Ten Causes of Warming: The Layperson’s Checklist

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Guest post by Jim Steele

What’s Natural?

All temperatures are not created equally. Rising temperatures have many causes. Good science demands we explore alternative hypotheses before reaching any conclusions. Below is a list of common causes of warming trends and heat events that everyone should consider in addition to any possible increased greenhouse effect.

1. Heat trapping surfaces: Asphalt and cement not only heat up much faster than natural habitat during the day, those materials hold the heat longer, increasing temperatures at weather stations situated near buildings and near asphalt. More asphalt, more warming, more record temperatures.

2. Loss of Vegetation: During the summer the temperature of a dry dirt road can be 60°F higher at noon, than ground shaded by trees. That’s why our pets instinctively seek the shade. Plants also bring moisture from below the ground that cools the air by evaporative cooling. Increasing deforestation or lost vegetation due to landscape changes cause regional warming trends.

3. Transport of heat: Natural climate oscillations alter air and ocean circulation patterns that can drive more heat from the tropics towards the poles. Europe’s recent heat wave was largely caused by air heated over the baking Sahara Desert and then driven into Europe. Similarly, the latest research finds variations in Arctic sea ice has been dominated by transport of warm Atlantic water heated in the tropics and transported northward via the Gulf Stream.

4. Less cloud cover: Recent research suggests a trend of less cloud cover resulted in increased solar heating of land and oceans. The added solar energy normally reflected by clouds was 2 times greater than what’s believed to be added by increasing carbon dioxide. Two decades of declining cloud cover was similarly shown to cause Greenland’s rapid ice melt between 1995 and 2012.

5. Less Cooling: Windy conditions cool the oceans. The unusually warm ocean conditions that occurred in the northwestern Pacific Ocean, known as the Blob, were caused by decreased winds that reduced normal cooling.

6. Suppressed Convection: Surface temperatures are cooled by rising convection currents that carry away the heat. Roll up the windows of your car and immediately the temperature rises simply because convection is prevented. Suppressed convection is the reason temperatures are warmer inside agricultural greenhouses. Weather-people predict a heat wave when they see a looming dome of high pressure that will suppress cooling convection.

7. Drier conditions: It takes 5 times more energy to heat water 1 degree than it does to heat sand. Furthermore, it takes 500 times more energy to evaporate water than it does to raise water one degree. Without evaporation to consume the heat, most extreme temperature events are associated with dry conditions. The trend in lost wetlands increases temperatures.

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8. Ventilating stored heat: Oceanographers from Harvard and MIT have suggested heat stored in the deep oceans thousands of years ago, when temperatures were warmer than today, is still ventilating. Likewise, El Niños ventilate previously stored heat. Similarly, Arctic temperatures rose after a change in wind direction blew thick insulating ice out of the Arctic allowing subsurface heat to ventilate.

9. Descending winds: For every 1000 feet of elevation that an air mass descends, its temperature rises over 5°F. California’s hot Santa Anna and Diablo winds can raise downslope temperatures 25°F in a matter of minutes. Descending air in a high-pressure dome suppresses convection causing heat waves. Despite temperatures far below freezing, bouts of descending winds from Antarctic’s peaks rapidly heat the ice and generate melt ponds.

10. Misleading Averaging: The average temperature is calculated by adding the maximum and minimum daily temperatures and dividing by 2. Due to heat trapping surfaces, higher minimum temperatures cause the average temperature to rise even when maximum temperatures have not increased or sometimes cooled.

Good stewards of the environment should never mindlessly blame rising CO2 concentrations for a heat wave or a warming trend unless all the other warming dynamics are considered. Restoring a wetland or planting trees might be the best option to lower regional temperatures.

Jim Steele is director emeritus of the Sierra Nevada Field Campus, SFSU and authored Landscapes and Cycles: An Environmentalist’s Journey to Climate Skepticism. He writes regular column for Battle Born Media newspapers — the Pacifica Tribune, the Novato Advance, the Sausalito Marin Scope, the Mill Valley Herald, the Twin Cities (Larkspur and Corte Madera) Times, the San Rafael News Pointer and the Ross Valley Herald.

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August 8, 2019 4:16 pm

As Richard, August 8thy says .

We don’t want hard to understand “”Facts”” Keep it simple stupid””

Its that dreadful stuff CO2, don’t try to confuse me with science.

MJE VK5ELL

Tommyv
August 8, 2019 4:42 pm

It sounds so dramatic “in recorded history”. Just how long is recorded history? The modern thermometer was invented in 1714. Global records are still pretty sketchy over most of the world ( if we are talking ground level measurements).

August 8, 2019 4:43 pm

Kinda sorta off topic, but does any one know how the NOAA GHNC Daily data set can have the TAVG for July, but not TMAX and TMIN?

jake
August 8, 2019 6:34 pm

Some comments mix the term heat and temperature. There is a difference. While an asphalt surface gets hot (temperature) it does not mean it has a lot of heat. A grassy meadow may feel cool by comparison, but it contains far more heat. Vulture can “hover” over meadows endlessly but drop like a rock above paved “hot” surface in the same general area.

Reply to  jake
August 8, 2019 7:12 pm

Is this “make up stuff and post it on WUWT day”?
This comment is simply idiotic.

