Cat5 #HurricaneWilla may stop migrant caravan as it slams Mexico

Caravan of migrants swells to 7,000 and stretches more than a mile long as they continue marching towards the U.S. border – but Trump warns full efforts are being made to stop the ‘onslaught of illegal aliens’ source – Daily Mail

I’m sure you’ve heard about this growing threat to the southern U.S. border, which seems to be timed for influencing the mid-term elections. But, nature may have other plans. This graphic from National Hurricane Center shows the path of Willa, and it looks to intersect the path of the migrant march in central Mexico:

 

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Hurricane Willa Intermediate Advisory Number 10A
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL       EP242018
1200 PM MDT Mon Oct 22 2018

...EYE OF POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE WILLA
MOVING NORTHWARD...
...EXPECTED TO PRODUCE LIFE-THREATENING STORM SURGE, WIND, AND
RAINFALL OVER PORTIONS OF WEST-CENTRAL AND SOUTHWESTERN MEXICO...


SUMMARY OF 1200 PM MDT...1800 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...19.4N 107.2W
ABOUT 155 MI...250 KM SSW OF LAS ISLAS MARIAS MEXICO
ABOUT 120 MI...190 KM SW OF CABO CORRIENTES MEXICO
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...160 MPH...260 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...N OR 360 DEGREES AT 7 MPH...11 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...925 MB...27.32 INCHES


WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

None.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Hurricane Warning is in effect for...
* San Blas to Mazatlan, including Las Islas Marias

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* Playa Perula to San Blas
* North of Mazatlan to Bahia Tempehuaya

A Hurricane Warning means that hurricane conditions are expected
somewhere within the warning area within the next 36 hours.
Preparations to protect life and property should be rushed to
completion.

A Tropical Storm Warning means that tropical storm conditions are
expected somewhere within the warning area, in this case within the
next 12 to 24 hours.

Interests elsewhere along the coasts of west-central and
southwestern mainland Mexico should monitor the progress of Willa.

For storm information specific to your area, please monitor
products issued by your national meteorological service.


DISCUSSION AND OUTLOOK
----------------------
At 1200 PM MDT (1800 UTC), the center of Hurricane Willa was located
near latitude 19.4 North, longitude 107.2 West.  Willa is moving
toward the north near 7 mph (11 km/h), and this general motion is
expected to continue today.  Willa is forecast to accelerate toward
the north-northeast and move over or very near the Islas Marias
early Tuesday and make landfall along the southwestern coast of
mainland Mexico in the hurricane warning area Tuesday afternoon or
evening.

Maximum sustained winds are near 160 mph (260 km/h) with higher
gusts.  Willa is a category 5 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson
Hurricane Wind Scale.  Some strengthening is still possible today.
Slight weakening is forecast to begin on Tuesday, but Willa is
expected to be an extremely dangerous major hurricane when it
reaches the coast of Mexico.  The Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter
Aircraft that was en route to Willa experienced a safety issue
before entering the storm and had to return to base.

Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 30 miles (45 km) from
the center and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 105
miles (165 km).

The estimated minimum central pressure is 925 mb (27.32 inches).


HAZARDS AFFECTING LAND
----------------------
STORM SURGE:  An extremely dangerous storm surge is likely along
portions of the coast of southwestern Mexico by Tuesday or Tuesday
night, especially near and to the south of where the center of Willa
makes landfall.  Near the coast, the surge will be accompanied by
large and destructive waves.

RAINFALL:  Willa is expected to produce storm total rainfall
accumulations of 6 to 12 inches, with local amounts to 18 inches,
across portions of western Jalisco, western Nayarit, and southern
Sinaloa in Mexico.  This rainfall will cause life-threatening flash
flooding and landslides.

Farther inland, Willa is expected to produce rainfall amount of 2 to
4 inches across portions of Zacateca, Durango, southeast Chihuahua,
and Coahuila in Mexico, with local amounts to 6 inches possible.
This rainfall could cause life-threatening flash flooding.

WIND:  Hurricane conditions are expected within the hurricane
warning area beginning Tuesday afternoon, with tropical storm
conditions expected by Tuesday morning.  Tropical storm conditions
are expected within the tropical storm warning areas by tonight
and Tuesday.

SURF:  Large swells generated by Willa will continue to affect
portions of the coast of southwestern and west-central Mexico
during the next few days.  Swells should begin to affect portions
of the coast of the southern Baja California peninsula later today.
These swells are likely to cause life-threatening surf and rip
current conditions. Please consult products from your local weather
office.

Joe Bastardi makes this point on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/status/1054446772465078273

my reply:

I was thinking more about Mexico’s weak road infrastructure ahead of them that is in the storm path. You can’t cross bridges that are washed out or roads that are flooded and torn up, even if Soros is busing them there.

