
Your hatred of fructose stems from a disinformation campaign run by the people who put artificial sugar in kids’ vitamin tablets. In particular, you are Following The Science (TM) built around hiding the effects of HFC, otherwise known as High Fructose Corn Syrup.
All honest statistics show that people who eat the dreck often succumb to diabetes, obesity, liver and kidney failure, a gutted gut biome leading to proven psychological aberrations etc etc. Unfortunately the statistics are very noisy, polluted as it is by:
1) Aspartame, a highly addictive trojan that breaks down into, amongst other things, embalming fluid. Inside your body. Known side effects include diabetes, obesity, liver and kidney dysfunction, a damaged intestinal fungal population, which in turn leads to many diseases, including mental degradation.
2) Monosodium Glutamate, a viciously addictive additive, with known detrimental health results, like diabetes, obesity, liver and kidney disease……need I go on?
Most people are fat, not necessarily because they are slobs with low self control, they are victims of a pharmaceutical industry that has polluted our food chain with addictive toxins.
Before you ask me for references, consider simple facts. High Fructose Corn Syrup contains “around 47% fructose, an economical and plentiful sweetener for the food processing industry”.
So, brothers and sisters, what is in the other 53%? Why is Yankee Ass (they’re so wiiide!) so prevalent wherever McDonalds go with their patented additive that addicts at the first taste, overriding the hormone system to feel hungry way past fullness?
Like Roundup, where we all yammer on about the glyphosate, when the manufacturers themselves allay our fears by stating “there are things a thousand times more toxic than glyphosate in Roundup”. Do you know the soft-drink companies are openly competing to find the most popular additive for the kids? Have you seen their FUN adds lately? Quite psychedelic I tell you, quite psychedelic.
Now I wait for all the graphs showing me how fruit (fructose!) have been causing death and dearth amongst mankind for millions of years already, and only by the grace of Baal Gates are we now aware of the terrible danger we have put millions of generations of our children through, allowing them to eat all them poisonous apples and pears and peaches and grapes and oh my goodness, sack and ash!.
From a fundamental perspective, if calories in are greater than calories out over time, then one accumulates weight.
We are not meant physiologically to be saturated with carbohydrates all of the time and health suffers if we are. Perhaps fructose in and of itself is not a poison, but its over consumption, particularly by way of dye-colored phosphoric acid infused caffeinated beverages without any nutritional value, is not healthy.
More help required .
I am doing some research on how countries emission profiles are assessed .
Does anyone know of a web site that is easy to understand and straight forward .
What I have found is that imports and shipping emissions are charged to the importing country for all goods .
But what I cannot find out is are exports from any country deducted from the exporting countries profile .
I am trying to find out because New Zealand exports around 85% of all food grown here but our GHG profile is high per person because of the methane from our farmed livestock .
I just keep running into gobely gook as I am quite sure that there is no factual information that makes any sense .
Surely all that food exported and consumed around tha world should be counted as emissions in those countries and deducted from our emissions .
I will be very grateful for any information
Easy. The Troposphere does not have a circulatory system as has been believed, for no scientific reason, for 70+ years. It has a system which operates more like a pendulum.
Probably the reason the much celebrated ‘hot spot’ never showed up, because the ‘scientists’ were working with completely the wrong data.
Beautiful work. Goes to show that the “settled” narrative is basically completely wrong at some level. Climate science as a whole should be embarrassed.
I noticed that about 12 hours ago a magnitude 6.0 earthquake was reported in the middle of the North Pacific at a location very roughly half way between California and Hawaii. To me this location seems a bit unusual for an earthquake of this magnitude. Typically I’d expect these size quakes at plate boundaries or hot spots (e.g. Hawaii, Iceland, Yellowstone). Can anyone comment? Is this unusual?
Was it definitely off the coast of California, or further north off the Oregon coast? If it was further north then not unusual, no – that area is well known for strong earthquakes, usually dozens each year.
Be patient. Soon enough the grauniad will have an article claiming it’s CO2 wot dunnit…
BigE
November 2, 2022 4:55 am
Wondering how all the global implementation of the “climate crisis remedies” play out…
I can see Earth’s temperature increases slowing from natural variability while CO2 level increases decline and ppm even goes flat. The alarmists will claim “see the effect of all the $ spent and suffering humankind endured?” “It worked!”
They will point to slowing CO2 increases as the reason without being able to show causation, etc.
How do you all see things in 50 years when many of today’s hardcore alarmists are at rest?
Offshore wind off New England no longer economically viable. Developers seek to renegotiate contracts. Hopefully these multi-billion dollar boondoggles will meet the same fate as Cape Wind. Our electric rates are skyrocketing as well as gas and heating oil. My truckers are paying over $5.50/gallon for diesel and it could get much worse as supply tightens. The bureaucrats and wind developers are blaming Russia and supply chain issues but the real culprit are the state and federal bureaucrats who are crippling domestic energy production. All we have to do here in New England is to increase pipeline capacity to the bountiful Marcellus Shale and we could greatly lower electric rates but the bureaucracy continues to push for the wind & solar boondoggles. I have two houses to heat this winter. Thankfully one has a wood stove and the other has a pellet stove which will lower my heat bills.
It never was. But Rep. Gov. of NH Chris Sununu still sang its’ praises in last night’s debate with his Dem challenger, Tom Sherman. And he’s silly about solar too, but Sherman is much worse.
Really? And someone said BoJo was a ‘shopping trolley’. Confirms what I said that Sunak is a weak PM who will do what others suggest rather than what is in the best interests of the country and the people he was elected to serve.
I think it is tradition that the country that chaired the last COP passes on the baton, as it were, to the new COP. Bojo has dropped hints and Sunak does not want him to do it.
No one is sure. Geothermal heat is highly variable in time (volcanic eruptions) and space (mostly along the ring of fire, and mid-ocean ridges). Thirty years ago a consensus estimate of an average was 70 mW/m2, now it slowly creeps above 100 mW/m2.
The beginning: “Who would have guessed that a UN COP would turn into a promotion point for fossil fuel development? COP27 is looking that way, thanks to the energy crisis and Africa’s determination to develop itself. After all, these are developing countries, right? In this case some of them want to develop, use and sell their abundant natural gas resources. Imagine the green horror! Poor countries actually making money from fossil fuels.
