via Climate Depot, summary:
- Climate Statistician Dr. Caleb Rossiter: ‘We are trying to save the people of the planet from the people ‘saving the planet.'”
- AOC “seemed to recognize that Rossiter’s presence, and incendiary claims, had become central to a hearing that was not supposed to be about coal.”
- Rossiter to Congress: “Extreme weather events such as cyclones, floods, droughts and tornadoes are not increasing in incidence or lives lost. Indeed, the global mortality from all weather-related natural disasters declined by 99 percent while the population trebled after 1920, thanks to improved economies and technologies. Food production and calorie consumption per capita continue to increase, thanks to the green revolution, increased CO2 fertilization and longer growing seasons. Fossil fuels contribute enormously to the production, safe storage and transport of food and thus to human nutrition.”
By: Marc Morano – Climate Depot
Climate statistician Dr. Caleb Rossiter from the CO2 Coalition hijacked the Democratic Rep. Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez and the Democrats climate hearing on Capitol Hill on April 30. Dr. Rossiter upended the House Oversight Committee Environment subcommittee hearing on “The Public Effects” of climate change when he declared “CO2 emissions have had a positive and modest impact on Americans’ health.” Rep. Ocasio-Cortez saw her message “hijacked” by the skeptical scientist.

Yahoo News reported on May 1 in an article titled “How to hijack a climate change hearing”:
Ocasio-Cortez, who said she did not want to spend her allotted time to question witnesses solely to fact-check Rossiter, did do some of that. “Let’s get it back to the actual subject of this hearing,” she urged, “which is the impact of climate change on human health. We’re not debating whether climate change is real, and we’re not debating any of those attendant effects.” The 29-year-old legislator, who has spent less than six months in Washington, seemed to recognize that Rossiter’s presence, and incendiary claims, had become central to a hearing that was not supposed to be about coal, or its role in the 21st century economy. …
At Tuesday’s hearing, Caleb Rossiter of the CO2 Coalition, an organization whose mission is to highlight the “important contribution made by carbon dioxide to our lives and the economy,” played the role of spoiler. The group was co-founded by William Happer, a physicist who is now leading the Presidential Committee on Climate Security, a newly formed panel that many believe will be used to undermine established science on global warming. The CO2 Coalition is largely funded by conservative foundations, including those of the billionaire Koch and Mercer families. Rossiter was the last of the afternoon’s witnesses, and followed public health experts and medical doctors who described how global warming was not just an ecological disaster but approached epidemic levels in its human costs. Speaking in urgent, distressed tones, they described elevated levels of asthma and obesity, respiratory disease and food poisoning.
But Dr. Rossiter countered with a clear and concise scientific and health message, noting that “So far, CO2 emissions have had a positive and modest impact on Americans’ health” and adding that “weather mortality” has fallen. Rossiter touted development to help with the impacts of natural disasters, explaining “being wealthy saves lives.”
Rossiter, adorned in a bow tie, had an altogether different message. Calling himself a “climate statistician,” he depicted his group as a lone truth-teller in a field otherwise besotted with alarmist predictions. “We save the people of the planet from people who think they are saving the planet,” Rossiter said in his opening statement. He then proceeded to tout the benefits of carbon dioxide, which is emitted when carbon is burned and traps heat in the atmosphere, contributing to global warming.
“So far, CO2 emissions have had a positive and modest impact on Americans’ health,” Rossiter said. He said “weather mortality” has fallen because most weather-related deaths come during cold spells, which presumably become more rare as the planet warms.
Rossiter proceeded to show a slide of what he said was “a typical rural African dwelling.” The following slide showed a woman in traditional garb (Rossiter did not say which African country the images came from) cooking a meal over an open fire. He argued that fossil fuel-generated electricity was modernizing Africa and leading to better health outcomes.
“Being wealthy saves lives,” he said. [ALso see:Politically Left Scientist Dissents – Calls President Obama ‘delusional’ on global warming]
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Rep. James Comer, who is the committee’s ranking member and represents coal-rich western Kentucky, mused about “the role that coal would play in helping more Americans escape poverty and maintain a higher state of health and well-being.”
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Climate Change, Part II: The Public Health Effects
Environment subcommittee of the House Oversight Committee
Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 – 2:00pm
Location: 2154 Rayburn House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
Climate Change, Part II: The Public Health Effects
Subcommittees: Environment (116th Congress)
Chairman Rouda, Ranking Member Comer, and Members of the Subcommittee:
I am honored to be invited to testify on Climate Change: The Impact on Public Health. From my time on the congressional staff I developed a deep affection for this American institution and a deep appreciation for the difficult job you all do for all of us.