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October 22, 2018 11:13 am

They need to be stopped ne way or another.

jakee308
Reply to  Salvatore Del Prete
October 22, 2018 12:00 pm

[Snip. Normally this comment would simply be trashed, however, it has been “snipped” instead so those who read it can understand what is considered unacceptable by this site. -mod]

Kevin
Reply to  jakee308
October 22, 2018 12:49 pm

Until we force businesses to use some system to verify this ” Idaho’s unemployment rate in September dropped to 2.7 percent.” will keep the flow coming.

David Long
Reply to  jakee308
October 22, 2018 3:51 pm

I’m surprised nobody has already called out your racist, over-the-top and violent comment. I’ll use my wife as an example: she is Hispanic, came here legally many years ago, has a Master’s Degree, speaks English better than most native speakers and has worked hard and paid taxes all these years. She is against illegal immigration. We certainly don’t deserve to have our business boycotted because of the actions of some people south of the border that have nothing to do with us.
And by the way, there is no official language in the United States; I believe it comes under Freedom of Speech. So if you want to require English, by all means, please ‘explain why you are doing this.’

John Tillman
Reply to  David Long
October 22, 2018 4:07 pm

I agree it would be wrong to punish Latino citizens and legal residents for the actions of foreigners with whom they’re not connected. My wife is Chilean, but I felt that way before marrying a Latina.

Some 30 states however do have official language laws, including CA, where it’s effectively a dead letter.

https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_63,_English_is_the_Official_Language_Amendment_(1986)

Reply to  David Long
October 24, 2018 9:48 am

I not a racist because I love my country but we got to stop this is a war on our country there also about 500 muslims with them I don’t care how we stop but we will your wife came the right way within our laws

Brent K Garner
Reply to  David Long
October 24, 2018 11:09 am

Not to make too fine a point, but there is a vast difference between someone who came here LEGALLY and those who come ILLEGALLY. No problem with those who come LEGALLY. Big problem with those who come ILLEGALLY. Hope you can tell the difference.

Joanna
Reply to  David Long
October 24, 2018 11:09 am

Legal immigrants are opposed to this. Why let anyone jump the line when so many have worked so hard and paid to become legal citizens?

Reply to  Joanna
October 24, 2018 1:58 pm

THATS WHY WE HAVE TO VOTE RED SO PEO[PLE WHO HAVE BEEN WAITING AND DOING IT RIGHT CAN COME HERE NOT THOSE PUSHING ALL YOU WHO HAVE WAITED SO LONG TO FINALLY COME HERE NOT FAIR

Reply to  David Long
October 26, 2018 4:48 pm

EditWatch this pageRead in another language
Languages of the United States
Many languages are spoken, or historically have been spoken, in the United States. Today over 350 languages are used by the U.S. population.[3][4] The most commonly used language is English (specifically, American English), which is the de facto national language of the United States. Since the 1965 Immigration Act, Spanish is the second most common language in the country. The United States does not have an official language, but 32 state governments out of 50 have declared English to be one, or the only, official language. The government of Louisiana offers services and most documents in both English and French, as does New Mexico in English and Spanish. The government of Puerto Rico, a U.S. territory, operates almost entirely in Spanish, even though its official languages are Spanish and English. There are many languages indigenous to North America or to U.S. states or holdings in the Pacific region. Hawaiian, although having few native speakers, is an official language along with English of the state of Hawaii. Alaska officializes English and twenty native languages.

Jeffrey J Mitchell
Reply to  jakee308
October 22, 2018 5:36 pm

Wow. What did the hispanic owned businesses do to you? If they are legally staffed, they shouldn’t be the object of anyone’s hate or anger. Yours is the kind of comment that has no place here.

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  jakee308
October 22, 2018 8:43 pm

“Stop patronizing hispanic owned businesses”

That comment is simply stupid.

Joel Snider
Reply to  Salvatore Del Prete
October 22, 2018 12:07 pm

I gotta tell ya – the amount of disrespect they’re ALREADY showing for our country – as in ‘we’ll just shove our way in’ – reduces my sympathies.

Reply to  Joel Snider
October 24, 2018 9:35 am

I agree. It seems we have no laws here in America. They make them, but don’t follow through to enforce them. Seems since obama spent 8 years plus ignoring what’s been going on in our country, we have lost a great deal of respect. He couldn’t even address the killings, looting and burning by his own people in inner cities. He’s more involved now shooting his mouth off than when he was in the whitehouse. It takes a lot of time to turn things around. We’re working on it but it can’t happen over nite. We need to work together which obviously doesn’t look favorable. WE NEED TO ENFORCE OUR LAWS AND STOP SUPPORTING THE WORLD.

tom
Reply to  Pipi
October 25, 2018 11:33 am

perfectly put,great writing

Reply to  Salvatore Del Prete
October 22, 2018 1:02 pm

I wonder why so many people sacrifice everything to try to live under Trump. Why not in socialistic Venezuela?

