Brief by Kip Hansen
American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) has apologized for emailing out a fund-raising promotion that was misleading and apparently politically motivated — that is, they have apologized to me, personally, when I contacted them with an email questioning the content of the email. In case you have forgotten, the AAAS is the publisher [ed] of the journal Science, widely considered to be one of the world’s top academic journals.
The membership-drive email contained an image similar to the one at the beginning of this article — “Tomorrow’s Science Needs You Today. Now more than ever, science needs supporters like you”. The email version I received was this:

The text of the message read:
You’ve read the headlines. You know scientific institutions are being stifled. Scientists and engineers are regarded with suspicion in the very institutions that should be a safe haven for them.
So our work is cut out for us in 2018. But the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) is fighting back. Become a member to help us:
Defend evidence-based policies, Advocate for government funding in research, Educate policymakers, Champion the public benefits of science, and more!
“Good heaven’s!” I thought, “Science is being undermined…scientific institutions are being stifled. Not only that, but scientists and engineers are regarded with suspicion in the very institutions that should be a safe haven for them.” “That’s serious!” I concluded, “Why don’t I know about this?”
Readers here know that I write about science news and can correctly assume that I follow current events concerning science, and general science news, pretty closely. How did this situation develop and escape my attention?
I wrote to the AAAS, using their “Media Inquiry” button on their website:
I am a science essayist — and I am puzzled over an email I received from the AAAS — apparently fund-raising — with this text:
“You’ve read the headlines. You know scientific institutions are being stifled. Scientists and engineers are regarded with suspicion in the very institutions that should be a safe haven for them.”
Science is my field — I follow science news carefully daily — it is my bread and butter — and I haven’t the slightest idea what the AAAS is going on about.
Can you have someone contact me either by telephone or email to give me details of “scientific institutions … being stifled” and how individuals donating to AAAS would remedy it?
Much to my surprise, I received an almost immediate reply from the AAAS’ Chief Information & Engagement Officer – Director of Membership. Adding to my surprise, the reply was this:
Thank you for contacting AAAS. I appreciate that brought to our attention the distracting and fiery sentences in the email you received from AAAS. I believe the copywriters of this email were trying somehow to generalize this event: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/22/climate/epa-scientists.html?src=twr&_r=0.
Unfortunately, we missed the mark badly. The AAAS Marketing team failed at many levels here and for that I take full responsibility. I have taken steps to stop future sends of this email as well instituting stronger review processes in our development of marketing material.
I do hope you see this [as] an isolated failure by a few people within AAAS and not indicative of AAAS as a whole.
Thank you again for bringing this to our attention, [signature]
I found this reply very encouraging — at least when asked by the media [and WUWT is a media outlet, being among the world’s most viewed science, climate, and weather websites], one person at the AAAS realized that they were doing “alarm bells promotion” — ringing the alarm calling for public help to fight some public menace. Unfortunately, the “public menace” in this case is imaginary, existing only in the minds of those, like this journalist at the NY Times, can see only through the tainted lens of US two-party politics and whose every printed word is biased by their party-affiliation and cultural leaning — writing Party Talking Points as if they were somehow connected to reality.
In this case, the “AAAS Marketing team copywriters” — apparently in agreement with the bias of the NY Times’ Lisa Friedman — took their “story”, according to the AAAS’ Information Officer, from this NY Times article: E.P.A. Cancels Talk on Climate Change by Agency Scientists. The story is that just prior to the State of the Narragansett Bay and Watershed conference in Oct 2017, the EPA cancelled the appearance of three EPA associated speakers who were to address the meeting on the subject of Climate Change. The conference was designed to draw attention to the health of Narragansett Bay, the largest estuary in New England and a key to the region’s tourism and fishing industries. The article in the Times reports that the US EPA partially funds the Narragansett Bay Estuary Program and that the three scientists did not speak at the event which was held to release a 400-page report on the state of the Narragansett Bay, to which they had contributed substantial material.
