You’ve heard of “the third degree”? Now you can have “the Mann degree”

From the “I’m going to need a barf bag” department. Dr. Michael Mann comes up with his own degree program.

UNIVERSITY PARK, Pa. — Climate science is a field devoted to the study of Earth’s climate in the past, present and future. Understanding the Earth’s future climate is vital, and in response Penn State has established a new dual-title doctoral program in climate science.

“In the past, climate science was often viewed as this niche field, but it’s starting to become integrated with everything else because climate impacts are pervasive,” said Michael Mann, distinguished professor of atmospheric science and program coordinator. “Climate change is affecting our food and water supplies, coastal management and national security, and every other facet of our built and natural environment.”

Expertise in climate science is relevant across many disciplines, and Mann said this program was developed to meet the increasing demand for climate information.

“Having a degree in climate science is germane to so many fields now; it’s important in private industry or in fields focused on risk management like insurance and reinsurance,” said Mann. “Having a background in climate science is a real plus, and it will make our graduates more attractive for jobs in industry, as well as positions in academia, government and nongovernmental organizations.”

Administered by the College of Earth and Mineral Sciences’ Department of Meteorology and Atmospheric Science, a particular focus of the program is on understanding the impact of human activities on climate and understanding and predicting natural climate variation.

The program will provide a rich curriculum in climate dynamics and observations, numerical and statistical methods, the physical climate system, biogeochemistry, and human dimensions of climate change to ensure that all students have a broad and deep understanding of the science and its application to society.

“Not only will graduates have expanded employment opportunities, they will be the new generation of leaders trained to help society prepare for and adapt to the Earth’s changing climate,” said David Stensrud, head and professor of meteorology and atmospheric science.

There are more than 40 faculty from five colleges associated with the climate science program.

“We’ve had an increasingly strong presence in the Department of Meteorology and Atmospheric Science and elsewhere around Penn State in climate science. We literally have hundreds of researchers across the University working on various aspects of climate science,” said Mann.

Students electing this degree program will earn a doctorate with a dual-title in the participating program and in climate science. The graduate program in meteorology and atmospheric sciences currently offers the program but additional graduate programs are expected to offer the dual-title program in the future.

“This new program addresses what is arguably the greatest challenge we face today — the challenge of mitigating and adapting to climate change,” said Mann.

For more information about the program visit http://www.met.psu.edu/academics/graduate-studies/climate-science-dual-title-phd-program and https://bulletins.psu.edu/graduate/programs/majors/climate-science/.

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August 31, 2018 12:05 pm

Egotistical little twat.

Latitude
Reply to  HotScot
August 31, 2018 12:22 pm

“Penn State has established a new dual-title doctoral program”…

to replace their Remedial Underwater Binary Puppeteering program

Reply to  Latitude
August 31, 2018 5:21 pm

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Kenji
Reply to  Latitude
August 31, 2018 7:12 pm

Puppeteering of their own Mannly appendages

Alan the Brit
Reply to  HotScot
September 1, 2018 1:32 am

Not sure he’s that much of mann, socall him a twatette!

Bruce Cobb
August 31, 2018 12:06 pm

He wants to create an army of Manni-Mes.

Curious George
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
August 31, 2018 12:23 pm

Rev. Al Gore missed this opportunity. His followers should join immediately. Also he himself could earn this very academic degree.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Curious George
August 31, 2018 12:40 pm

With his GPA, I very much doubt Al could qualify. After all, this is not directly a Cli Sci degree, but an adjunct to separate, established discipline.

Bill Powers
Reply to  Curious George
August 31, 2018 2:28 pm

To D.J.’s point it would have to be honorary as The ALGORE pencil is not sharp enough to pass the course required even for this science degree for dummies program.

Kenji
Reply to  Bruce Cobb
August 31, 2018 7:16 pm

Ha! … and they mock Trump University. Talk about your useless degree. And BTW … the Trump Univ. tuition is a BARGAIN by comparison to this dumbed-down, access-for-all, sub-qualified, “college” student … required “education” debt.

Reply to  Kenji
August 31, 2018 7:26 pm

Trump University was shut down because it was a fraud.