Should we accept them, we should demand land in their countries of origin in exchange.

James McCown
Reply to  Curious George
October 22, 2018 4:29 pm

Ask Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez or Bernie Sanders why the Honduran migrant caravan isn’t headed to socialist paradise in Venezuela.

Debbie Rhoades
Reply to  Curious George
October 23, 2018 8:09 am

George how about you live in Venezuela for a month believe you will be begging to come home. It’s illegal to cross borders any where in the world. America is not a sanctuary country that’s needs to provide to the world with issues. President Trump is awesome and done more than any president before him. He needs to cut aide off to every liberal leader of foreign countries and state until they take care of the own people they receive no funds from us. Those leaders are always first before their own people. Socialism does not work in huge countries only small ones like Sweden etc. Socialism is spreading among the young as they want to be given all they can get free and become entitled. No Way does it work the leaders preach it but all it is, is a wolf in a sheepskin. It’s real name is Communism. Trump has blocked the Politcal ponzi leaders from doing that. Wake up and research it.

Arda
Reply to  Debbie Rhoades
October 24, 2018 10:30 am

Exactly. Did you know that in early 50’s there was NO immigration allowed at all? We are a”light” unto the world to show them what they can turn their country into – not a “lighthouse” to guide them here. I’ve had Korean and Hispanic and Caucasion daughter-in-laws – loved all of ’em, but I don’t want an undocumented caravan of any of them crashing our borders.

JS
Reply to  Debbie Rhoades
October 24, 2018 11:44 am

I have been spending some time watching Mexican telenovelas, it is an interesting cultural window. I have learned a lot besides some good Spanish insults 🙂

One thing I have learned is that Mexico has it’s own immigration problem, which is people coming from other Central America countries to live illegally in Mexico. That’s right, as bad as things can be in Mexico, it is a paradise compared to Columbia, Cuba, and some other countries, and at least people there also speak Spanish so it is is easier to blend in and get a job. Illegal immigrants to Mexico also face deportation back to their home countries.

Reply to  Salvatore Del Prete
October 24, 2018 12:51 pm

God separated the sea and stopped the enemy, fed thousands with 3 fishes and 2 loaves of bread, healed blinded eyes, and many more miracles. He can stop the enemy from invading America!! PRAY TO GOD, FOR A MIRACLE THAT WILL STOP “THE INVASION”!!!

October 22, 2018 11:14 am

cor — one

Robert W Turner
October 22, 2018 11:15 am

Add this to the list of things that will backfire for the left. This event is going to bolster support for the wall and it will be built.

kwinterkorn
October 22, 2018 11:19 am

Enough to make a skeptic religious!

Zeus at work against human folly.

David A
Reply to  kwinterkorn
October 22, 2018 1:30 pm

We all know Trump is the cause of hurricanes!

fred oates
Reply to  David A
October 23, 2018 2:33 pm

President Trump would roar @ being deemed the cause of hurricanes!!!!

Ellen
Reply to  kwinterkorn
October 22, 2018 3:29 pm

Whom the Gods would destroy, they first make mad.

VicV
October 22, 2018 11:25 am

They won’t stop even if the hurricane hits. Soros et al. will put them into vehicles. They’ll storm our border like they did Mexico’s. It’ll be interesting to see what Trump does. (What happened to the heat cannons the military has?)

Kevin Lohse
October 22, 2018 11:26 am

That number of people caught out in the open must result in fatalities in 3 figures, and it’ll all be Trump’s fault, But what’s a bit of collateral damage when you’re Resisting?

Madman2001
October 22, 2018 11:28 am

What I understand:
-> There are 7,000 people in this caravan of all ages, including children.
-> The caravan stretches for a mile or more.

What I don’t understand:
-> How are these 7,000 people being fed?
-> Where do these 7,000 people go to the bathroom even?

Any thoughts, folks?

John Endicott
Reply to  Madman2001
October 22, 2018 11:36 am

-> Where do these 7,000 people go to the bathroom even?

I think we can look to the streets of San Francisco and other Democrat run big cities for the answer to that one. (hint: watch were you step in those cities, and similarly anywhere this caravan has passed through as well).

TeaPartyGeezer
Reply to  John Endicott
October 22, 2018 8:01 pm

No, we think it’s Soros funded, including porta-potties.

They have to be getting food and water from someone.

And who’s paying for the medical bills of the one’s that are reported to have collapsed from the heat and exhaustion? Also, there are buses and trucks in that ‘caravan.’ I think they get out and walk for the cameras .. or perhaps they take turns riding and walking.

This is ORGANIZED. It’s the organizers we need to identify and arrest.