Autumn Oczkowski, a research ecologist at the E.P.A.’s National Health and Environmental Effects Research Laboratory Atlantic Ecology Division in Rhode Island, was scheduled to give the keynote address. [according to the Times, her speech intended to address climate change and other factors affecting the health of the estuary] Rose Martin, a postdoctoral fellow at the same E.P.A. laboratory [Rose Marin studies march marsh grasses] and Emily Shumchenia, an E.P.A. consultant, were scheduled to speak on an afternoon panel entitled “The Present and Future Biological Implications of Climate Change.”
The Times further reports “Rhode Island’s entire congressional delegation, all Democrats, will attend a morning news conference. Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, an outspoken critic of Mr. Pruitt [current Director of the EPA], will be among the speakers.”
I suggest reading the NY Times’ article — it is an interesting example of Editorial Narrative being translated into a news item. Lisa Friedman is a reporter on the Times’ climate beat — she reports to the Science Editor, who sets, in conjunction with the paper’s senior editors and owners, the Editorial Narratives on science topics including climate. In this piece she manages to get in several of the Times’ overall Narratives — anti-Trumpism, “Republicans are anti-science”, “Scientists are being censored [by Republicans or Conservatives or ‘people we don’t like’], “The EPA is being dismantled”, and several other misrepresentations of reality. Regardless of one’s position on any of the details, the political-party bias could not be more blatant — and the odd anti-Anti-Science spin makes my head spin!
There are several important issues here:
1: The contributions of the EPA staffers (one is actually a propaganda science-communications consultant), include such [utterly nonsensical] wisdom as this from the executive summary of the report:
“Sea level in Rhode Island rose nine inches as measured at the tide gauge in Newport from 1930 to 2015 and 6.6 inches at Providence from 1938 to 2015. NOAA projects that sea level at Newport could rise as much as 3.4 feet by 2050 and eleven feet by 2100, considering factors such as rapid melting of land-based polar ice.”
Reality Intervenes — At tide station 8452660 Newport, Rhode Island, according to NOAA Tides and Currents, “The mean sea level trend is 2.73 millimeters/year with a 95% confidence interval of +/- 0.16 mm/yr based on monthly mean sea level data from 1930 to 2016 which is equivalent to a change of 0.90 feet in 100 years.”
[NB: Newport, RI station does not have a same-structure co-located CORS station — so this data may or may not be accurate, even locally. There is a CORS station mounted on a hill at the Naval Station — which has a vertical velocity of (downwards) of 1.3 mm/yr to 2.2 mm/yr — depending on the reference epoch used. ]
2: The United States Environmental Protection Agency does not have a mission to track, measure, or make regulations or policy regarding Climate Change. It is not their remit [definition: “the task or area of activity officially assigned to an individual or organization.”]. The EPA’s core mission (2018 draft document) is:
EPA’s Mission: To Protect Human Health and the Environment
Goal 1 – Core Mission: Deliver real results to provide Americans with clean air, land, and water.
Goal 2 – Cooperative Federalism: Rebalance the power between Washington and the states to create tangible environmental results for the American people.
Goal 3 – Rule of Law and Process: Administer the law, as Congress intended, to refocus the Agency on its statutory obligations under the law.
There is no mention of Climate Change in their mission statement; as a result, the current EPA website page (still the same since January 2017) for Climate Change is this:

3: Lisa Friedman, at the NY Times, fails to mention that EPA staff and contractors are not being paid to junket and deliver political speeches about Climate Change. The EPA staffers could/should have been there to talk about water pollution and how the EPA is going to improve the situation but have no business whatever talking about Climate Change — particularly events that are primarily political events featuring prominent Democrats and anti-Administration figures.
There seems to be some rather strange idea floating around that public employees, such as those of the governments various alphabet agencies (NOAA, NASA, EPA, FDA, CDC…..), ought to be allowed to travel about on the public’s dime and on public time, delivering speeches and presentations composed of their personal opinions on topics that may or may not be part of their professional work at these agencies. This idea is categorically incorrect. The topic is covered generally at the U.S. Office of Government Ethics website. Public employees are allowed to speak as individuals and may express their opinions freely — however, they may not appear in any official capacity as E.P.A. employees (administrative, regulatory, enforcement or scientific) on government time and make presentations without prior approval from the agency. Such appearances are work assignments — not personal choices. The same rules apply in most corporations.