August 8, 2019 8:00 pm

“Are we really warming?” is a very good question. Looking at the “global average”, it’s obvious that we are warming — but it seems to be a bit difficult to find where placesare actually warming.

Take France: a raging July heat wave and the highest temperature ever recorded. If you look at NOAAs temperatures for the month, there’s nothing that stands out.

According to NOAA, the GCOS Surface Network (GSN) is “a baseline network comprising a subset of about 1000 stations chosen mainly to give a fairly uniform spatial coverage from places where there is a good length and quality of data record.”

There are six GSN stations inside France, marked on the Google Maps snapshot below:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1exdMKYNUVmKap75J64jVirbqKTTGrWlD/view

The distribution is a bit biased toward the South of France, but the other three are distributed across the North, so surely in so hot a month as July, those Saharan temps will be well-represented in the record.

I started working on the charts using the TMAX data, but I saw that NOAA wasn’t providing the July daily TMAX and TMIN, but only TAVG. I wondered how TAVG could be calculated without TMAX and TMIN, but I’m sure NOAA has its reasons and we’ll see the TMAX and TMIN in due time.

Below are charts of the monthly anomalies for each French GSN station, baselined against the 1981-2010 average. All but one are plotted with a vertical range of +/- 10.0 deg, except for one at +/- 5.0.

If there’s a global warming crisis, or even an especially hot July in that data, it’s hiding better than the extra heat in the deep ocean.

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Reply to  James Schrumpf
August 8, 2019 8:31 pm

Looks like I got 7650 pasted in there twice. Here’s the correct image for 7560:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1n4TTgWMQox3fDPLSrGoAgAxAPyPp-eaf

Apologies.

RoHa
August 8, 2019 11:37 pm

“All temperatures are not created equally.”

I’m not sure that this is true. I suspect that some temperatures are created equally.

However, I am pretty sure that not all temperatures are created equally.

August 9, 2019 1:03 am

I saw some fair comments on my mentioning the situation in Las Vegas. Most certainly there is some UHI effect there which would have contributed to 5K rise in Tmin. But not all of it? Both people named Mark seem to understand what is happening. Here is my checklist on the two main causes for the warming:
Looking at the speed of warming of a good balanced sample of weather stations from all over the world, I was amazed to always find a high correlation for a curve for the acceleration / deceleration of warming during the last 40 years or so, i.e ca. half of the last GB cycle.
https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:42f86fb5-bd3a-4bce-a1d2-2e33fe3fa66b
(investigation done in 2015, includes all results from 2014.)
But even putting that aside – some commenters found this procedure of mine of looking at varying speeds from different time periods somewhat dubious and I am looking at this again – therefore let us just look at my global results for MEANS for the longest time:
SH = 0.0017K/annum
NH= 0.0234K/annum
Giving me a global average of 0.012K /annum.
The latter result correlates strongly with the observed warming of 0.012K/annum or 0.12K/decade by the satellites and the ocean temperatures….amazing is it not?

You will understand that my results beg the question: How can this be? If there were any man made warming due to a change in green house gasses it must be – more or less – the same everywhere we measure?
{the result in Arctic’s Svalbard is +4K]
IMHO one good explanation for my observations could be a change in earth’s inner core which re-aligned with that of the sun – a magnetic stirrer effect? Hence the change in position of the magnetic north pole which seems to have accelerated in the past 100 years or so. So in the NH there is a change in the heat from the bottom up. OTOH, most land of earth is situated in the NH. Another explanation for the warming in the NH could be the greening of earth, which seems to trap heat.
I mean everybody wants trees, lawns and crops….

Doug Huffman
August 9, 2019 4:21 am

10. Misleading Averaging is my favorite bugaboo. It should be time weighted. It must be noted to be microscopic only to the precise location source of the data.

aleks
Reply to  Doug Huffman
August 9, 2019 7:59 am

Of course, averaging is misleading. The problem is that those who use statistics to calculate average temperatures, including the “global average temperature”, usually neglect the basic rule of statistics: any average value has an error.
For example, for one by chance selected day in New York (Tmax + Tmin)/2 = 61.5 F, and Tavg calculated from hourly data is 61.1 (standard deviation is 3.7). The standard deviations are much larger when the average daily temperatures are averaged to find the average monthly temperature, as well as when calculating the average annual temperature in a given place. When the average global temperature is calculated, additional problems arise related to the uneven distribution of weather stations.
We can say that all arguments that use the average temperature, rest on a very unsteady foundation.

Reply to  aleks
August 9, 2019 12:17 pm

In this case, wouldn’t you really be talking about uncertainty, rather than error? I think they get used interchangeably a lot, but I also think that they aren’t so, really. In this scenario, “error” would be measurement or instrument error, while “uncertainty” would mean “How close to the true mean is that calculation, anyway?”

The standard error, or error in the mean, for a TAVG calculation using (TMAX+TMIN)/2 might be 2.2. That doesn’t mean that the TAVG of 61.1F is within 2.2 of the true mean for the day; it means that if you had taken a TMAX and TMIN with another thermometer and calculated TAVG from that, it would have a 70% probability of being within 2.2 F of the first TAVG.