John Endicott
Reply to  TeaPartyGeezer
October 23, 2018 6:03 am

I don’t disagree that it’s ORGANIZED (and indeed agree that we need to identify and arrest the organizers). It’s just that the types of people who organize this type of activity are not known for cleaning up after themselves, so I very much doubt they’ve brought their own porta-potties and trash cans. If you are traveling in the wake of this caravan you should definitely watch were you step.

brotherStefan
Reply to  John Endicott
October 23, 2018 2:56 pm

We always seem to be treated with updates regarding the caravan from journalists/reporters at the front end of the caravan. Just curious… have I somehow missed reports emanating from the back?

Reply to  John Endicott
October 24, 2018 10:00 am

John Endicott UP VOTE! I hope for the worst for them and I’m a Costa Rican citizen!

Latitude
Reply to  Madman2001
October 22, 2018 12:07 pm

the news is saying they are being fed by locals……hogwash…locals had enough extra food to feed 7500 people

…and the news is still calling them Guatemalans…when it tripled after they entered Mexico

This is going to backfire on liberals big time …American Mexicans are the largest spanish voting block in this country by far ..unlike a lot of American blacks….American Mexicans get it….they know these people will be competing with them entry level jobs….and doing it a lot cheaper….and Mexicans hate Guatemalans and Hondurans

Ferdinand Berfel
Reply to  Madman2001
October 23, 2018 2:43 pm

Madman2001 – Also,
>How are they getting fresh water?
>How are they bedding down for the night?
>How are they washing/bathing?
>Seen footage on TV; most have no change of clothes; also not carrying toilet paper. Didn’t see pets.
More thoughts?

Karen
Reply to  Madman2001
October 24, 2018 9:53 am

Mexicans are used to “going” anywhere and everywhere. Many do not have running water much less “bathrooms”. Behind a tree is common and acceptable.

stopspending
Reply to  Madman2001
October 24, 2018 9:53 am

“mexicans” are feeding, clothing and taking care of the illegals. Also, NGO are helping. An NGO group helped a small group into the US that included MS13 and other criminals. The last “caravans” were supported by leftist groups mostly funded by soros. You can bet they did not bring enough stuff along with to take care of their needs for the journey, nor when they get to the US. The question is ” who will be taking care of them when they reach the US”> Answer is clear – you and me if you pay taxes, and we will be taking care of them for a long, long, time.

October 22, 2018 11:28 am

That far inland, it will be at most a rain event.

nw sage
Reply to  Stephen Rasey
October 22, 2018 5:23 pm

That is true – but rain like in Houston or rain like in N/S Carolina! If they are walking in the rain (like most of the TV videos show) they are going to get VERY wet.

intrcptr2
October 22, 2018 11:29 am

The media will spin this in an effort to support of the IPCC, because of all these poor people suffering from the climate change that spawned Willa.

Tom in Florida
October 22, 2018 11:31 am

Thanks a lot, now I can’t get that Beach Boys song out of my head….”Wouldn’t it be Nice”

redc1c4
October 22, 2018 11:31 am

are they already that far north?

if so they’re speed marching.

October 22, 2018 11:33 am

If one extends the path Willa is on, it would hit the part of Texas where I live. As we just had significant flooding in the Hill Country, we do not need more rain.

ResourceGuy
October 22, 2018 11:40 am

It’s going to produce massive mudslides if you know anything about that coastal range.

Joe Bastardi
October 22, 2018 11:56 am

That storm will be gone by Thursday morning with upper energy feeding into feature developing over the gulf, They wont be anywhere near there, They just crossed the border 2 days ago
By Thursday am its a non feature in the low levels,

The remnants of Willa will get entrained ( uppper air) into the massive coastal storm in the east this weekend, More likely you are blaming it for snow in the high ground of the northeast

JimG1
Reply to  Joe Bastardi
October 22, 2018 12:50 pm

The map and position timing do look like it is moving very fast.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Joe Bastardi
October 22, 2018 2:21 pm

A question.
Will there be enough rain to damage the transportation infrastructure (roads, bridges etc.) in their path?

Latitude
October 22, 2018 11:59 am

No of course not….no more than it would stop me from going fishing…it’s too far away

Bluecat57
October 22, 2018 12:18 pm

There is a God.

Albert
October 22, 2018 12:21 pm

How far is it from Guatemala to the U.S. border? More than eleventy six miles?

Kevin
Reply to  Albert
October 22, 2018 12:42 pm

From Tapachula (first town in Mexico from Guatemala) to Calzada De Los (town near the Arizona boarder) is 3,645km (2,265 miles), 51 hours by non-stop bus.. At the average walking speed of 3.1 mph that is 730.6 hours, if they walk 12 hours a day, 60 days. Follow the money, 7,000 people could consume $10,000 a day in food, pocket change for Soros. The estimate is based on following the coast to the nearest access point to America.