I am a climate statistician and the executive director of the CO2 Coalition, which was founded by Princeton atmospheric physicist and hence climate scientist Will Happer. Professor Happer is now President Trump’s national security director for emerging technologies. As the Subcommittee knows from recent hearings, he advocates a scientific review of claims that fossil-fueled climate change threatens national security.
I represent our 46 members, who are atmospheric physicists, climatologists,
agronomists, geologists, ecologists, statisticians, medical doctors, and energy economists. Our Coalition’s mission is science education. We are trying to save the people of the planet from the people “saving the planet” from what has been – for 30 years — an always predicted but never realized climate catastrophe.
The Coalition published a White Paper on Climate Change and Health last fall. We have provided copies with my testimony, and I hope the Chair will make the electronic pdf we provided part of the record. The principal researchers for the paper were two of our medical doctors and public health specialists, Jan Breslow, professor at Rockefeller University and head of its Laboratory of Biochemical Genetics and Metabolism, and Weston Allen,
First, the decisions Congress makes on whether to restrict fossil fuels and their emissions of carbon dioxide will affect the health not just of Americans but of people all over the world.
So far, CO2 emissions have had a modest, positive impact on public health in the United States: they have increased plant productivity because CO2 is plant food, and reduced mortality because CO2 has contributed to warming. And you have already heard testimony in a previous hearing, the fracking revolution may have averted many deaths here because it has reduced the price of home heating.
But it is in Africa that whether U.S. policy promotes or restricts fossil-fueled
electricity is truly a matter of life and death. Only 25 percent of African homes has electricity. That explains much of why life expectancy in Africa is 20 years lower than in the rest of the world.
Reliable electricity means that Africans don’t have to do their cooking and heating with wood and animal dung. That dramatically reduces lung and heart disease.
Reliable electricity means that water can be purified for safe drinking. That
reduces the largest cause of child mortality.
My second reason for being pleased to testify is that I and the members of the CO2 Coalition were recently the object of an attempt by a member of this Subcommittee to censor us by blocking our public appearances, and to defame us by stating that we “deny established science.” To use the “climate denier” label over technical disputes about immensely complex and uncertain computer models of the combined atmosphere-land-ocean system is to make a shameful comparison to kooks who deny the suffering of the victims of the Holocaust.
As I read through your recent hearings on Climate Change, I saw once again how difficult your jobs are. You were exposed to two contradictory views of climate science. First, former Senators Kerry and Hagel saw CO2 emissions behind everything from the sinking land at a naval base to wildfires and hurricanes.
Similarly, Jeffrey Sachs of Columbia said: “The U.S. and the planet are buffeted by extraordinary heat waves, droughts, floods, forest fires, and extreme storms.”
Second, Nicolas Loris of the Heritage Foundation testified, as Roger Pielke Jr. did before the Science Committee in 2017, that UN IPCC and U.S. government data show that rates of sea-level rise and extreme weather were the same during the half-degree of early 20th century warming, which was almost entirely natural, as during the half-degree warming since 1980, at least half of which the IPCC says was due to industrial CO2.
What is the subcommittee to make of this dispute? I think that the answer was actually provided in statements by the Chairman and Senator Hagel.
Chairman Rouda noted that in 1992, the United States and 154 nations agreed that warming will occur from CO2 and that it “may adversely affect natural systems and humankind.” The CO2 Coalition are in complete agreement with that statement, as a scientific fact. Then Senator Hagel testified that: “Scientists reduced uncertainty about climate change over the last two decades.” And we agree with that too.
That’s because we look at the actual data that scientists have collected during this period. Science is fundamentally the testing of hypotheses with data. The data are what country singer Porter Wagoner calls, “the cold, hard facts of life.” And the cold, hard fact is that the “may” in the 1992 agreement remains possible, but has not yet occurred.
Using the IPCC’s own words and data, Professor Pielke and Professor Judith Curry have shown that decadal rates of drought, storms, flooding, hurricanes, cyclones, tornadoes, and the rate of sea-level rise have not registered any statistically significant change during the recent period of warming that was partially induced by CO2.