If TMAX and TMIN had been taken by 10 thermometers that day, and TAVG was still 61.1 and the standard deviation was still 3.7, the standard error would be 3.7/sqrt(10) = 1.2 F.

As explained by a “measurement and uncertainty” physics department web page at the Southeastern Louisiana University, calculating the error in the mean means “You can be reasonably sure (about 70% sure) that if you do the entire experiment again with the same number of repetitions, the average value from the new experiment will be less than one standard error away from the average value from this experiment.”

I believe that does not mean that the TAVG you get is that close to the “true” TAVG; I believe it means that your calculated TAVG is that close to the “true” TAVG as measured by those thermometers. If they all had a systemic error of 1 F, you wouldn’t be very close to the actual TAVG, but if they were consistent, you’d be within one SE of the TMEAN as calculated using those thermometers.

Is that a correct interpretation for this case?

August 9, 2019 8:02 am

The article missed the “elephant-in-the-room-that-nobody-talks-about”: waste heat from mankind’s use of energy around the globe.

This is perhaps the only INDISPUTABLE anthropomorphic cause of global warming.

Reply to  Gordon Dressler
August 9, 2019 9:29 am

Gordon
the “elephant-in-the-room-that-nobody-talks-about”:

is that not the one that causes all the sweat on your face when you go down in a [gold] mine here for 1 km or so?

Robert of Texas
August 9, 2019 11:17 am

I think everyone that reads comments here agrees with the statement “The climate is changing”. I think everyone agrees with “The climate is rarely if ever stable for long periods of time” (there appear to be some exceptions, but I expect had we been measuring then we would have still seen small constant changes).

The question is “Why does the climate change?”. The AGW crowd have discovered their Holy Grail (CO2) and have moved on to controlling nature through sacrifice. I however am still curious as to exactly what controls the climate. It is easy to say heat transport warms up the Arctic, but why did the heat transport suddenly change? Or cloud cover has been reduced…but why?

It is the “why” that keeps this topic fascinating. Man-made warming from building and land-use change are rather obvious (except to the AGW worshipers). Soot on glaciers – obvious.

Not so obvious is why does cloud cover change? (Solar activity? Earth’s magnetic field? Completely random or chaotic behavior?) Why did ocean heat transport change? (Cycles? Chaotic behavior?)

It is a shame that many (maybe most) people have just given up on the why and moved on to either “I don’t care, its too hard to think about” or “CO2 is magic”. I think climate change is one of the most fascinating problems in modern history (to explain, not to control).

Reply to  Robert of Texas
August 9, 2019 12:28 pm

On the Outer Banks of North Carolina, where the famous Hatteras Light lives, the island makes a sudden right turn leaving a nose of a sand spit called Cape Point sticking out into the North Atlantic. In 2017, for reasons still not completely explained, a sand bar began forming off the Point, and grew until Shelly Island, as it became known, was a rather large island off the Point.

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By February 2018, Shelly Island was mostly gone:

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The cause of its disappearance is more straightforward, as erosion is a constant in the Outer Banks. However, the reasons for its appearance are highly speculative, and amount to “weather conditions were just right in 2017.”

Maybe the weather is “just right”, right now, for the climate to change. A little.

Reply to  Robert of Texas
August 9, 2019 12:55 pm

No. If you cut away the trees it is going to get cooler in the night. The effect is so pronounced that it might effect average T. An increase in vegetation traps heat. Photosynthesis. Stores heat. But you need moisture for that as well. Somebody is watering the gardens and crops.
Now there is your man made warming.
Somebody must stop that…

Reply to  henryp
August 9, 2019 8:22 pm

Henry I have measured microclimates for many years. Cut the trees and the bare grounds warms much more than normal and the ground holds the heat 10F higher than ambient air

Sattlite data, as studies I linked to in the article, show lands vegetated by trees are far cooler than habitat without
!

Reply to  Jim Steele
August 10, 2019 12:28 am

Sorry, Jim.
Here we disagree. It is important for me because I think it is one of the most important factors causing man made warming….More vegetation traps heat. That explains my results where I find Tmin is rising in the NH. In the SH Tmin is going down.
Here is the conclusion of the report that Alan M referred to and confirms my own results:
‘Our results indicate that the central San Joaquin Valley has
experienced a significant rise of minimum temperatures
(3°C in JJA and SON), a rise that is not detectable in
the adjacent Sierra Nevada. Our working hypothesis is
that the rapid valley warming is caused by the massive
growth in irrigated agriculture. Such human engineering of the environment has changed a high-albedo desert into a darker, moister, vegetated plain, thus altering
the surface energy balance in a way we suggest has
created the results found in this study. Additionally, if
these results are confirmed, the lack of long-term
warming in the generally undeveloped Sierra Nevada
(annual mean trend, 1910–2003, 0.02° 0.1°C decade–1
) coupled with significant, nighttime-only warming in the valley, suggests a regional inconsistency compared with twentieth-century simulations of climate
forced by human influences other than land use changes.
etc