Kenji
Reply to  C. Paul Pierett
August 31, 2018 8:10 pm

Wrong. Shut down by dirty politics

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  Kenji
August 31, 2018 9:12 pm

Please explain

Reply to  Alan Tomalty
September 1, 2018 12:55 pm

Some where in the files of ” useless information”, but might be needed in a climate argument, is a story a about a guy that went to Harvard and was selling his degree online, E Bay. I know plenty of people that went to the schools councilors with the idea that if they got this degree or that, companies would be knocking down your door to hire you at some amount of money that you could, not only repay the ridiculous sum you borrowed, but live very well…. that didn’t happen. Much like the Catastrophic Global Warming.

Reply to  C. Paul Pierett
September 1, 2018 9:08 am

Harvard didnt get shut down! Dual standards are unconstitutional.

Tom Halla
August 31, 2018 12:07 pm

At least this program is more appropriate for ambitious bureaucrats than Environmental Health Engineering, which Obama’s last EPA administrator, Gina McCarthy, had a masters in.

Alan the Brit
Reply to  Tom Halla
September 1, 2018 1:36 am

As a Chartered Structural Engineer, I bitterly resent the glib casual sticking & gluing of the term Engineering to all & sundry half-baked degree courses! The classic of course is Social Engineering! It should be named Social Manipulation!

rocketscientist
Reply to  Alan the Brit
September 1, 2018 7:47 am

Maybe I should change my degree and title to Rocket Manipulator? Nope! that just sounds too smarmy, like some tyrant with a few dangerous weapons.

Yeah, I too cringe when trash truck drivers are called ‘sanitation engineers’.

But, at one time the medical profession was practiced, at best crudely due to the limited knowledge of it time, by barbers who acted as field surgeons (hence the barber pole). When actual medical study began in earnest, these more learned men wanting separate themselves from the ‘barbers’ adopted the title of ‘doctor’ from the academics and doctors of philosophy of that time. And now they feel entitled to claim the title as their own, as all other doctors aren’t real doctors.

Gary
August 31, 2018 12:12 pm

Will Kenji apply?

Reply to  Gary
August 31, 2018 1:08 pm

Kenji will probably be treated like the Asian applicants at Harvard – if you are much smarter than the median applicant, then your odds of being accepted are actually reduced.

If Kenji really wants a climate science degree, then he should also apply to a “safety” school!

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Pillage Idiot
August 31, 2018 3:09 pm

Kenji will produce a brilliant and informative chart using pee-rings as a proxy for evaporation, as a proxy for temperature. The “pee-mometer” will be all the rage in dog-land.

Some pee-ring data may have to be deleted to maintain the high “marks” required of the good professor.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
August 31, 2018 4:44 pm

I suspect Kenji’s owner will have to clean up after his degree.

Reply to  Crispin in Waterloo
August 31, 2018 6:36 pm

But would his work be pee(r) reviewed?

Will his charts look like a dog’s hind leg, similar to a hockey stick?

Would he over-emphasise bark in his treemometer work?

Kenji
Reply to  Gary
August 31, 2018 7:17 pm

Surely you are not speaking of ME?

Bryan A
Reply to  Kenji
August 31, 2018 9:59 pm

He’s not speaking of you and don’t call him Shirley

Bryan A
Reply to  Bryan A
August 31, 2018 10:04 pm

Kenji is Mr Watts’ dog, a Japanese Chin and card carrying member of the Union of Concerned Scientists
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/10/07/friday-funny-the-newest-member-of-the-union-of-concerned-scientists/

Pop Piasa
Reply to  Bryan A
September 1, 2018 10:17 am

I once knew a guy with a Japanese chin, but he had Chinese eyes. 😁
Here’s the theme song of the UCS.

Chuck L
August 31, 2018 12:12 pm

Splicing Instrument Data On To Tree Ring Data 401 is a required course. So is Discarding Data That Refutes Your Hypothesis 420.

Reply to  Chuck L
August 31, 2018 12:27 pm

Grimhouse Fearing 097 will be an introductory course for all freshmen/freshpersons/freshmyn/?

R. Shearer
Reply to  Chuck L
August 31, 2018 1:00 pm

And advanced Photoshop.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  R. Shearer
August 31, 2018 4:45 pm

And how not to use unsecured FTP sites.