Here are the quotations and their sources:
IPCC AR5 (2014): “It is very likely that the mean rate of global averaged sea level rise was 1.7 (1.5 to 1.9) mm/year between 1901 and 2010…and 3.2 (2.8 to 3.6) mm/year between 1993 and 2010. It is likely that similarly high rates occurred between 1920 and 1950.” (Curry Sea-level paper,
https://curryja.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/special-report-sea-level-rise3.pdf)
IPCC AR5 (2014): There is not enough evidence to support medium or high
confidence of attribution of increasing trends to anthropogenic forcings as a result of observational uncertainties and variable results from region to region…we conclude consistent with SREX that there is low confidence in detection and attribution of changes in drought over global land areas since the mid-20th century.
(Pielke Jr. testimony, https://republicansscience.house.gov/sites/republicans.science.house.gov/files/documents/HHRG115-SY-WState-RPielke-20170329.pdf)
IPCC AR5 (2014): In summary there continues to be a lack of evidence and thus low confidence regarding the sign of trend in the magnitude and/or frequency of floods on a global scale.” Ibid.
IPCC AR5 (2014): Current datasets indicate no significant observed trends in
global cyclone frequency over the past century… No robust trends in annual
numbers of tropical storms, hurricanes, and major hurricanes have been identified in the past 100 years in the North Atlantic basin.” Ibid.
So climate catastrophe may happen, and we need to maintain vigilant scientific inquiry. But it hasn’t happened yet. That, too, is a cold, hard fact.
So now that we have disposed of our current fears, let’s look at the issue of fossil fuels, carbon dioxide, and public health.
Humanity thrived during long periods considerably warmer than now and suffered terribly during cold periods, such as the preindustrial Little Ice Age. In most countries, winters are still much more lethal than summers. Globally, cold weather kills many times more people than hot weather, and modelling indicates that it will continue to do so regardless of greenhouse gas emissions.
Atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2) primarily affects minimum temperatures at night, in winter and high latitudes. This reduces temperature variability, the diurnal temperature range and hence cardiac and COPD mortality, asthma, respiratory infections and even gastroenteritis. Whereas heatwaves have a great effect on the
those about to die, cold spells have more prolonged effects on respiratory,
cardiovascular and stroke mortality.
The relationship between climate and vector-borne disease is complex. Despite global warming from 1900 to 2012, the malaria mortality rate per capita declined 95 percent. The recent upsurge in dengue is due primarily to rapid urbanization and international travel. The reason Chikungunya virus spread rapidly after 2005 was a genomic micro-evolution enabling it to be transmitted by the mosquito, Aedes albopictus, which may be adversely affected by future warming and CO2 fertilization of plants. Warm El Niño events actually reduce the transmission of tick-born encephalitis. Modeling of Lyme disease in the U.S. projects an expansion into Canada and a retreat from the southern states, resulting in an overall reduction
in the exposed population.
Extreme weather events such as cyclones, floods, droughts and tornadoes are not increasing in incidence or lives lost. Indeed, the global mortality from all weatherrelated natural disasters declined by 99 percent while the population trebled after 1920, thanks to improved economies and technologies. Food production and calorie consumption per capita continue to increase, thanks to the green revolution, increased CO2 fertilization and longer growing seasons. Fossil fuels contribute enormously to the production, safe storage and transport of food and thus to human
nutrition. Modeling indicates an inverse relationship between future global water stress and emissions.
Air pollution kills about 7 million people annually, and the major culprit is not fossil fuels, but burning biomass (wood, dung and crop waste). The provision of affordable electricity for cooking and heating of homes in developing countries could save millions of lives annually. Air quality in the developed world has improved greatly since the 1970s, thanks to catalytic converters, scrubbers and precipitators, removing 97 percent of the sulfur dioxide and 99 percent of coal’s fly ash. Coal power in the U.S. is 17 times safer than that in India and China.
Energy costs need to be kept as low as possible, especially in cold climates, so that poor people can afford to keep warm in winter. For every death from heat, there are twenty from cold. Fossil fuels, including clean-coal will continue to have an important role to play in advancing civilization and human health over the 21st century. Our focus should be on conservation and health-promoting activities rather than on CO2 and climate change. Unmitigated warming this century is likely to be less than 1 degree Celsius and thus more beneficial than harmful for humanity and perhaps for the planet.
The latest IPCC Summary for Policymakers states: “The most effective
vulnerability-reducing measures for health in the near term are programs that implement and improve basic public health measures such as provision of clean water and sanitation, secure essential health care including vaccination and child health services, increase capacity for disaster preparedness and response, and alleviate poverty (very high confidence).”