Pulling the speakers from the State of the Bay conference (news conference) at the last minute was probably rude — ill-mannered even. But the actions of employees and how they spend their work time is under the direction of their employer — in this case the EPA — which had been in a year-long re-focusing phase attempting to meet the third of three mission goals: Mission: Goal 3 – Rule of Law and Process: Administer the law, as Congress intended, to refocus the Agency on its statutory obligations under the law.
Governmental executive-branch agencies have been widely accused in the last decade of over-reaching their original purposes, operating out-of-bounds, wandering off-mission, grabbing power without legal basis and over-regulating the country. The E.P.A. most of all.
A new administration has been in power for the last year — one with very different ideas about how government should be conducted and what the proper roles of executive branch agencies should be. It is a positive step that the EPA has begun to rein in the advocacy actions of its employees and re-direct them to the areas of responsibility laid out for them in acts of Congress and other federal law.
I support the AAAS in its attempt to attract bright young minds to the study and practice of Science — and to help bring the benefits Science has brought us to the attention of the general public. I applaud their Chief Information Officer for pulling back the politically-motivated and inflammatory membership ad — and for his sincere apology.
I would like to see the AAAS more involved in the area of correcting science communications — fact-checking public announcements that misrepresent new “breakthroughs” in science and medicine; calling out scientists that distort their scientific fields in the name of advocacy; setting up a strict Code of Ethics for scientists speaking to the press and public so that personal opinions are clearly noted and differentiated from scientific fact; rein in some of the outrageous grandstanding that substitutes for science communications; support the likes of Mike Rowe, Judith Curry, Susan Crockford, Roger Pielke Jr. and others who have been attacked for communicating science accurately. . . . . . There is more to be added to this list.
I’d like to hear from scientists of all types on this topic in the comments. How could the AAAS actually help save Science from its run-way practitioners, such as those who told the State of the Narragansett Bay program that “NOAA projects that sea level at Newport could rise as much as 3.4 feet by 2050 and eleven feet by 2100, considering factors such as rapid melting of land-based polar ice.”
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Glad to answer your questions, provide extra links and defend my own opinions. Always interested in reading what you have to say.
I try to answer all comments addressed specifically to me — by beginning them with: “Kip…”
I will not engage in any sort of two-party political squabbles in comments — in my opinion, the US system of two-party politics is what is wrong with this country. (Actually, I won’t discuss this opinion here either, sorry.)
Let’s hear what everyone has to say about how the AAAS could save science from itself.
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The one positive that has come from the whole climate change/EPA fiasco is the development of the widespread cynicism towards “science”and “scientists” among both other scientists and society at large.
For too long our society had assumed that because someone in a white coat said something, it must be true. Much public policy, and the disposition of trillions of dollars, has been predicated on this.
We are all now aware of the extent of political activism, and outright fraud, that pervades all of science; not just “climate science”.
The recognition of this now, I hope, causes everybody to be more critical of the pronouncements of “science” and tempers policy decisions. This can only be for the good.
I’m not sure that “cynicism toward science” is as widespread as you think. It’s certainly widespread among the denizens of this blog, but attitudes toward science travel in lockstep with our polarized politics. I don’t think liberal dems and enviros regard the “EPA fiasco” with cynicism.
scraft1—
Very valid question. The answer is quantitative with a lot of variation across all areas of society. I experienced the evolution of the current situation while only marginally connected with climate science, more so with the EPA. My exposure was both in academia and industry without understanding it very well until early in this century. This came first maybe when someone, in Canada as I recall, wrote me about the impending loss of credibility of the AAAS publication, Science, now accomplished.
This view is reinforced by continual exposures (one just happened this morning in another related subject of health care) such as an example not long ago when the conversation developed where no one knew anything about the views or background of the others. Someone working in a critical industry was concerned about a younger graduate relative from my alma mater (from where I have a graduate school minor in Oceanography) that did not seem properly educated. Finally I explained that I had been part of the problem group and gave some explanations. I also said that I was optimistic, maybe just a bias from my upbringing as from the real crises of the depression and WWII.
There are plenty of good educators and scientists left, too busy to deal with politics.