Reply to  HenryP
August 10, 2019 4:06 am

Sorry Henry,
You are projecting a rise in minimum temp that occurred when a desert was irrigated and transformed into a moist and lushly vegetated agricultural area, to mean that more vegetation means hotter and less vegetation means cooler?
This is downright inane.
Everyone knows that deserts are cold at night due to lack of humidity. Water, whether in the air or in the soil strongly buffers temperature.
Almost as a rule, air will only cool to the dew point at night. Raise the dewpoint, and it will not get as cold.
Limewise, by day humid air has a far higher specific heat, so it takes far more energy to warm it. Plus, moist ground with vegetation cools the surface by evapotranspiration.
This situation cannot be generalized to conclude that the effect is due to the change in vegetative cover, and hence less plants and trees will mean the area will be cooler.
You just do not know what you are talking about, and seemed to have have confused a poorly supported hypothesis with a law of nature or a general fact.
Science is the process where ideas are put to a specific sort of testing method, but you want to not only oversimplify an interaction with many factors, but skip the testing part of the process altogether.
Jim is telling you he has specific data that falsified your idea.
But even the reference you cite says that the increased temp is at night only, and lists the irrigation as the primary reason for the changes in San Joaquin Valley.
Chopping down trees in a humid area will not make it into a desert, the same way irritating a desert will make it not a desert anymore.
It is pretty amazing you can argue that a forest area will get cooler when you cut down the trees, because irritating a desert keeps it from getting as cold at night.
How much time have you spent outside verifying this outlandish notion?

August 10, 2019 12:29 am

Sorry, Jim.
Here we disagree. It is important for me because I think it is one of the most important factors causing man made warming….More vegetation traps heat. That explains my results where I find Tmin is rising in the NH. In the SH Tmin is going down.
Here is the conclusion of the report that Alan M referred to and confirms my own results:
‘Our results indicate that the central San Joaquin Valley has
experienced a significant rise of minimum temperatures
(3°C in JJA and SON), a rise that is not detectable in
the adjacent Sierra Nevada. Our working hypothesis is
that the rapid valley warming is caused by the massive
growth in irrigated agriculture. Such human engineering of the environment has changed a high-albedo desert into a darker, moister, vegetated plain, thus altering
the surface energy balance in a way we suggest has
created the results found in this study. Additionally, if
these results are confirmed, the lack of long-term
warming in the generally undeveloped Sierra Nevada
(annual mean trend, 1910–2003, 0.02° 0.1°C decade–1
) coupled with significant, nighttime-only warming in the valley, suggests a regional inconsistency compared with twentieth-century simulations of climate
forced by human influences other than land use changes.
etc

IanD
Reply to  HenryP
August 10, 2019 3:41 am

Vegetation is strongly reflective in the near infra-red region of the spectrum. This would imply that deforestation and urbanisation are two major factors in daytime heating of the Earth’s surface, since plants are better reflectors of incoming solar radiation than most man-made construction materials.
Drying of the air would be a secondary effect of removing plant life; drying will lead to lower night-time temperatures since water vapour is certainly strongly IR absorbing, particularly at longer wavelengths. This would be a local effect and of course crop irrigation will enhance that too.

Reply to  IanD
August 10, 2019 7:25 am

IanD says

Vegetation is strongly reflective in the near infra-red region of the spectrum. This would imply that deforestation and urbanisation are two major factors in daytime heating of the Earth’s surface,

Henry says

Never mind the IR, its energy is nothing compared to incoming UV.
It is UV being used [and sequestered] in photosynthesis? Don’t you get it? My results are showing that warming is happening where they change a desert into an oasis and that cooling is happening where they cut all the trees. I cannot change my results because you guys want that or believe that?

Nicholas
Here is the report that Alan D. MacIntire mentioned that confirmed my results.
https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/JCLI3627.1

Study it. Indeed, I cannot help you much further. You have to do it yourself. I am a retired chemist/ statistician; I have no means to do further investigations?

Reply to  HenryP
August 11, 2019 12:24 pm

I appreciate your inability to help me, so please allow me to try and help you.
I do not dispute the data or the conclusion regarding the central valley in CA.
I am trying to be very emphatic about that.
It is the generalization from that result to a broader conclusion about the effect of vegetation in other climactic and ecological circumstances where you are going astray.
Water is the great moderator of the surface and the atmosphere.
Adding water to the air where it is extremely dry will not have the same effect as adding the same amount where there is already plenty of moisture in the air and in the ground.
Likewise, vegetating a desert will not have a simple inverse effect as chopping down a forest.
Forests generally exist where there is at least a certain amount of water, typically that for at least some of the year, there is more rainfall than can evaporate and/or transpire. In physically geography, which is one of the areas I have studied intensively, this referred to as a place where precipitation exceeds potential evapotranspiration (PET). The equivalence line for this relationship is broadly defined as the transition line from humid to arid climate and zones.
Of course, there are areas where it is humid for part of the year and arid for another part.
Deserts are places that are arid in every month of the year, climatologically speaking.
These are definitions, and are based on what is actually seen and measured.