We agree with the IPCC. There’s no denying that we are part of that scientific consensus. But those solutions are not possible without cheap, reliable energy.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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Someone will get a rollicking from Nancy and AOC for letting that man in the room!
The minority party is allowed to call its own witnesses.
I only wish articles like this would avoid the political angle (like the hearing being hijacked from AOC and some of the other overtly political statements/cheering), especially when it makes it sound extremely partisan.
While I agree with the points in the testimony, I’m not going to link those I’m trying to convince of the facts to something they’ll discard as partisan drivel. It just turns them off and gives them an excuse to ignore what is presented. Too much of WUWT presents its articles in the same politically partisan way, which undermines the ability to teach it to those who aren’t already skeptics. It ends up just preaching to the choir.
I only wish articles like this would avoid the political angle
1) It’s a hearing in a political body (the House of Representatives). Have you ever listened to one of those hearings? It’s a political show from opening to closing. There’s no avoiding the political angle
2) CAGW is nothing but political. Consensus? that’s not a scientific term, it’s a political one.
sorry but your concern-trolling fails to consider reality.
JE,
I wouldn’t be using overtly political statements from politicians to try to convince someone the facts aren’t based on politics. That’s the whole point.
The testimony itself is what I’m interested in pointing others to, but the overly political overtones of the narrative surrounding it is what will make it unconvincing to someone who wants to be certain they aren’t getting politicized information, but actual facts.
You are free to politicize the science all you want, but you won’t influence anyone who isn’t already a skeptic. That’s a good way to lose the public opinion battle as far as I’m concerned.
Aliunde, it’s not the skeptics who make CAGW political, it’s the alarmist, going at least all the way back to When Hansen and co shut off the AC and opened the windows before their hearing in congress that they scheduled for the day of the year that records indicated is likely to be the warmest. You can pretend with your concern-trolling that it’s not political all you want, doesn’t change the fact that it is and always has been.
JE,
Do you understand the concept of a complete non sequitur? Because your retort responded to a point no one was disagreeing with.
You are, however, a classic example of someone I’d never be willing to assume could present me actual facts in an unbiased way. I don’t think you’re self aware enough to be aware of your completely ineffective communication style, which is, in fact, a classic example of exactly what I’m talking about when it comes to the capacity to persuade others rather than making them more likely to assume the “other side” is filled with partisan hacks rather than neutral facts that don’t care what your politics are. And please, feel free to take the last word.
Do you understand the concept of a complete non sequitur?
Yes, prime example being your concern trolling that started this little sub-thread. You are complaining about politics in a subject that is nothing *but* politics and you wonder why no-one is taking your concern-trolling seriously. boo hoo. And yes, I know nothing I can say will persuade you because there is nothing *anyone* could say to persuade you because you are not here to be persuaded you are here to concern-troll. What you don’t get it that it’s transparent to all that care to look that that is what you are doing. so cry us a river of your fake concern troll tears, no ones buying them.
And please, feel free to take the last word.
Ok, last word taken 🙂
I understand your point. WUWT used to be less political. But the CAGW debate has (like it or not) become one of politics. WUWT has followed that shift.
We all know the Dems love the CC narrative, but I would like to see WUWT posting more articles shamming the RINOs who pander to the CC industry.
Being from Canada, we have this problem too. All political parties have bowed down to the CC god. They are frightened that a news paper or news TV network might publish a negative article about their skepticism. So the only differentiator now is what policies they plan to enact to combat CC.
Almost every country in the world has this dilemma. In the political theater, there are no opposing views. The CC industry has done a great job there.
“So the only differentiator now is what policies they plan to enact to combat CC.”
Then let the RINOs push back with a nuclear power plan. What’s the matter, are they stupid? (Yes)
When I read the part where mortality statistics in Africa and the lack of electrification [and how this affected heart and lung health and thus the mortality rate] I recalled debates about World Bank policies that either helped or harmed the construction of power plants. The alarmists want the world bank to retard development of power plants there. It struck me how this is a modern and pernicious form of First World Imperialism these same people are otherwise quick to condemn.
Did a breath of fresh air just happen? Well done Dr. Rossiter, and all who sail with you.
Meanwhile, the media reports on ”climate experts” who think it’s clever to super glue themselves around town. Let’s see who the politicians will listen to… Oh, right.
