Physics Reveals ‘Green’ Energy Sources Are Unrealistic And Unsustainable

From The Federalist

March 29, 2019 By The Federalist Staff

Can existing “green” energy match the efficiency of fossil fuels? Mark P. Mills, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, shares his new report on The Federalist Radio Hour, where he examines the physics behind green energy proposals. Mills shows why the world is no where near ready to undergo this “urgent” transition demanded by climate change alarmists.

“You have to recognize what Mother Nature, the physics, permits and doesn’t permit,” he said. “New discoveries will come from basic science, not from subsidies for yesterday’s technologies. We didn’t get the internet by subsidizing the rotary phone.”

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Gamecock
April 1, 2019 2:28 pm

Y’all need to think outside the box. Casket, in this case.

‘Green’ energy sources are realistic and sustainable. Your problem is you are hung up on 7 billion people. Think 300 million. Then it all falls into place.

You are superfluous. Your family is superfluous. Your community is superfluous. Imagining a future with you in it is decadent. Resistance is futile.

wadelightly
April 1, 2019 3:47 pm

Kinda puts another nail in the coffin of the Green New Deal.

Yirgach
April 1, 2019 7:28 pm

I live near a hydro pumped storage system. It’s a mountain reservoir connected to a hydro generator by a 3 mile long wood stave pipeline. The “pump” which fills the reservoir is the local weather. There is quite a bit of precipitation in Southern Vermont and it eventually refills the reservoir.
Slow and steady wins the race.
http://wikimapia.org/8874691/Hydroelectric-wood-stave-Pipeline

April 1, 2019 9:59 pm

There’s a fair amount of BS in this report. I don’t have time to detail all the BS, but there’s:

1) The statement that $200,000 of Tesla batteries can store the energy in a barrel of oil. That’s basically BS. Try burning a barrel of oil, “recharging” it, and burning again the same oil that was previously burned. Doesn’t work too well. The Tesla batteries can do that thousands of times.

2) The comparison of the weight of gasoline to the weight of batteries is basically bogus too. A gasoline car needs an engine (plus cooling system) and a transmission. So the comparison should be the weight of the gasoline plus the engine (plus cooling system) plus the transmission to the EV batteries plus EV motors. (Then throw in trying to get equivalent acceleration. Ever see a Tesla versus a big-block Chevelle on a drag strip?)

John Pickens
Reply to  Mark Bahner
April 2, 2019 1:32 am

Did Duane just change his name to offer up the same perpetual motion nonsense?

Dr. Strangelove
Reply to  Mark Bahner
April 2, 2019 2:48 am

Tesla P100D 1/4 mile record is 10.44 sec. Challenger Demon is quicker at 9.65 sec.

April 2, 2019 6:56 am

“Tesla P100D 1/4 mile record is 10.44 sec. Challenger Demon is quicker at 9.65 sec.”

Here’s a video with a 850 HP Demon running racing fuel versus a Tesla:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFmFr5boXvw

But you’re missing the point. The point is, in order to be comparable in *acceleration* to an electric car, the gasoline car needs to be have a frickin’ powerful engine (not to mention, for the Challenger, a honkin’ heavy duty clutch and massive differential). To count only the weight of the fuel versus the weight of the battery–and to completely ignore the much heavier engine/transmission or engine/clutch/differential versus the very lightweight electric motors)–is to compare apples to oranges. Which was probably Mark Mills’ purpose.

P.S. For the Challenger, a massive *exploding* differential:

https://www.tflcar.com/2019/02/dodge-demons-destroyed-rear-differentials/

😉

Dr. Strangelove
Reply to  Mark Bahner
April 3, 2019 4:14 am

But you’re missing the point. The very reason engineers built the muscle car is for the frickin’ powerful engine, heavy duty clutch, massive differential, exploding nitro fuel and ear-popping roar. You’re comparing Angela Gossow with Taylor Swift. Yeah Angela has demonic voice :-0

April 3, 2019 8:47 am

“But you’re missing the point. The very reason engineers built the muscle car is for the frickin’ powerful engine, heavy duty clutch, massive differential, exploding nitro fuel and ear-popping roar.”

I’m not missing that point. That’s just like the Tesla engineers put the Ludicrous mode in…to be ludicrous. (Which is apparently beyond “insane”.)

https://www.wired.com/2015/07/teslas-new-ludicrous-mode-makes-model-s-supercar/

Mark Mills’ report compared the range per pound of *fuel* for battery electric automobiles versus gasoline automobiles. But perhaps if he was an engineer (as I am)–or perhaps if he wasn’t trying to put spin on the situation–he’d realize that cars don’t go anywhere if they are just a tank filled with gasoline. Or batteries in the platform. A gasoline car needs and engine and transmission…or a clutch and differential…to go anywhere. And the batteries need motors, of course.

So the proper comparison is the range in miles per the total pounds of everything it takes a gasoline automobile to go somewhere versus the range in miles for everything it takes a battery electric vehicle to go somewhere. If Mark Mills had done that, it’s a much closer comparison.

And then if the comparison was on the basis of *acceleration*, the comparison would be even closer. It looks to me like the Tesla can beat the Demon on an 1/8th mile strip (or zero to 60 mph) but the Demon beats the Tesla on a 1/4 mile strip (or zero to 120 mph). Personally, if I had $100,000+ to spend on a car…I wouldn’t buy either. I’d buy…a used Jaguar, and spend the $100,000+ on repairs:

There’s a beaut!

🙂

Gamecock
April 3, 2019 4:48 pm

I pulled up behind a Tesla S at a traffic light a few weeks ago.

I drive a 2016 Shelby GT350. 526hp.

When the light turned green, he was gone like a rocket ship in a space movie. I was stunned. I’d say his acceleration was 2X mine, maybe more. Off the line, they are astounding.

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