Because climates vary from place to place, making a similar sort of land use change in one area may have a drastically different effect than the same change in another area with a different climate regime.
Additionally, making a change in one small area, like clearcutting a patch in a forest or irrigating a small island in the middle of a desert, may and likely does have a different effect than making the same change over a far wider area.
And as well, the short term effect may not be the same as the medium and longer term results.
Having an oasis spring up in the Sahara desert will not cause more rain in the desert, but irrigating the whole desert and planting trees over it all certainly would.
Once established by a rainy climactic period, a forest in what once was a desert region can become self sustaining to at least some degree, even after the amount of rain begins to decline again.
Periodically burning zones that were once forested and are transition zones between humid to arid climates has produced savannahs in various large regions of the world. A savannah being a place where the tree cover does not form a closed canopy and sunlight can reach the ground, allowing for an understory of flora, typically but not necessarily grasses.

The moderating effect of water on the climate regimes of a particular place means that where water makes one place cooler, the same body of water or amount of rainfall will make another place warmer. This moderating effect may be mostly in one part of the diurnal cycle, or the whole of it. It might cool daytime and warm nighttime. It may produce a different change in one season than in another. In fact, we can find places in the world where each of these things is true, measurably and verifiably.
Finding specific examples is easy.
But one must be open to the full range of factors that influence the Earth, and the full diversity of landforms and climate zones.
Overgeneralizing will often lead one from a valid observation to an incorrect conclusion, and not only regarding matters of climate related issues.
Complicated things cannot be described by simplistic generalizations…not if one is interested in being correct in a broad sense.
One such oversimplification and the result of too many people accepting that one factor is so predictable and controlling in it’s effect is exactly why we have the CAGW imbroglio, which threatens our very ability to maintain an industrial society.
Getting it wrong a different way will not help.
I also have a chemistry degree, but I studied the whole range of scientific disciplines during by time at a university, and also did so long before I got there and long after I left.
I have done all sorts of different things in my life, and many of them involved being outside all day, and many times all night as well, in all sorts of different places and making all sorts of real world observations.
It is very easy to understand that the world is a big place with all sorts of things going on, all sorts of wildly different conditions that change from place to place and time to time in all sorts of ways, some common and some quite unusual.
I took an interdisciplinary approach to life and to my education and to the work I have done because I recognized that, although we subdivide the world and sciences and fields of discipline in all sort of ways in various categories, these are not analogous to the natural world, where everything is happening at once and all factors interact in many ways.
Some who knows everything there is to know about physics, but nothing else, or a person who knows everything about the flora and fauna of the planet, but nothing else, will both have different ideas about how they think the Earth behaves, but neither will ever likely be correct.
Because there is no way to understand a complex system by focusing on and giving too much weight to one factor, while ignoring other ones.

The moderating effects of water and water vapor are a critical part of understanding our planet and the living things that inhabit our planet.
Water in any of it’s three phases can and does cool, and can and does warm, depending on where and when and in what amount the ice, snow, water vapor, clouds, rain, lake, ocean, or river exist.

Snow across a wide extent of the US early in the winter, that persists for an extended period of time, will have the effect of making areas that are snow covered, as well as adjacent areas, colder for the whole season. But snow in one particular place, as opposed to no snow cover, will insulate the ground and lessen the depth to which the ground will freeze in Winter.
A bout of heavy rain in the middle of Winter can melt a huge extent of snow cover, and cause the nights to become less cold, but also the ground to become colder and freeze deeper than if the rain had not melted the snow.

Having an ocean nearby makes nearly anyplace, but not everyplace, on Earth be generally cooler by day in Summer, but warmer by day in Winter. But not if it freezes over.
Being near an ocean moderates temperatures, tending to make them less extreme than areas just inland. Right along the coastline the effect is strongest.
Being next to an ocean makes San Francisco far cooler than the areas a few tens of miles inland, but here in Florida, being on the south side of a lake will prevent many winter frosts and freezes and be the difference between a rich citrus farmer and the bankrupt one who bought and planted a mile north of the lake.
Philadelphia and Southern New Jersey get a small fraction of the snow than areas just a few more miles inland get. Part of the difference is due to elevation, but a large part of it is due to the marine influence.

Similar examples can be given for places that have a different climate regime due to the difference in humidity levels of the air, which directly effects what the temperature regime will be and what the dominant vegetation is.
So whatever one can say, and that is true, about the effect of irrigating and planting crops in the central valley of CA, becomes false when extrapolated to infer a general rule which is valid for the planet as a whole.
It is an extreme place, and the main reason why is the widely varying and typically insufficient amounts of moisture available, so adding more on a continuous and ongoing basis makes the place less extreme.
Irrigating a place in Illinois which is having a once in five or ten years drought will not have the same effect on the long term average temperature of the region.
Cutting down a forest in the Cascadia region of Washington state will not make it cooler due to the removal of “heat trapping” coverage by tall trees. It will get hotter at the level that temp is measured on every day that is sunny. Forests, plants in general, gather solar energy and transpire water. Tall trees also block outgoing IR from the ground by dint of the foliage cover.
So the ground level in a forest is shaded by day and thus cooler. The air above the forest is cooled by transpiration from the unbroken canopy of trees. Removing the trees will make it hotter in the day and probably cooler at night. The relative amount of each effect will vary depending on the length of the day vs night, cloud cover (on a cloudy day or night, it will be less different below the canopy than above it compared to sunny days or nights), and how much rain has fallen…how wet everything is.