Kip
I know this is off topic and I do not expect any response, but here is some food for thought.
Some have suggested that a cure for the current 2 party system is to have a 3 (or multiple) major party system. In my opinion, a 2 party system is the ideal.
Obviously a one party system, such as in Cuba, Russia, and recently in Turkey and Venezuela, properly called a dictatorship, is the worst possible political system.
We tried the 3 party system in the US in 1992 with Ross Perot, who bled off 19% of the popular vote and we know how that turned out. Clinton won the election with 43% of the popular vote, although it has been argued that Bush probably would still have lost if Perot never existed.
A good example of what can go wrong in a 3 party system would be Australia which has a parliamentarian system. If either of the 2 major parties in Australia, the conservatives (Liberals) which will be referred to as The Right and the liberals (Labor) referred to as The Left, do not win a majority of the seats in an election, then in order to form a new government one of the parties must form an alliance with a minority party. In the case of the Labor party, they will always align themselves with the Greens (environmental wackos) referred to as The Far Left. The result of this marriage is that the Far Left drags the Left even further to the Left than it already was because they need the Far Left votes to pass legislation. There is a similar situation with the Right. So, no matter how the people voted, they will get something more extreme than they expected if neither major party wins a majority of the seats.
This is why the 2 party system we have, no more and no less, is as good as it gets for the USA.
Dennis Kuzara ==> Any reasonable analysis of the last presidential election shows that Donald Trump ran as a sort-of third party candidate — apparently accepted by the Republicans by default — for fear of repeating the Perot scenario.
For years, the Republican party played a little game.
They would field a candidate who was just slightly more conservative than the Democrat candidate. The theory being that everyone to the right of their candidate, had no choice but to vote for them, while those in between the two candidates were up for grabs.
As a result, as the Democrats drifted further and further left, so did the Republicans.
The only way to prevent this from running to it’s inevitable conclusion is for there to be the possibility of a third party picking up those who have been disaffected by the leftward drift of the two main parties.
Well Kip, the person who responded to you may have apologized, but right up until today, I continue(d) to get alarmist, false-narrative messages here on Face Book. I often take the time to point out inaccuracies and exaggerations they post about, and how AAAS is not a “SCIENCE” organization, but a political advocacy group one with a decidedly leftist outlook. I must admit getting a devilish delight in reading the misguided and un-scientific responses to my criticisms.
Awesome breakdown Kip. Thanks for that. These people are delusional, self-entitled fanatics. Throw the bums out.
How about if you merely go to international climate summits and commit to domestic policies set up with foreign powers, while using the pseudonym Richard Windsor to communicate by email?
An urgent, practical act by the AAAS would be the authorship and enforcement of ?mandatory guidelines for the proper calculation of accuracy and precision in the scientific measurement process. Geoff.
AAAS is too corrupt to be saved. Just form a new organization with founding members Fred Singer, Judith Curry, Richard Lindzen, Anthony Watts, Roy Spencer, etc. Honest members of AAAS should resign and join the new organization. Plus the 30,000 signers of the Oregon Petition, readers of WUWT and attendees of the International Climate Conferences. It will be the Red Team to challenge science organizations that promote CAGW and pseudoscience
The new organization will have six groups with my nominated heads:
1. Meteorology & Oceanography – Richard Lindzen
2. Physics & Chemistry – William Happer
3. Biology & Ecology – Sherwood Idso
4. Geology – Ian Clark
5. Statistics & Math – William Briggs
6. Astronomy – Sallie Baliunas
Kip,
Coastline development in RI has been going on for nearly 400 years and much of it is vulnerable to inundation. Flooding of Providence from the 1954 hurricane and destruction of much shoreline property from the 1938 hurricane are still very much alive in local lore and memory. Even the fairly benign 9 inch sea level rise in the last century has contributed to the loss of tidal marshes because of limited migration of the upland edge while the waterline edge has eroded. So it’s understandable that there would be concern about future sea level rise. However, the people responsible for addressing the situation have bought into the totally unrealistic projection of a 9 foot rise by 2100. When I challenged one top official about this, he backed off a bit, but still the fear of flooding is a powerful tool for influencing public opinion. It’s easier to swallow a possibility 9 feet in 85 years than it is to realize that this means and inch and a quarter rise per year. People don’t do mental math very well.