Taphonomic
Reply to  Chuck L
September 1, 2018 10:11 am

There will be a special seminar on ad hominem attacks and blustering when it is pointed out that you used data upside-down.

roaddog
Reply to  Chuck L
September 1, 2018 8:43 pm

Chuck, that is Epic. Take the rest of the weekend off.

gnomish
August 31, 2018 12:13 pm

infested. call terminix.

August 31, 2018 12:14 pm

The quote from Stensrud begins, “Not only will graduates have expanded employment opportunities…”

Shouldn’t that read, Not only will graduates have expended employment opportunities…?

Ciao

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
August 31, 2018 3:11 pm

I believe they are establishing a data “processing” centre in Guantanamo Bay.

philincalifornia
Reply to  Bob Tisdale
August 31, 2018 9:11 pm

There are many fields of human endeavor where having a good education in how to lie and cheat, and fabricate data are a prerequisite. They’ll be fine.

Bill
Reply to  philincalifornia
September 1, 2018 11:48 am

We typically call them politicians, not scientists or engineers!

Reply to  Bob Tisdale
September 1, 2018 9:22 am

The early ones got bank teller jobs but this employment is on the way out replaced by robots. Mann offers employment advice: they could become insurance and reinsurance salesmen … er girls, no…saleslgtbqwertyrens?^

August 31, 2018 12:16 pm

I wonder if Mann plans to collaborate with Penn State’s Geology Department, the field of science able to demonstrate (scientifically without the need for political considerations) that any current changes to our climate have occurred countless times in both recent and distant pasts?

Bsl
Reply to  Kamikazedave
August 31, 2018 3:13 pm

Mann doesn’t plan to collaborate with the Geology department, he plans to co-opt the Geology department and make it his new ally.

Dan Sudlik
Reply to  Kamikazedave
August 31, 2018 3:52 pm

Who in the world made Mann a distinguished anything?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Dan Sudlik
August 31, 2018 4:46 pm

“Who in the world made Mann a distinguished anything?”

State Penn?

Vince
Reply to  Dan Sudlik
August 31, 2018 5:05 pm

At Penn State the professor is nominated to be considered for distinguished professor by a fellow professor. A committee of fellow professors considers whether he is qualified and they have a vote. A limited number become distinguished. Basically his fellow professors at Penn State think like he does.

Robert Stewart
Reply to  Vince
September 1, 2018 7:21 am

But he doesn’t even play football!

Reply to  Dan Sudlik
September 1, 2018 9:24 am

He does distinguish himself every day.

Kenji
Reply to  Kamikazedave
August 31, 2018 7:25 pm

Nope. He WILL, however, be collaborating with the African Studies Dept. … since all the poor 3rd world African people ovvvvv culllller … have been SEVEREly impacted by capitalism-driven-climate change. Mann-degree graduates will be calculating $$$$$ the amount of “mitigation” needed to “offset” white Euro-guilt. The intersectionality of the Socialist Econ Dept. and Mann-degree Dept. is strong.

Ralph Knapp
August 31, 2018 12:18 pm

Michael Mann and his disciples of climate doom using the “unbiased” Mann climate computer models for teaching his version of climate change. What could possibly go wrong?

Gerard O'Dowd
Reply to  Ralph Knapp
September 1, 2018 3:55 pm

I would fear the potential for a psychotic breakdown of Mann’s students at some point when the GCM nth version fails to predict the slow rise, complete halt or fall in GT any better than GCM version 1.0 or when the super computer Siri voiced AI version tells them to include the data for the Latin Optimum, MWP and LIA that the next LIA is imminent.

John Harmsworth
August 31, 2018 12:19 pm

Pre-requistes are:

Funny math
Communicating in false urgency
Cherry picking
Political gamesmanship
Amorality

As a final test, students will be required to look at themselves in the mirror without throwing up

Reply to  John Harmsworth
August 31, 2018 12:30 pm

Equivocation 557
Hand Waving 101
Ad Hominem Argumentation 225
Conflational Principles 333
Authority Appealing 666
Basics Of Consensus Science 202
Computer Reality Modeling 000

Field Experience Requirement: NONE

CCB
Reply to  Robert Kernodle
August 31, 2018 2:03 pm

Maybe Add:
Confabulatory CONfirmation Bias

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Robert Kernodle
August 31, 2018 3:13 pm

Global governance 101 and 421 (no need to work about all that boring stuff in between).