How, or even if, this rapidly emerging issue will get on the COP 27 table remains to be seen, but it is certainly a lively topic of discussion on the side. Europe needs gas and Africa has it; green agenda be damned.”
Lots more in the article. Please share it.
Go Africa!
Don132
November 2, 2022 11:37 am
There are three main ideas about the mechanism for CO2 warming. Have I missed anything? Thanks in advance.
CO2 back-radiates IR toward the surface and this additional radiation warms the surface.
CO2 causes IR congestion in the atmosphere and this congestion slows the cooling of the surface.
CO2 congestion in the atmosphere raises the emission height, and then we count down from this higher emissions height using the lapse rate to get a warmer surface temperature.
Does it actually warm the surface? Sure, for at least a pico-second. But does it last? Boundary Layer Feedback is a hypothesis that states the energy actually moves back into the atmosphere rather quickly or enhances evaporation. The reason is just the 2nd Law. You cooled the atmosphere to send energy to the now warmer surface. The warmer surface will then have a higher probability of warming the atmosphere. Once the energy returns to the atmosphere you are back to a stable thermodynamic position. The claimed warming quickly disappears.
The surface IR absorption for CO2 is already saturated. It’s the emission of energy from low in the atmosphere towards space that is slowed down (congested). However, With higher CO2 levels you also have more energy heading to space. Both changes are log functions. The net effect is almost no change at all to the energy that reaches space.
Two problems here. First, if the net effect I mentioned above is correct, then the emissions height is essentially a constant. Second, the emission height for CO2 is in the stratosphere and therefore raising it would lead to higher emissions to space.
Now, water vapor does get involved and makes this very complicated. As far as I can tell all the work to look into this is done in radiation models where they hold water vapor constant. I think there’s a lot missing.
Thanks, Richard M. Those were my thoughts as well. Particularly regarding CO2 emissions height, re-reading Andy May’s summary of the Happer and Van Wijngaarden paper https://clintel.org/the-greenhouse-effect-summary-of-the-happer-and-van-wijngaarden-paper/ figure 1, if CO2 emissions height is about 85 km that’s in the mesosphere, near the mesopause. But is that only for the center of emissions frequency and the edges of emissions frequency are in stratosphere?
In any case if center of CO2 frequency emissions height is pushed up into thermosphere– not far from 85 km– then temperature increases again and so do emissions.
I am doing a temperature station analysis where I live (Salt Lake City). I am looking through all of the rural stations with long term trends and graphing the avg. temperature for each season. I think that urbanization is affecting the airport’s data. I’ll share it once I’m done, but interestingly what I am finding is that winter has been flat, but summer on the other hand is warming. Fall and spring are also flat. Clearly there’s been some sort of weather pattern change. I’m thinking it has something to do with the PDO or the NAO. I’m pretty this is a natural phenomenon because I know that summer has warmed very little in other parts of the country.
Jon R
November 2, 2022 12:28 pm
Is that picture made by AI? I have been seeing some very strange paintings and drawings by AI lately. I think AI needs a shrink.
I haven’t seen the topic discussed and it’s rarely on any news.
The Three Gorges Dam was covered somewhat.
They are starting a dam project three times as big.
I think it is all quite fascinating. Norway is another interesting mega dam built country. But China is the big dog.
I sent this to Anthony suggesting a thread on the topic.
In all I think the China Hydro build up is a huge and little or untold story in our media. May be an interesting topic for WUWT readers to gang tackle, gather, substance on.
Dear Colleagues and Friends of Murry Salby,
You all know the excellent scientific work of Prof. Murry Salby published in his books, hundreds of papers and conference contributions and also presented in several videos. But some of you might not be aware that Murry passed away earlier this year. I recently made contact with Murry’s son who confirmed that his father died of a rapid unforeseen illness while he was visiting his son in Melbourne. His son has given me permission to inform you of this directly through this email.
Murry was one of the few real experts in atmospheric physics and climate science. He had extensively studied the main processes controlling the Earth-Atmosphere System and was able to deduce from this the true connections of increasing greenhouse gases and a changing climate. In times that are more determined by pseudo-science than serious climate science we have lost an important voice standing up for the true values in science and research and, even more so, in spite of the great personal attacks and existential impairments he had to bear over recent years. We pay the greatest tribute to the deceased for his extensive scientific work which has contributed to a much deeper understanding of climate processes.
We mourn the loss of a great colleague and friend. Hermann Harde
Helmut-Schmidt-University
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Dear Hermann,
I am deeply saddened by the news of Murry’s death. I have known Murry since he was a grad student at Georgia Tech. He was always bright, creative, and determined. Please pass my condolences to his son.
Sincerely, Richard Lindzen _________________
We have decided that the Journal Science of Climate Change will have a new web site: scienceofclimatechange.org, and that the papers published here will be Open Access. This includes the two papers of Salby & Harde mentioned below and one paper just submitted (Oct 24). The new web site is under construction.
Jan-Erik Solheim
new editor SCC, Norway
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Thank you Gentlemen for your kind words.
Murry Salby was my friend – he visited Calgary in the summers pre-Covid and we enjoyed many good talks. He was very bright and fit and rode his bicycle long distances most days. I was expecting to see him again once the Covid panic had passed.
Murry Salby, Hermann Harde and Ed Berry all proposed the hypothesis that much of the increase in atmospheric CO2 was natural and not human-made. The jury is still out on their hypo, but some of the smartest people I know think they were essentially correct. Theirs was an exercise in pure climate science, because we don’t need their hypo to disprove and utterly demolish the false notion of catastrophic human-made global warming – a fifty-year-old scam that was never supported by any credible evidence.
Best regards to all, Allan MacRae
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Dr. Roger Hodgkinson estimated approx. 20 million dead from the Covid-19 jab worldwide and over one billion adverse reactions to date, AND IT’S NOT OVER. I say he is correct. https://gloria.tv/post/9gFxV6Shy9eR1yxNcSiaQwrFm
Experts say that Covid-19-related illnesses this winter could be worse than ever.
The toxic Covid-19 “vaccines” greatly reduce your immunity, making you susceptible to all forms of illness – bacterial, viral, and rapid “turbo” cancers – which are exploding.
I warned you on 21Mar2020 and 8Jan2021. See my https://correctpredictions.ca/
WHAT INTELLIGENT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE COVID-19 NARRATIVE:
Masks did harm and little if any good.
