Proposal: Geo-engineered glacier control to limit sea level rise

From the European Geosciences Union and the “we can stop that glacier in its tracks, cold. Trust us.” department comes this wacky geoengineering idea. I think these folks don’t understand what the scope of engineering something like this would actually be.

Glacial engineering could limit sea-level rise, if we get our emissions under control

Targeted engineering projects to hold off glacier melting could slow down the collapse of ice sheets and limit sea-level rise, according to a new study published in the European Geosciences Union journal The Cryosphere. While an intervention similar in size to existing large civil engineering projects could only have a 30% chance of success, a larger project would have better odds of holding off ice-sheet collapse. But study authors Michael Wolovick and John Moore caution that reducing emissions still remains key to stopping climate change and its dramatic effects.

This is a crevassed ice seen on the Thwaites Ice Shelf in October 2012. CREDIT NASA/J. Yungel

“Doing geoengineering means often considering the unthinkable,” says Moore, a scientist at Beijing Normal University, China, and a professor of climate change at the University of Lapland, Finland. The term ‘geoengineering’ is usually applied to large-scale interventions to combat climate change. But instead of trying to change the entire climate, Wolovick and Moore say we could apply a more targeted approach to limit one of the most drastic consequences of climate change: sea-level rise.

Their “unthinkable” idea is glacial geoengineering: making changes to the geometry of the seafloor near glaciers that flow into the ocean, forming an ice shelf, to prevent them from melting further. Some glaciers, such as the Britain- or Florida-sized Thwaites ice stream in West Antarctica, are retreating fast. “Thwaites could easily trigger a runaway [West Antarctic] ice sheet collapse that would ultimately raise global sea level by about 3 metres,” explains Wolovick, a researcher at Princeton University’s Department of Geosciences, US. This could have dramatic effects to the millions of people living in the world’s coastal areas.

Instead of, or in addition to, limiting the effects of rising seas through traditional coastal protection, using glacier geoengineering to stop the flood at the source could be a viable option, as Wolovick and Moore show. “The most important result [of our study] is that a meaningful ice sheet intervention is broadly within the order of magnitude of plausible human achievements,” says Wolovick.

The team looked into two glacial-geoengineering designs. One idea would be to build a wall underwater to block warm water reaching an ice shelf’s base, which is very sensitive to melting. A simpler design consists of constructing artificial mounds or columns on the seafloor: they wouldn’t block warm water but could support and hold back the glacier, helping it regrow. “In either case, we were imagining very simple structures, simply piles of sand or gravel on the ocean floor,” says Wolovick.

The team ran computer models where they applied these designs to Thwaites Glacier in a warming world. Thwaites is projected to be the largest individual source of future sea-level rise and, at 80 to 100 km wide, it’s one of the widest glaciers in the world. “If [glacial geoengineering] works there then we would expect it to work on less challenging glaciers as well,” the authors write in The Cryosphere study.

The research shows that even the simpler design could slow down the rate of sea-level rise, giving more time to coastal societies to adapt to rising waters. The smallest intervention has a 30% probability of preventing a runaway collapse of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet for the foreseeable future, according to the models. This intervention would consist of building isolated 300-metre-high mounds or columns on the seafloor using between 0.1 and 1.5 cubic kilometres of aggregate, depending on the strength of the material. This is similar to the amount of material that was excavated to build the Suez Canal in Egypt (1 cubic kilometre) or used in Dubai’s Palm Islands (0.3 cubic kilometres).

A more sophisticated project, going beyond the scale humanity has attempted so far, would have higher chances of success in avoiding a runaway ice-sheet collapse within the next 1000 years (the time the simulations run for), as well as better odds of causing the ice sheet to regain mass. A small underwater wall blocking about 50% of warm water from reaching the ice shelf base could have 70% chance of succeeding, while larger walls would be even more likely to delay or even stop ice-sheet collapse.

Despite the encouraging results, the scientists say they don’t advocate starting these ambitious projects any time soon. While the simplest design would be similar in scale to existing engineering projects, it would be built in one of Earth’s harshest environments. So, the engineering details still need to be worked out. Nonetheless, the team wanted to see whether glacial geoengineering could work in theory, and wanted to get the scientific community to think about, and improve on, the designs.

“We all understand that we have an urgent professional obligation to determine how much sea level rise society should expect, and how fast that sea level rise is likely to come. However, we would argue that there is also an obligation to try to come up with ways that society could protect itself against a rapid ice-sheet collapse,” says Wolovick.

Ice physics shows glacial geoengineering could work to hold off ice-sheet collapse, but both Wolovick and Moore are adamant that reducing greenhouse-gas emissions remains a priority in the fight against climate change. “There are dishonest elements of society that will try to use our research to argue against the necessity of emissions’ reductions. Our research does not in any way support that interpretation,” they say.