Reply to  Robert Kernodle
August 31, 2018 4:31 pm

Past Headline Quoting To Prove Present Relevance 201
Woodworking 101

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Robert Kernodle
August 31, 2018 4:47 pm

Thinking Your Van Dyke Beard Makes You Look Kool 101 (no, it’s not a goatee)

Reply to  Robert Kernodle
August 31, 2018 6:39 pm

You forgot Victimology

Gary Ashe
Reply to  Robert Kernodle
September 1, 2018 4:32 am

Mathamagic’s & nature tricks.
Climastrology 2050.

H.R.
Reply to  John Harmsworth
August 31, 2018 7:03 pm

Is Cherry Picking going to be taught by a Professor from the Agricultural College or will Dr. Mann teach that one himself?

Kenji
Reply to  John Harmsworth
August 31, 2018 7:26 pm

Statistical ju-jitsu

MikeH
August 31, 2018 12:21 pm

From the article:
“The program will provide a rich curriculum in climate dynamics and observations, numerical and statistical methods”
The reference to “numerical and statistical methods” leads me to wonder if the students need the prerequisite of “Fudge Factor-101”?

Reply to  MikeH
August 31, 2018 12:32 pm

A guest lecture on statistics from a real environmental economics professor like Ross McKitrick (Univ of Guelph) is probably out of the question for the Mannian Degree program.

Crispin in Waterloo
Reply to  Joel O'Bryan
August 31, 2018 3:14 pm

joelo

You have to understand the difference between “qualification” and “disqualification”.

Reply to  MikeH
September 1, 2018 7:54 am

Here’s a post by Ron Clutz that does an excellent
presentation of the history of the Hockey Stick,
graphs, citations ,the Missing MWE that just won’t
go away. So cool.

https://rclutz.wordpress.com/2018/03/11/rise-and-fall-of-the-modern-warming-spike/

Reply to  MikeH
September 1, 2018 9:28 am

math and stat methods are for torturing the “observations”.

August 31, 2018 12:22 pm

Similar to a Psychiatry degree, providing advice from a book of 300 possible psychiatric conditions with no physical data, tests etc, purely opinion based.

Psychiatrist’s and CAGW scientists have a lot in common,
Regards

BallBounces
August 31, 2018 12:24 pm

All the challenges the western world face are ideological. Climate change is one of them.

August 31, 2018 12:25 pm

“The program will provide a rich curriculum in climate dynamics and observations, numerical and statistical methods,…”

yep, Mann is clearly the guy to teach his apostles all about his self-devised statistics and principle component analyses methods.

astonerii
August 31, 2018 12:25 pm

Before carbon dioxide pollution, the climate never ever changed, just ask the Mayans.

rocketscientist
August 31, 2018 12:26 pm

“The program will provide a rich curriculum in climate dynamics and observations, numerical and statistical methods, the physical climate system, biogeochemistry, and human dimensions of climate change to ensure that all students have a broad and deep understanding of the science and its application to society.”

Only now have they realized they had better start educating these fools? {facepalm}
If only Mann had studied any of this perhaps the narrative would be different.

Reply to  rocketscientist
August 31, 2018 5:06 pm

rocketscientist

Opportunity for making it up as you go along. Suits a Mann degree.

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  rocketscientist
August 31, 2018 9:27 pm

No the outcome would not have been different. Mann et al need the alarmism to keep the funding coming in. Climate science could not have developed any other way. If it had developed quietly with the conclusions that man could not affect the climate and that there was nothing to worry about anyway until 10000 years from now, climate science would have died with all the funding drying up. Why would the world need clmate scientists under the above scenario? Sure, the world needs meteorologists to predict the weather, but that is a different already established discipline. Climate science must be destroyed. It has no use or value. It will be impossible to ever have computer climate models within reasonable error factors to model a chaotic system like the earth’s climate. The IPCC HAS EVEN ADMITTED THAT. In fact with the ozone hole scam and the CAGW global warming lie and the common practice of deception within the science, it is slowly corrupting all other sciences. The world is at a dangerous place when more than 50% of all medical studies are fake according to the editor of Lancet and 97% of all climate studies are bogus because of reliance on junk computer climate models..

