Michael Bastasch | Energy Editor 2:48 PM 11/19/2018 | Energy
The New York Times suggested future global warming would be worse than the plagues unleashed on Egypt in the Bible’s Old Testament.
“In Exodus, the plagues came one at a time. In the future, climate crises might arrive in packs,” The NYT’s climate team tweeted Monday, promoting an article about a global warming study.
In Exodus, the plagues came one at a time. In the future, climate crises might arrive in packs. https://t.co/j0oTDdUDIs
— NYT Climate (@nytclimate) November 19, 2018
In the book of Exodus, God unleashed 10 plagues upon Egypt until the pharaoh agreed to Moses’ demand he let the enslaved Israelites leave. The plagues included locusts, turning water into blood and death to first-born Egyptian sons.
The NYT’s Twitter account was promoting an article published Monday on a study that claimed “some tropical coastal areas of the planet, like the Atlantic coast of South and Central America, could be hit by as many as six crises at a time” by 2100.
Lead author Camilo Mora and 22 fellow researchers found claim to have found “traceable evidence for 467 pathways by which human health, water, food, economy, infrastructure and security have been recently impacted by climate hazards,” including heat waves, droughts and storms.
Mora’s study claims “the world’s population will be exposed concurrently to the equivalent of the largest magnitude in one of these hazards if emissions are aggressively reduced,” but “three if they are not.”
Mora told The NYT it’s “like a terror movie that is real.” (RELATED: Jerry Brown Is ‘Not Correct’ About California Wildfires, Scientist Says)
The study’s alarming claims are only made possible with the help of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s controversial “business as usual” scenario.
RCP8.5 is the IPCC’s “nightmare” scenario where warming reaches more than 8 degrees Fahrenheit by the end of the century. It’s with this scenario, and pretty much only this scenario, that scientists are able to make alarming future projections about natural disasters.
However, scientists are becoming increasingly skeptical of using RCP8.5 as a “business as usual” scenario.
Two University of British Columbia scientists published a study in 2017 calling into question scientists’ use of RCP 8.5. The scientists found that RCP 8.5 modeled a future in which historical trends reverse, and the world switches to using more coal.
This “indicates RCP8.5 and other ‘business-as-usual scenarios’ consistent with high CO2 forcing from vast future coal combustion are exceptionally unlikely,” they wrote in their study.
This isn’t the first time TheNYT has alluded to the Bible when it comes to global warming. A June 2017 NYT article likened a collapse of Antarctica’s ice sheet to the story of Noah’s ark.
“In the Epic of Gilgamesh, waters so overwhelm the mortals that the gods grow frightened, too,” reporter Justin Gillis wrote. “In India’s version, Lord Vishnu warns a man to take refuge in a boat, carrying seeds. In the Bible, God orders Noah to carry two of every living creature on his ark.”
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HTTPS Everywhere – Another bogus scare tactic to extract money, in this case from webmasters. Not unlike climate alarmism, and maybe they got the idea from seeing how that one worked.
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Thanks, Ian. Very informative.
…if you don’t stop global warming…God will be pissed
They will try anything…..if it were real, they wouldn’t have to try anything at all
Latitude
Whoa!!! Stop right there.
Some short time, geologically speaking, before man arrived on the planet, it would appear God screwed up and sequestered enough vegetation to reduce atmospheric CO2 down to 180 ppm, dangerously low.
Yea verily, God considered for a universe moment and realised his mistake, uttering “Oh shit! I cocked up, my little blue planet is screwed!”
Then an idea……….”I know, I’ll chuck a rock at the planet, wipe out all the Dave Icke lizards and start again cos’ the lizards are too thick” And so it passed, God did flick a pebble at planet earth, the evil lizards passed on and the mammals flourished.
God had the foresight to grant the mammals the gift of curiosity, that’s why he wiped out the lizards instead. He noted “those green b’stards just eat shoots and leaves, I’ll not make that mistake again”.
And man begot fire. And man burned everything to keep warm until there was no wood left. At which point man saw rocks burning and uttered “Blimey, that’s clever, I think I’ll try that”.
The rest is history. CO2 made a comeback like an ageing rock star.