Elections coming up here in Ireland soon. Virtually every Political party and Independent candidate have attached themselves to the Climate crusade. The result will show a mandate for making it a priority.
Eamon.
Write-in vote for super glue?
Think about this for a moment. Global mortality from all weather-related natural disasters can decline by 99% and people can STILL get away with claiming that they’re increasing.
Here, AOC gets called out on it, but that doesn’t always happen.
Bow ties trigger me.
Bow ties are cool. — Matt Smith’s Doctor
Maybe an alien can pull it off.
Ocasio-Cortez, who said she did not want to spend her allotted time to question witnesses solely to fact-check Rossiter, did do some of that. “Let’s get it back to the actual subject of this hearing,” she urged, “which is the impact of climate change on human health. We’re not debating whether climate change is real, and we’re not debating any of those attendant effects.”
This is code for “Let’s get back to my narrative. These on topic facts don’t support my narrative, so let’s all just agree to ignore them.”
Let’s get it back to the actual subject of this hearing,” she urged, “which is the impact of climate change on human health…”
Which shows she didn’t listen to what Rossiter said, as he discusses “the actual subject of this hearing.” when he discussed the impact on human health – burning cheap, reliable fossil fuels (the stuff she blames for climate change) are a net benefit to human health. the impact is *positive*, not *negative* like she wishes everyone to believe.
We’re not debating whether climate change is real
And neither was Mr Rossiter. He took it as a given that there is man-made CO2 driven climate change and proceeded to point out that the impact of that is a net positive.
and we’re not debating any of those attendant effects.”
What she really means is don’t destroy her narrative agenda with actual facts.
I disagree. Dr. Caleb Rossiter did not hijack the congressional ‘Climate Change’ flight of fancy. He spanked the hijackers, tossed them out of the cockpit, and returned ‘Climate Change’ testimony to the course of verifiable facts and truths.
Well Done, Dr. Caleb Rossiter! Well Done Sir!
And now I read in the Brussels Times “Electric vehicles emit more CO2 than diesel ones, German study shows”
Check out the video on YouTube of this committee hearing (Subcommittee on Environment: Climate Change II).
https://youtu.be/EIhfCAUMKM8?t=5557
Five Alarmists on the panel to one lukewarmer…typical.
I was hoping to learn about the link between climate and childhood obesity (nope). Alarmists can just say any dumb thing they want about warming.
Also the pollution from the US is causing $Hundreds of $Billions worth of health problems to children around the world from climate change. What crap.
Just another worthless government hearing where Democrats tell lies…usually when no one is listening fortunately. Nobody is likely to see it or hear about it. No minds will be changed.
The only takeaway: THE NEXT TIME DEMOCRATS ARE IN POWER THEY WILL TRY TO DESTROY THE COUNTRY AND THE ECONOMY…AGAIN.
Every time I read about someone like Dr Rossiter speaking knowledgeably and calmly in the face of hostility and wilful ignorance, I think about the citizens who listened on C-Span or via other access. Then I choose to believe that there are those whose minds are subsequently opened to a version of reality other than what the MSM shovels out daily. Just a few at a time, who then begin to talk bravely and gently to their friends about what they are learning. Spreading the word. Keeping faith.
The tiny little speck (okay, maybe a limited few tiny specks) of anthropogenic CO2 molecules in a tall column of atmosphere up to 25 km is responsible for what?
Idiots.
My dog got run over yesterday, wet road, oily surface. bloody global Warming!
Well done, sir. I’m proud of you standing up to the political hacks of the left trying to use this hyperbole to control the peoples of the world who think we’re so stupid we’ll accept their lies.
there seems to be no Wikipedia for Caleb Rossiter. Where can i find his bio ????
Here is a summary….
https://co2coalition.org/members/caleb-rossiter-phd/
bill, for anything climate related Wikipedia is highly untrustworthy. You can be certain that any bio that would be there would be distorted by the climate gatekeepers at Wikipedia.
If you want to know more about him a good place to start is with his CV:
http://www.calebrossiter.com/cv.html
Looks like the Cavalry has finally shown up, and not a minute too soon. Now maybe the fight can be fought with facts and real science.
The fewer the facts the stronger the opinions but it hasn’t really been about the truth for a long time .
The scary climate bed wetters seek political power , another source of revenue to fund a communist globalist agenda and a way to fleece tax payers for themselves and bunk buddies .
Who knows taking the high road may pay off . Certainly President Trump bought the silent majority time .