Albert
Reply to  Kevin
October 22, 2018 12:57 pm

Good answer. Maybe they’ll stop at Mazatlan, the beaches are nice there.

old engineer
Reply to  Kevin
October 22, 2018 4:08 pm

Kevin:
Tapachula is on the west coast of Mexico on the coastal plain. As you pointed out going to Arizona is long walk, plus its hard to stay on the coastal plain. A better way would be cross over to the Caribbean coast and go up to Matamoros. That’s only about 1830 km. (1144 miles), By your calculations that would be 30 days. that’s only $300,000 for food which , as you point out could be easily done.

However, in addition to weather, (not hurricanes, just heat and rain), there are other concerns about moving an undisciplined group that far. What about individual and public health concerns?
Walking a 1000 miles without some plan for good shoes, and clean socks when needed, I can see a lot of people hobbled with blistered feet. Then there is sickness from lack of hygiene.

An army would not try to march that far without a lot of planning and support. This rag tag group seems to have neither.

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  old engineer
October 22, 2018 8:53 pm

They will be going through the Sinaloa drug cartel territory. Even Soros cant guarantee their safety. They better have a federal Mexican police escort or else it could get ugly.

John Tillman
Reply to  old engineer
October 22, 2018 9:08 pm

March spokesmen say they’re headed for California, not Arizona or Texas. And why not? The sanctuary state of CA protects even murderers, so long as they are illegal aliens.

Even if Kate Steinle’s murderer Zarate in the sanctuary city of SF were telling the truth, ie that her fatal shooting were an accident, how is discharging a firearm in the direction of human beings not manslaughter? Were I to kill someone accidentally with my car, am I not guilty of involuntary, vehicular manslaughter?

Illegal immigrant José Inez García Zárate, aka Juan Francisco López-Sánchez, of Guanajuato, Mexico, was deported from the US five times, most recently in 2009. He was on probation in Texas at the time of the 2015 shooting. He had seven felony convictions. When apprehended, Zarate was listed as 45 years old by police, but as 52 in jail records. Why was this violent felon in the country, let alone protected by the mayor now likely to be elected governor of the once great state of CA?

The murderer was convicted only of a firearms violation. There is no justice in SF, but lots of caca en las calles.

Nash
October 22, 2018 12:21 pm

Rename it to hurricane Trump

J Mac
October 22, 2018 12:22 pm
JBom
October 22, 2018 12:26 pm

Sort of reminds me of the ending of the movie “War of the Worlds” both ’50s and ’00s when the machines all stopped and the voice over gives an explanation that they were stopped by microbes that the invader’s metabolism had no immunity.

Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Bloomberg Philanthropies, Soros Foundations and UNESCO may be spending several fortunes, to get them to the border a few days ahead of 6 November — with DNC help, but they forget about hygiene! So, many and perhaps most of the “horde” my be dead before and not long after the hurricane passes.

Fitting.

bonbon
Reply to  JBom
October 22, 2018 1:29 pm

Exactly!

Phillip Bratby
October 22, 2018 12:30 pm

It wouldn’t be the first time in history that an invading force has been defeated by the weather.

Rene Robert Acosta
Reply to  Phillip Bratby
October 23, 2018 9:02 pm

Actually, Field Marshal Von Pauolus German 6th Army was stopped 20 Miles outside of Moscow in the winter of 1941. You can include Napoleans Army also.
Just sayin.

Tony
October 22, 2018 12:38 pm

Look up the Soros funded “Open Society Foundations”…of course there can be no criticism of the organization because it is…charity 😉

JimG1
October 22, 2018 12:45 pm

The dimocrats always have an October surprise. I’m wondering if this caravan is it for this election or if there is more to come. Russia maybe? This planned and leftwing supported invasion may have the opposite effect than what they think.

David A
Reply to  JimG1
October 22, 2018 1:45 pm

It is difficult to see how a mob is going to help the Democratic Party in this November’s elections. Jobs not mobs is already a political thing that the statist hate

Gunga Din
Reply to  David A
October 22, 2018 2:13 pm

I think the Dems are hoping for a violent response (or at least a response that could be spun to be violent) from the troops sent to protect the US border just before the election.
If the aftermath of Willa slows them down enough … purpose failed. Funding dries up.
(They see these people as cannon fodder.)

n.n
Reply to  Gunga Din
October 22, 2018 2:22 pm

Political fodder, certainly. Just like the migrants from Libya, Syria, etc. through Turkey, across the Mediterranean, air lifted to the US, along the modern-day “trail of tears”, and, of course, the men, women, and children left behind. Immigration reform in lieu of emigration reform for special and peculiar interests, and political progress

Shuah
October 22, 2018 1:48 pm

Trump causes hurricanes, so this proves that Trump is a racist.

n.n
October 22, 2018 2:18 pm

If not Americans, then Nature will call Mexico’s bluff, and force them in the near-term to provide humanitarian aid to the migrants, and a pursue a good neighbor policy south of their border that promotes emigration reform.