Here in Florida, under a native live oak tree the daytimes are cooler by many degrees.
But the nights are warmer than a place two feet outside of the canopy of the trees. The effect is strong enough to make it easy to grow certain tropical plants under the oak trees in dappled sun, but impossible for them to survive year to year only a few feet away.
I have had entire crops lots, utterly destroyed, to frost in a single period of a few hours on one night of the year, and at the same time had a bunch of the same plants completely undamaged that were right next to them but under the canopy of a single oak tree. That was due to the inability of frost to form where radiative cooling is blocked, but the temp is above freezing (frost forms at 38°F under clear sky with no wind). A row of Ficus benjamina planted as a hedge was killed in a hard freeze (frost will cause defoliation by not kill wood on this species), right down to ground level, the same night as the space shuttle crashed due to the cold (our nursery was 17°F that night, measured out in the open, and is located 103 three miles nearly due West of the Cape)but the sections of the row beneath an oak tree were undamaged.

Consider this: What happens to the CA central valley if all irrigation were to cease, vs what will happen to the clear cut area in Cascadia, if the prevailing conditions are left to do what they will.
That desert will quickly become a desert again, because the row crops and nut and fruit trees will quickly dry up and die. The temperature regime will return to whatever it was prior to the interventions of people. Only the moisture is keeping it the way it is.
In Cascadia, the trees will grow back, faster or more gradually depending on several factors, it within a few decades it will be rapidly returning to exactly as it was. The climate will not have changed. Cascadia will remain a moist and mostly coolish place, and the San Joaquin valley will remain a desert. Just look how fast farmers lost trees that were decades old when their water allocations were cut.

In more marginal places, making drastic changes to the local flora can have longstanding results however, as when forested areas were converted to savannah by periodic burning by people, or when adding one one-hundredth of one percent more of CO2 is causing vast cumulative areas to spontaneously increase aerial plant coverage all over the world, including places like the Sahel zone in Africa.
And much of the rain that falls on continental areas comes from water vapor that was transpired by trees on the continent and often in that same area, so adding or removing large areas of vegetation can have wider and longer term climate effects. This same fact is why drought often begets more drought. Although since nearly every drought ends in a flood (it takes a flood to erase a long term drought), obviously other factors eventually overwhelm this local one.

Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
August 11, 2019 1:45 pm

Nicholas
Interesting comment. I’ll give you an answer but not now. It is bedtime here. Let me get back to you on this tomorrow. Rgrds. H

Reply to  Nicholas McGinley
August 12, 2019 4:14 am

Nicholas,

I hear what you are saying and, indeed, I know there is no subject more difficult than discussing the climate. The length of your arguments says it all. Possibly we have differing opinions because we have different experiences? There was an interesting analogy that I picked up between Las Vegas and Johannesburg. Johannesburg was the only city here [out of the ten that I analysed in South Africa} where I picked up some warming. In the other 9 cities here the temperature actually stayed the same over the past 50 years or so. In the past, Johannesburg is or was actually semi desert or savannah-like. Just like Las Vegas, it has no river. People were simply attracted to LV because of the gambling and to Jhb. because of the gold. Because people streamed to these places, to get in on its business opportunities, water was simply diverted to the cities from elsewhere and hence it was possible to plant trees and lawns and and even plant crops. In both cases, arid and dry land was converted, impressively. The Christy paper [that I only became aware of on this blog post] more or less just confirmed my findings: if you irrigate and cultivate land, you change its properties an subsequently also its climate. It starts with increases in the Tmin.

Similarly, I noticed that where they massively cut down the trees, e.g. Tandil (ARG), Tminus fell quite dramatically, also dragging the average temperature down.

This cannot all be co-incidence? I think I also know why this happens…

August 10, 2019 1:25 am

Sorry, Jim.
Here we disagree. It is important for me because I think it is one of the most important factors causing man made warming….More vegetation traps heat. That explains my results where I find Tmin is rising in the NH. In the SH Tmin is going down.
Here is the conclusion of the report that Alan M referred to and confirms my own results:
‘Our results indicate that the central San Joaquin Valley has
experienced a significant rise of minimum temperatures
(3°C in JJA and SON), a rise that is not detectable in
the adjacent Sierra Nevada. Our working hypothesis is
that the rapid valley warming is caused by the massive
growth in irrigated agriculture. Such human engineering of the environment has changed a high-albedo desert into a darker, moister, vegetated plain, thus altering
the surface energy balance in a way we suggest has
created the results found in this study. Additionally, if
these results are confirmed, the lack of long-term
warming in the generally undeveloped Sierra Nevada
(annual mean trend, 1910–2003, 0.02° 0.1°C decade–1
) coupled with significant, nighttime-only warming in the valley, suggests a regional inconsistency compared with twentieth-century simulations of climate
forced by human influences other than land use changes.
etc

August 10, 2019 2:40 am

I wonder what happened to my last comment here?

Reply to  HenryP
August 10, 2019 3:14 am

Ok. Thx. Fixed now. Maybe you can erase the extra comment.

August 10, 2019 5:16 am

Nicholas says

It is simply inane to think that forests are warmer than the same area would be if it was denuded to bare ground.