The Covid-19 lockdown was a huge, unjustified, costly error that never should have happened.
Worst of all, the Covid-19 vaccines are toxic and have already killed more people than the virus.
Epilogue:
How is it that almost every country in the world made the same incredibly stupid and destructive errors – because it was the Plan! You are being culled, good people, and most of you are incapable of believing that.
Bon voyage!
Please can someone look at why many of the parts of the Sea Ice Page seem to be stuck at the beginning of October, and if possible correct the faults.
Or is it just my desktop playing up?
Either way, thanks in advance.
Seems to be working fine, I’m on Firefox and don’t recall any recent issues.
While we’re on the topic, ice is forming fast in the Arctic even though Algore hasn’t visited.
I’m on Firefox as well. Must be something here, then.
The UK’s Met Office asks for suggestions regarding improvements to its website.
I’ve put forward a request that they provide links to the key published papers behind the CO2/global warming/climate change story, along with comments about each.
There are thousands of published scripts – but which are regarded as the most important papers?
In the UK, the ruling party and opposition are both controlled by people who have absolutely no understanding of how vitally important energy is to the modern community. When the Tory party rank and file managed, against all odds, to put in someone (Liz Truss) who understood that and would act to get the UK’s energy going again (fracking for gas), there was a storm of opposition from the jilted cabal in her own party – a cabal which thought that only they had the right to rule. They used a movement in the British pound’s value to create a storm and remove her. Well, I have news for Mr Smarty-Pants Rishi Sunak: You may think you are a brilliant manager of money and will get the UK’s finances working smoothly, but you are in just as much self-delusion as the worst of the others. Without energy, the economy collapses, and when the economy collapses it doesn’t matter how well you manage the money, there won’t be enough money to be managed. For all her many faults, Liz Truss did understand energy, and her approach could in time have succeeded, if only her party had supported her and had done their best to make her approach work. Basically, her government would have capped energy prices and cut taxes to keep the country going, while freeing up gas exploration, The money borrowed to pay for it would have been repaid easily with the money generated when the gas started flowing, and there would have been enough left over (the gas reservoir is larger than the North Sea) to start a national fund for the future (as done by Norway). With the ignorant Rishi Sunak running things, it appears that the one thing that could rescue Britain – energy – will be denied them.
“Well, I have news for Mr Smarty-Pants Rishi Sunak: You may think you are a brilliant manager of money and will get the UK’s finances working smoothly, but you are in just as much self-delusion as the worst of the others. Without energy, the economy collapses, and when the economy collapses it doesn’t matter how well you manage the money, there won’t be enough money to be managed.”
Yes, a failed energy sector is going to take Rishi down with all the rest of the nation.
Sunak’s banning of fracking was a political move, not a move designed to help the people of the UK. It was the equivalent of Biden stopping the Keystone pipeline on his first day in office. Sunak has now set the tone for failure.
Sometimes smart guys aren’t as smart as they thought they were. Too bad the whole nation has to suffer for the stupidity of smart guys.
If you do not see the brilliance in Rishi’s actions, you are probably one of them conspiracy nuts who refuse to admit the whole purpose IS to bring down the entire nation.
How will we build Airfield One, if we do not first clear the land of plebes with delusions of relevance, citizenship even?
Paraphrasing St. John, “Babylondon will be roost to terrible and evil birds…” How mean must a bird be, to be ‘terrible’?
Back in the 80’s I recall a newspaper article lamenting that Aberdeen, then the “Houston” of the European oil and gas industry, had been ruined by all the wealth generated by the industry.
I expect there are a few home owners in Lancashire who wouldn’t mind being ruined in this fashion if only a politician explained it that way to them.
Good coverage here:
https://joannenova.com.au/2022/10/uk-chaos-its-almost-like-fracking-was-the-biggest-threat/
Says there are 45,000 fracking wells in the US. Surely that is proof of safety.
oh, yes, but heck, there are a few homes which supposedly have gas coming out their faucets- so, we must shut down this entire industry! /sarc
Yes, BEFORE anyone fracked in the area…
Those faucets were contaminated by old non-maintained, small diameter, low pressure leaking near-surface distribution piping.
Objective reality is not on the menu.
Yes, you make a good point, and the article says there are 45,000 operating shale gas wells in the USA. These have been hydraulically fracture stimulated in ~ horizontal well bore reaches.
These fracture-stimulated horizontal drill hole segments are but the newer application of multiple technologies. As has been discussed here at WUWT previously, hydraulic fracture stimulation began in about 1948 and more than a million wells in the USA and Canada have been hydraulically fracture stimulated.
(As an aside, years ago a physicist told me about the three types of gyroscopes. Gyroscopes are essential to the shale gas work. Years before the gyroscope lesson, I was fascinated to learn how measurements at the business end of the drill string (drill bit assembly) are communicated in real time to the surface by pressure pulses in the (liquid) drilling fluid. This is now all “ancient history“.)
Research and technology development are continuous and critical parts of earth resource development – oil and gas, lithium, cobalt, nickel, rare earth elements, vanadium, manganese, … Such investments are enabled by multiple, diverse and profitable enterprises.
Bill Rocks,
In the 1980s we had a drilling company subsidiary working with our geophysicists to invent a device to locate the 3D position of the drill bit with respect to the collar coordinates. We had a particular impediment of abundant magnetite in one region, which eliminated mag methods to help location. We watched ring lasers getting smaller, but saw limits from light escape as ring diameter decreased. There were already problems with signal transmission, but we did not know about pulses in the mud.
I mention these early days as illustrations of how dangerous it is to fail to factor in the ingenuity of people, shown by eventual solutions to problems like these after we put them in the too-hard basket. Bit navigation solutions allowed horizontal directional drilling that is now worth billions to trillions of $$$ to society.
The overall climate change problem is not helped by deliberate actions to silence and criticise ingenuity in favour of enforced settled science. This pathetic approach has the capability to lead to armed conflict.
The world must nurture and value human ingenuity and give it a place in social constructs like the social cost of carbon.
Geoff S
“In the UK, the ruling party and opposition are both controlled by people who have absolutely no understanding of how vitally important energy is to the modern community.”
Don’t narrow it down to just the ruling party and the opposition. No UK party understands the importance of (1) abundant energy, (2) reliable energy, or (3) petrochemicals (e.g. fertilizer). If many individual MPs understands they are keeping quiet about it in spite of parliamentary privilege that is supposed to allow them to say pretty much anything.