That universal, celestial night God was satisfied, his work was done. He considered his immediate future and said to himself “Right, I’m off down to the pub to meet Zeus for a pint. What a story I have for him, he can brag all he want’s about his brat Thor’s achievements, this tops everything”.
And God was satisfied, and pissed by the end of the night.
So endeth the reading.
Sorry………Epilogue.
I am an Idiot!
comment winner of the day;-) no idiot
HotScot sez:
“I’m off down to the pub
to meet Zeus for a pint. ”
Are you sure
you didn’t “warm up”
with a few pints at home,
first?
Your comment is amusing,
interesting and correct.
Our planet suffers from too little
CO2 in the air for optimum plant growth.
CO2 doubled or tripled
from the current level,
would support more animal
and human life on this planet.
Of course that is based on
real science, obviously unknown
to New York Slimes authors,
and many decades of experience
of greenhouse owners,
who use CO2 enrichment systems,
at their own expense,
to accelerate the growth
of their plants.
Of course, what could greenhouse owners
possibly know about growing plants?
What works well inside a greenhouse,
will also work well outdoors — there
are thousands of experiments
— real science — not computer models
to prove that, summarized here:
https://www.heartland.org/_template-assets/documents/CCR/CCR-IIb/Summary-for-Policymakers.pdf
My own climate science blog:
http://www.elOnionBloggle.Blogspot.com
This is called Sola Scriptura..
The NYT falls into the trap of putting their own views into their Bible Studies.
Not surprising then that atheists mock!
The opposite of Sola Scriptura is to take note of the readings of the Bible handed down. by those who wrote the Scrolls. Jewish mainly. they were collected by the Christian Church because there was a lot of muddle headed nonsense being preached… by the equivalent of the Green Parties .
Prologue.
God woke the next morning with a raging hangover and recalled the night in the pub with Zeus. “Man, that guys a braggart, what did he say though?” And God pondered for a celestial moment, by which time many of earth’s years passed.
Then over his full English breakfast God thundered “OH SHIT!…..I did it again! I killed off the lizards but I forgot about Green……the Greens! They are once again infecting my blue planet!”
“Here we go again! What have I done, Zeus is so going to take the piss if he ever finds out about this! I’m on the wagon, never again!”
And God picked up another pebble………….
LMAO…you’re on a roll!!!!…..excellent
Latitude
I admit to having a giggle whilst I typed it.
But look beyond the laugh, I’m not religious, but man did end up here at the right moment and 280 ppm before the Industrial Revolution is a bit close to extinction for comfort.
It really is the most extraordinary coincidence. No other earthly being, as far as we are aware, mastered fire. Humankind didn’t just master it, we took it to an entirely new level by discovering it could make electricity…..then everything went haywire.
Our moment in time now is a pause, a time to reflect, but it won’t stop man’s progress, nor the increase in atmospheric CO2.
The greens may well be recorded as useful in the history books of the future, to have us pause, for that momentary thought, before we move on again to humanities next destination. But in the scheme of things, mankind is just too ambitious an entity to be stopped by one dissenting voice, rightly or wrongly.
Humanities destiny doesn’t rest on the flap of a single butterflies wing, that is a metaphor (In my opinion) for every decision in the world, taken by every organism, earthbound or celestial, contributing to mankind’s future, and merely crystallises it’s unpredictability.
We are here quite by chance, as far as we know. We will likely disappear quite by chance, or we might exist in the future without physical form as technology advances.
Who knows? Certainly not our environmentalist brethren, but perhaps their purpose is to make us pause and think, in which case they have been successful so far.
And God picked up another pebble………….
Or maybe “God gave us Donald Trump.”.
Kamikazedave
You didn’t get it.
Where is Brad Keyes when you need him?
Although I’m an atheist,
I can’t come up with any other
explanation other than:
Maybe God gave us
Shrillary “cankles” Clinton
to run against novice Trump,
foolishly call Trump fans “deplorables”,
ignore the mid-west states,
throw a tantrum after losing,
blaming everyone except herself,
and still thinking she ought to run again
in 2020, because then she would “win” !