Henry said/says

you and Jim are simply wrong on this assertion. In Tandil, where they chopped the trees, Tmin and Tmean fell by more than 2K over the past 40 years or so
I cannot tell you by exactly what process this is so, but the results do not lie.

Anyway, why react to on an older comment when the newer comment is here;

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/08/08/ten-causes-of-warming-the-laypersons-checklist/#comment-2766871

I must say that I am somewhat puzzled as I cannot find the report anymore that Alan M mentioned but I do remember from reading the report that Christie and them were also puzzled and could not yet figure out a precise reason for their findings….

August 10, 2019 5:21 am

D. MacIntire

Can you just quote the report again that saw an increase in Tmin due to cultivation [in California]

I cannot find your comment on that here anymore.

August 10, 2019 8:24 am
August 10, 2019 9:12 am

Heny you are conflating vegetation dynamics and moisture dynamics

The Christy paper concluded that the data supported his 3rd hypothesis which read:

“Enhanced nighttime sensible heat flux from the surface due to the increased heat capacity of the vegetation
and moist soil, both of which more readily absorb and store solar energy due to lower albedo,
relative to the original desert surface, and a larger heat storage capacity due to existing water mass.”

I agree that the increased heat capacity of moist soil will allow minimum temperatures to stay warmer. But the effect of vegetation and albedo is debatable.

I have unpublished data where I measured surface temperatures during the afternoon and then a dawn Bare ground held the temperature 10F above vegetated areas. I measure the surface of the vegetation and it is cooler than dirt roads and asphalt. As you argue, the data does not lie.

Satellite data published in Mildrexler papers, one of which is linked to in the article above, clearly shows surface temperatures are cooler in a forest but increases over grass and scrublands to hottest temperatures over bare ground and deserts.

Regional analyses of desert lands that are artificially vegetated, could cause minimum temperatures to rise relative to the desert but again I think that is more a function if increased water vapor that would slow the nighttime cooling. But that dynamic doesn’t mean that conversely if you denude a forest surface temperatures will cool. IN addition added vegetation to a desert landscape likely adds a daytime cooling effect

Reply to  Jim Steele
August 10, 2019 9:29 am

Jim. You say: But the effect of vegetation and albedo is debatable.

There is no debate here. I am too old for that. The amount of UV coming in, is many times more important than the outgoing IR. It varies, as it depends on the amount of the most energetic particles being released from the sun, which in its turn depends on the sun’s magnetic force fields. The amount of UV that does come through the atmosphere has two options:
1) it changes water into vapor (oceans)
2) it changes CO2 into sugars

In both cases, the earth is warming….there is no other way?

Reply to  HenryP
August 11, 2019 6:51 pm

UV at the surface is a nearly insignificant part of photosynthesis.
It is less than 2% of incoming light at sea level, although when the Sun is at zenith it is as much as 3% of incoming solar radiation.
The weighting factor of UV absorption and utilization for photosynthesis falls to zero in the near UV at around 350nm.
Although in space, UV comprises ~10% of the Sun’s EM output, the vast majority of the incoming solar radiation that makes it to the surface is in the visible and IR portions of the UV spectrum.
Visible is generally considered to be from 400-to 700 nm, and is about 44% of ISR.
Although some people can reportedly see near UV between 310 and 400 nm.
Plants and people utilize the radiation that has energy squarely in the visible spectrum, with a little bit of biologically useful light in the UV and IR bands.

This is exactly why it is what we can see, and what plants have evolved to use…it is where the most energy is, so it is the most useful for vision and the most propitious for capturing energy.
The Sun does vary in the output of UV, but mostly in the bands that are absorbed by matter in the thermosphere high above the surface.
Generally speaking, UV is ionizing radiation at the more energetic end of the UV part of the EM spectrum, meaning it has a net destructive effect on living things and complex molecules in general.
Example: One photon in the far UV spectrum has enough energy to eject an electron from an atom or a molecule, and while so doing impart enough energy to make that ejected electron a beta particle, which can in turn ionize many other nearby atoms.
Visible light, not.