Robert Stewart
October 22, 2018 2:26 pm

One aspect of our foreign policy is that it is almost always framed with little or no knowledge of our adversaries’ intentions. This is normally excused by a reign of terror that makes it difficult and dangerous to develop human sources in those benighted lands. The fact that we apparently have no information on who is feeding this mob and paying them to walk several thousand miles suggests that the rot in the CIA is much deeper and far reaching than we might have guessed. How difficult would it be to put ten or fifteen vacationers along the path of the march to take pictures of the buses and food trucks that must be working long hours to feed the mob? How difficult would it be to track the financial transactions that pay for these services?

In a functioning constitutional Republic, the intelligence agencies of the government would already know who is paying for this demonstration, and that information would be given to the administration to do with as it thinks best. But in our post-Obama world, it is likely the case that some remote branch of the CIA is a actually a cosponsor, with no interest in exposing the financial interests that created this mob. Mike Pompeo needs to start asking some hard question and demanding answers. And Trump needs to hold Pompeo accountable.

Richard Patton
Reply to  Robert Stewart
October 23, 2018 4:07 pm

Really? You really think our adversaries wouldn’t be doing the best to obfusticate their intentions? And you really think that a properly functioning republic (not a democracy for democracy=mob rule) knows exactly what their enemies are up to? What are you smoking?

Robert Stewart
Reply to  Richard Patton
October 23, 2018 11:23 pm

If our CIA can’t figure out who’s paying for the food, shelter, and (later) transportation by rail, then what can they do? I’ve noticed that at some of the Black Lives Matter riots, the press published photos of miles of charter buses that brought the rioters into the city. Each bus had a license plate, and any law enforcement agency could have determined the person paying to bring the rioters into the city by subpoenaing charter companies’ records. That fact that the public blithely presumed that these riots were spontaneous and local says much about their willingness to suspend disbelief. What are you smoking that makes it seem reasonable that 14,000 marchers “fleeing poverty and oppression” can exist without food, water, and shelter for several weeks? When 20,000 were housed in the football stadium in New Orleans following Katerina, the press pretended that their experience was dire and horrible. How is it that 14,000 “children” can be marching for days without sustenance and yet suffer no consequences? How do you hide feeding 14,000 “children”? Something is very wrong if the CIA can’t figure this out.

Colin
October 22, 2018 2:30 pm

So how are 7000 “poor” migrants marching a 34 @24 hours a day hike in such a short time? Where is the support and money coming from?

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  Colin
October 22, 2018 10:41 pm

They hop out of buses to walk whenever cameras and news reporters are seen.

JimG1
October 22, 2018 4:16 pm

More democrat voters, legal or not, to help turn our country into the same type of schist hole as they left. Why don’t they spend all of this energy fixing their home land? All those msm media types need to move to these countries these caravan people are leaving and complain about the government like they’re doing here. See what happens when you have the type of country they are attempting to change ours into.

Bob Davis
October 22, 2018 4:20 pm

The train route which is what will eventually be used (and allowed by Mexican officials) goes east of the predicted bad weather paralleling the Gulf Coast. It has been the route of previous Soros funded “children’s crusades”.

I agree that we should not take out our frustrations on Americans of Hispanic descent. There are many solid citizens like Ted Cruz who want to see the rule of law prevail. If this is going to be stopped it will be up President Trump to shut down the border. The resulting pain (which will be felt on both sides unfortunately) should persuade Mexico to treat these illegals (into their country) like they normally do rather than pretend they are powerless to do anything to look good in the eyes of the left wing media.

October 22, 2018 4:44 pm

Just like the Media loved the Police versius the Greens in their Rubbia Duckies over the Tasmanian “Gordon below Franklin” Green protest about the proposed Hydro, the USA is now facing a Media eveent as the Troops try to stop this caravan. Expect to see the Mothers holding theore babies aloft. And of course all the USA Bleeding Hearts will be there for the cameras.

Its a invasion and if it suceeeds then expect lots more to come from the overppulated South American countries.

MJE o

Tom Abbott
October 22, 2018 4:57 pm

President Trump has the constitutional authority to deny entry into the United States to any and all aliens.

I wonder if he will use this authority.

Of course, there will be federal judges who will rule he cannot do that, but they will be overruled by the U.S. Supreme Court because the U.S. Constitution couldn’t be more clear: The president has the authority to deny entry to any alien or group of aliens for any reason he deems sufficient.

If the Republicans retain control of both Houses of Congress then right after the election in November, Congress will be introducing new immigration legislation that will fix the loopholes that now encourage thousands of illegal aliens to come to the United States illegally.