(win a second term for Trump, that is)
Richard Greene
Well someone gave us Hilary and Trump. Not sure it was God though, I’m not certain that if he exists he would be focussed on personalities.
I had a Geography teacher in the 70’s and somehow, the class got onto the subject of God with him. He was a nominally religious man but his scientific training resisted his unquestioning compliance.
I asked him if he believed in God, he said yes he did. I asked him the usual questions of how he could condone human suffering etc. and he replied “I think God gave humanity a chance, he gave us a second chance by sending his son to us, now it’s up to us. We are his experiment and he’s now hands off, watching to see what happens”.
I find it difficult to reduce the spirit of individuals to an algorithm, a random computational anomaly of the brain. Yet I don’t believe in the concept of a celestial old folks home for the spirit, nor reincarnation, nor, as much as I would like, a cohort of willing virgins waiting to greet we dirty old men.
I do believe, however, that the spark of individualism, that unique energy that exists in us all is impossible to extinguish, it must go somewhere when we physically die. Or is the life we endure here and now actually hell itself, or maybe just purgatory?
What did I do in a previous life to deserve alarmists? What did they do to deserve me?
🙂
If you create something : how can you yourself be in your creation.? I wrote something sbt that.
Check Henry’s Blog
It just occurred to me,
that being an atheist since I was
old enough to understand the word,
perhaps I am immune to
“biblical plagues”?
I now regret calling Ms. Clinton “cankles”,
which was crude — I was going to type
Shrillary “pantsuit” Clinton, and that
made me think of her wearing
ill-fitting pantsuits to hide her cankles,
which is a very disturbing thought.
I also can’t stand Nancy Pelosi,
but at least she dresses well !
gag elsewhere theyve given cankles an advance on her next book…
hillary 2020
what happened?
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Is the irony lost on them? The Biblical plague stories show the climate “did things” LONG before our eeeevilll, fossil-fuelled profligate ways.
One of my favorite movie scenes. But the part about potentially saving the lives of millions of registered voters (not shown in this clip) was what really made me chortle the first time I saw it. Because that really is the way most politicians see things and make decisions.
What the sky is continuing to fall AND now worse than biblical plagues?? Oh please let the UN tax me and take my few remaining freedoms to ensure we are safe! I won’t be able to sleep for a fortnight now, hahahaha.
Al Miller
Next week the New York Slimes
is going to publish a new article,
saying the threat from climate change
is even worse than they thought this week !
I happen to know climate change does not matter,
because we will all be dead and gone from
the hole in the ozone layer first,
either next year, or the year after.
Climatology is really just a narrative building shitshow of psuedo science obtained by grants provided by ‘donors’.
The end game is obviously, Full Spectrum Dominance.
Coupled with population control.
That is the real goal
I guess they figure they’d “better get while the gettin’ is good.” With the sun still quiet and possible major cooling on the way we seem to be seeing an increase in CAGW scare tactics. Come to think of it, there has been an inverse relationship between rising temperatures and CAGW scare tactics ever since the slowdown started.
“. . . possible major cooling on the way . . .” If one overlays the current interglacial warming with the previous four interglacial periods of warming (see graph at
),
it is apparent the odds are 3:4 that we should now be in a global cooling trend.
Game of Thrones got it right: winter is coming.
It is cooling.
Myths were originally written then passed from generation to generation for political purposes. In the modern world journalism plays this vital role.
NYT, whenever I see Exodus I think good vibes. Thanks for the memories.
Being the NYT, I am surprised they speak of the 10 plagues as being a real thing. I do wonder, however, if they have actually read Exodus. And before they do, they should turn back a few pages and read Genesis and then ask what caused the 7 years of plenty and 7 years of famine if the climate was always stable before rich, high-liberty western nations existed.
One plague was darkness on the land of Egypt except where the Hebrews lived. How will climate change block the sun over the climate sinners of democratic western nations while it will shine brightly over eco-puritans like communist China? The last plague was the death of the firstborns of man and beast at midnight, except for those who slaughtered the passover lamb and splashed its blood on their door. How will climate change cause the death of the firstborns of climate sinners of democratic western nations while preserving all children from eco-puritans like those living under Robert Mugabe?