Reply to  Jim Steele
August 11, 2019 7:32 pm

Looking over the paper by Christy et al, I had several thoughts regarding things that he does not seem to have taken into account or did not consider important, for whatever reason.
One is that many of the valley temps appeared to be measured in places with significantly increased urbanization. I am not familiar with those places by looking over the list, but certainly having “Downtown Fresno” as one of the places in the valley means that nighttime warming may be due to more than just the fact that there was a lot of irrigation in outlying farm areas.
California had people, a lot of them, in 1903. But was it anything like 100 years later, now that California has more people than many countries, such as Canada?
In 1904 California has about 1.4 million people.
Today Fresno has over 550,000, although many of those came after this study was done.
Just reading about how the study was done, without looking at the whole thing, I surmised that rural stations in irrigated areas were where the measurements were taken. Apparently not.
The pattern of changes broadly matches the changes over the past 100+ years for the US as a whole…not as hot during the day as in years past, and warmer at night overall and specifically in cerain places.
Some places run counter to this trend, but the continental US as a whole has had change in the same direction over the same period.
Also, I am wondering why the mountains were used as a control?
We can see from satellite data that the troposphere often does not show the same temperature trends and relative values, year over year, as surface readings do.
There are plenty of ways mountains are different than a valley, and one of them is that hardly anyone lives up there compared to the valley, so any UHI effects would be far less or entirely absent perhaps.
I would have liked to see the individual counties broken out, as it appears one of them is far less irrigated then the others.
Or compare the change in CA central valley to some other similar climate and landform area than has not been irrigated.
I can imagine several ways it could change, or not change as the case is here, in the mountains while it did change in a low intermontane valley region, regarding wind flow, ocean temps, maybe even CO2 if it does have some small effect, that effect might show up at altitudes. IDK…maybe there is nothing else here but what the paper describes.
But…mountain vs valley.
Urbanization in the largest and fastest growing population in the US.
Overall changes over the entire continent over the same period of time.
And what about the difference in rainfall over that period?
In any case, I do not see how this says anything about other climate zones undergoing changes related only to vegetative cover.
The gist of this is that what was a large desert in summer is now a verdant irrigated growing region.
It does not break out percentage differences in areal foliage cover, nor does it give humidity data, which was most likely available.
I do not like to be critical of work by someone I have great respect for, but that is what we do here and in science in general.
I would be happy to have someone explain or show why the things I mention are not applicable or not confounding to the conclusions reached.
In any case, the actual conclusions were rather mildly stated. I saw no sweeping statements regarding changes to aerial coverage of plants outside of the study areas.
But I only read through it once so far, but I did so slowly and carefully.
Maybe I missed a few things with my continuous partial attention thing going on.

donald penman
August 11, 2019 2:12 am

Heat trapping surfaces at higher latitudes during summer tend not to cool down because there are more hours of day and less hours of night also the intensity of solar radiation increases in summer. Some just want to ignore seasonal changes but exactly the opposite occurs in winter when the shorter days/longer nights don’t warm up the surfaces with the reduced solar intensity. The surface of the Earth has a seasonal minimum which is much lower than the rest of the year at higher latitudes.

Reply to  donald penman
August 11, 2019 12:27 pm

Exactly.
Prevailing conditions prior to a land use or land coverage change, makes the effects of such changes impossible to boil down to a single sentence or a single graph for the world in general.
Numerous factors interact in complex ways to determine what happens when some condition or input is changed.

August 12, 2019 6:11 am

I am thinking somewhat differently about what actually is warming our planet. IMHO, obviously the CO2 and trapping of IR by GH gasses are all red herrings. [ask me more if you do not understand that the re-radiated light from the CO2 cannot possibly heat the oceans?] It is the oceans that are getting warmer and this is also warming the planet, on average.
So I am asking myself: what heats the water? Visible light actually cannot heat water, by much. Water does have absorption in the UV and the IR, so here you will have that type of light being re-radiated and sequestered to heat. In the case of IR, it warms the water a bit, but it does not really bring it to a boiling point? Try it and let me know. It is the UV that hits on the water that immediately brings the top layer of molecules to evaporation. And this is where our weather cycle begins (clouds). So, really, everything in our lives depends on how much UV is getting through the atmosphere….

August 12, 2019 11:47 am

Must say: I don’t remember my biology now. Wonder if somebody here can help me?
It is about photo synthesis.

I know that photosynthesis can be represented using a chemical equation.

6CO2 + 6H2O + UV ——> C6H12O6 + 6O2

Where: CO2 = carbon dioxide
H2O = water
C6H12O6 = glucose
O2 = oxygen

Now, this chemical equation obviously means that more water and more CO2 present will stimulate growth.
Also, everything we eat and drink depends on more CO2. But wasn’t it a fact that there were two half reactions, namely one during the day, which was endothermic (using UV) and one during the night that was exothermic? Is it not during the night that plants are growing?

I cannot find the details of the reactions happening during the day and night in Wikipedia….

Reply to  henryp
August 12, 2019 12:31 pm

UV doesn’t belong in your equation UV is characterized by wavelengths from 10 to 400 nm. Photosynthesis utilizes visible wavelengths over 99% above 400 nm as seen in the spectrum linked below

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I suggest Henry you learn more and until then write less

Reply to  Jim Steele
August 12, 2019 12:44 pm

Jim

As I said. Biology is not my strong point. Thx for setting me straight. But that was not the question I asked….?

August 14, 2019 6:49 am

Just to round it off here:

Well, taking the word of a good Dutch biologist, I found out that in the night our photosynthesis reaction reverses and the (extra) sugars made during the day are used in the reverse reaction for the plant/tree to grow. The effect is apparently so strong that the satellites can pick up increased CO2 above forests during the evening and night…. Indeed, as I suspected, that reverse reaction is exothermic. That largely explains my observations that de-forestation leads to a sharp decline in Tmin whereas increased vegetation and increased forestation leads to a sharp increase of Tmin. I saw the Christie paper for the first time on this blog but it confirmed my observations.

Essentially, IMHO, Jim’s point two of his post is incorrect, as is the study that was linked to it.
Here was my take on it:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/08/08/ten-causes-of-warming-the-laypersons-checklist/#comment-2768401

But, hey, that is my opinion.