Gary ==> The Narragansett Bay is geographically set-up to be a storm surge nightmare when the winds blow continuously from the right [well, wrong] direction — forcing and keeping water up-bay. Much of the surrounding land is protected by bluffs — but often the towns, being seafront towns occupied for the purpose of fishing and shipping — at at near-sea-level, which is the norm.
I discuss the dangers for low-laying areas in Sea Level: Rise and Fall – Part 1.
Newport, RI has a lot of land just a few feet above current sea level — and some of it probably floods every King Tide.
“Projections” of multiple feet of sea level rise this century are non-scientific alarmist claptrap.
Kip==>Good point worth reemphasizing. Copano Bay flooding in Harvey was the result of the circulation, counter(anti)-clockwise induced surge with nowhere to go. The same thing is true of Lake Pontchartrain and to a diminishing extent the whole Mississippi River Delta. Moving it south of the equator might help. A storm eye, as has occurred, going through the center of New Orleans also has westerly hurricane force winds piling up water. Obvious, but even some who should know better don’t seem to understand.
http://www.theplacewithnoname.com/blogs/klessons/images/1116_004.jpg
The measure of a man, or an organization, is not found when they are right, but when they are found to have been wrong and what they do then to correct the error.
From the article: “In this case, the “AAAS Marketing team copywriters” — apparently in agreement with the bias of the NY Times’ Lisa Friedman — took their “story”, according to the AAAS’ Information Officer, from this NY Times article: E.P.A. Cancels Talk on Climate Change by Agency Scientists. The story is that just prior to the State of the Narragansett Bay and Watershed conference in Oct 2017, the EPA cancelled the appearance of three EPA associated speakers who were to address the meeting on the subject of Climate Change.”
Isn’t this the case where the three EPA officials were prevented from attending in their official capacity, but were allowed to attend as private citizens?
In other words, they were not prevented from going to the meeting by the Trump administration, they just could not represent the EPA while doing so.
TA ==> No one told them anything about attending or not — just that they would not be speaking at the event as representatives of the EPA.
I do not know if they subsequently attended or if they attended and spoke anyway –if you are a clever ‘Net searcher, see if you can find out and let us know.
They were told they could attend according to this link:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/23/report-epa-prevents-agency-scientists-from-speaking-at-climate-conference/
“The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) canceled speaking appearances of three agency scientists who were scheduled to discuss aspects of global warming at a Rhode Island press conference, according to a Monday report from The New York Times.
The three scientists can attend but not speak at the State of the Narragansett Bay and Watershed program in Rhode Island, EPA spokesman John Konkus confirmed to reporters. He did not elaborate on why they were prevented from speaking about contributions they made in a report on climate change.”
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The three EPA people did not speak at the Oct. 23, conference, but did speak at one scheduled for Nov. 5,:
https://www.ecori.org/climate-change/2017/11/1/gagged-scientists-scheduled-to-speak-in-providence
Gagged EPA Scientists Scheduled to Speak in Providence
November 01, 2017
Former agency employee calls White House crackdown on climate science “absolutely appalling”
By TIM FAULKNER/ecoRI News staff
PROVIDENCE — The two Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) scientists and one contractor recently prevented from presenting their research on the health of Narragansett Bay will be speaking at an upcoming science conference at the Rhode Island Convention Center.
Autumn Oczkowski, who was the scheduled keynote speaker at the Oct. 23 event at Save The Bay, is the co-chair of the Coastal & Estuarine Research Federation Conference scheduled for Nov. 5-9. Rose Martin, a postdoctoral fellow, and Emily Shumchenia, an EPA consultant, are also presenting.
The three coastal experts work at the EPA Atlantic Ecology Division in Narragansett, where the effects of climate change are a major area of study. It’s also a topic top EPA officials in Washington, D.C., are discrediting and suppressing, as revealed in numerous media reports. Most recently, the EPA is replacing scientists on its most influential advisory boards with researchers from the businesses they regulate.