Of course they don’t speak of Exodus as a real thing.
What they think, is that the church-goers are denialists that could talked to using biblical language. In their world, people who regard climate change mitigation as an inefficiently implemented if not plain detrimental practice, are people who belong to the ‘otherness’ and speaking to them requires ‘other-speak’. The ‘others’ can be stamped with attributes like ‘Christian Bozo’, not really paying any attention on the fact many Christian organizations (like the Catholic Church) actually promote CAGW thinking.
When they mention Exodus, they practice some funny religious tolerance of a rare kind; they think evangelical Christians as a target audience, just not only as people they really hate. Because hate is what they feel. Hate, fear, and rejection.
FYI: I don’t think Exodus is even a near-accurate description of history, but that’s not the point.
The author of this article is influenced by PostModern teaching of the humanities within the Ivory Tower of American Universities. Post Modernism was developed post WWII by French Intellectuals (Jacques Derrida) in the wake of the Leftist realization that the Social catastrophes of Marxist- Leninism could no longer be ignored or rationalized as the ends justifying the means. Marxism became reincarnate as post modernism. Post-modernism has gained adherents by aligning itself with identity politics. Post Modernists believe in an infinite number of possible interpretations of myth, historical narratives, classical literature, and canonical religious and legal texts like the Bible and the US Constitution; such that no interpretation should be privileged above any other, that one’s belief is as valid as any other even if only based on emotion or feeling rather than fact, nor is any one to be considered truthful since that interpretation is merely one of many and what is called the logically true in which the premises of an argument are true and the argument logically valid is a merely a cultural construction designed and intended to support the corrupt, illegitimate Western Patriarchy that oppresses all nonWhite, nonMale, nonHetersexual, nonJudeoChristian, non-cis gendered people. Here the reader sees the intersection of post modernism with the identity politics and feelings of the environmentalist with his interpretation of Exodus.
Wade…a lot more recent than that
Starting around 1930…for over a decade…you couldn’t grow a cactus where we grow most of our food now
…the dust bowl
Fires were burning over 30 million acres a year…
If that happened now…climate scientists would be jumping off roofs
The hunger years
due to global cooling
are almost here.
2019-87= 1932
dry and warmer summers
dry and cooler winters
at the higher latitudes.
click on my name to read my final report
Consider that J was able or forced to observe the flooding of the Nile. …
Must say:
I remember 40 years ago, if there was a drought time, we were all asked to pray…
Now, 40 years later, [and I assume much of the western world has stopped believing in God]
we are actually told that the drought time is due to ‘climate change’ and because it is ‘man made’ it is our own fault…..
Also, most people are clueless about weather patterns. they have not yet vfigured out that the hunger years are almost here.
Click on my name to read my final report and get wise….
And instead of being told “We must PRAY now we are being told “We must PAY”
Someone stole my R
True.
Funny…is it not, how the times are changing.
Seriously that’s totally bollocks, and not because the Atlantic coast of South and Central America could not be hit by as many as six crises at a time by 2100.
“some tropical costal areas of the planet, like the Atlantic coast of South and Central America . . .”
Uhhh . . . the southern limit of the Atlantic coast would arguably be Faro Cabo de Hornos, Chile, located at 55 degrees 59 minutes south. It’s only about 500 miles away from the continent of Antactica and could hardly be considered “tropical costal.”
Whew North America gets a by again
God bless America
nuthin to it, simply up the hype and change the defn of crises.
The plague upon our houses is the msm of which the NYT is an exemplar. Global Warning about impending doom and gloom is their stock in trade because no one would bother reading their grouptalk* drivel otherwise, not even registered leftards.
* This is the correct term, not “groupthink”, because there is no thinking associated with it at all just cocktail party type networking chit chat, generally with the aim of getting laid, a gig or a job.
… or getting elected.
Don’t they realize that the more outlandish their claims, the more people laugh at them and then ignore them?
Considering that the NYT declared that “God is Dead” decades ago, they can’t believe in the Bible or Gods rath and thus their claims about it are irrelevant.
I was in high school when Time Magazine went with a cover: ‘Is God Dead?’