John Tillman
Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 22, 2018 5:11 pm

The US government doesn’t know how many illegal aliens are in the country, whether 12 million, 24 million or 36 million. There appear to be about eight million illegal immigrants in the civilian labor force, but that estimate could well be too low.

Trump’s recent estimate of 30 to 34 million illegals is probably high, IMO. However, if the work force figure be accurate, a guess of 24 million becomes plausible, with 2/3 of illegal immigrants either children too young to work, adults on public assistance or engaged in criminal activities, whether violent or not.

https://www.heritage.org/immigration/commentary/what-the-media-wont-tell-you-about-illegal-immigration-and-criminal-activity

The sheriff, now retired, of my rural Intermountain West county sued the federal government for the cost of keeping so many illegal aliens in jail.

Ramona Ennis
Reply to  Tom Abbott
October 24, 2018 6:06 pm

Agree completely. I feel sorry for the people in this MOB that are being used for a political ideology, which is despicable. Not all of them are innocently being used though. Probably most are complicit.

October 22, 2018 5:23 pm

One-and-one-half feet of rain and 150 mph winds “might” slow down a migrant caravan?

October 22, 2018 5:23 pm

Cat 5 up Mexico, and there will be no roads to drive or walk north on.

October 22, 2018 5:37 pm

Regarding the millions of illegal alians already working in the USA, do what Australia did many years ago Make it a offence to employ a person without them being registered for income tax.

Also illegals here are not entitled to social welfare benifits, they hve to be properly registered before receiving anything, so o f course they do not.

We do have illegals working in Sweeat shops, usually run by their legal fellow countrymen, but they get raided and deported.

Any illegal is in effeect a 5 th coloumest, intent in the long run of taking control of the country. Alloow settlement of millions and some politicians will say it is too big a problem and try to legalise therir status.

MJE

John Tillman
Reply to  Michael
October 22, 2018 5:52 pm

In the US, any person, group of persons, business, organization or local government commits a federal felony when hem she or they:

1) assists an alien whom he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering or assisting him to obtain employment,
2) encourages that alien to remain in the U.S., by referring him to an employer, by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or
3) knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.

Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime.

Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.

http://www.fairus.org/issue/illegal-immigration/law-against-hiring-or-harboring-illegal-aliens

Businesses hiring illegals are often raided by the feds, but it makes little difference.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Michael
October 23, 2018 4:24 am

yeah well we are still getting waaay many immigrants, not all useful-how we are to house feed and supply water education etc to them when we couldnt /can’t do that for our own?
thanks to krudd,n juLiar

John Tillman
October 22, 2018 5:55 pm

Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen warned Sunday that the illegal immigrant caravan heading toward the U.S. could be exploited by cartels that control most of the illegal flow of people through Latin America.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/21/kirstjen-nielsen-warns-cartels-role-migrant-carava/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork

A bonanza for human traffickers. Maybe for terrorists, too. Lots of those in the lawless Triple Frontier area of South America (Argentina, Brazil and Paraguay).

October 22, 2018 6:38 pm

Looks very much like the invasion Europe faced a year or so back when Comrade Merkel obligingly opened the door to around a million military age, male, Muslims. I doubt Trump would be that stupid.
The US Navy TC Warning Graphic seems to be predicting wind gusts of around 100 KN at landfall which I gather is around a Saffir-Simpson Category 3?
http://tinypic.com/r/11qn0qu/9

John Tillman
October 22, 2018 7:27 pm

Trump said today that he would send as many troops to the border as needed to stop the caravan. Questionable reports say that he has selected elements of the Active Army, ie the 82nd Airborne (NC) and 1st Armored (TX) Divisions, for this mission.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-vows-to-send-as-many-troops-as-necessary-to-keep-growing-migrant-caravan-out

Numbers are likely to swell even more as the caravan travels north. The would be immigrants say they’re headed for sanctuary state CA rather than AZ or TX. No mention of New Mexico.

Lethal force is not an option. Even water cannon deployed against the women and children sure to be in the first ranks are probably out of the question. End to end armored vehicles might not be, however. Maybe even concertina wire. Hope it doesn’t come to such extremities. But without borders, a nation is not a sovereign state.

Louis Hunt
October 22, 2018 7:33 pm

Why is it that illegal aliens from south of the border are welcomed by Democrats and even invited to interfere in our elections by participating in political rallies and speaking at the DNC convention, while Russia nationals who come here are hated by Democrats who seek to punish any Republican who so much as talks to them? It seems awfully contradictory and racist to me.

October 22, 2018 10:37 pm

Most of these commenters apparently must never have suffered through a hurricane. Storm surge is the biggest worry. This storm is predicted to have a deadly storm surge. Damage takes forever to repair. Roads and bridges will be washed out, leaving evacuees no way out. No food, water, or shelter will be available.

ozspeaksup
Reply to  chris
October 23, 2018 4:26 am

well thatd be soros problem seeing hes most likely well n truly the instigator.
same as in eu

October 22, 2018 11:50 pm

As previously stated who is financing th is massive operation . ?