The EPA told ecoRI News that Oczkowski, Martin, Shumchenia, and other EPA researchers scheduled to speak at the conference would be allowed to attend and discuss their research. Climate change is a major theme during the five-day conference. Lectures and meetings will address sea-level rise, ocean acidification, stormwater runoff, and the long-term threat of climate change on coastal habitats such as Narragansett Bay and Chesapeake Bay.
The EPA didn’t link the recent silencing of its scientists to their research on climate change. In an e-mail, an EPA spokesman wrote that the three scientists were excluded from the Oct. 23 workshop because “it is not an EPA conference.”
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And this link says EPA officials are attending the conference:
https://outlook.monmouth.edu/index.php/politics/125-volume-90-fall-2017-spring-2018/5094-environmental-protection-agency-pulls-scientists-from-conference
Environmental Protection Agency Pulls Scientists from Conference
“The three scientists – Autumn Oczkowski, Rose Martin, and Emily Shumchenia – contributed significantly to the 500-page report being presented at the State of the Narragansett Bay and Watershed program, located in Providence. The conference is centered on analyzing the health of Narragansett Bay, in which one of the cut speakers was to give the keynote address.
The report details the effect of climate change on the bay, including warming temperatures of the air and water, changes in precipitation, and rising sea levels, according to Slate. The removed speakers intended on focusing on these climate changes issues. However, the replaced address is listed as “Narragansett Bay as a Sentinel Estuary.”
EPA spokesperson gave CNN a statement on the decision:
“EPA supports the Narragansett Bay Estuary, and just this month provided the program a $600,000 grant. EPA scientists are attending, they simply are not presenting; it is not an EPA conference” John Konkus, a former Trump campaign operative in Florida, confirmed.”
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And I finally found a link that says they did attend the Oct.23, conference:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/23/politics/epa-rhode-island/index.html
EPA pulls scientists out of climate change conference talk
“Tom Borden, the program director for the Narragansett Bay Estuary Program, which hosted the workshop, told CNN that “EPA folks” were present at the conference Monday but didn’t speak during the program. He added that “only the EPA knows why” the scientists were not permitted to speak at the conference. ”
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Hope that helps. 🙂
Well, WordPress or something ate my first, elaborate post and made it disappear, so I will shorten it to the basics and see if this one works.
And I finally found a link that says they did attend the Oct.23, conference:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/23/politics/epa-rhode-island/index.html
EPA pulls scientists out of climate change conference talk
“Tom Borden, the program director for the Narragansett Bay Estuary Program, which hosted the workshop, told CNN that “EPA folks” were present at the conference Monday but didn’t speak during the program. He added that “only the EPA knows why” the scientists were not permitted to speak at the conference. ”
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Hope that helps. 🙂
TA ==> Thank you, fine work. Much appreciated.
Kip,
I gave up on AAAS being objective on climate and more recently the Trump Administration. AAAS clearly decided to join the so-called “resistance.”
My membership and Science subscription comes due this year. I will not be renewing either. AAAS senior leadership has gone All-in on the climate hustle.
Joel O’Bryan, PhD
Joel ==> There has been a tremendous pressure on scientific organizations to declare their allegiance to CAGW Articles of Faith — and the AAAS leadership has certainly sign-up and taken the pledge.
Someday, they will recant and have to elect new leadership that was not taken in and did not bow to the pressure, selling out their own better judgement.
Kip, the pressure on the leadership of the scientific organizations comes from the scientists that make up the organization. The leadership only reflects what the members hold as self evident truth. Now, if you think the “pressure” comes from some other source, please tell us about it, and provide your evidence.
Tom ==> NONE of the “official position statements on climate change” of the major scientific organizations — that I know of (and most have been featured here at WUWT as they have been issued) — have been written, proposed, or voted on by the membership of those organizations. They have been promulgated by leadership through committee. Only the APS, to my knowledge, even tried to have a process involving members — Judith Curry covered their effort..
Kip
Have you read AAAS statement on climate change?
“The overwhelming evidence of human-caused climate change documents both current impacts with significant costs and extraordinary future risks to society and natural systems. The scientific community has convened conferences, published reports, spoken out at forums and proclaimed… including the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) — that climate change puts the well-being of people of all nations at risk.”