Being the same iconoclast as now, I artfully, with cut-and-paste, rearranged the words and taped the result on my locker.
While I got some limited positive peer review, the powers-that-be were not amused.
Like the Grauniad, if it’s in the NYT, then it is guaranteed to be fake news.
Back with the crazy RCP8.5 ‘predictions’. What is of course more likely is to continue having similar numbers of crisis as we have today; mostly perpetrated by socialist governments on their own people.
Yes, China and India are good examples of “Business as Usual”. They can burn as much fossil fuels as they desire both now and in the future.
I haven’t seen the New York Times castigating China and India for their Business as Usual practices which will supposedly bring on these climate diasaters. Shouldn’t the NYT focus on the source of the “problem”? And the NYT should include itself as one source of the problem, the problem of spreading disinformation all over the planet.
A lying news media is a dangerous news media. Dangerous to the personal freedoms of all of us. We cannot govern ourselves properly if we are not given the truth.
I think the NYT is one of the modern plagues of humanity, along with all the other idiot news outlets without writers or reporters who are capable of independent thought when finding everything, everywhere is being made worse by alleged CO2 induced climate change.
Apart from the points made above, why would the NYT reporter imagine the afflictions suffered by the Egyptians all came in singular order rather than severally – especially if you consider that the Exodus account may just be a garbled folk memory of a real natural catastrophe like the Santorini eruption, written down long after the actual event.
The plague now arriving on platform 1 is the delayed boils special from….
WUWT posts another lame strawman article (albeit a repost). What a surprise. What the NYT blurb says is that while biblical plagues arrived singly, multiple climate changed induced crises may arise at the same time. There is no mention of a comparison of their effects. I don’t see the word “worse”. Then again, one might want to consider that, while the effects of climate change are global, the biblical plagues were visited only upon Egypt. Given that, worse is accurate.
Only a Koolade-guzzling lamebrained Warmunist could possibly think they weren’t making a comparison, and that, by virtue of the fact that “climate change” would visit upon mankind six mythical climate “plagues” at once, the Bible’s mythical plagues were only visited on man one at a time.
slipstick, if they weren’t try to make a comparison then why compare them? And how is multiple “bad events” happening at the same time not worse than having a “bad events” happen by it’s lonesome?
Droughts, Floods, Fires, Earthquakes, and Destruction also happened in 1906, another period of time when the average temperature of the then current decade (1896-1906) was greater than the average climate of the prior 30 year period (1866-1895).
Great job, Slipstick. It was moronic enough to pretend that the NYT was not implying things would be “worse” with packs of plagues instead of one-at-a-time arrivals.
Then you go ahead and admit that “worse is accurate” if these plagues were more widespread than just affecting Egypt. And the study specifically references these packs of plagues affecting more than just Egypt.
The stupid, it burns.
‘Lead author Camilo Mora and 22 fellow researchers found claim to have found “traceable evidence for 467 pathways’
I am sure that with more researchers they would have found more ‘traceable evidence’…
It’s hard for me to believe that any thinking person takes all these overwrought dire warnings seriously, that have been touted over and over and over but have never come to pass. But I guess there are many unthinking people, too many, that do. Then when something, anything bad does happen – as always happens sooner or later in this large world of ours – they say “See! We were right!”
It seems to me to be literally an obsession bordering on insanity. And with many of them already having crossed that border.
It is the kids of the last 20 years who are getting the meme bashed into their heads from every angle in every course from Math to English to PE which now seems to carry a requirement for teaching the Climate Change narrative as part of the course
“Lead author Camilo Mora and 22 fellow researchers”
Does it really take 23 researchers to do one paper ?
No, only 97% of the idiots in their coffee klatch :<)
“Mora told The NYT it’s “like a terror movie that is real.”
More proof that these people don’t live in the “real” world…..
It’s curious that one can speak of plagues in the future caused by a poorly understood “climate”, without being equally concerned about plagues of today caused by political doctrines imposed on countries like Venezuela. It’s even more curious that the remedy endorsed by these so-called scientists is to adopt these failed political doctrines worldwide.