Maybe Truss understood, but she certainly didn’t understand that her party absolutely doesn’t.
Now we see Michael Gove putting an end to “investment zones”, saying, explicitly: “anything that might in anyway undermine environmental protections is out”.
Remind me why we left the European single market… Sounds like we’re just going to buy stuff from foreigners until the credit card runs dry.
Excellent.
Why on Earth do British conservatives fall for this green lunacy- when American conservatives do not?
I’m going to guess it has something to do with a feeling maths and science are a bit…practical, a bit working class, not quite nice; “pongs” and dirty fingernails and all. Whereas land-owning conservative types study Greek and Latin and possibly a bit of English literature. At their most practical they will study politics as a subject.
My father was a civil engineer and came close to punching a neighbour who made it clear he couldn’t be friendly with someone who “made things”.
I shall be fascinated to see how they orate the country to prosperity as we wait for the next election.
Margaret Thatcher, whom some of them profess to admire, was a chemist, but she was an exception in almost every possible way.
But didn’t her father own a grocery store- and somehow she was accepted in conservative circles?
Joseph,
‘Mrs.T’. was never really accepted by the ‘old’ Tories.
Accepted, whilst successful – yes, I agree.
Folks like me – I joined the Tories in about 1977 – thought she was pretty good, but we were only in a majority for a while.
She was human, too, don’t forget.
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By the way, as a Yank, I thought Merryl Streep’s portral of Mrs. T was very good- so I’m wondering how the British felt about it.
It’s always amazed me how – once thugs take over a nation- a few generations later, their now wealthy heirs become “cultured”.
Unfortunately, that is the main story of human history.
It’s dog eat dog until you find that you are the top dog. At that point stability and a few rules of law suddenly become very appealing. The rest of us have to suck it up.
That fine document, the US Constitution, was untruthful in one important respect. Instead of starting with “We the people….”, it should have read “We the rich people of the colonies think you, the rich people of the homeland, aren’t giving us a fair crack of the whip. So pony up and give us more say, or we’ll just take it.”
Sure, they used the fine words about rights to get many of the poorer people on side, but they probably didn’t think it would be fully extended to all kinds of the poor and persons they didn’t really count as full humans.
The Barons at Runnymede did the same thing when they drew up the Magna Carta. Their focus was mostly upwards, not down.
In the Ron Chernow biography of George Washington- the author pointed out that the main reason or at least a significant reason GW hated the British was that they wouldn’t give him a commission in the regular British army after his mostly successful colonial, military service, instead they told him to be happy as a colonial officer only. His giant ego was offended.
So how was it this “giant ego” — and I can’t think of many historical figures that didn’t have one — wanted only to be addressed as ” Mr. President”?
If you actually read the US Constitution without thinking of the social class of the authors,, it’s about as socially neutral as any document ever written.
That’s why it still works 200 years later.
Yes, “Gentlemen” and “players”.
Once upon a time those who studied Greek and Latin were well grounded in logic and would have demolished the alarmist narrative. Now it seems that they take this wonderful degree, political science, but are sorely lacking in both science and logic but well schooled is propaganda.
Our First amendment helps to neutralize the effect of propaganda but the propaganda is incessant, and thus spreading the truth faces an uphill battle.
There is a faction of the Republican party, e.g., Bush/Cheney/McConnell, which would just as soon do away with the little people, making it difficult for true conservatives to take charge. There is still some hope alive for next week.
Ther are no British conservatives any more. Not in government, anyway.
But why is that?
Edumacation and propaganda.
BBC eternal diet of [I love being charitable in November] sewi-demi-hemi-truths, also.
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Britain’s 1999 public health insurance cut, the N.I.C.E. Act, eliminated any costly medical procedures for seniors (mostly conservatives) ; thus leaving few alive by-now, compared to young adults (mostly brainwashed progressives) .
Because British “conservatives” are about the same as US DINO’s?
Because British ” conservatives” are left of American leftists.
hmmmm…. perhaps when the Empire was gone, they went limp?
Your arguments are presaged on the assumption that someone actually cares. They know full well what they are doing. They are paid or blackmailed into doing it anyway.
Have the carbonaceous shale ‘resources’ been shown to be producible? Poland was unsuccessful with their deposits. China was unsuccessful with theirs. Romania has a large formation that extends from border to border NS and EW that isn’t being produced. Perhaps they need US’s or Canada’s industry to do this.
I think that is part of the reason Sunak reinstated the moratorium (not a legal ban, note)
Its an easy win against the opposition
The reserves would not impact the gas supply (and hence price) anytime soon.
The one to watch now is the Cumbria mining decision ….
Mark, “The reserves would not impact the gas supply (and hence price) anytime soon”.
Nick Clegg, 2010 “not worth developing new nuclear reactors as they would not come on stream until 2021”.
I’m not sure that assumption is correct. They know full well the importance of energy to a modern community, that is why they are restricting it, to destroy the society, deliberately. They are in league with, or under threat by, extra-governmental forces, primarily the WEF, but also others. This is not just restricted to UK, it is also prevalent in other mainly Western countries. These countries are being deliberately destroyed through restrictions in energy availability, pricing productive enterprises out of existence and curtailing of the ability to grow food at scale through limits and taxes on Nitrogen and Methane. This is a very deliberate act, it will all end in disaster if they aren’t stopped.
Well, in six more days Americans will go to the voting polls and change history.
At worst, Biden’s destructive agenda will be halted. At best, Republicans will win enough seats to actually take some legislative action to help the nation.
The radical Democrats are going down, and they can see it coming.
What’s coming after a Republican victory is an exhaustive investigation of the crimes committed by Hillary Clinton’s Crime Syndicate, and the Obama-Biden Crime families, and their attempts to destroy the Democratic process in the Unied States with the goal of putting radical Democrats in charge in perpetuity.
They almost got there. And they still might get there if Republicans don’t respond appropriately. The radical Democrats have not given up their aspirations to gain complete control over the people of the United States. Republicans need to put a stop to these crimes by exposing the criminals and what they did to the American public.
The radical Democrats know they are vulnerable to being declared criminals and traitors and that’s what they fear will happen if Republicans win. Let’s hope they are correct.
The radical Democrats are actively trying to undermine the United States. Republicans need to make this perfectly clear to the American public. The American Public has a right to know who is trying to steal their freedoms from them. It’s not the Republicans.