“Climate scientists agree: climate change is happening here and now. Based on well-established evidence, about 97% of climate scientists have concluded that human-caused climate change is happening”
“We are at risk of pushing our climate system toward abrupt, unpredictable, and potentially irreversible changes with highly damaging impacts. Earth’s climate is on a path to warm beyond the range of what has been experienced over the past millions of years”
“The sooner we act, the lower the risk and cost. And there is much we can do.Waiting to take action will inevitably increase costs, escalate risk, and foreclose options to address the risk.”
http://whatweknow.aaas.org/get-the-facts/
AAAS should change its name to American Association for the Abolition of Science
How can a bunch of AAAS scientists get it so wrong?
Ever consider the possibility that you are wrong, and all the scientists are right?
Oh, I forgot to mention that they outnumber the AGW-rejectionists.
I have considered that and have rejected it. It’s not hard to tell when somebody can’t back up their claims, and the CAGW promoters can’t back up their claims, so if it’s so easy for me to see, why is it so hard for the AAAS scientists to see?
You could prove me wrong by providing just one piece of evidence that CAGW is real, but of course, we both know you can’t do that. Nor can anyone else.
Every time we ask for proof we get silence. That should tell a reasonably intelligent person something.
“How can a bunch of AAAS scientists get it so wrong?”
Quality vs. quantity. Botanist, physicist, geologist, meteorologist, a modern-day polymath. One Sherwood Idso is enough to debunk a bunch of fools.
TA ==> Those here writing comments about “Official Statements on Climate Change” from scientific organizations just haven’t been paying attention for the last ten years or so. Social/political pressure on the leadership of these groups have been tremendous and [apparently] irresistible. Nearly every group has caved to the pressure, and their “statements” are in many cases just “rubber stamps” of one another.
“Oh, I forgot to mention that they outnumber the AGW-rejectionists”
Hehehe!
You’re funny!
Good stuff Kip Hansen!
Here’s another attempt to help a scientifically challenged NYT writer:
Subject: Danish wind; not without woes.
From the desk of Harvey H. Homitz.
November 11th. 2014
Justin Gillis Esq.
c/o. The Editor:
New York Times, 620 8th. Ave.,
New York , NY10018
Re: Science Times, “By Degrees” Tuesday, November 11th. 2014
Dear Mr. Gillis,
Congratulations! You are definitely the lead trumpeter for the NYT Green Warming Marching Band if you dig my tune. Nothing wrong with blowing a good trumpet even if it is for the NYT! But be careful. Remember when Joshua blew his at Jericho….the walls came tumbling down.
We don’t want that happening in New York! Right?
Let’s not mince words! I’ve been following your ‘BY DEGREES’ piece on Global Warming, or what they now call Climate Change, for a while. That terminological reconfiguration was a smart move, nothing wrong with that! Better be safe than sorry I always say, especially for you journalists when you get into the prognostication business.
So! We’ve got the outcome thing covered no matter which way the thermometer goes, but all this headlong charge into Wind and Solar has been bothering me for a while and I’m relieved that finally you got it .. Justin Time eh! Oops ! I forgot; Justin Gillis.
Well done! You hit the Danes on the Jutland with that one! What are those 5.6 million Danes going to do when the wind stops blowing and the Norwegians won’t give back the electricity they owe from pumping up their hydro electric dams on windy days? More to the point what are they going to do when 45 million Brits., who shut down their Nukes and dirty old coal plants, are begging for a few terra-watts to save them from freezing in the dark? Eh?
Well I don’t mind sharing this one with you; the Brits will do OK without Danish Wind; they’ve got Lord Browne Fracker! You know, the chap who changed British Petroleum to Beyond Petroleum, quit BP, jumped out the closet and started fracking all over North England.
Now you seem to be a bright sort of fellow, very literate if not so numerate. After all, apart from a few recent exceptions, there’s not many Dodos on the NYT payroll, so you may have guessed by now that I’m packed in the sardine section of an Airbus, at Mach .75, 35k ft. and reading your piece in the Times. Incidentally, when you say “BY DEGREES”, are we talking Fahrenheit, Unknown, Celsius or Kelvin? Perhaps you should put that little circle followed by F, U, C or K, after ‘degrees’ in case there are any real scientists in your readership trying to understand exactly what the f*** you’re on about.