I was just thinking that action is needed right now to plan for protective measures that (IF) pigs (MIGHT) learn to fly in 20 years.
See, I can speculate as easily as the New York Times “climate team”.
Who needs the plagues when you have the NYT? I grew up in the NYC area. They lost all credibility with me 50 years ago.
In contrast to the New York Times, it’s good to hear the voice of reason about climate prospects coming from the White House, roughly paraphrased: “Sure the climate has changed, and maybe we’ve had something to do with it. But it’ll change back.”
“recently impacted by climate hazards,” including heat waves, droughts and storms.” As if these events never or infrequently happened before. Get real. Even if you could, statistically, show that these events occur more often, it is still not POSITIVE proof global warming is the cause.
Jumping the shark happened long ago.
I would set up a competition for the most unlikely disaster caused by Global Warming, if John Brignell hadn’t already cornered the market in apocalyptic predictions. Actually, The Day After Tomorrow is a pretty good example of overkill….
I wonder if this article was on the same page that reported record low temperatures in Providence, Rhode Island; Buffalo, New York; Hartford, Connecticut; and Bangor, Maine?
467 pathways
Cold is likely in the >400 section, but I’m not interested.
Ah yeah the fear of a good plague was always the favourite for religions when it wasn’t going so well, next we will have true climate believer baptisms. Unfortunately usually a bit after that it all goes to mush and everyone dies and we get to sing songs of praise.
Just putting it out there that COP24 is next week so all pagans need to put the sign above the door.
I think ‘six impossible things before breakfast’ from Lewis Carroll is more accurate rather than a Bible quotation.
J Ritchie and H Dowlatabadi find IPCC’s RCP 8.5 to be highly unlikely – based on the actual amount of economically recoverable coal gas and oil available. See
The 1,000 GtC Coal Question: Are Cases of High Future Coal Combustion Plausible?
http://www.rff.org/files/document/file/RFF-DP-16-45.pdf
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The bogus RCP 8.5 scenario is physically impossible no matter how much CO2 we emit yet the Summary for Policymakers considers this the most likely outcome if we do nothing. Certainly this obsessive fear of CO2 is detrimental to the free world, and there can be no doubt that acting irrationally to mitigate what’s otherwise impossible is far more harmful to mankind and the planet then doing nothing at all.
Here’s my niece and nephews in Maine enjoying the arctic blast with a golf cart and ski’s
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LxeJokuR7OI
I am always surprised how few people seem to look at the “burning globe” image often seen in global warming propaganda and news pieces and don’t see that global warming is affirming Revelation. The world will end in fire and according to these scientists, we’re almost there. Scientific evidence of the validity of Revelation or a mere coincidence?
(Yes, I am being sarcastic with the last sentence. It’s just amazing people don’t seem to see the connection.)
But when that time comes that heat ain’t going to be Man-made.
Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming is literally a prophecy with a pretense of scientific integrity. It is a myth based on speculation and evidence outside of the near-frame, where it cannot be observed, reproduced, and the conclusions are inferred.
I’m surprised no one has (or maybe they have) compared our coming Catastroclimate to Dante’s Inferno and the 9 Circles of Hell, calling it the 10th Circle of Hell. Seeing as how they’ve now gone completely crackers, and no longer seem to care how idiotic they sound.
Cultural approprtion seems to have been engaged in by the authors trying to support their premise. Maybe next time, instead of talking about when Vishnu as a fish gave advice, they’ll regale us with other secrets; no, not about being a polygamist who sent wives to places.
As a tortoise, Vihnu used that shell to hold up the mountain that churned the Sea of Milk. Hairs dislodged off the tortoise came ashore to become the sharp bladed grass “kusha/kusa” (Eragrostis/Poa cynosroides). Now, all that churning was to get an immortlity drink for a few potential gods.
I’m not naming names but some, they know who they are, spilled a bit of that nectar on that sharp grass; which imbued that grass with portent. So all the original post’s refered to thinkers need to do is buy pairs of Kush sandals to avoid personal catastrophy – but if they click the heels
together 3 times they will be guilty of cultural appropriation.