Vacaps
August 31, 2018 12:28 pm

Isn’t it tough to study the future without a time machine? Is there a computer course on creating models that give you the results you desire?

Gator
August 31, 2018 12:29 pm

Great! More millennials with worthless degrees, taking up valuable storage space in basements.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  Gator
August 31, 2018 12:43 pm

taking up valuable storage space in basements

Which, the degrees or the students? 🙂

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
August 31, 2018 4:49 pm

“Which, the degrees or the students? 🙂”

Yes.

Bryan A
Reply to  Jeff Alberts
August 31, 2018 10:24 pm

Must be Mom’s basement then

Bryan A
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
September 1, 2018 8:19 am

With a Mannian Degree in Klimate Science and two cents you will be able to put in your two cents worth but then you’ll have nothing left of value

Wflynn
Reply to  Gator
August 31, 2018 1:16 pm

Won’t the basements be flooded due to rising sea levels?

MarkW
Reply to  Wflynn
August 31, 2018 2:49 pm

They might be in risk of flooding due to higher tear levels.

Reply to  MarkW
August 31, 2018 4:35 pm

And melting snowflakes.

August 31, 2018 12:39 pm

Quote: “This new program addresses what is arguably the greatest challenge we face today — the challenge of mitigating and adapting to climate change,” said Mann.

This is the domain of Risk Management, a well established practice in all kinds of fields. There is no need for this, what we have is perfectly well suited for the job.

Reply to  huls
August 31, 2018 9:47 pm

Note that there is no mention of controlling or reversing climate change. Guess they have finally seen the light on that idea.

Mike L.
August 31, 2018 12:39 pm

He certainly is “distinguished”!

H.R.
Reply to  Mike L.
August 31, 2018 7:09 pm

Yes, he is without peer, which raises the question; if he’s peerless, how do his papers get peer reviewed?

One of life’s little mysteries, I guess.

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  H.R.
August 31, 2018 9:30 pm

They are pal reviewed.

Mickey Reno
August 31, 2018 12:40 pm

Great, just what we need, more advanced degree holders that are educated such that they can only qualify for the worst forms of misanthropic, unproductive, wasteful public sector jobs.

Michael S. Kelly, LS BSA, Ret
August 31, 2018 12:45 pm

I love how he likes to have himself introduced as “distinguished professor of atmospheric science,” without, apparently, realizing that “distinguished” is an ambiguous adjective. A “suspicious” man, for example, could either suspect something, or be suspected of something. I always take it as meaning that Mann has distinguished himself from reputable scientists.

Coeur de Lion
August 31, 2018 12:45 pm

Pensionable?

Bruce Cobb
August 31, 2018 12:46 pm

On the bright side, they will have plenty of Klimate Koolade to guzzle, and it will be “on the house”.

Clyde Spencer
August 31, 2018 12:46 pm

Will they be able to get the program accredited from an unbiased accreditation organization? Does such an accreditation organization exist? It would seem to me that there would need to be closure on the questions that we skeptics routinely ask. That might require, God forbid, panel discussions on the contentious issues and objective judges to rule on the arguments. Maybe even a Red Term/Blue Team exercise to resolve controversy! Personally, I think that it would be easier, and less trouble, to just define a curriculum of required courses in existing departments, without the taint of AGW bias. That is, take statistics courses from the statistics or mathematics departments, and not from Mann or his new program. And, take “biogeochemistry” courses from the chemistry department or geology department and discover that the term “ocean acidification” can’t be found in the textbooks.

Alan Tomalty
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
August 31, 2018 9:40 pm

You don’t realize what a threat climate science is to universities all over the world. Things have moved way beyond your musings. There is no one to stand up and say no to this mann and others like him. They are threatening to subjugate all other related disciplines under the guise that climate science is too important NOT to take a leading place in all the physical sciences. They already control atmospheric science and to a large extent meteorology through their control of the World Meteorological Organization. Control of all the other physical sciences is easily done because they control the National Academy of Sciences plus nearly every other multi disciplinary body of science.

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