Lots of investigations. We need lots of investigations. Lots of things to investigate. Lots of criminal, traitorous Democrats to expose.
Vote!
And take ten friends along to vote with you!
If you are a Democrat you would say:
“Vote, and take ten dead friends along to vote with you!”
Or, “vote early and vote often”.
If you were Robert Mugabe, you would say “Democracy means one man, one vote, and I am that man”
Mugabe was a disciple of the Patrician of Ankh-Morpork.
[Hat tip to Terry Pratchett].
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Vote early vote often!
The Senate will still be nearly tied so no major reform legislation is likely.
I suspect both houses will not have the majority being wished for.
I hope I am wrong but there is a chance of a blueing of voting hook or by crook
A simple majority is enough in the House but the Senate requires two thirds to break a filibuster. ThevAmerican system was specifically designed to limit government power and it still works.
After 2020 we have lost faith in the honesty of elections. So this one is likely to be widely contested. The 2024 presidential election should be very interesting.
“When congress is in session no American is safe.”
— Mark Twain
NO, 60 votes is all to end a filibuster, i.e. end debate of a measure in the Senate.
2/3 is to override a veto or propose an amendment to the constitution.
A scary thing that most people don’t know is that it only takes 60 votes to approve a treaty, and a treaty has the effect of a constitutional amendment, thus Democrats attempting from time to time to form a treaty banning “small arms” in possession of citizens, that is to overturn the 2nd amendment.
No treaty with another country has the effect of a Constitutional amendment. Where did you get that idea?
The Senate must vote by ay lesst 60 votes for cloture, to stop a filibuster, not 2/3s.
At least no further destructive legislation such as “The Inflating Inflation Act” will be likely.
Brandon (or Kamal?) will be able to veto constructive legislation but, at least, Congress will be able and WILLING to challenge them.
Well Tom a great wish list. From over here in marxist satanic Scotland I am hoping your wishes come true next week.
My only caveat is have you actually seen any prospective “new” politicians promising to muck out the stable?
If Britain (and the western world) is anything to go by, the old adage which states It does not matter who you vote for – the government gets in.
In otrher words all parties are one cheek of the same arse, and will do damn all to drain the bog.
Yes, the “deep state” is entrenched and in many cases pulls the levers. Still, I hope that Tom’s optimism is prophetic.
https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-says-it-may-take-days-for-democrat-votes-to-be-harvested
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/you-murderous-hypocrites-outrage-ensues-after-atlantic-suggests-amnesty-pandemic Hopefully this will be the general feeling.
Regardless of the majority, there will be no exhaustive investigation. McConnell finds such things distasteful.
If he is in charge.
Funny how you think McConnell will be the next Republican leader in the Senate. His fear of loosing that job has been shown in his withdrawing support from Masters in AZ and Bolduc in NH, both who have stated they will not support him for leader, and for Murkowski in Alaska, over 9 million spent against another REPUBLICAN, because the true Republican will vote against him. Hopefully the less conservative senators will hold him accountable.
The swamp is deep, and shallow. McConnell, with any luck and a HUGH red wave, will not replace Schumer. Tim Scott, Ted Cruz, or better yet Mike Lee, the most conservative US Senator would change the whole landscape leading up to the 2024 election.
If, as is slightly possible, the Rs pick up 4 to 6, the Republican caucus could kick out 3 to 5 RINOs such as Romney, McConnell, Collins and Murkowski IF she squeaks in, and rule with 51 votes.
This election cycle Burr from NC, and Ben Sasse, both leftist RINOs, are already gone so that are two less to worry about.
Romney and McConnell, both up in 2024 and from strongly conservative states, would need to go along or face the wrath of the voters in their next elections. Collins is in her last term either way. Better yet, when they don’t get any committee chairmanships, and possibly very few seats on ANY committees, especially Judiciary, they caucus with the Dems and show their true colors (colours for you in the UK and Aus., ETC.).
BTW, IF there is a BIG senate pick up, the Republicans could have as many as 26 of the 34 seats in this year senate cycle, a BIG advantage for years to come.
Next cycle with a big majority of 23 to 10 for the Dems, and Dem HELD seats in Montana, Wisconsin, Arizona, Ohio, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Nevada and especially West Virginia, that margin could change to 18 for the R, 15 for the D, and for the first time in MY lifetime, the Rs WOULD HOLD a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. IF McConnell and Romney were also replaced with CONSERVATIVE Republicans all the better. For that to happen, a Republican, by necessity, would also have been elected President and the House would be majority R. Thus with a conservative dominated US federal government, they could legislatively clean house on all of the last 60 years of entitlements and leftist government expansion of federal power. Heck, they might even institute looser pays in the courts, ending lawfare as we know it.
I CAN dream, can’t I?
BTW: How it the Dem ploy of supporting the FAR RIGHT EXTREEMIST R candidates working out for them? We shall see, but they may have saved the R from having 3 or 4 more RINOs in the senate!
I really hope you’re right, Tom.
Tom, I hope with you. However, you assume that the Republicans actually know what “legislative action” to take “to help the nation”. I fear that the generally low quality of candidates on both sides will just result in lot’s of theater that will help CNN’s ratings.
Just to be clear Tom, what crimes did Obama commit that he needs to be so worried about? I am unaware of Obama being charged with any crimes while in or out of office. Your friend Donald on the other hand…..
So I get 4 down votes for asking what Obama has done that means he is a criminal, but no one can actually tell me what he has done.
There is a point to be made about the recent data for the Greenland ice sheet. It is not that the overall mass loss and resulting slow sea level rise has reversed or stopped.
It is the demonstration that the slow increase in atmospheric CO2 to the present levels IS OBVIOUSLY NOT CAPABLE of suppressing the net surface accumulation of ice mass. 2021-2022 ended well above average for the base period 1981-2010, and 2022-2023 to date is at the high end of the base period range.
Acceleration of sea level rise due to higher CO2 levels in the atmosphere? Doubtful.
http://polarportal.dk/fileadmin/polarportal/surface/SMB_curves_LA_EN_20221101.png
According to Muana Loa measurements, the atmospheric CO2 level has risen only 1/100th of one percent in the last sixty-two years.
True, Bill….but the global temp has gone up 0.3% so one might argue that there is an amplification factor of 300….so the validity is in question should you use it as a point of discussion with a warmunist….