And of course, man has NO ABILITY to decrease the imagined effects of these future scenarios because we just helplessly stand there letting mosquitoes eat us, sea levels cover us, and migrating termites (running from the climate change) eat our houses. We are just as helpless as the ancient Egyptians.
But in truth, every decade we advance towards better construction and engineering, better medicine, and better pest control ALL because we are an advanced energy-consumption based society.
I often wonder if these rag-papers take themselves seriously? Or are they just laughing at their own stories behind closed doors?
Catastrophe is always good for clicks. As in, “Made ya Look.” Once you’ve clicked, they’ve got what they wanted.
So now they want to throw the bible at us!
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will know them by their fruits.”
It doesn’t seem that many people in the USA are paying attention to the NYT.
The Wikipedia page for “Newspaper of record” lists two such for the USA, namely the New York Times and The Washington Post.
The category [Newspapers of record (by reputation)] typically consists of those newspapers that are considered to meet higher standards of journalism than most print media, including editorial independence and attention to accuracy, and are usually renowned internationally.
Numbers of papers actually sold, and where, would be interesting. I’ve seen (some time ago) that in the USA, the Wall Street Journal has 2X the circulation of the NYT, and 4X that of the Washington Post. Even so, only the WSJ has a circulation of over 1,000,000.
There are about 330,000,000 citizens. Take away the 80 M under 20, then divide by 2.5 for household size, and get about 100,000,000. (Yes, I know the issues with these assumptions.) So very roughly, the NYT directly reaches ½ of 1% of the population with its print edition.
I’ll guess there is a high proportion of NYT readers in the states of NY, Conn, NJ, Mass, & VA. Likewise for the WSJ, but more dispersed to the rest of the USA.
With that in mind, I find plagues of locusts, floods, blood, and the Epic of Gilagmesh to be fun reading.
Reminds me of Noah’s Ark and the two Lions: Was this a NYT idea!?
Socialism (dictatorships in plain view, hiding in the form of populist take-overs of the political system) and the things man can do to his fellow man are far, far, far worse than anything the Nature can dish up.
The periods and nations of 20th Century socialism proves that point beyond any reasonable doubt.
World population 2000 years ago was about 300M it is now about 7.5Bn. 2000 years ago average life expectancy was 35 years now it is about 82 years. The benefits of technological development and the industrial revolution are clear as measured by sustained life and the associated increase of CO2 in the atmosphere.
Biblical plagues, both literal and the plague of primitivism and having no carbon economy are clear for 2000 years ago compared to today. A clear exposition from Climate Catastrophists as to how our continued emission of CO2 will reduce us to worse than 2000 years ago would be an interesting fictional read.
The Plagues were the result of the eruption of Thera-Santorini in 1600 BC. Moses confirms this when he throws ash from a fire into the sky, where it settled as small dust across all the land of Egypt. (Exodus 9:8). A better description of the long-range fallout from the Thera eruption would be hard to find.
Plus this nationwide ash-fall was linked to: darkness for three days; air too thick to breathen; a large tsunami (waters parting); and to a pillar of fire and smoke. How did the ancient scribes know that all these diverse events are linked to a maritime eruption??
Quite clearly this has to be an eye-witness account of the eruption of Thera, which caused the Israelite Exodus (and the Hyksos Exodus, which happened at the same time).
Ralph
ralfellis,
The explosion of Thera and the “parting of the sea” only makes sense if “… the Israelites’ path took them north to the coast and that the “sea” they crossed was part of Lake Sirbonis, an arm or bay of the Mediterranean, after the crossing of which they turned south into the Sinai Peninsula.”
Identity of “The Sea” ?
Seems this is a debate with no end.
They crossed the Reed Sea, not thr Red Sea. The Reed sea runs against rhe Mediterranean coast.
R
Seems you did not read what I wrote nor what the link said.
Oh well.
The Book of Revelation and Exodus are more believable and science-based than Global Warming / Climate Change.
Yet global warming is better for humans than the coming Ice Age will be for humans.
NY Times on arctic ice 1922 https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/share/oKoYBWUuiK9lJmKqlimp1tiM1gBWwljjcxsc5dybdAD
I swear, these numbskulls must sit up all night trying to come up with worse and worse scenarios. Before long they’ll have another one much worse than this, and then another….and another…and..