Trump must have manpower available to find out. Check on the transport required should make it possible to find out who is paying. This is a “Dry run”for the future, let this one suceeed and it will be repeated. The sheer mass of people is a smugglers dream, far better than the few “Wetbacks” over the river.

But it has also got to be consdereed as a Media exercise, in a attempt to affect the Mid term elections.

As for Mexico, don’t expect any help from them, they are a part of the problem.

MJE

Brenda DeBerry
Reply to  Michael
October 24, 2018 10:09 am

SOROS and the dems are paying for all of this to get elections. there’s your answer

Barry
October 23, 2018 2:56 am

The people in this caravan are being used by forces unknown to fulfil and agenda that has no interest in their ultimate fate. Unfortunately they do not realise this.

Bill In Oz
October 23, 2018 6:09 am

Just CLOSE the border completely. No bloody entry means no incentive.

Dead simple folks.

Wornhall
Reply to  Bill In Oz
October 24, 2018 7:54 pm

Exactamente!

beng135
October 23, 2018 7:39 am

It’s not a caravan, it’s a mob.

Paul
October 23, 2018 11:20 am

It’s about time Israel chipped in and helped the USA ; nice work on seeding that hurricane, dudes. You are right on time to protect your favorite nation !!

John Tillman
October 23, 2018 11:30 pm

It appears that, as Joe Bastardi predicted, the main effect of Willa so far has been to bathe the marchers, cool them off and soothe their sore feet. To the extent that they have actually walked, as opposed to being bused by their US backers.

MJB
October 24, 2018 9:51 am

Do they realize it gets freezing cold up here in the winter?

October 24, 2018 10:47 am

This is good news helping to slow down the onslaught of invasionaries!

Ronald Won
October 24, 2018 10:52 am

GOD is in control of everything. Thrump is annointed by GOD to turn America around from GOD’s wrath. Wake up before it is too late. Anyone against Trump is against GOD ! Read
the Bible

October 24, 2018 10:58 am

God Almighty does work in mysterious ways, just as they brought the plug to the Egyptians when Cheryl tried to smite god Farrell got what he asked for. 01 has to do is understand this caravan of people are being sponsored by communist you or trying to overthrow of this country namely one George Soros is just one and most of them are 90% man young man capable of rape robbery and murder and theft

Randall Fleming
October 24, 2018 10:59 am

Who has the most to gain? Donald Trump and the big money machines behind the Republican party. So Donald will stoop to no low to get his wall.

Big George D
October 24, 2018 12:43 pm

So, After the first invasion wave of 10,000 Illegal Immigrants/future Liberals get through the open border, then there will be the 2nd and 3rd and 4th waves and on and on, wave after wave. We won’t be able to stop them as that would be considered Racist by the Libs. Invasion to Invasion to the tens of millions bringing their Flags and culture and Burning ours. Can you imagine that we hard working Americans will be forced to feed, clothe, house, provide medical care, educate, and build infrastructure to support this uncontrolled illegal invasion. My God our Country will be GONE. I know that not not all of them are criminals but how do you separate the good from the bad? Can you imagine that some of them will be bringing crime and drugs here to destroy our children. But if your a Liberal, Take heart; The Dem’s will be so happy knowing that all these future illegal immigrants will become Democrat voters and will give them total power over our Country for the next several hundred years. Hereby creating a one Party rule over all of us while pretending we are still a 2 Party Democracy. Our Freedom will be gone, our constitution ripped to shreds and discarded. This isn’t because of Trump. Brash as he is; he is a true American and trying like Hell to save our Butts. ; this Slow moving Socialist takeover of America has been going on for decades. Now it’s in full swing. You want to save this Country? BUILD THE DAM WALL NOW and vote these Destructive Socialists out of Power.

John Tillman
October 25, 2018 12:15 pm

Whoever organized this invasion is an international criminal and should be hunted down by Interpol.

The caravan puts children at grave risk. Besides road hazards, hunger, uncleanliness, exhaustion and dehydration, threats include exposure to the elements (unless shelter be arranged every night), scorpions, snakes, coyotes (which grab toddlers), vector-borne diseases and those communicated person to person, and the danger of kidnapping by the Sinaloa cartel.

Child endangerment on this scale can’t be allowed to go unpunished.

John Tillman
Reply to  John Tillman
October 25, 2018 2:26 pm

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sickness-fear-harassment-mexico-whittle-040407939.html

Report of the weariest, weakest and sickest dropping out. As more older men, women and children give up, leaving a higher proportion of military-age males, the caravan will take on even more of the aspect of an invasion.

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