But, that “amplification” suggests that it is a spurious correlation — just coincidence that they are moving in the same general direction. Like a log floating down a river, it is not responsible for the river being in flood; CO2 is not responsible for all the warming.
I don’t have any reason to dispute the static radiative warming effect of ~2 W/m^2 of an increase, say, from 280 ppmv CO2 in pre-industrial conditions to the present value of about 420 ppmv. (Or ~0.03 percent to ~0.04 percent) Rather, I challenge the claim that the energy involved in this static effect must accumulate on land and in the oceans. It need not, as it is so easily transferred to the atmosphere as the working fluid of its own heat engine operation, driving circulation through high altitudes.
Acceleration of sea level rise due to higher CO2 levels in the atmosphere? Doubtful
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Assuming that CO2 should cause some warming:
The IPCC says:
IPCC AR4 Chapter 10 Page 750:
Mean Precipitation
For a future warmer climate. . . Globally averaged mean water
vapour, evaporation and precipitation are projected to increase.
Increased precipitation would include raising water levels in lakes, rivers, water tables and increased snow on the polar ice caps & glaciers. That’s hardly a recipe for accelerating the rate at which sea level is rising.
Good point. And warming from any cause, e.g. diminishing cloud fraction, would be expected to produce the same response.
Sunak wobbles
He will see you in Sharm el Sheik – he claims there can be no growth without climate action
Putin has my support for a strike on SW1 1AA
He’s terrified of Boris.
I’m sure that has a part in it. But then, I’m sure Boris hasn’t forgot Risky set up his Rishi for leader website 6 months before Boris was toast.
He’s terrified of something. He’s been issued with his marching orders
I’m terrified of Bunter too.
Precision, please.
Balance Transferred from previous Open Thread:
“..blah blah we’re all so fat blah blah it is the fat no it is the sugar no it is the starch blah blah…”
I aim this at the bloke who stated the terrifying dangers of ‘simple sugars, like fructose blah blah’.
Your hatred of fructose stems from a disinformation campaign run by the people who put artificial sugar in kids’ vitamin tablets. In particular, you are Following The Science (TM) built around hiding the effects of HFC, otherwise known as High Fructose Corn Syrup.
All honest statistics show that people who eat the dreck often succumb to diabetes, obesity, liver and kidney failure, a gutted gut biome leading to proven psychological aberrations etc etc. Unfortunately the statistics are very noisy, polluted as it is by:
1) Aspartame, a highly addictive trojan that breaks down into, amongst other things, embalming fluid. Inside your body. Known side effects include diabetes, obesity, liver and kidney dysfunction, a damaged intestinal fungal population, which in turn leads to many diseases, including mental degradation.
2) Monosodium Glutamate, a viciously addictive additive, with known detrimental health results, like diabetes, obesity, liver and kidney disease……need I go on?
Most people are fat, not necessarily because they are slobs with low self control, they are victims of a pharmaceutical industry that has polluted our food chain with addictive toxins.
Before you ask me for references, consider simple facts. High Fructose Corn Syrup contains “around 47% fructose, an economical and plentiful sweetener for the food processing industry”.
So, brothers and sisters, what is in the other 53%? Why is Yankee Ass (they’re so wiiide!) so prevalent wherever McDonalds go with their patented additive that addicts at the first taste, overriding the hormone system to feel hungry way past fullness?
Like Roundup, where we all yammer on about the glyphosate, when the manufacturers themselves allay our fears by stating “there are things a thousand times more toxic than glyphosate in Roundup”. Do you know the soft-drink companies are openly competing to find the most popular additive for the kids? Have you seen their FUN adds lately? Quite psychedelic I tell you, quite psychedelic.
Now I wait for all the graphs showing me how fruit (fructose!) have been causing death and dearth amongst mankind for millions of years already, and only by the grace of Baal Gates are we now aware of the terrible danger we have put millions of generations of our children through, allowing them to eat all them poisonous apples and pears and peaches and grapes and oh my goodness, sack and ash!.
From a fundamental perspective, if calories in are greater than calories out over time, then one accumulates weight.
We are not meant physiologically to be saturated with carbohydrates all of the time and health suffers if we are. Perhaps fructose in and of itself is not a poison, but its over consumption, particularly by way of dye-colored phosphoric acid infused caffeinated beverages without any nutritional value, is not healthy.
The sugar glucose which makes up the majority of our carbohydrate in our diet is the primary metabolic fuel of the human cell. Ergo nutritious
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How can the Sentinel-6 Michael Freilich data be easily accessed?
Has it been compared with Jason 3 data and the 2 data sets “spliced”?
More help required .
I am doing some research on how countries emission profiles are assessed .
Does anyone know of a web site that is easy to understand and straight forward .
What I have found is that imports and shipping emissions are charged to the importing country for all goods .
But what I cannot find out is are exports from any country deducted from the exporting countries profile .
I am trying to find out because New Zealand exports around 85% of all food grown here but our GHG profile is high per person because of the methane from our farmed livestock .
I just keep running into gobely gook as I am quite sure that there is no factual information that makes any sense .
Surely all that food exported and consumed around tha world should be counted as emissions in those countries and deducted from our emissions .
I will be very grateful for any information
Will make the nonsense more precise. Imprecision is more useful for the hype to continue.
If you haven’t seen this, you should watch it.
Every single weather and climate forecast will have to be rethought.
Conclusive evidence based on hard facts that the Troposphere does not act in the way people have believed for the last 70 years.
Quite long but well worth it as Michael Connolly is a complete hoot. A proper scientist who can explain a complicated subject to a 5 year old.
Quick, someone find a 5 year old.
I’m not sure that Michael Mann would be open to these new revelations.
… so the 5 year old can explain it to the Dems (and me).
Easy. The Troposphere does not have a circulatory system as has been believed, for no scientific reason, for 70+ years. It has a system which operates more like a pendulum.
Probably the reason the much celebrated ‘hot spot’ never showed up, because the ‘scientists’ were working with completely the wrong data.
Thank you for this suggestion. I agree – well worth the time!
Beautiful work. Goes to show that the “settled” narrative is basically completely wrong at some level. Climate science as a whole should be embarrassed.
They know no shame.