Art
It’s nothing new for the NYT or any of many other so called “news media”.
https://realclimatescience.com/2017/11/evaluating-mans-impact-on-manhattan-sea-level/
There will always be those that never grew up and fear monsters under their bed and must have a light on to sleep at night and there will always be those that will feed the anxiety needs of that segment.
Meanwhile in Canada, we are experiencing record cold temperature for this time of the year!
I can’t wait for global warming
And you don’t mind sharing it either.
Here is a timely story from the past. The Chico ER news site has this story out today, …https://www.chicoer.com/2018/11/23/paradise-camp-fire-is-deadliest-u-s-wildfire-in-100-years-eerily-similar-to-1918-inferno-that-killed-453/
” 467 pathways by which human health, water, food, economy, infrastructure and security have been recently impacted by climate hazards,” including heat waves, droughts and storms.”
467 x worse than we thought
lol. Why not 666 pathways. And presumably “traceable evidence” is somehow better than any other kind of traditional evidence?
Honestly. Where do we get these people? Or perhaps I should say, “Where does the NYT get these people?”
I hear what they say but can someone tell me when this CAGW is actually going to start. I’m getting tired of waiting. I’d even be happy if someone could tell me when AGW is going to start.
It has already started and we are already dead. AGW destroyed the planet and killed all of us long time ago, which means none of this is real. Atleast that’s what the media and politicians have been saying for years, and they are never wrong.
It strikes me that you resemble the Global Warming enthusiast of the world, all you on this blog who have no idea what you are talking about but have opinions about it anyway!
Even old writings must be approached in an academic manner and their meaning and purpose at the time they were written taken into considerations whether they are Caesar’s Gallic War or the Book of Isaiah or the Iliad.
A bit of intellectual rigour would not go amiss.
Try a bit of logic now and then or you’ll end up as bad as politicians who put together two things which happen concurrently and tell us one caused the other!
My background being in Archaeology with some Ancient History and Geomorphology at a Scottish University What kind of background do you Science graduates have?
It strikes me that you are committing the logical of fallacy of “Appeal to Authority”, in this case, your own.
(If remember correctly, it was some kid with no background in fashion that declared “The Emperor has no clothes”.
I don’t think so! It is common to think so ,though
The interpretation of any Scripture ( Jewish or Christian or Moslem ) or Classical literature has been the business of many minds .
What is wrong with taking heed of their opinions? If you want to counter them write your own opinions backed up instances where they are proved to be wrong.
Consult any professional and he will speak with authority. You do so , no doubt, on matters on which you have
more firsthand knowledge than most. Greens don’t do these things , they conform to an agreed opinion or risk
exclusion from the group. IMHO. I think we should not copy them
Frost and snow will not leave New York in November.
“Might” “Could” “Maybe”. The worthless language of climate non science touted as somehow authoratitive science.
The book of Exodus was/is myth. Does the NYT believe otherwise?
By equating global warming to the book of Exodus, NYT are implying that global warming is also a myth. I’m OK with that.
But it has left me wondering if the NYT are smarter/dumber than I thought they were. (And I have never thought they were very bright)
Well, you gotta get those readers somehow.
So the NY Slimes now thinks they are Moses? And they are on a “mission from the 97%” to intimidate the public into blind submission to the divine climate models, or face the wrath of post-menopausal Gaia.
Someone better check the quality of the drugs these guys are on. Just because the label says Vicodin, doesn’t mean that is what you are getting, when you buy it in the alley next to the pharmacy.
“The New York Times suggested future global warming would be worse than the plagues unleashed on Egypt in the Bible’s Old Testament.
“In Exodus, the plagues came one at a time.”
And that’s the problem with, the nuisance of NYT:
The New York Times suggested future global warming would be worse than the plagues unleashed on Egypt in the Bible’s Old Testament.
In Exodus, the plagues came one at a time. But Exodus was a single occurrence in time.
The NYT gets into print every new day.
/ the reason it’s called ‘new york timES’ /
Someday NYT will find it’s own ‘tipping point ‘.