Now articles like yours tend to make one think. So it occurred to me as I sipped an inferior wine while nibbling fruits and nuts, (appropriately since I was departing California which harbours large numbers of both), how lucky I was to be propelled by kerosene and not Danish wind. Further, with the aid of a slide-rule, (which need not be switched off in flight), I calculated that it would require 70,000 horses or 350,000 galley slaves, at max exertion to get this Airbus off the ground. WOW! Suddenly the sardine section seemed less crowded!
Well, not to worry, you’re on the right track now, and being an expert myself in these matters, I don’t mind helping you avoid the obvious pitfalls while sweeping on with the Grand Fallacy!
As I see it our biggest problem post election is how to get this Republican Congress to repeal the Laws of Thermodynamics and replace them with kinder ‘fairer’ Democratic ones. But not to worry! With my brains and your dexterity with the pen…mightier than the sword they say!….we’ll manage.
Let me know when we can start, as luck would have it I’m available,
Yours from the irredeemable far right,
Harvey H. Homitz
Ambassador at large for SPIGGOTS*
and
Purveyor of Sensible Science to the Innumerate.
* Society for the Prevention of Incestuous Government Grants on Tortured Science.
Kip, kudos to you for taking the time to reasonably question sources of disinformation. I hope the response from AAAS was sincere.
My experience with the National Park Service was not encouraging. In April of 2015 I wrote to the NPS policy office regarding this web page:
http://www.nps.gov/articles/climatequestion02.htm
I requested a source for the claims that (1) a survey “conducted by the IPCC” reveals that 97% of climatologists think that human activity is the primary cause of presently-occurring global climate change and that (2) “a separate study by the National Academy of the Sciences drew the same conclusions.”
My inquiry was forwarded to the NPS “Climate Change Response Program,” whence came these citations:
• Anderegg, W.R.L., J.W. Prall, J. Harold, and S.H. Schneider. 2010. Expert credibility in climate change. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the USA 107: 12 107-12 109.
• Cook, J., D. Nuccitelli, S.A. Green, M. Richardson, B. Winkler, R. Painting, R. Way, P. Jacobs, and A. Skuce. 2013. Quantifying the consensus on anthropogenic global warming in the scientific literature. Environmental Research Letters 8: 024024. doi:10.1088/1748-9326/8/2/024024.
• Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). 2007. Climate Change 2007: The Physical Science Basis. Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, UK.
• Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). 2013. Climate Change 2013: The Physical Science Basis. Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, UK.
I provided references that debunk the Anderegg and Cook conclusions and noted that Anderegg’s publication in PNAS does not make it a “study by the National Academy of the Sciences.” There was clearly no survey “conducted by the IPCC.”
The inaccurate page was never updated, and if you do a keyword search today on “climate change” within the NPS you get hundreds of links, some of which refer to instructions on how NPS employees should “educate” the public on the serious environmental threats posed by human-caused climate change that is already occurring (in particular, investigate:
https://www.nps.gov/subjects/climatechange/toolkit.htm, which includes a link to the EPA )
Alas, despite Ryan Zinke’s appointment, it appears the “Climate Change Response Program” still reigns within the NPS, and that federal proselytizing for Climatastrophism continues unabated.
verdeviewer ==> I’m sure the scrubbing anf re-focusing effort will eventually get to the National Park Service propaganda pages and programs.
Kip, I believe there are still a couple of typos in your article:
“…the AAAS is the
publishedpublisher of the journal…”“…the slightest idea
thatwhat the AAAS is going on about.”vv ==> Good eyes, mate.
Kip, just a quick nod of agreement; two-party system is a tragic flaw. Washington himself fought that last battle.
“Kip, just a quick nod of agreement; two-party system is a tragic flaw. Washington himself fought that last battle.”
To understand the problem with systems such as PR, go and take a look at Angela Merkel’s problems in Germany, and what has happened as a result in Austria a few weeks ago, which is OK if you happen to approve of the rise of the Right, of course.