I noticed that about 12 hours ago a magnitude 6.0 earthquake was reported in the middle of the North Pacific at a location very roughly half way between California and Hawaii. To me this location seems a bit unusual for an earthquake of this magnitude. Typically I’d expect these size quakes at plate boundaries or hot spots (e.g. Hawaii, Iceland, Yellowstone). Can anyone comment? Is this unusual?
https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us7000ilwt/executive?utm_medium=email&utm_source=ENS&utm_campaign=realtime
Is there a Russian pipeline in the vicinity?
Jus’ practicin’….
Was it definitely off the coast of California, or further north off the Oregon coast? If it was further north then not unusual, no – that area is well known for strong earthquakes, usually dozens each year.
Looking at the interactive map – show epicenter about 800 miles off California coast and 1600 miles from Hawaii.
“Intraplate earthquakes” are nothing unusual. They do occur and are a major threat especially to the US east coast.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1811%E2%80%931812_New_Madrid_earthquakes
a Madrid repeat will only be deemed the direct fault of hydraulic fracturing 🙂
Or CO2, or Trump, or Bush. There are so many cause now.
Offshore northern California. Looks like it is in the vicinity of a transform fault, manifestation of a spreading ridge, perhaps.
Be patient. Soon enough the grauniad will have an article claiming it’s CO2 wot dunnit…
Wondering how all the global implementation of the “climate crisis remedies” play out…
I can see Earth’s temperature increases slowing from natural variability while CO2 level increases decline and ppm even goes flat. The alarmists will claim “see the effect of all the $ spent and suffering humankind endured?” “It worked!”
They will point to slowing CO2 increases as the reason without being able to show causation, etc.
How do you all see things in 50 years when many of today’s hardcore alarmists are at rest?
Offshore wind off New England no longer economically viable. Developers seek to renegotiate contracts. Hopefully these multi-billion dollar boondoggles will meet the same fate as Cape Wind. Our electric rates are skyrocketing as well as gas and heating oil. My truckers are paying over $5.50/gallon for diesel and it could get much worse as supply tightens. The bureaucrats and wind developers are blaming Russia and supply chain issues but the real culprit are the state and federal bureaucrats who are crippling domestic energy production. All we have to do here in New England is to increase pipeline capacity to the bountiful Marcellus Shale and we could greatly lower electric rates but the bureaucracy continues to push for the wind & solar boondoggles. I have two houses to heat this winter. Thankfully one has a wood stove and the other has a pellet stove which will lower my heat bills.
It never was. But Rep. Gov. of NH Chris Sununu still sang its’ praises in last night’s debate with his Dem challenger, Tom Sherman. And he’s silly about solar too, but Sherman is much worse.
CLINTEL sends a strong letter to COP27:
https://clintel.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/COP27-letter-def.pdf
Rishi Sunak performs first U-turn as UK Prime Minister and confirms he will attend COP27 after all
The lure of free meals .. or maybe gifts to developing nations?
Really? And someone said BoJo was a ‘shopping trolley’. Confirms what I said that Sunak is a weak PM who will do what others suggest rather than what is in the best interests of the country and the people he was elected to serve.
I think it is tradition that the country that chaired the last COP passes on the baton, as it were, to the new COP. Bojo has dropped hints and Sunak does not want him to do it.
COP and “tradition” in one sentence?
27 COPs is more than enough to create traditions.
This is the 30th anniversary of the 1992 UNFCCC (Rio) Treaty! No celebration? Still waiting for something to come of it, well not really.
Well blow me down with a feather, fancy that, a politician that says one thing and then does the opposite.
Cynicism at maximum.
The Tweets told him he had to go….
Funny how they’re cherry-picking Europes warm October just to tell everyone there’s a climate crisis.
… a sunny afternoon is usually all it takes.
It seems more a sign of UHI contamination being the source of most of the recorded warming,
WV Dog gives money to finish pipeline
https://marcellusdrilling.com/2022/11/wv-gov-justice-presents-1-9m-check-to-finish-natgas-pipeline/
Only in West Virginia! Where I live.
Strange. This open thread.
I was just wondering abt getting some help from all of you with this theory.
https://breadonthewater.co.za/2022/08/02/global-warming-how-and-where/
They say the up going heat flux from earth is only 0.1 W/ m2
I am not sure abt that. You?
No one is sure. Geothermal heat is highly variable in time (volcanic eruptions) and space (mostly along the ring of fire, and mid-ocean ridges). Thirty years ago a consensus estimate of an average was 70 mW/m2, now it slowly creeps above 100 mW/m2.
The problem is: how do you measure it?
UN COP27 — It’s a gas, gas, gas
By David Wojick
https://www.cfact.org/2022/11/02/un-cop27-its-a-gas-gas-gas/
The beginning: “Who would have guessed that a UN COP would turn into a promotion point for fossil fuel development? COP27 is looking that way, thanks to the energy crisis and Africa’s determination to develop itself. After all, these are developing countries, right? In this case some of them want to develop, use and sell their abundant natural gas resources. Imagine the green horror! Poor countries actually making money from fossil fuels.
How, or even if, this rapidly emerging issue will get on the COP 27 table remains to be seen, but it is certainly a lively topic of discussion on the side. Europe needs gas and Africa has it; green agenda be damned.”
Lots more in the article. Please share it.
Go Africa!
There are three main ideas about the mechanism for CO2 warming. Have I missed anything? Thanks in advance.
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Now, water vapor does get involved and makes this very complicated. As far as I can tell all the work to look into this is done in radiation models where they hold water vapor constant. I think there’s a lot missing.
Thanks, Richard M. Those were my thoughts as well. Particularly regarding CO2 emissions height, re-reading Andy May’s summary of the Happer and Van Wijngaarden paper https://clintel.org/the-greenhouse-effect-summary-of-the-happer-and-van-wijngaarden-paper/ figure 1, if CO2 emissions height is about 85 km that’s in the mesosphere, near the mesopause. But is that only for the center of emissions frequency and the edges of emissions frequency are in stratosphere?
In any case if center of CO2 frequency emissions height is pushed up into thermosphere– not far from 85 km– then temperature increases again and so do emissions.
I am doing a temperature station analysis where I live (Salt Lake City). I am looking through all of the rural stations with long term trends and graphing the avg. temperature for each season. I think that urbanization is affecting the airport’s data. I’ll share it once I’m done, but interestingly what I am finding is that winter has been flat, but summer on the other hand is warming. Fall and spring are also flat. Clearly there’s been some sort of weather pattern change. I’m thinking it has something to do with the PDO or the NAO. I’m pretty this is a natural phenomenon because I know that summer has warmed very little in other parts of the country.