Engineering glaciers would only limit sea-level rise, while reducing emissions could also limit other harmful consequences of climate change, such as ocean acidification, floods, droughts and heat waves. In addition, the team points out that more warming would mean glacial engineering projects would become less feasible and would have lower chances of success. After all, their underwater structures might protect the bottom of the ice shelves, but wouldn’t prevent warm air from eating away the ice at the top.

“The more carbon we emit, the less likely it becomes that the ice sheets will survive in the long term at anything close to their present volume,” Wolovick concludes.

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The publication at The Cryosphere https://www.the-cryosphere.net/12/2955/2018

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Wiliam Haas
September 20, 2018 8:29 pm

But the reality is that, based on the paleoclimate record and the work done with models, the climate change we are experiencing today is caused by the sun and the oceans over which mankind has no control. Despite the hype, there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and plenty of scientific rational that the climate sensitivity of CO2 is zero.

Where are they are going to get the material from and how much is the project going to cost and who is going to pay for it? They would have to get the material from the ocean floor somewhere. Adding material from dry land to the ocean floor will itself rise sea levels. They also have to make sure that their operation will not make use of fossil fuels. How long will all of this take? If they wait long enough, the next ice age will start to take hold and sea levels will start to fall as new ice sheets are formed on the continents.

SAMURAI
September 20, 2018 8:36 pm

The Left has gone bonkers…

In 2015, NASA finally admitted Antarctic Land Ice has been INCREASING by 80~100 billion tons per year since ICESAT data became available in 1992:

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses

Of course CAGW advocates hated this admission of reality, so they came up with a mo’ bedda study showing Antarctic Land Ice continues to….”decrease at an alarming rate”…

All evidence shows Eastern Antarctica is gaining Land Ice Mass, while Western Antarctica is losing Land Ice Mass due to volcanic activity….

Regardless, all empirical evidence show Antarctic Land Ice Mass is increasing, which explains why Sea Level Rise has been stuck at around 8″/century since the end of the LIA in 1820 (regardless of CO2 levels), and this century will be about the same.

CAGW’s insane 3 meter/Century SLR projection is pure fantasy designed to scare the aggressively ignorant Left..

In about 5 years, global temps will noticeably begin to cool as the PDO, AMO and NAO will all be in their respective 30-year cool cycles, and a 50-year Grand Solar Minimum starting from 2021, which likely add to the global cooling.

CAGW is dead.

As the PDO/AMO/NAO ocean cycles cool, Arctic Sea Ice Extents will slowly begin to recover, which is why 8 out of the past 11 years, Arctic Summer Minimums were higher than 2007… This trend will continue and to increase and slowly accelerate as ocean cycles continue to cool over the next 30+ years..

Within 5 years, CAGW will be laughed at, and inane “scientific” studies like this geo-engineering fiasco will end because they won’t pass the giggle test…

Craig from Oz
September 20, 2018 11:21 pm

“Doing geoengineering means often considering the unthinkable,” says Moore,

I am guessing that one of those ‘unthinkable’ things isn’t trying to obtain a successful professional career in the private sector.

I have also over the last few years been becoming more and more convinced that the prime purpose of higher education is to keep the unemployable somewhere safe where they can’t bugger up life for the rest of us for a few more years. Almost every word of this article simply flies in the face of reason, logic and sound engineering principles.

For example “So, the engineering details still need to be worked out.”

In other words they have absolutely not idea how to make it work. To turn their thought processes on their heads, what if I was to say we should build a self sustaining colony in orbit around Venus? It would improve long term human development, and while the engineering details still need to be worked out, I feel the scientific community needs to think about it and pay attention to my grand idea.

Junk.

September 21, 2018 1:33 am

Arctic ice at minimum.
NSIDC and DMI show it to be probably near to or at minimum.
Jansen shows both extent and area have passed minimum.

fretslider
September 21, 2018 2:14 am

Beijing Normal University

I think these people visit as many lunatic asylums as they can for their research.

ferd berple
September 21, 2018 4:49 am

Looking at US tide charts, there is zero evidence that the change in sea levels is related to human activity. What is happening is completely natural. The earth today is warmer than when the ice froze during the last ice age and the LIA. It hasn’t yet reached equilibrium. To stop this process you would need to geoengineer another mini ice age.

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Ve2
September 21, 2018 11:01 am

It doesn’t really matter if they can’t stop the glaciers from shrinking as long as they get a couple of hundred million for a feasibility study.

Robert from oz
September 21, 2018 5:18 pm

OT but related , the seed bank is under threat from globull warming .

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-22/doomsday-vault-to-plug-leak-caused-by-climate-change/10291928

Not Chicken Little
September 21, 2018 6:52 pm

Hmmm…if I recall correctly, glaciers carved the Great Lakes out of the bedrock, and many thousands of other smaller lakes too. Do you suppose these scientists are ignorant of that, or, being university types, have unlimited faith in engineers to build structures that will stop them but have not actually consulted any to get some input on their ideas?

September 26, 2018 2:50 am

It’s models all the way down.