Is that picture made by AI? I have been seeing some very strange paintings and drawings by AI lately. I think AI needs a shrink.
China has 85,000+ hydropower dams and more/bigger one are on the way.
https://chinafolio.com/hydro-power-and-hydro-hegemony/
I haven’t seen the topic discussed and it’s rarely on any news.
The Three Gorges Dam was covered somewhat.
They are starting a dam project three times as big.
I think it is all quite fascinating. Norway is another interesting mega dam built country. But China is the big dog.
I sent this to Anthony suggesting a thread on the topic.
There’s a whole litany of stories on China hydro build up.
One of many.
https://www.globalconstructionreview.com/chinas-plans-build-worlds-largest-hydropower-schem/ ; India follows suit?
This green one is funny as it reluctantly supports hydro but concocts a tall tale about climate change diminishing the water level.
https://www.greenmatters.com/renewables/three-gorges-dam-drought
The humor is contradicted by the blasting of a dam to deal with flood waters.
https://www.gcoportal.com/china-blasts-dam-to-release-floodwaters-as-death-toll-rises/
In all I think the China Hydro build up is a huge and little or untold story in our media.
May be an interesting topic for WUWT readers to gang tackle, gather, substance on.
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MURRY SALBY PASSED AWAY EARLIER THIS YEAR
Dear Colleagues and Friends of Murry Salby,
You all know the excellent scientific work of Prof. Murry Salby published in his books, hundreds of papers and conference contributions and also presented in several videos. But some of you might not be aware that Murry passed away earlier this year. I recently made contact with Murry’s son who confirmed that his father died of a rapid unforeseen illness while he was visiting his son in Melbourne. His son has given me permission to inform you of this directly through this email.
Murry was one of the few real experts in atmospheric physics and climate science. He had extensively studied the main processes controlling the Earth-Atmosphere System and was able to deduce from this the true connections of increasing greenhouse gases and a changing climate. In times that are more determined by pseudo-science than serious climate science we have lost an important voice standing up for the true values in science and research and, even more so, in spite of the great personal attacks and existential impairments he had to bear over recent years. We pay the greatest tribute to the deceased for his extensive scientific work which has contributed to a much deeper understanding of climate processes.
We mourn the loss of a great colleague and friend.
Hermann Harde
Helmut-Schmidt-University
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Dear Hermann,
I am deeply saddened by the news of Murry’s death. I have known Murry since he was a grad student at Georgia Tech. He was always bright, creative, and determined. Please pass my condolences to his son.
Sincerely, Richard Lindzen
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Dear Hermann,
We all thank you for your work to create and produce Murry Salby’s videos and scientific papers (jointly with you) that will forever be reminders of his significant contributions to atmospheric science.
What controls the atmospheric CO2 level? – SCC (klimarealistene.com)
Control of atmospheric CO2 Part 1 – SCC (klimarealistene.com)
Control of atmospheric CO2 Part 2 – SCC (klimarealistene.com)
Respectfully,
Ed Berry
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Dear Edwin and other good friends,
We have decided that the Journal Science of Climate Change will have a new web site: scienceofclimatechange.org, and that the papers published here will be Open Access. This includes the two papers of Salby & Harde mentioned below and one paper just submitted (Oct 24). The new web site is under construction.
As a tribute to Murry we make all three papers available at these addresses:
https://usercontent.one/wp/www.klimarealistene.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Salby-Harde-C142CO2-2022-03-12.pdf?media=1666637745
https://usercontent.one/wp/www.klimarealistene.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Salby-Harde-ITW-RR-2022-03-14.pdf?media=1666637745
https://usercontent.one/wp/www.klimarealistene.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Salby-Harde-TIGG-2022-10-24.pdf?media=1666637745
Jan-Erik Solheim
new editor SCC, Norway
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Thank you Gentlemen for your kind words.
Murry Salby was my friend – he visited Calgary in the summers pre-Covid and we enjoyed many good talks. He was very bright and fit and rode his bicycle long distances most days. I was expecting to see him again once the Covid panic had passed.
Murry Salby, Hermann Harde and Ed Berry all proposed the hypothesis that much of the increase in atmospheric CO2 was natural and not human-made. The jury is still out on their hypo, but some of the smartest people I know think they were essentially correct. Theirs was an exercise in pure climate science, because we don’t need their hypo to disprove and utterly demolish the false notion of catastrophic human-made global warming – a fifty-year-old scam that was never supported by any credible evidence.
Best regards to all, Allan MacRae
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Dr. Roger Hodgkinson estimated approx. 20 million dead from the Covid-19 jab worldwide and over one billion adverse reactions to date, AND IT’S NOT OVER. I say he is correct.
https://gloria.tv/post/9gFxV6Shy9eR1yxNcSiaQwrFm
Experts say that Covid-19-related illnesses this winter could be worse than ever.
The toxic Covid-19 “vaccines” greatly reduce your immunity, making you susceptible to all forms of illness – bacterial, viral, and rapid “turbo” cancers – which are exploding.
I warned you on 21Mar2020 and 8Jan2021. See my https://correctpredictions.ca/
WHAT INTELLIGENT PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THE COVID-19 NARRATIVE:
Masks did harm and little if any good.
The Covid-19 lockdown was a huge, unjustified, costly error that never should have happened.
Worst of all, the Covid-19 vaccines are toxic and have already killed more people than the virus.
Proof: Read the second half of my paper at https://CorrectPredictions.ca/
More proof:
COVID-19: HOW THE GREATEST CRIME IN HISTORY UNFOLDED
https://peckford42.wordpress.com/2022/10/30/covid-19-how-the-greatest-crime-in-history-unfolded/
28th October 2022 By Dr. Vernon Coleman
Video: https://vernoncoleman.org/videos/coronavirus-hoax-century
Epilogue:
How is it that almost every country in the world made the same incredibly stupid and destructive errors – because it was the Plan! You are being culled, good people, and most of you are incapable of believing that.
Bon voyage!
Regrets, Allan MacRae
John Podesta updates:
https://www.state.gov/u-s-delegation-to-the-2022-un-climate-conference-cop27/
https://www.eenews.net/articles/podesta-irs-get-to-work-on-climate-laws-tax-incentives/